I can still recall the first time my cousin showed me her....... kaleidoscope! Man that was an earth shaking event in my life. I begged my mother to buy one for me, but she told me that you had to have an electric light to make them work, and since our old farm had yet to get electric power I could not have one. Man when we finally moved to town the first thing I bought with the money I earned shoveling snow in the neighborhood was one of those kaleidoscope's, the fancy ones with the two tubes, one short one that you could turn whilst holding the other still. Man I spent hours with that little piece of cardboard and broken glass, and when my father sat on it, because I had set it down in his chair, and nobody sat in or placed anything in "his" chair, it was a goner. Well I took it apart to see what made it work, and saved up enough to buy another. I had forgotten all about that incident until watching this video, thanks for bringing back a great memory of my youth.
Rob Carstuff. No free lunch. Heat is always going to be a by product of making light. The point was the type of lighting dictates where the heat is produced.
Caledonian TV. Someone was getting rid of a really old record player. I grabbed the top part to have a cool way to spin my current project around. Amazing how much metal, engineering, and connections go into the bottom end. I kept spinning it with my finger watching this move that which moved 5 other things in waves and then the arm would kick off. I will recess it and build upon the spinner till it is just above flush with my work station.
I saw these at a Pink Floyd concert at The Roundhouse, Kentish Town, in the late 1960s. There were mind altering substances also available that might have enhanced the effect. Oh, by the way, I enjoyed the band.
I love these old disco lights, they make me feel young again; well young-ish anyway. I still use solar 250s in my show now and can even dig out some four head helicopters and scanners if a client really like the retro light show theme. Yes you need to be very mindful of the power consumption when lots of halogen effects are running but that aside I personally feel the colour richness of the halogen lamps are much more pleasant than LED.
Never seen one with only one wheel. All the old ones I've seen have had Two or three Dichroic wheels set into one large one that you could revolve to change the overall pattern. Used to have two of them on stage when I used to do Discos. (back in the 1970s. Memory's! lol)
Bigclive I wished I lived a little closer to ya, I would haul your bits back and forth, for ya. We all appreciate you continuing your videos while on travel.
Ahh, Austin Powers disco lights. I was too young to experience that in the disco clubs (I only had Baden Powell Scout clubs) but loved my cheap Kaleidoscopes as a child friendly version of LSD in the '70s. Indeed, I now remember being fascinated enough with optics to making my own cardboard periscope! haha. No prisms just broken mirrors!
hey clive, i really like your channel! i also think you do impressive videos without editing (maybe cutting out a few minutes but no after effects stuff) no ads, no "influencing" just passion for electronics. thanks for your content!
Anyone who makes fused-glass jewellry would be able to make a disc replacement from offcuts with little effort. I found it fascinating how they add certain chemicals to create bubbles and textures during firing.
An important use of dichroic glass was in color TV cameras, where an arrangement of dichroics was used to separate the incoming image from the lens into Red, Green, and Blue components, which were then focused onto 3 separate imaging tubes (or later, CCDs).
I know it's off topic and this may be a bit expensive, but I would like to see you take apart a One plus 3 or 5 Dash charger. It uses some different type of circuitry to let the phone draw more power without getting hot or dropping the charge time when still using the phone. Do what you feel like of course, I know you get thousands of requests.
I think it uses the technique of supplying a higher current at perhaps a slightly increased voltage to compensate for cable voltage drop. It probably only supplies the higher charge current when the battery is in a lower charge state and therefore able to handle the higher charging current better. I actually recommend against excessive use of fast charging as it does put extra strain on the battery and other components and will result in a shorter usable life.
bigclivedotcom actually the trick they use is for the charger to drop its voltage down to the charging voltage of the battery (3 to 4.2V) and bypass the charging control in the phone completely. It is in fact a really elaborate system with charger checking the cable and the phone talking over the data lines in a synchronous protocol.
Replacing the light source with an LED might not be as effective for colour-rendering reasons. The halogen bulb produces broad-spectrum light to pass through the narrow-band filters, and even a white LED might look strange in comparison.
but all halogen/incandescent light filtered still looks "yellow", LED tend to filter better when it comes to greens, yellows and blues and given thick enoughmaterial red is ok
Optikinetics still sell oil wheels, and have LED projectors available for them too. They’d probably knock up something like this on request, for the right money.
