Always see people test enemies cc immunity, but never point out that if your health bar has a golden aura it means you are cc immune, many characters have moments like this, like punisher in his ultimate at all times, jeff can't even swallow you.
@@riiel3474which is funny, since Marvel rivals also has a health bar aura for when healing received is amplified. The difference is the marvel rivals aura is green not yellow.
I also got matched with someone whos highlight was them spawning in. It was a Hulk on our team, and he didn't even transform into Hulk in the highlight. He went like 0/6 for the whole match because he was playing as a tank in the backline trying not to get hurt.
6:10 Rocket is like Mercy if she didn't have to rely on teammates for her mobility. There's so many fun techs with it like you can get a massive horizontal boost if you dash of a wall at just the right angle
7:55 Fantastic 4 debiuted in 1961, whereas Oda, Luffy and One Piece's creator was born in 1975. Mister Fantastic is so much older than him that he had his debiut 14 years before Luffy's creator was born.
@@ra0028534this is the most relevant it can get, the guy was saying Mr fantastic copied luffy when luffy’s creator wasn’t even alive until 14 years after Mr fantastic was a thing
8:10 The moves reed used arent likely a reference, as you can find panels with these moves before luffy debuted them, they however do share similar move kits in general Additionally there is actually a One piece reference in rivals, one of the card customizations from last years winter even resembles the pre timeskip version of chopper
I think the Luffy comparison is less about "has Mr Fantastic done this?" and more "is this his go to move? If Luffy didn't exist is this really what you'd do for Mr Fantastic?" and my opinion is 'not really' (aside from the basic punches of course).
fun fact about the Mr Fantastic/Luffy debate is Luffy is a kinda copy of Mr Fantastic, and vice versa. yes Mr Fantastic came first he is from the 60s, oda sayed in some interviews that he liked Marvel and DC comics and inspired to make manga's.
I really hate the Mr Fantastic/Luffy debate. It turned what was a pretty innocuous question, that I think was just asked in complete honesty, into a bad faith argument that completely ignores what the original Twitter user was asking.
This, that was probably the stupidest debate i have seen, no one was arguing who came first or if Reed can do it or not. Reed's form looks like the typical OP "i skip leg day" form, and people wondered if it was a reference to Luffy, since Reed doesn't really fight like that, he's usually a grappler. Wolverine goes super saiyan in the game so that wouldn't be a surprise.
4:12 I missed season 0 because I was playing POE 2, so I am coming in late to ranked. Going from Bronze 3 to Bronze 2 was a nightmare. Long AF load-in times, people randomly going AFK, actual bot accounts, people sitting at spawn door on payload defense, people waiting in spawn room on payload defense. Climbing became so much easier after hitting Bronze 2.
Fun Fact: Luffy made his first appearance in 1997. Mr. Fantastic (or Reed Richards) first debuted in 1961 for the first Fantastic Four comics. But before Mr. Fantastic was Plastic Man, who appeared in Police Comics #1 in 1941. They all have different powers, and the only similarities between them are that they can stretch but in different ways.
Plastic man came out before either and was way more about transformations. Reed rarely ever does transformations and uses more tech, Him not having like some sort of gadget is kinda weird but I don't hate it.
@@crownifiedReed did already do everything that Luffy did in the manga in his comics years before Luffy did and the stuff you see in game is still what reed did in the comics
7:55 Just because one character came first doesn't mean that they can't do things inspired by later characters. It is entirely possible that Mr Fantastic's moves are based on Luffy.
