Yeah I tried to explain this concept to my wife. I’m married but I’m also a bachelor. These are two distinct thing but both have the same essence that is me. The oneness and the diversity of my identity is united by my essence. She didn’t buy it… now I’m a divorced, married bachelor united by my essence but also three distinct things.
@@lightbeforethetunnel Listen to the last 5 min of the “conversion” and tell me did Darth let Big expand on his answer or did Darth over talk, interrupt and prevent big from speaking.
@@lightbeforethetunnel you're a braindead bootlicker without evidence for your dogshit worldview. Darth cannot debate without being a mod or having a bootlicker like you mod for him. He's a lolcow, that's it. Nothing more :)
It was so obvious that Darth had no response to anything being said , he had to save face and therefore had to remove his opponent . It’s a recurring theme with Darth.
Darth is absolutely terrified of atheists. As soon as they make a cogent point that rebuts his nonsense he shuts them down stating that they are bickering, trolling etc
Darth knows how weak his presup game is, it’s just so he can have this dumb little cult of TonLoc Derek Lee Enlightenone OneWay etc clamoring over him all day.
I don't really think he is terrified of atheist or any particular group of people. He is actually terrified when he encounters those who happen to be quick thinkers and exceptionally articulate. He only cares about the dominating part.
as he should be, his time is rapidly coming and he still didn't convince himself that 1 god exists, nor that 2 he dominates anybody. Both these core pillars of his fragile illusion of own sanity are about to die with him. Soon.
@@mumsie-uk2it that was literally the first darth video i heard! It sent me down a rabbit hole of batshit crazy narcissist trainwreck arguments from darth. Fascinating
It's pretty much a win against Darth when he stops addressing the argument and switches to his ultimate, fundamental foundation routine. In typical presup. fashion it's just a device to shut down the interlocuter and avoid having to counter their objection any further.
It's fascinating watching cluster b personality folks start flailing around the second they feel a loss of control. If he can't control and dominate someone in his orbit, he panics and has to get rid of them immediately. What a devastating illness NPD is.
What I don't understand is that Darth clearly finds these exchanges incredibly frustrating, has no real talent or ability at it and loses almost every interaction. So why does he do it? If he finds it all so awful and upsetting - why is he there?
Go watch a lot of Dr Ramani videos on youtube. She is a psychologist who specializes in narcissistic personality disorder. So much of what darth does will be explained.
“Then you don’t believe in god!” *throws hands up in the air, leans back, smiles smugly* Congrats DD, you’ve realized the basics of your opponents view.
Pinecreek is right presuppositionalism is designed to "close the mouth" of the non believer and not to have a discussion or let him speak. This is a perfect example. Hear no evil.
It’s not really darth’s fault. The problem is that Christianity is incomprehensibly stupid and it would take a very intelligent and probably dishonest person to argue for it coherently.
I think what a lot of people are wondering is: If it's so obvious that Theism (Christianity, specifically) is false, then why can't Atheists: 1. Provide any rational arguments against it, or 2. Provide any rational reasons for why an Atheist worldview is true instead.
Generally, we mainly just see ad hominem attacks and other logical fallacies from Atheists who seem to think those fallacies are actually knock-down arguments when they aren't.
@@lightbeforethetunnel there’s plenty of rational arguments against Christianity, problem is that Christians never want to defend Christianity anymore but resort to arguing for a vague deistic god. Christians like darth realise Christianity is incoherent and indefensible, hence why they never want to talk about Christianity
@@lightbeforethetunnel I think my comment may have been censored by RUclips but the gist of it was that Christians never want to defend Yahweh but resort to arguing in favour of a deistic god. It’s been years since I’ve seen a Christian even attempt to defend Christianity without the ability to talk over or mute the other person Never mind I see it now haha. Sorry mate
Well, to be fair, Darth is claiming that to use logic you can only do so iff the Christian God(s) exist. So when logic is used to show a contradiction in the claimed nature of God, he’ll always either run to the “analogous” argument (the God of the gaps in analogies argument I call it) or he goes into the well, if you’re using logic then God must exist nonsense.
@@davids11131113 Yet somehow we have the burden to prove the non-existence of this illogical, unobservable, unquantifiable being (who doesn’t exist in any realm).
I’ve never understood how 3 persons can share one being when god doesn’t have a body… or a spacial location of any kind. What exactly is the being they are sharing?