Watching Clive, I can not help but think of a famous Ultra Magnus line from the US third season of Transformers: "That is the most beautiful thing I have ever seen! ...Hand me the bomb."
Hey Big Clive, any plans for body (baby) thermometers, infrared or normal? I hope I can bypass the high and low warnings to get a normal reading outside body temperature range. Many Thanks.
Much nicer than the old Opti version, The wheel was much bigger but made of plastic so if you over tightened the grub screw onto the motor shaft it'd instantly crack, Constantly leaked gunk and as with a lot of the Opti plastic wheels - If the rotation stalled the lamp would make a nice brown blister in the wheel, That being the least of your worries as where the lamp was situated in relation to the plastic fan when (and not if) the fan failed it was a tossup if the lamp would act as a thermal fuse before the heat from it set fire to the plastic fan, Oh the crap you'd regularly find in 80's lightrigs!
I see many with only 120V motors in them, and they use the lamp transformer to act as combined autotransformer for the motors and light power. This saves stocking 2 voltage motors and simplifies worldwide use, at the expense of just adding a 3 way terminal block with a 120VAC or 240VAC supply connection and simply having a label inside ( often lost as the glue cooks dry) to show the option connections. The effects disk losing oil is very common, as they often do not include any pressure relief method ( often a silicone balloon to allow expansion of the oil as it is cooked by the lamp heat, some use a small beryllium copper bellows instead for much more viscous liquids or more corrosive ones ) to keep the oil from blowing past the seals with time.
I've liberated the contents of the wheel. The silicone sealant on one side had been applied onto an oil contaminated surface. It's just one void inside with all the dichroic fragments and oil in one space.
I recently made a 3D viewmaster projector using two dichroic halogen lamps and polarized lenses from cinema glasses, the trickiest part was making the 3D screen on a budget. Ended up using silver spray paint and it worked! (actually the projector lenses were even harder to make, I used one from a camera and one from an old 16mm projector and fluked the right match) The old 50s viewmaster slides are amazing.
John Howard Thats why they call it the "silver screen" Ive got an old screen for home movies with that glass bead surface, (excellent for ordinary video projectors) it's the same as road markings. I thought it would be ideal for my 3D set up as I heard a guy on a YT vid say "silver screen" is what you must have for a two projector home 3D set up. It didn't work! so I experimented with silver spraypaint, a chrome one being the best. I just couldn't afford to buy a proper 3D screen, so sprayed some plastic tracing paper I had a big roll of, and voila! One day I'd like to have a go at doing the 2 video projector thing, but in the meantime looking at old photos of coney island and Las Vegas, and all sorts of trippy stuff, is pretty neat, like a big hologram (but you need to wear polarized glasses).
bigclivedotcom, I think you are right :) It had an overlay with colored animals iirc. As a kid I wondered how they made the 35mm film have the liquid inside, neat effects. Cheers Clive.
Combine a ripple projector with an LED disco lamp and fire it down the three mirrors, I reckon the effect would look neat Not the same style as this, but still abstract colourful things moving about... Coloured glitter in a glitter lamp maybe? I wonder if one could suspend small colour filters in oil and use the convection currents in it to move them around... More expirements are needed.
Yeah protective stuff and maybe you'll have a big hit also I would love to see somebody to do this. How about all the above trying it and then put it on here on RUclips. Anyone with me why I try or has it whatever thanks
I actually have a led light that's somewhat similar. It has LEDs mounted on a PCB with a rod in the middle going above and holding a transparent plastic dome with angled planes that reflect and break the led light. The LEDs are red green and blue and the dome slowly spins. It's one with the traditional Edison screw and I got it from eBay for three pounds or so. It is a nice thing. Simple and effective.
