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Vintage Gibson PAF Pickups - Going under cover
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- Опубликовано: 15 май 2020
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A set of vintage PAF pickups has come in the post for a bit of work. One of the covers has been poorly refitted and while Huw is refitting it properly, we thought you’d appreciate an up close look under the cover of Gibson’s most revered and mythologised pickup. We have recorded a short demo too.
1:15 Solder Sucking
2:45 Sawing Through
4:04 Soldering The Cover
5:48 Finishing Up
5:52 Outro
8:16 Demo
PAFs loaded into 1982 Greco and played through a 1952 5A3 Fender Tweed Deluxe. Amp audio recorded with Coles 4038 through a V72 preamp and Universal Audio Apollo 8 Quad.
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Diolch,
Aroswch adref, Amddiffin ein GIG, bwytwch eich llysiau. Achub bywydau!
I will never forget hearing the sound of Mark Knopfler’s 1958 Les Paul for the first time. Those PAF’s are just incredible. He has a ‘59 too, a great pair !
indeed fantastic player and guitars
Your videos have been fascinating - especially the Chris Buck restoration - Thank you
Many thanks!
Sorry everybody, we forgot to mention the DC readings of the pickups. The neck and bridge are 8.06K and 7.58K respectively
Shouldn't the bridge pickup have the higher reading than the neck pickup?
@@b.rodclark7349 Ideally yes, but I'm not about to start swapping leadout wires on a set of PAFs. There's not that much in it and the pickups can be set to balance out nicely. Guess it just goes to show that Gibson didn't pay that much attention to DCR readings in the 50s. We've encountered some original Bursts with the same mismatch.
thats amazing, great video readings super close to the 57 classics, what repro covers would you suggest? that are real nickel silver
@@b.rodclark7349 Some years ago I was lucky enough to appraise the Kossoff/Ram burst. The neck pickup read 8.52 and the bridge 7.43.
@@cgavin1 oh ok... so the neck pickup would have to be lowered to balance with the bridge pickup evenly on that note.
Oh wow! Amazing! Thanks Huw!
Always happy to oblige with some breakfast viewing ;)
Impeccable tone
I always enjoy your videos, truly looking forward to the next Chris Buck Strat video. Well done!
Thanks!
Your videos are always a great way to sit back and relax with a cup of coffee on a weekend. Keep it up. Can't wait to see you tackle Chris Bucks strat body... 😉
Thanks Nils ;)
Great video! Nice job
HOW TO MAKE A NECK THICKER - Several of you have asked so you should find all the info you need on the following links
guitar.com/guides/diy-workshop/goldtop-conversion-part-3/
guitar.com/guides/diy-workshop/diy-workshop-gretsch-conversion-part-two/
guitar.com/guides/diy-workshop/workshop-gretsch-conversion-part-three/
Brilliant, very informative, keep up he good work!!! Also I think I saw you guys at Venendaal guitar show in last September!!
Well we were definitely there. Would love to come again one day...
Nice to see & hear the Greco after the magazine article series from a good while ago - sounds rather tasty!
Check out guitar.com Chris because you'll be seeing a bit more of this guitar very soon
Beautiful tone. And playing by the way. Pretty sure Billy Gibbons would appreciate too!
Thanks Philippe.
Your videos are nice Saturday morning fare here in Houston. Sounds great.
Thanks 👍
I saw a guy remove a pickup cover by melting the solder and sliding a business card between the joint. Do you recommend doing that?
I prefer cutting the solder joint with I method that prevents the blade going deeper into the pickup. That keeps the solder area small (here you enlarge the area quite a bit so everyone could see the pickup has been messed with). When you cut the solder joint you can just reheat it when you put the cover back on and hardly no can tell the repair
Super cool. Did you happen to document the veneering and neck-thickening operations?
Also, this channel has all the makings of a coffee-table book. Just saying. 😃
Thanks bevo. Huw has been writing very in depth articles on DIY amp and guitar stuff for almost 20 years. Many of them are on the guitar.com website and have also been published in 'bookazines' - which is sort of like a coffee table book but, with cheaper paper and covers ;)
Thanks for sharing. Very interesting.
