Fun fact : The thunder is actually better at range than the havoc even though it has a wide reticle versus havoc which has a very tight reticle . The thunder does 70-85 damage consistently 2 tiles away while the havoc only does near 50 even when fully adsed in . You can test it in creative
that's what the description for those shotguns says. Thunder still hits hard farther away, with the downside of only having 4 shots that each take two ammo. The havoc holds more, and hits like a truck, even able to one-shot headshot people, but in turn, has a tight reticle while being iffy at range
They are different styles of shotgun. The thunder does more damage at range, it's versatile, but the havoc pump is the PUMP pump, it hits harder in the 0-10m range, but 10-30m the thunder will be better.
Thunder shotgun is one of my favorite shotguns just from the fact that it feels different… and it feels good to use… I was used to the point that you couldn’t really get one pumped and so thunder was my way to go. I also really enjoy the mythic shotgun because of again the one pump factor… funny enough though I don’t really like the original pump… it feels like it shoots way too slow and does like 23 damage for a point blank body shot
the havoc does way less damage to the body most of the times than the thunder and has shit accuracy, thunder still the goat. so ig im gonna main the maven now lol
@@user-ku3sr7cl3u everyone's jumping on the hype train of the havoc being the goat just because it has the word 'pump' in it. in reality, it's shit and is nowhere near the og pump.
Guys, I'm not the first to say this and will not be the last. It does not matter wich weapon is better. It matters who is using it. Even the RECYCLER COULD BE AN AMAZING WEAPON IF BRANDED BY A PRO! SAME THING WITH EVERY GUN!
Although that sesason was only like 9 month ago I'm starting to miss it. Better fps, more fun weapons and actually better looking game I think. Also the hammer and this anvil city were crazy cool!
mythical pump is better than thunder is obviously you play with people who are bots and obviously you make thunder look better than mythical pump but the myhical pump is better than thunder because pump have more damage and more bullets
thunder has better aim, but doesnt do much damage, havoc has decent aim, but does so much more damage.(Im good with the havoc, so it must just be a skill issue for the people who died)
I loved the thunder, best shotgun and I feel, if they were unvaulted, would pare up well with the pump, and even more so with the charge and maaayyybeeee the tac, the thunder feels so so nice to use
when the season first came out like the minute it came out I'm pretty sure I found the thunder first as I was doing a season quest and this npc called thunder dropped it when i killed it
I loved the thunder, best shotgun and I feel, if they were unvaulted, would pare up well with the pump, and even more so with the charge and maaayyybeeee the tac, the thunder feels so so nice to use
How did the people with mythic havocs die the mythic havoc pump literally does 200 to the head but in zero build it does 250 so it's designed to one shot
idk i feel like the havoc is extremely slow and very inaccurate. it might just be my aim, but whenever i use a thunder, pump, prime or any other decent shotgun my aim feels a lot better
Fun fact : The thunder is actually better at range than the havoc even though it has a wide reticle versus havoc which has a very tight reticle . The thunder does 70-85 damage consistently 2 tiles away while the havoc only does near 50 even when fully adsed in . You can test it in creative
that's what the description for those shotguns says. Thunder still hits hard farther away, with the downside of only having 4 shots that each take two ammo. The havoc holds more, and hits like a truck, even able to one-shot headshot people, but in turn, has a tight reticle while being iffy at range
I will always choose the gun that can 200 pump. No matter what it is.
And the OG pump is a combination of the two. Hope they bring it back
@@joseiylemonsay506even if it only does 40-60 damage on average with the very very rare chance of hitting that 200?
Damage falloff is much worse on the havoc
Well the thunder actually hits its shots instead of whiffing even when you’re on target.
No it doesn’t
@@Itouchedgr thunder is way more accurate
@@Gio-kg4gb idk I was always missing with the thunder and so far I have only been hitting with the havoc.