4:22 the “missing the boat” theory just like a bunch of other credible team shooter theories are true to an extent. Just like Elo hell, and Loser lobbies were both theories until just a few seasons ago Overwatch admitted that loser lobbies were a real thing “that shouldn’t happen anymore after this next patch”. But they still happen. All of these algorithm based things happen when these companies have an algorithm designed for engagement based matchmaking and not true skill based. There is usually a boat of REALLY good players at the beginning, middle and very end of each season that if you are lucky enough to queue in with, then u can litterally win everything. The same goes for weekend lobbies when the school aged sweats are the most active, and either your lucky enough to back fill their teams or misfortunate enough to always play against them. It just happens. But you can get around this by being good though, i missed the boat to week 1/2 celestial. But i am still at Gm 2 and have little issue winning. The only thing that has changed is that my winrate has dropped from 65% during the boat to 50% now. Still more then enough to win and climb, just not the insane rate it was week one
People are missing the whole point of the Luffy comparison. I don't think most people are accusing X of copying Y. The comparison is mostly that YES, Mr Fantastic is older and YES there's examples of him doing each of these things. BUT if you were to make a move set inspired only by Mr Fantastic, aside from the stretch punch how many of these things are iconic parts of how Mr Fantastic fights? Reed Richards is more well known for using his genius to make gadgets that help than he is for turning into a big buff ball. He spends more time wrapping people up by stretching his torso. So yes, Luffy does things that Mr Fantastic has done before, but the reason people make the comparison is because the Marvel Rivals abilities read very clearly as iconic Luffy moves whereas for Mr Fantastic they are just things he is *capable of* and *has done before* but aren't iconic to him. And it's not like I'm angry that I play as pseudo-Luffy in Marvel Rivals because I'd honestly prefer this than playing Reed Richards who uses gadgets.
Luffy body is made of rubber while reeds power is full on stretching luffy cant keep his body in a diffrent state indefinitly while reed prety much can turn into a rug forever if he choses to.
8:25 To be fair Black Widow isn't known for sniping and Widowmaker is. Placing the only spy and not giving them spy abilities but a sniping kit... I can see where he coming from
Rocket doesn’t deserve the hate, he’s definitely a better pick than Adam imo, rocket has better heals, has a better rez that gets you to full, a very good team up with punisher and WS, he also has mobility while Adam has no utility to defend himself, adam can waste soul bond and heal himself but both of those are abilities you want to use more tactfully and lastly rocket has a better ult
lol as someone that has played a ton of punished the rockets are only auto shoot autolock sorta (they shoot closest enemy they can see near your reticle)
6:20 the mercy of Rivals is easily C/D. Its not even close. Rocket u actually need to have good ult timing to get value from your ult. And be good with maneuverability to not die. Cloak and dagger u litterally just sit back and spam heals just like rocket but u get rewarded with the most broken free value ult In the game, and if u get pressured then u have a million diffrent cool downs that can help u escape. Rocket u have just two dashes and better hope your next to a wall. I picked up rocket this season after solo queuing to GM last season maining mantis, Thor, penni & wolverine, because rockets kit is super fun. And I always laugh at people that try and call me no skill and then i point to the previous season where i didnt play a single second on him or C/D🤣
In my opinion, the first one is a completely unfair comparison. Of course Rivals is going to release more heroes because they have DECADES of source material to draw inspiration from. Every hero that Overwatch releases has to be thought up from scratch, not to mention that a lot of the OW lore team was layed off. It is fair to say that the more consistant hero realeases are something that you like about Rivals, but I think it is unfair to make a direct comparison.
The highlights are wack sometimes, I'd remember distinctly a 1v2 I won on specialist. And then my highlight would be healing 1 guy and immediately dying..
8:53 Do people not think? The gold healthbar means you are CC immune. Which means you cant get frozen, slept, grappled, jeff ulted, nothing. And that ability makes it so you absorb damage and reflect it. So why try thor and venom? 🤦♂️
@ But the point is A. Seeing if any kind of CC or ultimate somehow bypasses it, B. Seeing which ultimates it's most effective against and C. Just entertaining? That video was made when he was like, BRAND new.
@@dakotakade3547 that's the thing, the damage mitigation absorbs EVERYTHING. not knowing you don't take damage during the animation ending is one thing, but there is no limit to how much damage you can absorb, only how much he sends back. And the gold healthbar is on a bunch of other things, such as magneto bubble. They work THE EXACT SAME WAY. They both give the gold healthbar, they both block damage. Only one reflect the damage and the other doesn't. No testing needed.
Can’t believe most of these comments are whining over the Mr fantastic and Luffy comparison, like give it a rest already, it’s really not that serious 😂
Mr. Fantastic is older then luffy he was created first.. also fucking punches are the most fucking basic attack of all time how would that be a copy lmao
holy fuck that mrfantastic tiktok was so pointless and uninteresting. Why did we even watch the whole thing. The problem with this series I feel is that flats will spend half the video on one tiktok, happens way too often
honestly I think Wanda's ult should just kill. Not do enough damage to insta-kill. Just kill you no matter what if you are in the AOE when it procs. I think it should go through shields too but that might be broken.
The idea that the game is successful simply because the character models are hot is ridiculous. Just because your brain works like a cavemans doesn't mean that applies to everyone. Stop projecting.