Thanks for watching
How on earth did you “thicken up the neck a little”??? On the Greco I mean. Lovely looking guitar.
By the way, did you take resistance readings on those two paf pickups?
Love your videos.
Hi John, thanks for that. Yes I did take the measurements, but forgot to post them. I'll add a post above with the readings. The way you can increase the depth of a neck is by back veneering the fretboard. Of course that means taking the board off, along with the binding, gluing the veneer on, doing new binding and dots, then sticking it back on. The board binding ends up looking a bit deeper, but not in an obvious way if you're only adding 1mm or so. The visual difference is slight, but the playing feel changes a lot.
Tone Twins TV thanks. And once again, great video.
Tone Twins TV interesting.
Amazing content as always. Thanks.
Much appreciated!
Hi Huw, What wattage iron did you use. I tried this recently but my iron struggled.
Hi Cliff, the one I use is a Precision Gold A55KJ. I set the temperature between 425C and 450C when I'm soldering onto pot casings, PAF covers and so forth. closer to 350C for solder tags and PCBs. For my purposes it's perfect, and it's easy to buy replacement tips, but it isn't powerful enough to solder ground connections onto amp chassis and spring claws.
Hue - how did you thicken the neck on the Greco? Please consider a show on this process. Cheers Jono
See my answer to John below. If you want more detail, check out my Goldtop conversion articles on the guitar.com website.
Thanks Huw - sorry for the autocorrected spelling on your name earlier
@@jonathanking7594 No worries Jonathan, I'm quite used to it. So long as there's no 'g' involved, I'm good ;)
super nice video, is it recommended to put just a tiny bit of wax or tape in between?
also what pickup height do you recommend for PAF pickups, outstanding channel really enjoy the videos
Gibson didn't so we didn't. People do that to lessen the microphony, but we like that aspect of the original PAFs - so long as they don't squeal. No recommendations on height because it's just a matter of personal preference. But we would advise you to experiment with height settings and also pole screw height settings to gain a better understanding of how they influence tone and output. You might be surprised by how much the voicing of a good PAF style pickup can be changed through manipulating those parameters.
@@tonetwinstv2863 Thank you very much for your kind response amazing show, shure i will experiment with this parameters
Hi, really enjoying these videos, keep them coming! What soldering iron do you use \ recommend always struggled with this, do you have different wattage for different jobs? Thanks again
Nothing fancy, just a temperature controlled one that I bought in Maplins. I think I had it set to 425C when I did this.
How do you thicken a neck? I’m intrigued!
Hello Huw. Nice video as ever and nice sound indeed. I have a pair of Tom Holmes Pickups that I find a bit spiky on my Pearly Gates Les Paul (Did not liked the Pearly Gates pickups). So I am looking for aged vintage nickel repro covers. I leave in a small village in France and only the internet can help me !!! Do you have any suggestion for a manufacturer who could provide me a nice aged nickel repro vintage correct pair of covers ? Cheers, Vincent.
Hi Vincent. I don't know that much about the repro covers to be honest, but the things I look for are the slight indentations around the areas where the screw holes are punched out and the right kind of rollover at the edges and corners. The most important thing though is that they're made of the correct metal and are the right thickness. I also found that the original vintage cover on this pickup was a perfect fit, but the hole spacing is a little off on some of the repros and they have to be 'persuaded' onto the pickups. Maybe check out Area 59s from Crazyparts and the Throbak covers. The covers on Amber pickups in Germany look good too, but I don't know if they're available separately. Anyway, good luck and let us know what you decide - H
@@tonetwinstv2863 Thank's a lot Huw. Did not know about Amber pickups but the other two where my ideas. I will keep you posted. Cheers and take care, Vincent.
Who makes a good pair of PAFs that are reasonable priced?
I have a set of Onamac Windery pickups I really enjoy and Kerry is a good guy but they run about $250, same go for Duncan Antiquity pickups. Dimarzio PAF’s have been around awhile and are around $200 new a set and if you need something lower than that Planet Tone make great pickups for about $120 a set.
I don't understand why gibson doesn't just re create the paf for every humbucker guitar
you and us both
What a messy job.