Why is Darth so afraid to hear the arguments of the individual that he talks with? All he does is talk at the individual while running out the clock. Trying to have a conversation and make points in said conversation is NOT bickering.
This "3 in 1" BS contradicts the entire sacrifice of Jesus on the cross. How can you sacrifice yourself to yourself for the issues yourself created and it still be sacrificial?
8:38 The defeater for god will either: Be the ultimate and the absolute or Be derived from the ultimate and the absolute. P1 - I have X, the ultimate absolute P2 - The laws of logic are derived from X P3 - the laws of logic preclude the existence of god P4 - god does not exist.
I've never heard a good description of the trinity, besides it's just a rip off of earlier trinitarian ideas, like the father, mother, and child. Much like everything else in the bible, the idea came from somewhere else.
A comprehensive failure for poor DD, as he's trying to explain something he doesn't understand, and he doesn't understand it because it's incoherent. The only way out of this quagmire is the all too familiar boot-and-cope.
just so it's clear to everybody. every time this buffoon starts to argue whether you are able to use logic, asking questions like what -what is the source that makes logic ,logic- or what makes logic logical or any other sort of nonsense, he has already decided that you are a threat and need to be kicked out as soon as possible before you expose his idiocy.
Ok. So Darth admits he cannot fully understand his god. But if we do not accept his God’s revelation, that’s their problem😂 You can’t make this shit up. Well….maybe you can🤷🏻♂️
That one thing is three things and the unity of being one thing as well as the diversity of being three things in one is so simple, if you don't understand that - you can't even use logic!!!!!......... . apparently.
I would love to interview the people that he cut off and kicked so I can hear there argument. All we get is Darth crying at the end and claiming victory.
Every time Gary asks something about god, as an atheist I must answer “god doesn’t exist”. Is god a trinity?: No because god doesn’t exist. Is god non contingent?: No, because god doesn’t exist. Is morality derived from the mind of god? No, because god doesn’t exist. Did Harry Potter defeat Voldemort? No because Harry doesn’t exist. And so on.
You should answer questions about God like how you answer questions about star wars. There are things that are cannot and things that are not cannon. Darth really doesn't know why things are cannon in religion. He is the worst fan boy ever.
There’s no point in continuing to listen to ding dong after he boots someone as all you get from then on is ding dong straw manning the person he just forcibly silenced.
12:50 You're the one who sounds cornered Gary. This is what you do. You go into accusation mode, you start accusing people of being trolls, of bickering, of being liars, of being scumbags, anything to deflect from the fact that you've lost yet another argument.
Dodge Dawkins over talked Big constantly and wouldn’t let him get a word in. But even with the little Dodge Dawkins allowed Big to talk , it was enough for Big to serve Dodge Dawkins ass on a plate and hand it right to him As a last resort Dodge Dawkins had to find any excuse to end the conversation. Fortunately there was enough for any honest person to see exactly what was going on. This was a terrible performance by Dodge Dawkins and everyone who watches it knows he got beat down big time
This is what they do , when they lose the argument you go back to the TAG script and then say everything comes from God and you don't believe therefore you can't use logic.
Transitive property of identity is how I've been demonstrating the self contradiction in the trinity for years and it made my day to see darth implode against it.
3 co equal distinctions … like a triangle? Darths God is one thing that’s carved up by use of abstractions like pointing to a triangle and then pointing to its sides
I understand the Why Darth doesn't do debates 🙂, actually listening and addressing the other person's questions and/or points, is something out of his league. Although, it would be funny, a moderated debate (he did at least one at Mdd) the funniest one I thought of right now, would be: Topic - Do we have any good reasons to think the gospels (and/or the letters of Paul) are the revelation of any God? Debators - Darth Dawkins vs Richard Carrier. 🙂
I've heard more than my share of these stupid exchanges, but this might be the most egregious example of Gary forcibly shutting down an opponent, lest they succeed in voicing even a single, coherent argument. He's absolutely terrified of this guy, and cannot, will not allow him to say his piece under any conditions. How completely infantile of him.
"Logic is an axiom" "Logic is an axiom" "Logic is an axiom" ... some people just don't have the ability to question their presuppositions. They can't think about thinking.
“Overtalk me one more time.”
“You overtalked me as I was-“
“Okay goodbye”
He was so desperate to justify pulling that eject handle.