Always see people test enemies cc immunity, but never point out that if your health bar has a golden aura it means you are cc immune, many characters have moments like this, like punisher in his ultimate at all times, jeff can't even swallow you.
that whole tiktok was so pointless
Whenever I see golden aura I can only think Ana anti
@@riiel3474which is funny, since Marvel rivals also has a health bar aura for when healing received is amplified. The difference is the marvel rivals aura is green not yellow.
@@kiiturii only thing it was useful for was that you can survive psylocke ult if you time it correctly
its not only cc immunity the golden aura can show up for just damage resistance
Nah Flat's comment about the Loki interaction with Bucky ult is so real I abuse that all the time.
I also got matched with someone whos highlight was them spawning in. It was a Hulk on our team, and he didn't even transform into Hulk in the highlight. He went like 0/6 for the whole match because he was playing as a tank in the backline trying not to get hurt.
6:10 Rocket is like Mercy if she didn't have to rely on teammates for her mobility. There's so many fun techs with it like you can get a massive horizontal boost if you dash of a wall at just the right angle
7:55 Fantastic 4 debiuted in 1961, whereas Oda, Luffy and One Piece's creator was born in 1975. Mister Fantastic is so much older than him that he had his debiut 14 years before Luffy's creator was born.
Irrelevant to the topic.
@@ra0028534this is the most relevant it can get, the guy was saying Mr fantastic copied luffy when luffy’s creator wasn’t even alive until 14 years after Mr fantastic was a thing
Quite literally is the most relevant info
Mr fantastic had luffys powers over a decade before luffys creator was born @ra0028534
8:10
The moves reed used arent likely a reference, as you can find panels with these moves before luffy debuted them, they however do share similar move kits in general
Additionally there is actually a One piece reference in rivals, one of the card customizations from last years winter even resembles the pre timeskip version of chopper
I think the Luffy comparison is less about "has Mr Fantastic done this?" and more "is this his go to move? If Luffy didn't exist is this really what you'd do for Mr Fantastic?" and my opinion is 'not really' (aside from the basic punches of course).
The only move people were talking about was the typical OP "i skip leg day" build, anything else was just people being stupid.
I aint sure but i think Mr fantastic is a older character then Luffy
@ .......ok?
@@ra0028534 ?
Money for my favorite part time streamer
THE WAY FLATS CALLED OUT SUE MAINS IN SPAWN LMAOOOOO NOOOOOO
They should also put "Born Again!" in Winter Soldier's Again and you ended up looping the video without you noticing.
Take me updated where Loki‘s clones no longer activate Buckys Ult anymore.
Ive never seen a bucky reactivate his ult off of my clones
Oh Thank God. Chat tryin to gaslight us about the Punisher ult had me scared LOL
11:04 btw, Mr. Fantastic CAN survive Storm’s ult, he just triggered the ability too early
fun fact about the Mr Fantastic/Luffy debate is Luffy is a kinda copy of Mr Fantastic, and vice versa. yes Mr Fantastic came first he is from the 60s, oda sayed in some interviews that he liked Marvel and DC comics and inspired to make manga's.
The police would had been the perfect place to put the loki clones on that 2nd clip
I really hate the Mr Fantastic/Luffy debate. It turned what was a pretty innocuous question, that I think was just asked in complete honesty, into a bad faith argument that completely ignores what the original Twitter user was asking.
This, that was probably the stupidest debate i have seen, no one was arguing who came first or if Reed can do it or not.
Reed's form looks like the typical OP "i skip leg day" form, and people wondered if it was a reference to Luffy, since Reed doesn't really fight like that, he's usually a grappler.
Wolverine goes super saiyan in the game so that wouldn't be a surprise.
Love the Rivals Meme Episodes! Thanks to all who contribute to the suggestions because there are so many great ones.
wait until flats finds namor came before aquaman
4:12 I missed season 0 because I was playing POE 2, so I am coming in late to ranked. Going from Bronze 3 to Bronze 2 was a nightmare. Long AF load-in times, people randomly going AFK, actual bot accounts, people sitting at spawn door on payload defense, people waiting in spawn room on payload defense. Climbing became so much easier after hitting Bronze 2.