@@Itouchedgr maybe you just got really good
@@Gio-kg4gb after a week of not playing? Yeah right.
i guess because, atm, players cant get the thunder as loot, the game doesn't refer to it as a weapon, meaning you cant upgrade it
You can get the thunder in frenzy farm
@@danielcure-xf9uk he didnt say you couldnt
I miss Chapter 4
Day 3 of asking Ben to do a locker tour
I’ve seen his locker on stream bro, trust me it’s not to crazy
@@Max_PHTGHY oof I thought he would have wenegade waider 😢
Lol
Been here since day 3
@@CaptPuppyGamerwenegade waidoh
*the thunder shotgun is superior.* *how u have a mythic havoc and die to a gray thunder shotgun-*
why did you change your pfp after 2 hours haha
@@Gio-kg4gb cuz I can
burgonham
*thunder shotgun dealing 20 - 50 damage, while also consuming twice the ammo*
in this video, it was more of a skill issue, where the people couldn't hit their shots.
this guy proves you can win with any kind of weapons
Bro look at the players hes going up against
Zero build
The Havoc Pump is better than the Thunder, but your just better than all the players in the lobby
^^ this is correct
They are different styles of shotgun. The thunder does more damage at range, it's versatile, but the havoc pump is the PUMP pump, it hits harder in the 0-10m range, but 10-30m the thunder will be better.
why the tactical pistol is somehow better than the havoc just annoys me so much
Because range?
Tactical pistols hurt so bad. Even just a blue one
Thunder shotgun is one of my favorite shotguns just from the fact that it feels different… and it feels good to use… I was used to the point that you couldn’t really get one pumped and so thunder was my way to go. I also really enjoy the mythic shotgun because of again the one pump factor… funny enough though I don’t really like the original pump… it feels like it shoots way too slow and does like 23 damage for a point blank body shot
nah fax i love the thunder shotgun wish they would bring it back
fr the pump body shots sucks
Thunder>havoc
the havoc does way less damage to the body most of the times than the thunder and has shit accuracy, thunder still the goat. so ig im gonna main the maven now lol
Can’t wait for the crybabies to rush this replies section, I knew I wasn’t the only one who thought the havoc was dogwater
@@user-ku3sr7cl3u everyone's jumping on the hype train of the havoc being the goat just because it has the word 'pump' in it. in reality, it's shit and is nowhere near the og pump.
@@icyify it shoots faster then the pump, it does more damage, it is more accurate, you just lost your skill
@@KwikBRlooks like the other dude wasnt wrong about the crybaby part lol
@@KwikBR "shoots faster than the pump" lmao. The crapvoc literally has the worst pull out time of all the shotguns.
Thunder still in the game?
no
We all got duped, We Thought the mythic what’s good But all along the gray one was a good one 😮
It is good. He just went against trash players
@@Joe-lc3sv and his aim is good for it, if you have bad aim it don’t work as well
english? grammar?
first
Congrats
thanks
Guys, I'm not the first to say this and will not be the last.
It does not matter wich weapon is better.
It matters who is using it.
Even the RECYCLER COULD BE AN AMAZING WEAPON IF BRANDED BY A PRO!
SAME THING WITH EVERY GUN!
nah
@@Localbosnianmf sure lil bro
@@Localbosnianmf mf this comment is 11 months ago
Even the anvil rocket launcher?
@@WorldSlash_ ehmmm....good point.
I came 6th with the only weapon i used was thunder common (and 12 kills too)😂😂
Although that sesason was only like 9 month ago I'm starting to miss it. Better fps, more fun weapons and actually better looking game I think. Also the hammer and this anvil city were crazy cool!
what is the name of the music you used for the end part?
You never knew the value of what you had untill its gone
hell yeah I already miss thunder. and maven as well :c
@@cptpropane fortnite reload here we go
@@sahalabdulgafoor4372 yeah I already won one with it. love that shotty, love the twin-mag
Day 2 of asking ben to make a discord server
He's made one, however it's just the server lol
Mytic pump does more damage. You're fighting players with terrible aim.
I miss thunder 😢
your my favorite fortnite RUclipsr. Love your content
Day 7 of trying to get Ben to play builds
mythical pump is better than thunder is obviously you play with people who are bots and obviously you make thunder look better than mythical pump but the myhical pump is better than thunder because pump have more damage and more bullets
good luck reloading in time!
