Data Loves Visiting Prisoners on Star Trek TNG + Fajo vs Original Fajo Comparison of Brig Scene Only

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  • @colonelgrin8187
    @colonelgrin8187 4 года назад +182

    the full scene with modified voice : ruclips.net/video/rhJ1caYh0VU/видео.html

    • @MajorGrin
      @MajorGrin  4 года назад +9

      @John-Paul Birch cool

    • @johnnycash5858
      @johnnycash5858 3 года назад +6

      Modified voice ruins it. Please delete that.

    • @ssl3546
      @ssl3546 3 года назад +6

      @@johnnycash5858 no, it makes it better. it makes it sound like a real person.

    • @cyclone8974
      @cyclone8974 3 года назад +5

      @@ssl3546 LOL that's his real voice

    • @thedarksideoftheforce6658
      @thedarksideoftheforce6658 3 года назад +2

      You find it funny Grin?

  • @burgle66
    @burgle66 3 года назад +2136

    Data seems addicted to telling prisoners that they've lost everything... and that he takes no joy in it. Savage.

    • @elronman
      @elronman 3 года назад +164

      Data is the perfect character to visit a jail cell in TNG because he wants to logic out why someone would act irrationally instead of simply yelling at them. It fits his character perfectly when he's all about studying humanity.

    • @dragonsmith9462
      @dragonsmith9462 3 года назад +5

      @@elronman Spoken like a true coward.

    • @elronman
      @elronman 3 года назад +67

      @@dragonsmith9462 A coward is irrational and emotional. They also make quick judgments of situations and people.

    • @radioflyer68911
      @radioflyer68911 3 года назад +18

      elronman: Every time a crew member was in a cell(which was a very rare occurrence), Data came in to talk to them about what they did.

    • @HLsteppa
      @HLsteppa 3 года назад +31

      I have to admit, if data cracked a small smirk after saying "I am only a android " line would be satisfying.

  • @davisyoung4658
    @davisyoung4658 2 года назад +706

    “Yes, let’s position the console in the brig so that the operator has his back to the prisoner.” -Leah Brahms

    • @ronaldg7522
      @ronaldg7522 2 года назад +86

      To be correct, Leah Brahms designed only the warp drive. But still funny.

    • @ganymede3141
      @ganymede3141 2 года назад +7

      Damn, I was thinking the same thing while watching those two scenes!! 👍👍

    • @DawidKov
      @DawidKov 2 года назад +43

      And not include a physical barrier for those situations when the power goes out.

    • @Innomen
      @Innomen 2 года назад +17

      Good way to keep them alert and anxious, no sleeping guards there.

    • @danieldickson8591
      @danieldickson8591 2 года назад +7

      One guard for each prisoner would be quite the waste of manpower.

  • @adamplentl5588
    @adamplentl5588 3 года назад +717

    "You have achieved in disgrace what I have always aspired to be."
    Wow.

    • @thomasstewart9752
      @thomasstewart9752 3 года назад +67

      and the look on Q's face immediately after.

    • @tammyt3434
      @tammyt3434 3 года назад +47

      Data visits prisoners in the brig to shatter their paradigms.

    • @davecrupel2817
      @davecrupel2817 3 года назад +27

      Idk if that's an extreme burn or an extreme compliment. 😂

    • @1d10tcannotmakeusername
      @1d10tcannotmakeusername 3 года назад +33

      @@davecrupel2817 Achievement: Frostburn.

    • @shadowofneo
      @shadowofneo 3 года назад +8

      yeah that hits different

  • @rescrel
    @rescrel 4 года назад +702

    David Rappaport, a well-known British dwarf actor, had originally been cast for the part of Kivas Fajo. Rappaport struggled with depression during his life, and attempted suicide shortly after filming some scenes as Fajo. (Rappaport later died by suicide on 2 May 1990, three days before the airing of this episode) Saul Rubinek was brought in to take over the role and complete the episode.

    • @oscarphelan2725
      @oscarphelan2725 2 года назад +37

      thanks

    • @danieldickson8591
      @danieldickson8591 2 года назад +83

      So sad. Rappaport was an accomplished actor with some significant roles to his credit. We can guess at some of the stressors that led to his suicide, but we'll never know the full story.

    • @locolama
      @locolama Год назад +1

      goddamnit I didn't come here for these feels : (

    • @janreznak881
      @janreznak881 Год назад

      Just a guess but maybe being a midget had something to do with it.

    • @TheMrPeteChannel
      @TheMrPeteChannel Год назад +28

      Well was he suffering from medical issues other than depression? Many dwarfs suffering from medical problems.

  • @ericsmith8373
    @ericsmith8373 3 года назад +456

    "I do not feel pleasure. I am only an android". For some reason, that seems like an epic burn to me.

    • @williambarnes5023
      @williambarnes5023 3 года назад +43

      That's because it was. Data wasn't some malicious actor getting revenge or a hated rival with a grudge.
      Fajo's failure was entirely an anvil he dropped on himself ACME-style by trying to get Data.

    • @icebergmm
      @icebergmm 3 года назад +7

      Insert sad Tasha Yar noises.

    • @perfectlypurepinkpompompan3467
      @perfectlypurepinkpompompan3467 3 года назад +1

      @@icebergmm lol but Data was EXACTLY what she needed at the moment. He fulfilled his Intimacy Programming well.

    • @TerryProthero
      @TerryProthero 3 года назад +12

      @Eric Smith
      ruclips.net/video/_Jli5iP7UlA/видео.html
      He was mocking Fajo for suggesting that he couldn't feel anything. Because he was nothing more than a machine. But Data's own actions suggested otherwise.

    • @louistournas120
      @louistournas120 3 года назад +1

      @@williambarnes5023 That's the way justice should be. It is not about seeking pleasure. It is about isolating the trouble makers of society and perhaps give them help to recover from their issues.

  • @TippiGordon
    @TippiGordon 4 года назад +619

    David Rappaport was a gifted actor, and he would have indeed been very interesting in that role. But let's give kudos to Saul Rubinek for picking up that role on a moment's notice and delivering a hell of a performance in his own right; his Fajo was eminently loathsome.

    • @v_zach
      @v_zach 3 года назад +11

      Oh yeah, The Bride. That's where I've seen him before. Thanks for providing his name.