Fun Fact: Luffy made his first appearance in 1997. Mr. Fantastic (or Reed Richards) first debuted in 1961 for the first Fantastic Four comics. But before Mr. Fantastic was Plastic Man, who appeared in Police Comics #1 in 1941. They all have different powers, and the only similarities between them are that they can stretch but in different ways.
Yes. Reed was basically Luffy before Luffy was an idea.
Oh helllllllll NAAAWWWHHHH
Ok yes but specifically his moveset in Rivals is moreso what Luffy would do rather than what Reed does in the comics.
Plastic man came out before either and was way more about transformations.
Reed rarely ever does transformations and uses more tech,
Him not having like some sort of gadget is kinda weird but I don't hate it.
@@crownifiedReed did already do everything that Luffy did in the manga in his comics years before Luffy did and the stuff you see in game is still what reed did in the comics
@@crownified Bro you are literally Ybarra saying that shi about Blackwidow and widowmaker 💀💀
7:55 Just because one character came first doesn't mean that they can't do things inspired by later characters. It is entirely possible that Mr Fantastic's moves are based on Luffy.
4:22 the “missing the boat” theory just like a bunch of other credible team shooter theories are true to an extent.
Just like Elo hell, and Loser lobbies were both theories until just a few seasons ago Overwatch admitted that loser lobbies were a real thing “that shouldn’t happen anymore after this next patch”. But they still happen.
All of these algorithm based things happen when these companies have an algorithm designed for engagement based matchmaking and not true skill based.
There is usually a boat of REALLY good players at the beginning, middle and very end of each season that if you are lucky enough to queue in with, then u can litterally win everything. The same goes for weekend lobbies when the school aged sweats are the most active, and either your lucky enough to back fill their teams or misfortunate enough to always play against them. It just happens. But you can get around this by being good though, i missed the boat to week 1/2 celestial. But i am still at Gm 2 and have little issue winning. The only thing that has changed is that my winrate has dropped from 65% during the boat to 50% now. Still more then enough to win and climb, just not the insane rate it was week one
People are missing the whole point of the Luffy comparison. I don't think most people are accusing X of copying Y. The comparison is mostly that YES, Mr Fantastic is older and YES there's examples of him doing each of these things. BUT if you were to make a move set inspired only by Mr Fantastic, aside from the stretch punch how many of these things are iconic parts of how Mr Fantastic fights? Reed Richards is more well known for using his genius to make gadgets that help than he is for turning into a big buff ball. He spends more time wrapping people up by stretching his torso.
So yes, Luffy does things that Mr Fantastic has done before, but the reason people make the comparison is because the Marvel Rivals abilities read very clearly as iconic Luffy moves whereas for Mr Fantastic they are just things he is *capable of* and *has done before* but aren't iconic to him.
And it's not like I'm angry that I play as pseudo-Luffy in Marvel Rivals because I'd honestly prefer this than playing Reed Richards who uses gadgets.
jeff is the mercy of rivals, hes the hero that everyones girlfriend plays.
shout out editor for leaving the punisher ult clip at the end
Always fun to watch Marvel Rivals go through the same stages of grief as overwatch did before role lock
Luffy body is made of rubber while reeds power is full on stretching luffy cant keep his body in a diffrent state indefinitly while reed prety much can turn into a rug forever if he choses to.
I didn't know punisher even had rockets 😂
8:25
To be fair Black Widow isn't known for sniping and Widowmaker is. Placing the only spy and not giving them spy abilities but a sniping kit... I can see where he coming from
She does actually use sniper rifles somewhat often in the comics
I wish I had this recorded but I myself had a highlight, we won the game and I was the MVP and my Highlight was me dieing
i found out about the loki solider thing today and yeah i was sad
Chat saying Mr fantastic is the same as luffy have never in their life read a comic
Rocket doesn’t deserve the hate, he’s definitely a better pick than Adam imo, rocket has better heals, has a better rez that gets you to full, a very good team up with punisher and WS, he also has mobility while Adam has no utility to defend himself, adam can waste soul bond and heal himself but both of those are abilities you want to use more tactfully and lastly rocket has a better ult
Flats is ready to put on a show
Interesting thing I found out. Ironman ult does more damage than scarlet witch ult.
lol as someone that has played a ton of punished the rockets are only auto shoot autolock sorta (they shoot closest enemy they can see near your reticle)
Had max volume and that OK CHAT startled me
I played a match and I played SO SO BAD that my highlight was exiting the spawn...