Yeah I tried to explain this concept to my wife. I’m married but I’m also a bachelor. These are two distinct thing but both have the same essence that is me. The oneness and the diversity of my identity is united by my essence. She didn’t buy it… now I’m a divorced, married bachelor united by my essence but also three distinct things.
Ahahahaha you nailed it
"3 persons in 1 Being."
Classical description of multiple personality disorder.
Hmmmm. I see what Darth is saying as a 3-headed hydra.....
Christans are supposed not to know, what god actually is. But they keep describing, what he is.
3 penguins in 1 trenchcoat
I have been waiting for the appropriate response to my "3-headed hydra" post. That response should have been "well, that explains Hail Hydra".
@@michaelfredgren1342 "Hail Hydra!"... 🤫
I don't know how God can be independent of the laws of logic, when he can't violate the law of identity.
The concept of God is full of self contradictions and paradoxes .
Here’s the crazy thing, Darth counts this as a win because he didn’t allow the unbeliever to argue from his own ground.
He wasn't answering the question. "Logic is an axiom" does not have any logical coherence to the question asked, yet he kept repeating it.
@@lightbeforethetunnel Listen to the last 5 min of the “conversion” and tell me did Darth let Big expand on his answer or did Darth over talk, interrupt and prevent big from speaking.
@@lightbeforethetunnel you're a braindead bootlicker without evidence for your dogshit worldview. Darth cannot debate without being a mod or having a bootlicker like you mod for him. He's a lolcow, that's it. Nothing more :)
@@lightbeforethetunnel hopefully at the end of that tunnel is a wall that you run into at high speed. You " meeting god" is best for humans. Reject
It was so obvious that Darth had no response to anything being said , he had to save face and therefore had to remove his opponent . It’s a recurring theme with Darth.
Darth is absolutely terrified of atheists. As soon as they make a cogent point that rebuts his nonsense he shuts them down stating that they are bickering, trolling etc
Darth knows how weak his presup game is, it’s just so he can have this dumb little cult of TonLoc Derek Lee Enlightenone OneWay etc clamoring over him all day.
I don't really think he is terrified of atheist or any particular group of people.
He is actually terrified when he encounters those who happen to be quick thinkers and exceptionally articulate.
He only cares about the dominating part.
@@joshriver75 And the not looking stupid part.
@@frederickfairlieesq5316 Well he’s been failing hard on that part for years.
I like TAG, which he's a proponent of. Do you mean there are cogent points that rebut TAG? And if so could you provide a couple for me to consider?
He’s absolutely terrified. Full on panic lol
as he should be, his time is rapidly coming and he still didn't convince himself that 1 god exists, nor that 2 he dominates anybody.
Both these core pillars of his fragile illusion of own sanity are about to die with him. Soon.
Another great example of the double standard Darth argues by. He will cut you off constantly but if you interrupt him, you're terrible.
Anytime Darth is cornered he falls back to “You can’t use logic to prove me wrong, because God”
This is what Darth does. Monologues. Over-talks. Bickers. Dodges. Kicks. Blocks. Such a brave soul he is.
"Words have a range of meaning."
Now, watch how fast this is forgotten when said to him
Particularly with the word "atheist"
Right, while ‘atheist’ only has 1 specific meaning in ‘western English speaking world’
I'll never forget Darth losing it over someone asking him to define 'set'.
@@mumsie-uk2it that was literally the first darth video i heard! It sent me down a rabbit hole of batshit crazy narcissist trainwreck arguments from darth. Fascinating
@@jeremydunbar8985 haha. "YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT A SSSSET IS?!!!!!!
"Weak" trinity game? Sounds like he has no trinity game whatsoever.
It's so obvious Darth is cornered, well it happens every time
Darth can argue at a primary school level, at best.
I disagree. Plenty of primary school age children can participate in a debate without throwing a tantrum and rage quitting.
@@parsivalshorse Very true, perhaps that was an unfair analogy on my part.
1:03. You can tell Darth doesn’t understand the question and avoids it by not answering and then over talking.
It's pretty much a win against Darth when he stops addressing the argument and switches to his ultimate, fundamental foundation routine. In typical presup. fashion it's just a device to shut down the interlocuter and avoid having to counter their objection any further.
Darth has become a parody of the previously existing parody that was Darth.