I have an ACME Winner moving mirror scanner that uses a 24V 250W lamp, it made me sick to the stomach when the fan failed and it burnt out the lovely deep purple (UV) colour glass when it landed and held on that colour. I was wondering why it was turning into pink splats. They're supposed to be dichroic, I didnt think they could burn like that. Regardless I replaced the fan with a PC fan with red leds in it and took the lamp out. I moved the low volt fitting to one side and spliced in a GU10 fitting to the mains side and popped in a Phillips single chip LED lamp. To my surprise it was still running quite bright for in the house, it doesnt get bollock burning hot any more and can run all day and night with no issues ! :D I know its never going to reach the clouds any more but for home use its cheaper than replacing it with a modern led type scanner and will probably last many more years. The colours are still vibrant (except mr pink splotty) and works well :D So for anyone wondering if they can convert an old unit to LED, the answer is yes, as long as the led bulb fits the profile of the old bulb and your not bothered about a reduction in light output. I know there are mods for high power LEDs but I wanted cheap and simple, and I got it lol Nice fixture btw Mr Clive, Iv not seen one of those before, very 60's/70's retro effect :)
The Kodak Ektapro dual lamp carousel slide projector is a great source for parts. Apart from amazing optics tThey use 2 x Osram 300W EXR halogan 82v combined via mirror in a nice removable vented cartridge.. AC cyinder fan cooling unit and big 160v transformer.
You can still buy effects projectors, including a kaleidoscope. Takes me back to the days i ran a disco, we had a projector, but it used interchangeable gobo's, the gobo carrier was outside the case behind the lens, the projector had 'industry standard' rods out the front where the lens and carrier fitted, the gobo carrier could be changed for a wheel carrier.
Heh, got a little confused, it was a pluto 150, but used optikinetics gobo's, the only one i have left is cassette no 21/2, but not the projector the rods i referred to was from a different projector, like the ones they had in schools for slides, cast metal housing .
I was thinking about the solar projector see you since it has four times I've heard of these I don't I think they're made by the same company but rebranded.
Love this, you could make a disc out of fused bits of borosilicate glass. it has high thermal shock resistance & cheaper than dichroic. small one i made just using Mapp gas looked pretty good. Second covered in a layer of clear boro 1mm. even better.
Clive, simple bright white LEDs may be too narrow in frequency to produce quite such a complex colour effect as this device can using a relatively dim halogen, however, there are cheap ultra bright LEDs that use all three RGB colours on full to produce ‘white’, as used in ‘ripple projectors’ and colour changing mood lamps and the like. I would be very curious to see what effect would be produced if such an LED was shone through this disco lamp.
John Coops - Cheers, I was speaking of whatever halogen arrangements this lamp is using which Clive described as a bit dim, I would assume he was thinking of LCD projector type LEDs as a replacement although when he says dim he may in fact be referring to the way human eyes see purer white light as brighter even if it isn’t, but it was pointed out there can be narrow frequency issues when a white LED is used with dichroic glass, so I was literally just wondering out loud if a simple 3 (or 4, as some have white too) colour RGB LED with all colours blazing might be a complex and bright enough replacement to work, the lack of heat would be bonus and you’d have the option the vary the light balance, and as I believe Clive has both to hand right now it would be simpler to just try it than speculate, but of course I’d have to get noticed for that. *PUTS UP HAND AND SHOUTS SIR!*
I know one Wera screwdriver that looks a lot like the one you have has a handle that pulls back with bits stored in it. Might be worth giving it a tug. I deliberately brought knipex/wiha and Were tools just before retirement due to their quality. Well worth buying via the German website of a popular online company. Cheapest way of getting very high quality tools to last essentially forever.
I was working on one of these the other day, older than this i think, bit cheaper tool. No fan, just a concave mirror with loads of mozaic type mini mirrors painted various colours, a single stepper motor spins the wheel at a constant speed, has a wee microphone that you can enable / disable / adjust volume to providie a pulsing effect.
Just had a quick look on google, yep i think thats what it is! Cheers! These dicholric ones looks great though, will be on the lookout for one now... :)
I have a kalaido hid 150. I was using it for an online DJ set last night until I Heard it Pop when I nipped to the loo. I'm guessing the bulb went. I would like to get it repaired
it is interesting you have uploaded this! i have martin mania EF1 lamp, that i was considering on changing to LED as it uses a 12v 100W lamp, would be interesting to see how well it performs, if you do decide to convert yours to LED would you make a video showing the conversion of it ? :)
Didn't Martin or Abstract "remake" this, I forget what it was called, Chameleon rings a bell, but I don't think it's that. They made a circular version and another that was like a curtain with mad meandering patterns.