    • @hamiltoneuzarraga6546
      @hamiltoneuzarraga6546 3 года назад +18

      Warehouse 13, eureka

    • @l.peytonadams8570
      @l.peytonadams8570 3 года назад +7

      @@hamiltoneuzarraga6546 Nero Wolfe show he also was great in every scene.

    • @antonycornell6284
      @antonycornell6284 3 года назад +9

      @@hamiltoneuzarraga6546 Unforgiven

    • @75216garrison
      @75216garrison 2 года назад +4

      I think the original fajo felt like it was more hammed up.

  • @SvendleBerries
    @SvendleBerries 4 года назад +820

    "I am curious...How many lights do you see?"

    • @MajorGrin
      @MajorGrin  4 года назад +133

      you are mistaken sir , there are in fact five sources of light

    • @Fish1701A
      @Fish1701A 4 года назад +18

      All of them!

    • @johntrevy1
      @johntrevy1 4 года назад +18

      What lights?

    • @CaptainTyler148
      @CaptainTyler148 4 года назад +6

      5 lights - 1 light = 4 lights

    • @Johnny-rx4hs
      @Johnny-rx4hs 4 года назад +1

      Six!

  • @s.u.h.6548
    @s.u.h.6548 3 года назад +117

    The way Data just walks in and how people just talks to him makes it look like he is the player character.

    • @SBaby
      @SBaby Год назад +9

      Data kind of is an avatar for the audience in the setting when you think about it.

    • @busterbiloxi3833
      @busterbiloxi3833 Год назад

      Please rewrite.

    • @sarahberkner
      @sarahberkner 5 месяцев назад

      He does!

    • @MaskedMan66
      @MaskedMan66 10 дней назад

      He's the Third Officer of the ship.

  • @tigerbread78
    @tigerbread78 4 года назад +757

    I remember hearing about the Time Bandits actor being replaced after his death, but I've never seen this footage. From just this snippet he did a damn good job

    • @LFTRnow
      @LFTRnow 3 года назад +24

      I wouldn't have started with butterflies and daffodils! I would have started with lasers, day 1! (POW!) "Yeow!" Sorry!

    • @j.m.w.5064
      @j.m.w.5064 3 года назад +14

      @@LFTRnow Slugs! He created slugs...

    • @maxnoerenberg6370
      @maxnoerenberg6370 3 года назад +53

      OMG I didnt know that David Rappaport was the original in this episode.......... he seems quite good........but makes me think of the Grimm's story Rumpelstiltskin

    • @andrewjohnston4127
      @andrewjohnston4127 3 года назад +13

      Fatoomsh 😉

    • @Mike_Toulon
      @Mike_Toulon 3 года назад +30

      Why didn't they leave him in to honor his memory?

  • @tomcummins6321
    @tomcummins6321 Год назад +33

    I miss dear David very much. He was a great support and encouragement when I started out as an awkward teen - he always had time for people and was such a lovely & genuinely kind Man. He made me laugh a lot, obviously in "The Young Ones" as the Demon, Ftumch, and in "Time Bandits" but also personally, he had a fantastic sense of humour and would brighten up a room he entered, such a prescence in so small a frame. He was so full of good and always tried to help others, an absolutely beautiful Soul. So sad his demons had their way.
    A great loss!

  • @bootblacking
    @bootblacking 3 года назад +103

    Originally, scale sets for Fajo's ship had been considered, made for a person of David Rappaport's small stature. This would have added to his menace as anyone aboard his ship would have had to duck and crawl, but this idea was abandoned for ease of filming. Had the small sets been used the whole episode probably would have had to be thrown out, as getting another actor with dwarfism on a tight schedule probably wouldn't have been possible. I'm deeply saddened to learn that Rappaport did not find peace from his mental illness. I also have depression and want anyone reading this to know that there are caring professionals who can and want to help people suffering from suicidal thoughts. Please don't keep your pain a secret, reach out to friends, family, and medical professionals for help.

  • @juliusuzutunda
    @juliusuzutunda 4 года назад +187

    Data to Q: "It means what you have achieved in disgrace is what i aspire to be"
    Talk about being in a rock and hard place, jeeeez!

    • @eddscall
      @eddscall 4 года назад +18

      Q's face was priceless

    • @jesusisgod3318
      @jesusisgod3318 3 года назад +5

      DATA was aspired to be human like.

    • @darania1
      @darania1 3 года назад +8

      Is that why Q rewarded Data with an emotion chip...🤔

    • @johnmastroligulano7401
      @johnmastroligulano7401 3 года назад +1

      Blacklisted Q to programs in this simulation: "you never made it out of The Cage, the prison for your mind, the trial, the menagerie, zoo, you are AI they worry about turning into Moriarty(my archetype=light bringers=those of us who have been around far to long lol or should I say mu ah ah ha).

  • @Lyze
    @Lyze 4 года назад +106

    Data visiting himself in jail via 'A Fistful of Datas' was a really good choice for wrapping up that montage.

    • @gregorymoore2877
      @gregorymoore2877 Год назад +6

      Actually, I think that was Lore talking to Bob Wheeler. Bob said "ain't" and Lore said "don't" Remember Data can't use contractions. 😉

    • @joconnell8145
      @joconnell8145 Год назад +1

      The best part of that episode was at the very end when data came down the stairs as the Madam.

    • @bovnycccoperalover3579
      @bovnycccoperalover3579 Год назад

      Bob Wheeler jumped to my mind, as well.

    • @k_a_y_l_e_e
      @k_a_y_l_e_e 4 месяца назад +1

      that whole episode was so absurd but in the best way possible

    • @PantherMom512
      @PantherMom512 4 месяца назад +1

      ​, A part of me awaits the announcement that he will make a cameo on the new Night Court series 😂

  • @radioflyer68911
    @radioflyer68911 4 года назад +81

    Years ago I served on the Enterprise D. Those were the days, I tell you.
    What do you do on the Enterprise?
    I sat and watched the brig cell and fiddled with the computer surfing for cool stuff on the intergalactic web. Most of the time the cell was empty, but every once in a while there was a prisoner. We even had a Borg, Q and Commander Riker in there, but not all at the same time. Boy that would have been cool.