I’m glad I’m not the only one who feels the havoc is so weak
the havoc is the best shotgun to ever be in the game apart from pre-nerf combat lmao
huh
So i found out that that is not the only npc that where you can get that thing every npc that you can hire has one the more you know😊
They should have removed maven and kept thunder
People didn’t like the thunder but me I loved it
I kinda miss this season
Ngl I have watched this more than 300 times just for the gameplay and to game some skill
Day 3 of getting Vice,Aid,Premfn and Ben marro in a squad
Great idea
Day 6 I believe of asking for a free sub on twitch (just doing it for fun)
Havoc pump is better then Thunder shotgun so i dont understand
It ain't about the equipment, it's about the player
😅but the havoc is till doo doo tho
@@pollo8414 hell naw
I tried this today and dropped 13 kills and the dub w ben
This is before snake and peter griffin in the game weird
Day 1 of asking Ben to do a locker tour
thunder has better aim, but doesnt do much damage, havoc has decent aim, but does so much more damage.(Im good with the havoc, so it must just be a skill issue for the people who died)
I loved the thunder, best shotgun and I feel, if they were unvaulted, would pare up well with the pump, and even more so with the charge and maaayyybeeee the tac, the thunder feels so so nice to use
worst shotgun*
the purple and leg tac shotty and charge were probably the best shotguns in the game (i mean the season 8 tacs not the c2 c1+ ones)
1:11 music
thunder shotgun is the best but it unupgraded able so it will be hard
上手いけどちょくちょくエイム悪くね？ww😅
You seem like a god contestant for zero build arena
Ben, your videos give me life.
cool he didnt see ur comment
you have a life?!
Everyone that he kills is like “he’s hacking!!!!”
its so over powered i need it back
this was my favorite season
0:49 BRO JUST DAMAGED 200+??
He’s in zero build
Dang people think this is crazy? Just head into team rumble and open a supply drop. My last games load out was a pump, boom bow, drum gun, heavy ar
the thunder isnt better, youre just cracked even with a grey pistol
The thunder shotgun is gone😢
When you kill the npc she drops the havoc not the thunder shotty
R.I.P
Thunder shotgun
@Bens Shorts how do you make your keyboard quite In your vids.
I accidentally forgot bout my meme legacy
maybe the real mythic shotgun was the common shotguns we made along the way
Thunder is not just better, YOU are better
imagane bros life did depend on it cos he was getting held at gunpoint by a robber and he was saying win or die and you just got him killed💀
Your a little rusty with it? phh. I am TERRIBLE with it
bro u sound like fearlwss
Bro all here is noob you most play arena for you can win if you dont can play witch better player havoc is to much better then thunder
Listen I’m a LITTILE rusty with it ok… is what the text said
Yo-Zanna
when the season first came out like the minute it came out I'm pretty sure I found the thunder first as I was doing a season quest and this npc called thunder dropped it when i killed it
Bro is still in season 1
only reason i didnt like thunder was the goofy ahh reticle
has anyone noticed they're more likes than vies
That one time one the island the tundrrrrr, broooooooo, sorryyyyyyyy
Gosh time goes so fast
He doesn’t realize he’s just killing ppl with mythic pumps but suck at the game
I loved the thunder, best shotgun and I feel, if they were unvaulted, would pare up well with the pump, and even more so with the charge and maaayyybeeee the tac, the thunder feels so so nice to use
i subbed ur sick cl
Day one: of asking for the name of the song that played at the two minute mark of the getting railed in season two video
1:43, his damage counter fades, then he hits 210 fact check it'
Gold havoc > gold thunder
Cap Glod thunder is better
Gold
@@melissawilson8957 nah
Can you please stream on Saturday because I want to watch your stream but I have school
Man, I hate sweaty defaults. Smh
The guy you killed at 1:53 is on my friends list!😭😭
its an ai tho
200+ fps,20 pin game is zero build😂😂
i think the twin mag and thunder shotgun was and is the best loadout.
You can’t get it anymore tho
yeah i thought that too, how did he get it?
Bro has the smart pistol early 💀
Another veshremy clone
Brown
well it beacsue youre playing against bots like bots
That guy in the renzo the destroyer skin hit the griddy before dying😭😭
i am your 8 comment
How did the people with mythic havocs die the mythic havoc pump literally does 200 to the head but in zero build it does 250 so it's designed to one shot
in a normal game it also does 250
@@EM10BASEBALL actually, epic has fixed overflow but it still happens... rarely tho...
idk i feel like the havoc is extremely slow and very inaccurate. it might just be my aim, but whenever i use a thunder, pump, prime or any other decent shotgun my aim feels a lot better
The havoc is ass.
Why did u say listen im a little rusty with it ok? 0:31
day 1 of asking ben to make a discord server and send its invite
Thunder, feel the thunder. Lightning and the thunder, thunder.
It’s not the gun that makes the player, Its the player that makes the gun
Ben Are you a little rusty with it?
3 NPC’s drops the thunder shotgun
The guy on the roof was my freind LOL
sadly, now its back to havoc pump
I know lame that you can not upgrade it
why did u sounded like bugha in the start
Havoc is absolute dog
Epic transition 0:54
So good I didn't even notice. Kinda thought it was odd he got that far