Could we use separate R, G and B LEDs with simple blocking screens? Possibly with random variable speed drives? Alternatively (since LED sources produce FAR less heat), a version of this could be made using a white 2 or 3W LED and gelatine projector filter offcuts (along with a few mirrors). COuld be a nice little project!
IMO seems a shame that the cam motor can't be switched independently... probably be more versatile and effective unit if you could keep the fanning effect for the climax of a particularly psychedelic record. thanks for that clive - I like the oldschool oil wheel effects
I wish I could remember to use moisturiser on my hands routinely. Work hardened skin is more prone to cracking, especially when using your hands for gripping heavy things.
Are you watching extra ashens advent calendars? Its strange you should mention Ware tools when Ashens seemingly has a screwdriver set calender, i wonder if its the same
Only thing missing is a long haired stoned hippie in a VW bus saying "Whoa maaaan!! Far out!!"... :P As for the LED idea, well, you have the majority of the parts, just add the LED & a suitable DC driver and you're set... :D
However we do have now push in terminals similar to those top of terminals as well as we're also starting to see them here as well. Your terms of what he was talking about.
Answer in terms of these lamp Transformers out of recycled and upcycled them to use to build my current power supplies. Anyone done that before. And also the utilizing it said Transformers has oil Transformers and other Transformers from salvaged equipment suggests line voltages and even lower voltages. Heck I had an old carbon Arc Light power supply unit dye used for a super bench power supply heck I even had some old tungsten argon rectifier are based ones I use for that.
most 3lcd multimedia projectors use dicroic glass i them to polarise and split color lights to 3 color paths in some projectors however if they are not maintain properly some of that dicroic coating seems to be evaporaying ot something and those mirrors lose some of theit properties making for instace one of the base colors more gradiented than it suposed to be (Might be because first mirror is exposed to a lot of uv)
eh...just mineral oil. my in pond pump is an oil-filled version. it's actually a cnc coolant pump. ever seen a computer run in mineral oil? cool shite, senor. thanks Clive!!
would it be mineral oil, or a silicone oil? I was thinking silicone, for dealing with the heat ( of the lamp ). On a side note, never seen a mineral oil cooled computer in person, but videos of them - you're right! pretty neat!
i've never handled silicone oil. only reason i said mineral oil is because it's cheap, plentiful, non-flammable, non-corrosive...that looks like a pretty skookum piece of gear. depending on the vintage it could be either.
Niko Andruloni He he,, cost is everything. . So a guy could replace the old technology with a LCD projector module, .. Then could insert a thumb drive with custom graphics. .. With or with the colidascope mirrors, ,, or could even include the that effect in the graphics, and do away with the mirrors all together. . Ideas are cheap,,, at least for me,, doing them,, not so much....
I'm not sure you'd get the same brilliant colours, and the same shape of the projection. But above all, an LCD with sufficient resolution will be very expensive. Essentialy you'd be getting a high quality 4K (or at least FHD) projector.
Have you considered getting a microphone that could clip to yourself? So when you move around the audio wouldn't keep changing. Wherever the mic was for this video it was easy to tell when you got in a less than optimum location for it, it would go from real clear to sounding like you were a little muffled. I enjoy your videos but I also would like to hear you cleanly too.
Yep that too. Or equipment that generates quite a bit of heat that has not been running a while or on or just some dirt on big Power is a source of run quite hard.
This might be an obvious thing to the more experienced, but concerning clives story about the guy at the fairground who was "electrocuted" trying to fix the transformer. Is the implication that the dude died? Because I can't tell either way.