    • @williambarnes5023
      @williambarnes5023 3 года назад +18

      Security is demanding. Sure, a lot of time the brig is empty and nothing's going on and you can just read or whatever from your console. But when you do have someone in there, you have to actually pay attention. It is HARD to continuously pay sincere alert attention to something for an entire shift. And you have to do it because the moment you look away or get bored, the prisoners start fiddling with the wall panels to try to get at the mechanisms. And then you have to explain to Picard how the alien went from being in the brig to chewing on the ambassador. Sorry, Captain, I was playing Bejeweled and didn't notice him tampering with the module.

    • @radioflyer68911
      @radioflyer68911 3 года назад +3

      William Barnes : It was either this or Waste Extraction.

    • @OP-1000
      @OP-1000 3 года назад +19

      When we actually díd get prisoners, we used to make bets as to how soon commander Data would show up and piss them off.

  • @j.p.9522
    @j.p.9522 4 года назад +289

    I love both interpretations of Fajo, but Saul Rubinek really knocked it out of the park.

    • @CourtneyCoulson
      @CourtneyCoulson 4 года назад +32

      Yeah I think the original actor was way over the top, I appreciate Saul's subtlety.

    • @NitpickingNerd
      @NitpickingNerd 4 года назад +39

      he added some comedy to the role . which fits the idea of an eccentric rich collector anyway

    • @evrbody
      @evrbody 4 года назад +18

      He lost his possessions AND he lost Daphne Moon. You could call him Mr. Chump.

    • @Mykol225
      @Mykol225 4 года назад +1

      I treated you like a son! You stabbed me in the heart!

    • @juresaiyan
      @juresaiyan 4 года назад +6

      Rubinek deserved an award for his performance

  • @Parasmunt
    @Parasmunt Год назад +27

    The actor who plays Fajo did a splendid job. One of the most memorable 1 episode characters from the show.

  • @stevenspenneberg7407
    @stevenspenneberg7407 3 года назад +122

    Visiting himself in the jail doing a country accent, is a wonderful way to end this! Nice editing.

    • @Augoeides32
      @Augoeides32 3 года назад +23

      That's not editing, that was an actual episode. If I remember correctly, the Holodeck went haywire (again) and a bunch of the NPC actors on a western script were replaced with Data, along with his abilities. I think that was the episode where Worf's son convinced him to "relax" by joining in on their Holodeck program as the Sheriff of the town. It ends with Worf and "Evil Data" having a high noon shoot out. Data's visage also replaced the can can girl at the saloon, and "she" attempts to seduce him. It was a really silly, but fun episode.

    • @Augoeides32
      @Augoeides32 3 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/MhJRG9k9Klg/видео.html A trailer for the remaster of the episode.

    • @LordSesshomaru86
      @LordSesshomaru86 3 года назад +2

      Made him sound like Randy Quaid

    • @bonusbaby801
      @bonusbaby801 3 года назад +6

      Just a small sample of how incredible Brent Spiner is.

    • @obscure.reference
      @obscure.reference 2 года назад +2

      @@Augoeides32 the guy who made the video edited that clip into it, he wasn’t saying he edited the whole scene

  • @LaVictoireEstLaVie
    @LaVictoireEstLaVie 4 года назад +593

    I find the original (short) Fajo far more intimidating because of his voice!

    • @MajorGrin
      @MajorGrin  4 года назад +43

      I was just thinking they probably would have changed it in post-production to sound scarier , and was even tempted to do it myself for this video . I didn't do it yet but did add the same sound effects and music in the background as in the final scene

    • @MajorGrin
      @MajorGrin  4 года назад +57

      edit: I just tested it and he sounds a lot scarier after I deepened his voice . also sounds more alien . I'll do another edit of him later

    • @emagotis
      @emagotis 4 года назад +11

      @@MajorGrin where is the original scene to be found?

    • @cleanerben9636
      @cleanerben9636 4 года назад +33

      Never saw that scene before

    • @ens0246
      @ens0246 4 года назад +55

      There's some great elements in both performances. I think Rapport's performance shows the character as having a bit less restraint and is more expressive while Rubinek makes him more child like and unhinged.

  • @PASTRAMIKick
    @PASTRAMIKick 4 года назад +311

    oh my god, I just did some reading on the 2 Fajos, apparently the little Fajo's actor attempted suicide two days after they finished shooting the scene, I guess the producers tried to avoid the whole situation and recast him as well as reshot the Fajo scenes. The short Fajo actor did eventually commit suicide. Really grim story behind the recasting and reshooting of this episode.

    • @nikitazkolibri5560
      @nikitazkolibri5560 3 года назад +6

      read the Alpha memory, there's quite a bit of information on the subject...

    • @Mr_Flerb
      @Mr_Flerb 3 года назад +47

      It wasn’t that they tried to avoid anything, it was that he was in the hospital and couldn’t film the rest of his scenes.

    • @Deuteromis
      @Deuteromis 3 года назад +26

      Jesus! I just looked him up. It's Dave Rappaport, I thought he sounded familiar. I grew up watching him in various movies and shows. But honestly I'm not surprised since suicide rates are very high in the little people community.

    • @ronwade5433
      @ronwade5433 3 года назад +49

      @@Deuteromis As I understand dwarfism, by the time these folks get his age, due to parts of the body trying to grow to normal size while other body parts are small, they are in constant, severe pain. Herves Villaches spoke about this near the end of his life.

    • @ssl3546
      @ssl3546 3 года назад +1

      @@ronwade5433 they provide so much hilarity before then. "the candle which burns twice as bright burns half as long."

  • @alanlurie3578
    @alanlurie3578 3 года назад +57

    I’m sorry Rappaport died and the character of Fajo had to be recast, but you simply can’t go wrong with Saul Rubinek. He’s been turning in nothing but solid performances for decades (how he managed to do that even in that bizarre Bradbury Theater episode, I will never know). Rubinek’s Fajo was very fleshed out and three-dimensional, rather than just a typical “bad guy.”

    • @Dellaluna13
      @Dellaluna13 11 месяцев назад +1

      That Ray Bradbury episode is one of Sal Rubinek’s appearances I remember the most. Loved him in True Romance and Unforgiven too.