Darth was interrupting incessantly the whole time. Then when he gets interrupted ONCE it's a problem LOL
Its what happens to a person who thinks that they have god on their side.
@@DaveZee823 nah I just think it's cause he's a narcissistic imo
@@Daren6111 being told that you are special, that Morality itself is on your side, creates a massive ego problem in a lot of people.
It's fascinating watching cluster b personality folks start flailing around the second they feel a loss of control. If he can't control and dominate someone in his orbit, he panics and has to get rid of them immediately. What a devastating illness NPD is.
What I don't understand is that Darth clearly finds these exchanges incredibly frustrating, has no real talent or ability at it and loses almost every interaction. So why does he do it? If he finds it all so awful and upsetting - why is he there?
Narcissistic need for attention. It doesn’t matter if it’s bad attention. He wants it however he can get it.
@@rhm54 Sure. I guess it would make more sense to me if he were good at it - or at least good enough to convince himself that he has ability.
Go watch a lot of Dr Ramani videos on youtube. She is a psychologist who specializes in narcissistic personality disorder. So much of what darth does will be explained.
@@jeremydunbar8985 Interesting. Thanks for that Jeremy, will do.
Also godless girl has a video on narcism that’s very telling and fits dd to a tie.
Wow, the mental and verbal knots that must be tied to hold it all together is stunning.
“Then you don’t believe in god!” *throws hands up in the air, leans back, smiles smugly*
Congrats DD, you’ve realized the basics of your opponents view.
Pulled the rip cord right about when his script ran out and he was getting exposed as a gibberish generator, predictable as ever
Always comical to me picturing Darth pulling the eject handle BAIL BAIL! 😆
12:35 even his sycophants know Darth needs to end the conversation asap, so they quickly throw him mod powers.
Good catch. "Bickering" is Darth's safe word.
So Darth's "omnipotent" god is incapable of explaining it's nature to us? That doesn't sound like omnipotence.......
Pinecreek is right presuppositionalism is designed to "close the mouth" of the non believer and not to have a discussion or let him speak. This is a perfect example. Hear no evil.
Basically 🙈🙉🙊.
So (supposedly) when Jebus was on the cross the said "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?" he was talking to himself?
So dishonest when darth runs to "if u reject or deny"
It’s not really darth’s fault. The problem is that Christianity is incomprehensibly stupid and it would take a very intelligent and probably dishonest person to argue for it coherently.
Sadly, Darth think he only needs one of the two requirements to coherently argue Christianity… possibly because Darth is not particularly smart…
I think what a lot of people are wondering is: If it's so obvious that Theism (Christianity, specifically) is false, then why can't Atheists:
1. Provide any rational arguments against it, or
2. Provide any rational reasons for why an Atheist worldview is true instead.
Generally, we mainly just see ad hominem attacks and other logical fallacies from Atheists who seem to think those fallacies are actually knock-down arguments when they aren't.
@@lightbeforethetunnel there’s plenty of rational arguments against Christianity, problem is that Christians never want to defend Christianity anymore but resort to arguing for a vague deistic god. Christians like darth realise Christianity is incoherent and indefensible, hence why they never want to talk about Christianity
@@lightbeforethetunnel I think my comment may have been censored by RUclips but the gist of it was that Christians never want to defend Yahweh but resort to arguing in favour of a deistic god. It’s been years since I’ve seen a Christian even attempt to defend Christianity without the ability to talk over or mute the other person
Never mind I see it now haha. Sorry mate
The situation really is dire when you’re trying your hardest to explicitly kick logic out of the conversation. I mean, that can only end well right? 😂
It’s funny how Darth is more than happy to engage in discussions using logic until he gets cornered, then suddenly logic doesn’t work for god anymore.
Well, to be fair, Darth is claiming that to use logic you can only do so iff the Christian God(s) exist. So when logic is used to show a contradiction in the claimed nature of God, he’ll always either run to the “analogous” argument (the God of the gaps in analogies argument I call it) or he goes into the well, if you’re using logic then God must exist nonsense.
Source and basis of logic is darth’s rip cord to not having to defend his position
If God cannot be derived by logical means, does that mean God can only be derived by illogical means?
As Darth himself once said ‘God does not exist in any realm’
They even have a word for that - analogic. Which sounds a lot more impressive than not-logical.