@@bigclivedotcom there was someone somewhere that happened in my home shop except I got a really nasty jolt off of European made movie projector that was was multi-voltage Hawking Transformer in that thing and would like what you might expect for someone made in our country the motors were European 220 Motors and that France for acted as a Step up Transformer when set them or voltages the Taps were changed at the Transformer itself no voltage switching and I was working on this I did not realize is that the court I am plugged what's wrong off his equipment and not the one on the healing bench oops turns out one of the winnings when it was on 110 volts put out enough the overload my meter MB pinacate overload when I checked it just to be curious what the voltage was so in other words I got over 500 volts shock off an AC power supply for a 4in a piece of equipment it was just from the end of a finger to the middle of finger or self but I remember that good I'm glad I was not touching ground or touching that projector case which was grounded ouch probably the stupidest thing I've ever doing it working on something electrical or electronic I don't know I've been Zapped by a few other things are there instantly but that probably could have it all. Now I always make sure every time it's dead before working on it all caps discharged and if it's installed as connected hardwired lock out tag out. I do a lot of work so I always do that even in a home I've been there it gets bad especially when there's an idiot as washing TV or wants to and the TV is on the so pale you're working on and a river sign off cut your lock and turn on a 220 when you're working with it at that moment. That feeds the sub panel.
Speaking to all of you guys and be quiet. Talk about the halogen vs LED lighting and Equipment Etc I used to be on stage crew years ago in high school 250 watt halogens try 500 watt and more. Not to mention those is Xenon lamps on the Falls spots. Then those bulbs are over a hundred bucks a pop. Pun intended. Every now and then we would know when one of our stage lights lights would go out unexpectedly because the bulb would explode I'm talking about the large halogens with the prefix spaces that where the Mughal in size Bass. I remember once one of our guys was up on the Genie Lift we had a bulb that was not working and it was still plugged in I don't know why it was still plugged in when he went up there. But he reached Inferno bulb happened that have one arm on the safety case of the Genie Lift about 50 feet or so up in in the gym before homecoming and screams out all of a sudden it's live diet from one arm to the other and believer or not that fixture had a bad ground plus it was clamp to steel beam which had enough paint on it to to keep that for making a decent ground connection that's the only reason it did not trip breaker on Earth why do you quit meant there was no ground fault protection as we call it in the United States ground-fault circuit interrupter or from where big Clive is Earth leakage breaker or rcd. In the auditorium we had three face that was an ant coming in strictly for lights and that does not include several several hundred amps of auxiliary and others coming in once we wind up using jumper cables to bypass main breaker because The Show Must Go On biggest performance we ever had at school it would have been the most point ever for our school if the show had to be cancelled. I was the one that did this of course I was up there wearing runs women's gloves the whole time unclear call mircom waiting for any indication to yank the cables I was the one that did all of the electrical work and repairs for stage crew for 4 years all through High School yes I was authorized to do a logical work even though I was not certified it tells you just how much is a d y r i Am that knows the codes I've done installations never had a proper inspections I've out and Don Professionals in terms of passing code and surprising code according to the inspections.
A Scottish goes to the barber shop. How much for a haircut he asks. 5 pounds the barber reply. And how much for a shave the scottish asked. That would be 1 pound sir. Ok, goes the scottish, then shave my head... 😂
I wonder why they used a 12 volt fan when they could have used a AC fan just like they used AC motors, would have made things simpler, also why use the 24 volt quarts lamp when projectors have been using 120 volt and 240 volt lamps for years ? would have made the unit so light weight and lower cost.
12V fan is a lot cheaper and quieter than a 115VAC or 230VAC fan though, and will last long enough to get the unit out and running, plus it is a lot less mass added to the unit. Though with them already having a 24VAC transformer they could simply have specced the winder to add an extra secondary of 9VAC to it and had a free supply. Adding second winding when you already have a custom primary ( 3 wires for voltage selection is custom, you typically have a single primary voltage only) is cheaper than adding another transformer to the unit, just from the extra assembly steps needed. Or they could have just used a 24 VDC fan instead and added a simple voltage regulator board to the design, which would also have worked.
No. It was definitely supposed to be inside the glass layers. I've found where it was leaking from. They had tried to silicone seal onto an oil contaminated surface.