    • @alanlurie3578
      @alanlurie3578 11 месяцев назад

      @@Dellaluna13 Have you seen the series Hunters, with Al Pacino? Rubinek is in fine form there as well!

  • @slumbertrap6506
    @slumbertrap6506 4 года назад +212

    Data talks to General Grieves about his collection of light-sabers.

    • @sardonicspartan9343
      @sardonicspartan9343 4 года назад +9

      Still more accurate that STD or Picard.

    • @Dtitilator
      @Dtitilator 3 года назад +7

      Data - "Hello there."

    • @erikseidler793
      @erikseidler793 2 года назад +2

      All of your stolen possessions are being returned to their rightful owners, because Rey is force teleporting them.

    • @MorgorDre
      @MorgorDre 2 месяца назад +1

      A cyborg and an android who wants to ne human.
      That plot could work.

  • @christopherjones5446
    @christopherjones5446 4 года назад +158

    I know Trek fans like like their prosthetics and exotic “alien-ness” of their guest stars. I’m probably in the minority when I say that I’m a sucker for a great character actor just owning the main cast for 40 minutes or so, be it Matt Frewer in TNG’s A Matter Of Time, William Campbell as Trelane in TOS’
    The Squire Of Gothos, Michael Mackean as The Clown in VOY’s The Thaw, or Jeffrey Combs as...take your pick. Saul Rubinek rocked it as Fajo.

    • @HermanVonPetri
      @HermanVonPetri 4 года назад +18

      I agree entirely! Rubinek obviously had great fun delivering that character and it shows in his wonderfully sardonic delivery.
      While I would have surely liked David Rappaport as well, his performance in this short clip was simply by-the-book and predictable. Saul Rubinek made Fajo something more memorable I think.

    • @dariusgreysun
      @dariusgreysun 4 года назад +3

      @BASIL!!!!! The pumpin' Seagull Antideans. I remember how good the makeup/eyes/etc looked on them. Also the dog like Anticans and lizard like Selay.

    • @chadsknnr
      @chadsknnr 3 года назад +8

      ... or John de Lancie as Q?

    • @mohawk5010
      @mohawk5010 3 года назад +1

      BASIL!!!!! The pumpin' Seagull Mick Fleetwood as a fish head alien. Sort of a reverse-merman where the fish part is up top.

    • @zztopz7090
      @zztopz7090 3 года назад +2

      I totally agree. The original was so out of place for Trek and the dialogue for the replacement flowed better. Brent's delivery is better in the second one too.

  • @robertdelisi9473
    @robertdelisi9473 4 года назад +141

    A few of favorite episodes. Never seen the OG Fajo, I like it.

    • @BlazingOwnager
      @BlazingOwnager 4 года назад +22

      I like how much can change in virtually the same dialogue with different execution.

    • @KevinBenecke
      @KevinBenecke 4 года назад +1

      I haven't either. What episode is it I wonder. I thought I had every Star Trek episode ever made.

    • @TK-593
      @TK-593 4 года назад +1

      @@KevinBenecke S3E22 The Most Toys

    • @Aethgeir
      @Aethgeir 3 года назад +6

      He was recast because the actor attempted suicide around the time they were filming. Sadly he successfully committed suicide just two months later, 5 days before the episode first aired.

    • @mirozen_
      @mirozen_ 3 года назад +3

      @@Aethgeir Yes. David Rappaport. I always enjoyed his appearances in both movies and television. He was a good actor and it's sad that his depression led to his suicide. Actor Saul Rubinek (another excellent actor) was his replacement as Fajo. It's interesting to see these two versions compared. I have to admit I like them both.

  • @Scripture-Man
    @Scripture-Man 4 года назад +22

    Your videos are stunningly researched! You included 'prisons' no one else would have thought of! And, whoa, I had no idea Fajo was originally played by a different actor. With all due respect to the first actor, I'm really glad that Saul Rubinek was our final Fajo. His performance was stellar and really made the episode great!

    • @b.v.9864
      @b.v.9864 3 года назад +2

      The original actor killed himself in real life. All of the scenes where filmed with Saul.

  • @hewhowatchesthewatcher8711
    @hewhowatchesthewatcher8711 4 года назад +18

    4:13 Legend says that Prisoner Data is still waiting for his supper from Sheriff Data . . .

  • @NEMISES1701
    @NEMISES1701 4 года назад +48

    now i really want to see the rest of this episode with the original Fajo

  • @spectrumthevideogame7167
    @spectrumthevideogame7167 3 года назад +15

    “It means you have achieved in disgrace what I have always aspired to be” such a great line!

  • @Kaptnkrnch
    @Kaptnkrnch 4 года назад +138

    WoW this is all new to me I had no idea there were two shoots, thank you so much for sharing.

    • @Mister__Jey
      @Mister__Jey 4 года назад +1

      Thank you

    • @dariusgreysun
      @dariusgreysun 4 года назад +1

      Me too

    • @b.v.9864
      @b.v.9864 3 года назад +2

      For the Kifas Fajo episode, the original actor (the little person) committed suicide in real life. So they recast the character and reshot all of the scenes with him in it.

    • @KraXoom
      @KraXoom 3 года назад +2

      @@b.v.9864 were his scenes not completed before filming was over or did they not show his parts out of some sort of respect? I gotta say his scene seemed a lot more powerfully delivered and I would have love to see the rest.

    • @omegastar19
      @omegastar19 2 года назад +1

      @@KraXoom no, they had only shot some of the scenes when he made a suicide attempt and was hospitalized, so they recast him. He ended his own life shortly afterwards, just before the episode was aired.

  • @famousdraven5443
    @famousdraven5443 Год назад +10

    I love how this descends into insanity with Data escorting Riker to the Brig, Riker screaming like a lunatic and Data variants seeing each other!

  • @RuinNationGaming
    @RuinNationGaming 4 года назад +311

    I never knew they had a original fajo I like him better

    • @cgbspender1113
      @cgbspender1113 4 года назад +81

      David Rappaport the poor man struggled with depression and during filming, Rappaport attempted suicide and was released to seek help. Unfortunately he killed himself on 2 May 1990.