So true though the Loki thing is such a skill issue without much people can get away with that
6:20 the mercy of Rivals is easily C/D. Its not even close. Rocket u actually need to have good ult timing to get value from your ult. And be good with maneuverability to not die. Cloak and dagger u litterally just sit back and spam heals just like rocket but u get rewarded with the most broken free value ult
In the game, and if u get pressured then u have a million diffrent cool downs that can help u escape. Rocket u have just two dashes and better hope your next to a wall.
I picked up rocket this season after solo queuing to GM last season maining mantis, Thor, penni & wolverine, because rockets kit is super fun. And I always laugh at people that try and call me no skill and then i point to the previous season where i didnt play a single second on him or C/D🤣
The Mr. Fantastic = Luffy thing is so dumb to me. Oh wow, two people both have rubber powers and you're saying they BOTH use stretchy punch??? WILD
Whew, I'm included in the 46%.
In my opinion, the first one is a completely unfair comparison. Of course Rivals is going to release more heroes because they have DECADES of source material to draw inspiration from. Every hero that Overwatch releases has to be thought up from scratch, not to mention that a lot of the OW lore team was layed off. It is fair to say that the more consistant hero realeases are something that you like about Rivals, but I think it is unfair to make a direct comparison.
I like marvel rivals
Rocket is current mercy. Adam was moth meta mercy
One of my highlights was me killing my team as jeff 😭 3:48
(They were all ahh dps a did not want to be support)
ARMED AND WHAT?!?!?!🗣🗣🗣
those tik toks were kinda.. bad
Ya none of them were really funny at least I wasn’t the only one that have said this 😭
facts
While I wouldn't call it funny, having someone do the too many DPS in rocket and everyone's voice was peak
3:50 mfw the players in bronze aren't good at the game 🤯
Finally ! ! Been waiting
2:09 LOL
The highlights are wack sometimes, I'd remember distinctly a 1v2 I won on specialist. And then my highlight would be healing 1 guy and immediately dying..
8:53
Do people not think? The gold healthbar means you are CC immune. Which means you cant get frozen, slept, grappled, jeff ulted, nothing. And that ability makes it so you absorb damage and reflect it. So why try thor and venom? 🤦♂️
Because it's fun to experiment and see how the interactions work?
@@dakotakade3547 yet they mean nothing and the fun only last for as long at they wonder then comes crushing down upon failure.
@@dakotakade3547idk their over reactions from not getting hit from cc make it seem like they don’t know
@ But the point is A. Seeing if any kind of CC or ultimate somehow bypasses it, B. Seeing which ultimates it's most effective against and C. Just entertaining? That video was made when he was like, BRAND new.
@@dakotakade3547 that's the thing, the damage mitigation absorbs EVERYTHING. not knowing you don't take damage during the animation ending is one thing, but there is no limit to how much damage you can absorb, only how much he sends back.
And the gold healthbar is on a bunch of other things, such as magneto bubble. They work THE EXACT SAME WAY. They both give the gold healthbar, they both block damage. Only one reflect the damage and the other doesn't. No testing needed.
Rocket depends on comp. Need a punisher or bucky or hes not that great imo. Atleast from my expierence in Plat
Bro how do you not know Bradley Cooper voiced rocket 🤦♂️
Bro how do you not stfu cuz no one asked 🤦♂️
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Can’t believe most of these comments are whining over the Mr fantastic and Luffy comparison, like give it a rest already, it’s really not that serious 😂
just Press e👍
Mr. Fantastic is older then luffy he was created first..
also fucking punches are the most fucking basic attack of all time how would that be a copy lmao
Uh gain
Luffy is a copy of Mr fantastic period Mr fantastic is the stretch man og luffy is the young blood
holy fuck that mrfantastic tiktok was so pointless and uninteresting. Why did we even watch the whole thing.
The problem with this series I feel is that flats will spend half the video on one tiktok, happens way too often
honestly I think Wanda's ult should just kill. Not do enough damage to insta-kill. Just kill you no matter what if you are in the AOE when it procs.
I think it should go through shields too but that might be broken.
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I’m not a bot
Non so cosa ho appena guardato, ma è stato bellissimo. Lo rifacciamo💝
The idea that the game is successful simply because the character models are hot is ridiculous. Just because your brain works like a cavemans doesn't mean that applies to everyone. Stop projecting.
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Who likes these bots??!?!?!
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These TikToks aren’t really funny tbh they are more cringe then anything