I can still recall the first time my cousin showed me her....... kaleidoscope! Man that was an earth shaking event in my life. I begged my mother to buy one for me, but she told me that you had to have an electric light to make them work, and since our old farm had yet to get electric power I could not have one. Man when we finally moved to town the first thing I bought with the money I earned shoveling snow in the neighborhood was one of those kaleidoscope's, the fancy ones with the two tubes, one short one that you could turn whilst holding the other still. Man I spent hours with that little piece of cardboard and broken glass, and when my father sat on it, because I had set it down in his chair, and nobody sat in or placed anything in "his" chair, it was a goner. Well I took it apart to see what made it work, and saved up enough to buy another. I had forgotten all about that incident until watching this video, thanks for bringing back a great memory of my youth.
I miss that burning dust smell you get on old lamps.. You just don't get that with LED's lol
No. Just burning PCBs.
Not to mention the immediate risk of burning the house down because your kid threw a t-shirt over a halogen lamp!
Convert to LED
Rob Carstuff. No free lunch. Heat is always going to be a by product of making light. The point was the type of lighting dictates where the heat is produced.
Caledonian TV. Someone was getting rid of a really old record player. I grabbed the top part to have a cool way to spin my current project around. Amazing how much metal, engineering, and connections go into the bottom end. I kept spinning it with my finger watching this move that which moved 5 other things in waves and then the arm would kick off. I will recess it and build upon the spinner till it is just above flush with my work station.
I saw these at a Pink Floyd concert at The Roundhouse, Kentish Town, in the late 1960s. There were mind altering substances also available that might have enhanced the effect. Oh, by the way, I enjoyed the band.
I would love to see a modern, brighter version of this. The effect is lovely.
I love these old disco lights, they make me feel young again; well young-ish anyway. I still use solar 250s in my show now and can even dig out some four head helicopters and scanners if a client really like the retro light show theme. Yes you need to be very mindful of the power consumption when lots of halogen effects are running but that aside I personally feel the colour richness of the halogen lamps are much more pleasant than LED.
Never seen one with only one wheel. All the old ones I've seen have had Two or three Dichroic wheels set into one large one that you could revolve to change the overall pattern. Used to have two of them on stage when I used to do Discos. (back in the 1970s. Memory's! lol)
Bigclive I wished I lived a little closer to ya, I would haul your bits back and forth, for ya. We all appreciate you continuing your videos while on travel.
Ahh, Austin Powers disco lights. I was too young to experience that in the disco clubs (I only had Baden Powell Scout clubs) but loved my cheap Kaleidoscopes as a child friendly version of LSD in the '70s.
Indeed, I now remember being fascinated enough with optics to making my own cardboard periscope! haha. No prisms just broken mirrors!
hey clive, i really like your channel!
i also think you do impressive videos without editing (maybe cutting out a few minutes but no after effects stuff) no ads, no "influencing" just passion for electronics.
thanks for your content!
Ditto.
I would love to have one of those! It's a beauty, and it's plain to see it was built to last. Puts out a great light show, too.
Sadly, all I can find through the Googler is those crappy plastic holiday ones. ICK
Anyone who makes fused-glass jewellry would be able to make a disc replacement from offcuts with little effort.
I found it fascinating how they add certain chemicals to create bubbles and textures during firing.
I would love to see you repurpose this kaleidoscope piece in a different lighting solution. And thank you for the great content!
Clive, you are really a disco enthusiast! For the next video show us your dance skills! Thumbs up if you want see Clive dancing ;-)
It's mainly violent hip thrusts.
bigclivedotcom - Are you a private dancer, Clive? ;)
I've never seen Tina Turner and Big Clive in the same room together. Just saying. Although I see Clive as a Studio 54 kinda guy.
bigclivedotcom Ah, that would be the Funky Duckman.
That's really interesting, I love Kaleidoscopes and guess these are not as complicated as I thought.
Release the shmoo!
Very AvE. Is Big Clive becoming a Canukistan?
A man you never see the face of has significant influence with bulletproof ideas. One of those being that saying, and how fun it is to say out loud.
I love these little references... disappointed Clive doesn't occasionally say FUUULLLL BRIDGE RECTIFIER "properly".
RELEASE THE SHMOOO!
Full bridge rectum-fryer.
An important use of dichroic glass was in color TV cameras, where an arrangement of dichroics was used to separate the incoming image from the lens into Red, Green, and Blue components, which were then focused onto 3 separate imaging tubes (or later, CCDs).