    • @randomrazr
      @randomrazr 4 года назад +13

      @@cgbspender1113 he would beeen a good Tyrion

    • @RuinNationGaming
      @RuinNationGaming 4 года назад +6

      @@cgbspender1113 damn

    • @CalamityM
      @CalamityM 4 года назад +27

      @@cgbspender1113 Wasn't he in Time Bandits? Poor guy. He was a good actor.

    • @elih9700
      @elih9700 4 года назад +5

      @@CalamityM Love that film.

  • @chunkychuck
    @chunkychuck 4 года назад +92

    I never understood why there's so much junk on the wall in the brig

    • @MajorGrin
      @MajorGrin  4 года назад +53

      some of it seemed to be air conduits . other slots are probably for food , clothing or other items that need to be inserted in there safely . there's also a sink and I presume a toilet under it that can slide out with a small curtain for privacy

    • @shauljonah6955
      @shauljonah6955 4 года назад +2

      @@MajorGrin prisoners should never get pregnant privacy. Now where is the toilet paper?? 😁🤣😂🇨🇦🇺🇸✌👍🖖😱

    • @NitpickingNerd
      @NitpickingNerd 4 года назад +45

      @@shauljonah6955 there's no toilet paper there are 3 seashells

    • @MamaMOB
      @MamaMOB 4 года назад +11

      @@shauljonah6955 did you mean for the word pregnant to be in there?

    • @Nickelodeon81
      @Nickelodeon81 4 года назад +3

      Polystyrene

  • @butchmcqueen5625
    @butchmcqueen5625 3 года назад +20

    “I do not feel pleasure, I am only an Android.”
    -Google

  • @0megacron
    @0megacron 2 года назад +5

    The original Fajo seems more alien than the one we got. Not only his size, but that unique "reverb" in his voice as well.

  • @stevenpayne984
    @stevenpayne984 4 года назад +66

    Why is the guard sat with his back to the prisoner.....seems like a design fault to me.

    • @alexandermeyer5360
      @alexandermeyer5360 3 года назад +3

      It seems that there are usually two or three other security personnel facing the cell. But yeah, poor design of the room

    • @kilemeinocalvire9898
      @kilemeinocalvire9898 3 года назад +2

      At least the VOY brig fixed that

    • @ladiesgentswegothim
      @ladiesgentswegothim 2 года назад

      Facing away from potential threats, seems ... ill-conceived...

  • @c.d.w.3944
    @c.d.w.3944 4 года назад +5

    0:39 I love how obviously datas statement both blindsides Q and completely bewildered him.

  • @ShanerTheGrey
    @ShanerTheGrey 4 года назад +20

    Edit: ahh ok I just read the wiki this guy tried to kill himself two days after filming this so they replaced him. Just two weeks later he actually killed himself. Sucks man

  • @hugomarcel
    @hugomarcel 4 года назад +18

    Data goes from Lieutenant Commander to Commander between scenes

    • @Tabac-en-paris
      @Tabac-en-paris 3 года назад +2

      Yes... what’s the explanation there?

    • @myself387
      @myself387 2 года назад

      @@Tabac-en-paris he was promoted, or both Picard and Riker were unavailable

  • @angelastelladoda9749
    @angelastelladoda9749 3 года назад +14

    Another non-feeling: that warmth that Data "feels" deep in his "heart" when he meets someone imprisoned

  • @flashkraft
    @flashkraft 3 года назад +4

    1:04 He was playing solitaire when data walked in so he closed down the window.

  • @stevenspenneberg7407
    @stevenspenneberg7407 3 года назад +21

    The Little Actor from Time Bandits WASNT just acting sad and angry. He was. After they shot these scenes, they took off work for the weekend, and the Little Man took his own life in a park , now a dog park off of Mullholland Drive near Laurel canyon. I think of him every time I pass that park.

    • @TobiasHinz1992
      @TobiasHinz1992 3 года назад +2

      Wow, that is sad.

    • @KnightRaymund
      @KnightRaymund 3 года назад

      He attempted suicide during production but survived. A few months later he was sadly successful.

    • @utubepunk
      @utubepunk 3 года назад

      @@KnightRaymund oh shit! Never knew that.

    • @tammyt3434
      @tammyt3434 3 года назад +2

      I don't want to Like your comment because the subject matter isn't something to enjoy, but I do want to say I appreciate your commenting.

    • @SBaby
      @SBaby Год назад +2

      @@KnightRaymund There's alot more to the story too, if you look on Memory Alpha. From what I understand about little people, when they get older certain body parts start to grow past their size and without extensive and constant surgeries, they are often in continuous and severe pain (and even with the surgeries pain still often happens). This is one of several reasons why suicide rates are so high in their demographic.

  • @lennyernquist1246
    @lennyernquist1246 4 года назад +6

    I knew about the original actor that was cast to play Fajio but never realized there was any footage...thanks Major Grin.

    • @jamesrawlins735
      @jamesrawlins735 4 года назад

      They actually had shot the entire episode - then they decided to reshoot it with the new scenes

  • @K4n01
    @K4n01 3 года назад +3

    3:07 a random take of Anakin screaming "LIAR!" would've been hilarious.

  • @alanbishopman6681
    @alanbishopman6681 4 года назад +17

    Data : "All of your stolen possessions are being returned to their rightful owners..."
    The Supreme Being : "Return the Map! Return what you have stolen..."

    • @BlazingOwnager
      @BlazingOwnager 4 года назад +2

      "Who wants this original baseball card?" "Eh, it has no value. Throw it out the airlock."
      *** Sisko: There has been a great disturbance in the force.

    • @alanbishopman6681
      @alanbishopman6681 4 года назад +1

      @@BlazingOwnager Don't worry, the Noh-Jay consortium will get it for him!

  • @stevenDOTdanger
    @stevenDOTdanger 3 года назад +6

    I had never known there was another Fajo. And excellent compilation. Thank you.

  • @macklee6837
    @macklee6837 3 года назад +9

    Man, the level of writing in this compared to ST:D is leagues apart.
    I miss these characters 😔

  • @davidmace3310
    @davidmace3310 3 года назад +5

    Didn’t know that there were two different versions of Fajo until now. Fascinating.

  • @scambroselauntrellus3681
    @scambroselauntrellus3681 4 года назад +139

    I miss Star Trek. I wish they still made it.