@@davids11131113 Yet somehow we have the burden to prove the non-existence of this illogical, unobservable, unquantifiable being (who doesn’t exist in any realm).
Darth starts smashing the ABORT button at 8:30 by trying to throw logic out of the conversation. Funny how it was perfectly fine up until that point.
Darth: God is Logical
Also Darth: God isn't dependent on Logic.
By definition, if god isn't dependent* on logic it means god is illogical.
If god isn't dependent on the laws of logic, god is dependent on the laws of logic.
Whenever you get into actual Christian theology of course Darth knows next to nothing.
Look how hard he runs from talking about Christ.
Yikes. This is a particularly good example of Darth kicking out of fear.
I’m surprised he wasn’t googling away to try and form some kind of bullshit screen
7:12 That was a guess if I ever heard one. Always hilarious when Darth has no idea what the other person is talking about.
How can something fundamentally incomprehensible be the foundation for intelligiblility? It's just nonsense.
I’ve never understood how 3 persons can share one being when god doesn’t have a body… or a spacial location of any kind. What exactly is the being they are sharing?
It's a total dumpster fire
Why is Darth so afraid to hear the arguments of the individual that he talks with? All he does is talk at the individual while running out the clock. Trying to have a conversation and make points in said conversation is NOT bickering.
So, we can add the Trinity to the ever growing list of things Darth Dawkins does not understand.
The meta tears are real. His biggest dodge is crying about how badly atheists treat him. What a wimp.
Do you hear the pride and joy darth has describing his faith to people who question it? Me neither
This "3 in 1" BS contradicts the entire sacrifice of Jesus on the cross. How can you sacrifice yourself to yourself for the issues yourself created and it still be sacrificial?
I'm starting to think DD believes himself some kind of prophet. His bewildering confidence in his knowledge of "god" is rather nauseating.
8:38
The defeater for god will either:
Be the ultimate and the absolute
or
Be derived from the ultimate and the absolute.
P1 - I have X, the ultimate absolute
P2 - The laws of logic are derived from X
P3 - the laws of logic preclude the existence of god
P4 - god does not exist.
Darth is TERRIFIED. He doubted and might go to hell now.
Darth only does this so he can strut around like a weird peacock for his little boys club cult of dimwits DumLoc DerekLee etc he needs his adoration.
When do those unbelievers learn not to talk over Dirth when he is interrupting you?!
Hahah the projection of Darth on bickering and being cornered is astounding!
God is just a concrete abstraction. Come on guys, what's unclear about that? Lol
Darn, I thought God was the essence of a concrete abstraction. Whelp, back to theology class then.
I thought Bird was the word?
You sure it's not an abstract concretion? 😂
Crap! This is so difficult! Why can’t the God be Omni-benevolent or something and make this easy?
I've never heard a good description of the trinity, besides it's just a rip off of earlier trinitarian ideas, like the father, mother, and child. Much like everything else in the bible, the idea came from somewhere else.
The trinity is such a bad theological belief. It's just an apologetic formed from people who were trying to defend christianity against scrutiny.
A comprehensive failure for poor DD, as he's trying to explain something he doesn't understand, and he doesn't understand it because it's incoherent. The only way out of this quagmire is the all too familiar boot-and-cope.
ONE ETHENTTHHH!!
just so it's clear to everybody. every time this buffoon starts to argue whether you are able to use logic, asking questions like what -what is the source that makes logic ,logic- or what makes logic logical or any other sort of nonsense, he has already decided that you are a threat and need to be kicked out as soon as possible before you expose his idiocy.
Lol LITTLE darth has to run like a child yet AGAIN cos hes getting battered!
The incoherent trinity. 🤣🤦🏼♂️
And the thing is Darth acts like the trinity is this ‘settled upon Christian worldview’ and it’s been that way for 2,000 years….just totally false.
@@davids11131113 as he thinks the world is less than 10k years old he might as well think that, too
Ok. So Darth admits he cannot fully understand his god. But if we do not accept his God’s revelation, that’s their problem😂 You can’t make this shit up. Well….maybe you can🤷🏻♂️
Just call it a pantheon and be done with it.
That one thing is three things and the unity of being one thing as well as the diversity of being three things in one is so simple, if you don't understand that - you can't even use logic!!!!!.........
. apparently.