Also projectors, i.imgur.com/gQWKn7Q.jpg
I think most of us already know you're part of the Glasgow fight club... Show off those busted up knuckles, be proud!
I know it's off topic and this may be a bit expensive, but I would like to see you take apart a One plus 3 or 5 Dash charger. It uses some different type of circuitry to let the phone draw more power without getting hot or dropping the charge time when still using the phone. Do what you feel like of course, I know you get thousands of requests.
I think it uses the technique of supplying a higher current at perhaps a slightly increased voltage to compensate for cable voltage drop. It probably only supplies the higher charge current when the battery is in a lower charge state and therefore able to handle the higher charging current better. I actually recommend against excessive use of fast charging as it does put extra strain on the battery and other components and will result in a shorter usable life.
bigclivedotcom actually the trick they use is for the charger to drop its voltage down to the charging voltage of the battery (3 to 4.2V) and bypass the charging control in the phone completely.
It is in fact a really elaborate system with charger checking the cable and the phone talking over the data lines in a synchronous protocol.
Just seeing that pattern instantly took me back to Christmas 1997 when I got my first kaleidoscope... simpler times when I was 5 lol
Things like that meant so much when we were younger.
Replacing the light source with an LED might not be as effective for colour-rendering reasons. The halogen bulb produces broad-spectrum light to pass through the narrow-band filters, and even a white LED might look strange in comparison.
Yuji makes LEDs with 98 CRI, and sells in small quantities
www.yujiintl.com/
thing is maybe the BUBBLES relys on the Halogen heating it
but all halogen/incandescent light filtered still looks "yellow", LED tend to filter better when it comes to greens, yellows and blues and given thick enoughmaterial red is ok
LED would give the possibility of a epilepsy inducing strobe mode for added amusement and versatility.
Optikinetics still sell oil wheels, and have LED projectors available for them too. They’d probably knock up something like this on request, for the right money.
Clever design clive, and who cared about power years ago, it did its job for its day :-D
Tungsten projector lamps were the only affordable option for lights like this in that era.
Watching Clive, I can not help but think of a famous Ultra Magnus line from the US third season of Transformers: "That is the most beautiful thing I have ever seen! ...Hand me the bomb."
Hey Big Clive, any plans for body (baby) thermometers, infrared or normal? I hope I can bypass the high and low warnings to get a normal reading outside body temperature range. Many Thanks.
Much nicer than the old Opti version, The wheel was much bigger but made of plastic so if you over tightened the grub screw onto the motor shaft it'd instantly crack, Constantly leaked gunk and as with a lot of the Opti plastic wheels - If the rotation stalled the lamp would make a nice brown blister in the wheel, That being the least of your worries as where the lamp was situated in relation to the plastic fan when (and not if) the fan failed it was a tossup if the lamp would act as a thermal fuse before the heat from it set fire to the plastic fan, Oh the crap you'd regularly find in 80's lightrigs!
I see many with only 120V motors in them, and they use the lamp transformer to act as combined autotransformer for the motors and light power. This saves stocking 2 voltage motors and simplifies worldwide use, at the expense of just adding a 3 way terminal block with a 120VAC or 240VAC supply connection and simply having a label inside ( often lost as the glue cooks dry) to show the option connections.
The effects disk losing oil is very common, as they often do not include any pressure relief method ( often a silicone balloon to allow expansion of the oil as it is cooked by the lamp heat, some use a small beryllium copper bellows instead for much more viscous liquids or more corrosive ones ) to keep the oil from blowing past the seals with time.
I've liberated the contents of the wheel. The silicone sealant on one side had been applied onto an oil contaminated surface. It's just one void inside with all the dichroic fragments and oil in one space.
I recently made a 3D viewmaster projector using two dichroic halogen lamps and polarized lenses from cinema glasses, the trickiest part was making the 3D screen on a budget. Ended up using silver spray paint and it worked! (actually the projector lenses were even harder to make, I used one from a camera and one from an old 16mm projector and fluked the right match) The old 50s viewmaster slides are amazing.