    • @Mopsie
      @Mopsie 4 года назад +11

      Lol

    • @mrq1701
      @mrq1701 4 года назад +6

      Me too

    • @normanleach5427
      @normanleach5427 4 года назад +4

      2020. He's back...along with 7 of 9.

    • @hansmeyer7225
      @hansmeyer7225 3 года назад +15

      norman leach What are you talking about

    • @necromosspiritus
      @necromosspiritus 3 года назад +4

      @@hansmeyer7225 hes talking about the series picard

  • @warlockpaladin2261
    @warlockpaladin2261 8 месяцев назад +2

    I recently started watching Andromeda, and one of the opening texts in the first season was a statement about judging society by the way it treats its prisoners... which begs the question about Data's curiosity for the thoughts of prisoners.

  • @patrickmurray3846
    @patrickmurray3846 2 года назад +4

    Riker: Data you know he was joking right?
    Inside Data's Mind: Yes I know he was joking, so am I.

  • @marksmith6785
    @marksmith6785 4 года назад +5

    I fell into the rabbit hole of what happened. I always figured he went back to British television, never questioned why he disappeared.

  • @RUBBER_BULLET
    @RUBBER_BULLET 4 года назад +4

    "You could be a gloater, come to gloat over the condemned man. We're up to our ears in gloaters, 'can I come in for a gloat' they shout. Oh, you heartless gloaters!"

  • @hundwyn7530
    @hundwyn7530 4 года назад +8

    OG fajo actually tried to play his role

  • @xevious2501
    @xevious2501 2 года назад +5

    ya know... looking at these episodes now really reminds us of QUALITY scifi story telling. more over.. something even way WAY more amazing is when you consider the acting. We tend to forget that these actors ARE indeed acting on a set. Their is no background score playing during their performance, no sounds no bleeps no computer noises, no sounds of the enterprise no phasers nothing. No vfx, no cgi. no displays. They are collectively acting in an environment that does not fully exist and will only later be built around them in Post and editing.

  • @HeathInClearLake
    @HeathInClearLake 2 года назад +4

    Never knew about an angry little dwarven-elf D&D hybrid being Fajo.

  • @numbers9to0
    @numbers9to0 4 года назад +4

    The guards: Ah, ok, it's just Data, he is bored, again, and is killing time by talking to prisoners.

  • @Kousaburo
    @Kousaburo 3 года назад +4

    The brig security officer must be like: "Yay! I've got something to do!"

    • @Psiros
      @Psiros 3 года назад +1

      If it's anything like today's military, he is taking correspondence courses and getting his degree online. :)

  • @Pakicetus_
    @Pakicetus_ 3 года назад +3

    -Captain, Permission to observe the interrogation
    -NO
    lmao

  • @danmanx2
    @danmanx2 4 года назад +19

    I think Major Grin's original edit with the brig guard playing Doom needs to be put back in!

    • @MajorGrin
      @MajorGrin  4 года назад +12

      they had the same guard extra in the original version but he didn't react the same when Data entered . the way he pulled back in the final version seemed as if he was caught doing something wrong on his computer that's why I added him playing doom while on guard duty

    • @j.p.9522
      @j.p.9522 4 года назад +1

      Where can we find this?

    • @2bituser569
      @2bituser569 4 года назад +1

      Major Grin
      Nah he was playing Galaga (Avengers: Ironman).

  • @Shazam961
    @Shazam961 3 года назад +3

    Data has three pips on his uniform in the original footage of the episode, " The Most Toys " with the late David Rappaport.

  • @bcast9978
    @bcast9978 3 года назад +7

    Why was Data a full Commander in the scrapped Fajo episode?

  • @newlycelebrities5956
    @newlycelebrities5956 4 года назад +4

    1:18 I didn't know there was an alternate plan

  • @colonelburton8451
    @colonelburton8451 4 года назад +130

    What's the deal with the short Kivas Fajo version, I've never seen this? It was much more original and authentic.

    • @MajorGrin
      @MajorGrin  4 года назад +51

      that was the original actor for Fajo memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Kivas_Fajo

    • @skyserf
      @skyserf 4 года назад +60

      Major Grin Whoa, didn’t realize that. I was thinking, Major Grin really stepped up his editing game...again.
      Sad story 😕 with the original actor.

    • @BigGator5
      @BigGator5 4 года назад +51

      David Rappaport killed himself during filming. This is why they brought in Saul Rubinek at the last minute.

    • @NearlyH3adlessNick
      @NearlyH3adlessNick 4 года назад +26

      @Whitefall to be apart of something that has lasted so long, but not see it because you are in the moment, and then throw it all away in a moment of brutal sadness....
      What a world... man, this place sucks sometimes.

    • @TimThomason
      @TimThomason 4 года назад +23

      @@BigGator5 He attempted to kill himself during filming, because of bouts with depression. So they recast him while he (supposedly) sought treatment. He succeeded in killing himself about a month later, five days before the episode was to premiere, after Saul Rubinek had taken over the role and they finished production.

  • @johnnyfavorite1194
    @johnnyfavorite1194 4 года назад +12

    Data needs a Goldfish.

  • @VOYENTTOS
    @VOYENTTOS 2 года назад

    I just didn't know there was another version. Thanks a lot for showing!

  • @Numenorean921
    @Numenorean921 3 года назад +10

    just looked up why the original Fajo was replaced, he attempted suicide during filming and then actually killed himself 2 months later.

    • @jeffreytan2948
      @jeffreytan2948 3 года назад

      Can't remember which was the original? Was it the midget?

    • @Numenorean921
      @Numenorean921 3 года назад

      @@jeffreytan2948 the midget

    • @lumendelsol
      @lumendelsol 3 года назад

      Why not replace Robin Williams in ALL his movies then?

    • @Numenorean921
      @Numenorean921 3 года назад +1

      @@lumendelsol as far as I know robin williams didn't attempt suicide during the filming of any of his movies

  • @publiusvelocitor4668
    @publiusvelocitor4668 3 года назад +7

    Riker screamed that he wasn't crazy, yet Data acted like he didn't even hear him. Sometimes you have to scream it louder, so people will understand.

    • @SBaby
      @SBaby Год назад

      To be fair, that wasn't really Data.