I would love to interview the people that he cut off and kicked so I can hear there argument. All we get is Darth crying at the end and claiming victory.
The "Trinity"... what a load of old bollocks! 🤣
That's my intellectual take on it anyway. 😌
Every time Gary asks something about god, as an atheist I must answer “god doesn’t exist”. Is god a trinity?: No because god doesn’t exist. Is god non contingent?: No, because god doesn’t exist. Is morality derived from the mind of god? No, because god doesn’t exist. Did Harry Potter defeat Voldemort? No because Harry doesn’t exist. And so on.
You should answer questions about God like how you answer questions about star wars. There are things that are cannot and things that are not cannon. Darth really doesn't know why things are cannon in religion. He is the worst fan boy ever.
An indivisible essence… divided into three parts…
Finest Darth Word Salad
There’s no point in continuing to listen to ding dong after he boots someone as all you get from then on is ding dong straw manning the person he just forcibly silenced.
2:00 Darth's God is not omnipotent.
DD is the Prof. Irwin Corey of the chat rooms.
Your dodging the question, no I'm not dodging, YEAH I DO!!! What the fuck he say?
Wasn't this the plot of Charmed?
😂
Darth Dawkins believes literally in Noahs Ark. That's how serious atheists take his childish blather.
To Summarise Gary talks bollox .
Darth doesn't know what "essence" means
Nothing was revealed to Darth. Darth reveals that to us though everyday.
The old ‘analogical’ dodge
12:50 You're the one who sounds cornered Gary. This is what you do. You go into accusation mode, you start accusing people of being trolls, of bickering, of being liars, of being scumbags, anything to deflect from the fact that you've lost yet another argument.
The book says what? Oh god, how am I gonna be able to explain that?
Hey Tom, do write gtaff?
Man that presup script is more of an interrogation. Why does anyone listen to it…
Dodge Dawkins over talked Big constantly and wouldn’t let him get a word in.
But even with the little Dodge Dawkins allowed Big to talk , it was enough for Big to serve Dodge Dawkins ass on a plate and hand it right to him
As a last resort Dodge Dawkins had to find any excuse to end the conversation.
Fortunately there was enough for any honest person to see exactly what was going on.
This was a terrible performance by Dodge Dawkins and everyone who watches it knows he got beat down big time
Get out the rat 🐀 poison ☠️
This is what they do , when they lose the argument you go back to the TAG script and then say everything comes from God and you don't believe therefore you can't use logic.
His abusive shtick is fundamental to preserving the fiction that he has a solid argument and he's skilled at defending it.
Transitive property of identity is how I've been demonstrating the self contradiction in the trinity for years and it made my day to see darth implode against it.
I wish they would just be honest and just say it cant be explained, its just goofy space magic, instead of all the gobbledygook
I agree, Darth's position about this is really weak. This wasn't Darth's best day.
Axioms
Darth's god must be real proud of the work he's doing on discord. 🙄
3 co equal distinctions … like a triangle?
Darths God is one thing that’s carved up by use of abstractions like pointing to a triangle and then pointing to its sides
Darth Raid always hates when people act like he/it does.
One ethenth. Got it.
he’s still saying is 3 = 1, now matter how he dresses it up.
Three distinct intellectual persons cannot be unified as one mind.
his profile pic lmao
I call b/s on that!!!
I understand the Why Darth doesn't do debates 🙂,
actually listening and addressing the other person's questions and/or points,
is something out of his league.
Although, it would be funny, a moderated debate (he did at least one at Mdd)
the funniest one I thought of right now, would be:
Topic - Do we have any good reasons to think the gospels (and/or the letters of Paul) are the revelation of any God?
Debators -
Darth Dawkins vs Richard Carrier.
🙂
I've heard more than my share of these stupid exchanges, but this might be the most egregious example of Gary forcibly shutting down an opponent, lest they succeed in voicing even a single, coherent argument.
He's absolutely terrified of this guy, and cannot, will not allow him to say his piece under any conditions. How completely infantile of him.
"Logic is an axiom" "Logic is an axiom" "Logic is an axiom" ... some people just don't have the ability to question their presuppositions. They can't think about thinking.
You think the earth is flat. Your opinion holds no weight.
Says the guy who can't drop his own presuppositions to perform an internal critique of someone else's (and lies about it)
Unending stream of circular gibberish.
You know the verse, “God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten self …”