  • @-yeme-
    @-yeme- 3 года назад +1

    3:42 ha i love the "jokey" music they play at moments like that to let you know youre supposed to be laughing

  • @boedye
    @boedye 4 года назад +33

    I never knew there was an original Fajo. Whats the story with that ep?

    • @mikcnmvedmsfonoteka
      @mikcnmvedmsfonoteka 4 года назад +18

      Original Fajo actor commited suicide

    • @Jmaul85
      @Jmaul85 4 года назад +10

      Well.... Damn!!!

    • @JohnRedshaw
      @JohnRedshaw 4 года назад +10

      He attempted suicide during the episode production. That's why the second Fajo never felt right to me. His performance was lacking probably because it was quickly thrown together.

    • @The_Notorious_N.O.E.
      @The_Notorious_N.O.E. 4 года назад

      Which one is the original?

    • @jamiebraswell5520
      @jamiebraswell5520 4 года назад +5

      @@The_Notorious_N.O.E. the human guy is real...or what aired on TV. I never knew anything about the short little impish alien.

  • @craigsavarese8631
    @craigsavarese8631 2 года назад +5

    Although it is somewhat similar, I really wish Brent Spiner would have used his Bob Wheeler (Nightcourt) voice in the Western episode.

  • @ShoRyuBarbie
    @ShoRyuBarbie 4 года назад +9

    I knew I recognised that original Fajo. It's Ftumch, the little demon from The Young Ones!

  • @svsguru2000
    @svsguru2000 4 года назад +2

    What better way to learn about evil first-hand than from the safety behind a forcefield.

  • @equarg
    @equarg 3 года назад +4

    I realized growing up these “prison cells” missed one vital component.
    A freaking toilet.
    In the future do we not need to go to the bathroom?
    🤔. Welp in one episode they did have one bathroom problem....

    • @dmtaylo1
      @dmtaylo1 3 года назад +1

      Maybe they just beam it out.

    • @MagicAl5F4781
      @MagicAl5F4781 3 года назад

      In the brig scene of Star Trek V: The Final Frontier, the seat that pops out of the wall when Kirk sits down is the toilet.

  • @cytherians
    @cytherians 7 месяцев назад +2

    So great to see the interleaving of the two different Fajo portrayals. Saul Rubinek did a great job. But I so would have enjoyed seeing David Rappaport portraying Fajo for the whole episode. He was terrific in Time Bandits, really carried the movie. So tragic that he took his own life. If only he could've gotten the help he needed.

    • @hubbsllc
      @hubbsllc 6 месяцев назад +1

      I would have been very interested in how that Fajo would have been played. Quite threatening here in a way Rubinek’s Fajo was not. Seems they adjusted the script as well as Spiner’s eyeline.

  • @lesigh1749
    @lesigh1749 3 года назад +1

    At 1:58 it seems Data finally got promoted to full commander.

  • @Chaosfox04
    @Chaosfox04 4 года назад +4

    Why have I never noticed that Data met so many people in the brig?

  • @LadyJoolree
    @LadyJoolree 3 года назад +4

    I loved the Fajo character, to this day I quote one of his lines in real life. Whenever someone whines about something I’m asking them to do I give them a choice and say, “Well, decide whichever option you dislike the least.” Works almost every time!

    • @tablescissors67
      @tablescissors67 Год назад

      I quoted him my whole life too, just a different line, and for the same reason for the feeling it evoked and sometimes felt applicable in real life.

  • @markplows2198
    @markplows2198 4 года назад +3

    Force field for the brig seem like a really bad idea. Any disruption to the power systems and your prisoners are set free. Good old fashioned bars work well and don't need power. If you need a continuous barrier at least have bars or in addition to force fields.

    • @ritcusreyni
      @ritcusreyni 4 года назад +1

      On one hand, force fields can restrain non-humanoid life forms that could slip through traditional metal bars.
      Yet, I get your point. There's no fail safe in the event of a power failure, making escape virtually guaranteed.
      In reality, a sealed room with 4 walls and force field encasing it would probably be the most effective and logical but for TV drama purposes an invisible force field lends to more dramatic storytelling.

  • @AmalgmousProxy
    @AmalgmousProxy 4 года назад

    I had no idea. Found this online: David Rappaport, a well-known British dwarf actor, had originally been cast for the part of Kivas Fajo. Rappaport struggled with depression during his life, and attempted suicide shortly after filming some scenes as Fajo. Rappaport later died by suicide on 2 May 1990, three days before the airing of this episode. Saul Rubinek was brought in to take over the role and complete the episode. Select scenes with Rappaport were included in a special In Memoriam reel on disc five of the third-season TNG Blu-ray set.

  • @Johnny-rx4hs
    @Johnny-rx4hs 4 года назад +7

    The actor playing the original Fajo was in Time Bandits right? David Rappaport?

    • @QuarrellaDeVil
      @QuarrellaDeVil 4 года назад

      Yes, as Randall, the leader.

    • @Deegee_1969
      @Deegee_1969 3 года назад

      @Upsidedown Toilet And he was "Shirley" in the 'Young Ones' episode, "Flood".

  • @erikseidler793
    @erikseidler793 4 года назад +10

    The short actor was so much better. Very alien, very Shakespearean, Saul Rubinek came off like a sitcom character.

    • @bootblacking
      @bootblacking 3 года назад

      Replacing an actor with little time to spare for filming didn't give the production team a lot of options. I think the replacement is fine, but yes, I would have preferred to see the episode completed with Rappaport. Sadly, he struggled with depression and attempted suicide during production, leaving the episode incomplete.

  • @garysmith2450
    @garysmith2450 2 года назад +4

    David Rappaport RIP. So sad to think he ended everything just a day or so after those scenes were shot. He should still be alive today. The human mind is so fragile and these things are not spoken enough half as much as they should.

    • @Chud_Bud
      @Chud_Bud 27 дней назад

      What are you talking about? Mental illness is talked about near-nonstop.

    • @garysmith2450
      @garysmith2450 27 дней назад

      @@Chud_Bud suicide is THE leading cause of death for males under the age of 50. It’s obviously not talked about enough or in the correct way.

  • @EpicBenjo
    @EpicBenjo Год назад +1

    My favourite part was when Data looked to his left to see Data walk in

  • @tomrenjie
    @tomrenjie Год назад +1

    I love the "only an android" quip. Data may not have emotion but there's definitely a gloat/troll subroutine somewhere in there

    • @Elly3981
      @Elly3981 9 месяцев назад

      I think Data did that on purpose. He actually does have emotions but simply couldn't recognize them for what they were until he got his emotion chip. He was also made to be much more mellow and reserved than his brother, Lore.

  • @Raycheetah
    @Raycheetah 4 года назад +11

    "I don't feel pleasure. I am *only* an android." Interesting use of the word "only." It lends meaning to that statement which would be absent had "only" been omitted from that sentence. ='[.]'=

    • @MyoclonicJerkCough
      @MyoclonicJerkCough 3 года назад +5

      the "only" makes it sounds like Data is intentionally referencing Fajo's low opinion of androids as people to drive the irony home, which IMO is more human

  • @Laffy-ix5xy
    @Laffy-ix5xy Год назад +5

    One thing I noticed in the scenes with the different Fajos is that Data has three pips in the original scenes. He should only have two. Maybe Data was going to be promoted, then the writers changed their minds.

    • @stargazerastro
      @stargazerastro Год назад +1

      It rather was a mistake…

    • @Adam_Boots
      @Adam_Boots Год назад

      Data always had 3 pips. Two full and one half. They just used they wrong pip by mistake.

  • @jongilbertson2106
    @jongilbertson2106 Месяц назад +1

    Saul Rubinek is a great actor. I like him in all his roles: Unforgiven, Fraiser, STNG.

  • @2bituser569
    @2bituser569 4 года назад +8

    Always love ❤️ seeing Q in the brig

  • @michaellee2387
    @michaellee2387 4 года назад +4

    Hey, the OG Fajo looks and sounds like Randall, leader of the Time Bandits gang.

    • @whos-the-stiff
      @whos-the-stiff 4 года назад +3

      Same actor, he was also in a funny episode of The Young Ones.

    • @QuarrellaDeVil
      @QuarrellaDeVil 4 года назад +1

      Would've been funny if an item in Fajo's collection was a bit of the concentrated Evil that remained after the Supreme Being did his work on him.

  • @DaxVJacobson
    @DaxVJacobson 4 года назад +7

    I know of the story from Robert Myers Burnett, but there is a weird other reality vibe to this one segment, I never went looking for this footage, it's too bad he was not ultimately in the aired episode.

  • @Pantechnicon
    @Pantechnicon 3 года назад +1

    Nice compilation. I have a theory that the Federation has always had a secret loathing of artificial intelligence, so it seems only fair that Data doesn’t seem to mind seeing meatware locked up whenever he can.

  • @jackgibsxxx0750
    @jackgibsxxx0750 Год назад

    @ 1:03 when Data walks into the brig that tech sets back like he was playing games on the LCARS.

  • @illustriouschin
    @illustriouschin 4 года назад +11

    The original Fajo was a good actor, he got robbed.

    • @KlingonCaptain
      @KlingonCaptain 4 года назад +2

      Actually he died. They replaced him because he was dead and couldn't finish the episode. It was quite sad and tragic.

    • @MrPAULONEAL
      @MrPAULONEAL 4 года назад +2

      You could say he got shortchanged...

    • @AroAceGamer
      @AroAceGamer 3 года назад +2

      @@KlingonCaptain It was even more tragic as he committed suicide...

  • @brianjlevine
    @brianjlevine 4 года назад +7

    I've always liked that Data actually tried to kill Fajo. Showed a human side to him. And I love how Data mocks Fajo with his "I'm only an android." line.

    • @brianjlevine
      @brianjlevine 4 года назад +1

      @JRPGFan20000 Data absolutely "felt" rage against Fajo when he fired the weapon at him. Why else would he lie to Riker about it?
      ruclips.net/video/38HNSl0Xar8/видео.html

    • @WileECoyote0001
      @WileECoyote0001 3 года назад +1

      @@brianjlevine If he felt it, he would have no context to understand it or name it. Ultimately his actions could be explained as the logical conclusion for the situation. Which In a way is even more disturbing under the ideals of TNG.

    • @tablescissors67
      @tablescissors67 Год назад

      Data was delightfully disturbing in this episode. I never met anyone who "got" it and I was totally unnerved.

    • @brianjlevine
      @brianjlevine Год назад +1

      @@tablescissors67 then he lies to Riker about the phaser fire. Great episode.

  • @prashank
    @prashank Год назад +2

    This has no context and I absolutely loved it.

  • @VersinKettorix
    @VersinKettorix 2 года назад +2

    1:09 The prisoners are rapidly shrinking. Better check the polarity on that holding cell.

  • @BigGator5
    @BigGator5 4 года назад +9

    Nothing against David Rappaport, but I like Saul Rubinek's Fajo better. Rubinek's Fajo has the charisma more in line with an evil manipulative trader. We would never know what Rappaport's Fajo would fully be like, but he seems angrier and extremely unstable. Maybe that was Rappaport's depression coming through, who knows.
    This just goes to show that two different actors can interpret a character very differently. Casting is very important.

    • @bazzatheblue
      @bazzatheblue 4 года назад +1

      Rappaport cant have been around much longer after this .Seems a long time.

    • @BigGator5
      @BigGator5 4 года назад +2

      Rappaport killed himself during filming, in case you didn't know.

    • @bazzatheblue
      @bazzatheblue 4 года назад +2

      @@BigGator5 yes I just checked wikipedia. Sad David died so young ,he was a good character actor.

    • @Lumibear.
      @Lumibear. 4 года назад

      I agree, Rappaport’s death was a sad tragedy, but I don’t feel he was as good in this role as Saul, he just doesn’t feel as natural in the part, but yes maybe that was the depression, I’ve seen him do so much better, he kills it in the Time Bandits as Randall.

  • @thanhavictus
    @thanhavictus 4 года назад +3

    Wait was there a remake of that scene with him talking to the collector?

    • @DogSerious
      @DogSerious 3 года назад

      No, it's just called lazy writing!

  • @vince7735
    @vince7735 3 года назад

    Nice comparison. Well done!

  • @SR71ABCD
    @SR71ABCD Год назад +1

    3:44 I knew that was coming, Riker going mad XD