John Howard Thats why they call it the "silver screen" Ive got an old screen for home movies with that glass bead surface, (excellent for ordinary video projectors) it's the same as road markings. I thought it would be ideal for my 3D set up as I heard a guy on a YT vid say "silver screen" is what you must have for a two projector home 3D set up. It didn't work! so I experimented with silver spraypaint, a chrome one being the best. I just couldn't afford to buy a proper 3D screen, so sprayed some plastic tracing paper I had a big roll of, and voila! One day I'd like to have a go at doing the 2 video projector thing, but in the meantime looking at old photos of coney island and Las Vegas, and all sorts of trippy stuff, is pretty neat, like a big hologram (but you need to wear polarized glasses).
I guess our old cinema had something similar for inbetween showings. I remember staring at the bubbles as they morphed around, hypnotic.
Sounds like a oil wheel projector.
bigclivedotcom, I think you are right :)
It had an overlay with colored animals iirc. As a kid I wondered how they made the 35mm film have the liquid inside, neat effects. Cheers Clive.
@@bigclivedotcom yes you're right I know someone that works in cinema for years and years and years and years still to this day.
Combine a ripple projector with an LED disco lamp and fire it down the three mirrors, I reckon the effect would look neat
Not the same style as this, but still abstract colourful things moving about...
Coloured glitter in a glitter lamp maybe? I wonder if one could suspend small colour filters in oil and use the convection currents in it to move them around...
More expirements are needed.
Yeah protective stuff and maybe you'll have a big hit also I would love to see somebody to do this. How about all the above trying it and then put it on here on RUclips. Anyone with me why I try or has it whatever thanks
"The Toblerone of Mirrors": a BigCliveDotCom Production.
I actually have a led light that's somewhat similar. It has LEDs mounted on a PCB with a rod in the middle going above and holding a transparent plastic dome with angled planes that reflect and break the led light. The LEDs are red green and blue and the dome slowly spins. It's one with the traditional Edison screw and I got it from eBay for three pounds or so. It is a nice thing. Simple and effective.
Those holiday home decor projectors are this exactly, minus the dichroics.
I have an ACME Winner moving mirror scanner that uses a 24V 250W lamp, it made me sick to the stomach when the fan failed and it burnt out the lovely deep purple (UV) colour glass when it landed and held on that colour. I was wondering why it was turning into pink splats. They're supposed to be dichroic, I didnt think they could burn like that. Regardless I replaced the fan with a PC fan with red leds in it and took the lamp out. I moved the low volt fitting to one side and spliced in a GU10 fitting to the mains side and popped in a Phillips single chip LED lamp. To my surprise it was still running quite bright for in the house, it doesnt get bollock burning hot any more and can run all day and night with no issues ! :D I know its never going to reach the clouds any more but for home use its cheaper than replacing it with a modern led type scanner and will probably last many more years. The colours are still vibrant (except mr pink splotty) and works well :D
So for anyone wondering if they can convert an old unit to LED, the answer is yes, as long as the led bulb fits the profile of the old bulb and your not bothered about a reduction in light output. I know there are mods for high power LEDs but I wanted cheap and simple, and I got it lol
Nice fixture btw Mr Clive, Iv not seen one of those before, very 60's/70's retro effect :)
"It might sound a bit boxy and boomy in here."
Testing, testing, one, two, three.
Bicycles, icicles, Ricicles, Test...
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You've got me wanting one of these now. Sounds like the postage could be a bit high though.
The Kodak Ektapro dual lamp carousel slide projector is a great source for parts. Apart from amazing optics tThey use 2 x Osram 300W EXR halogan 82v combined via mirror in a nice removable vented cartridge.. AC cyinder fan cooling unit and big 160v transformer.
You can still buy effects projectors, including a kaleidoscope.
Takes me back to the days i ran a disco, we had a projector, but it used interchangeable gobo's, the gobo carrier was outside the case behind the lens, the projector had 'industry standard' rods out the front where the lens and carrier fitted, the gobo carrier could be changed for a wheel carrier.
Optikinetics solar 250 or Pluto copy?
Heh, got a little confused, it was a pluto 150, but used optikinetics gobo's, the only one i have left is cassette no 21/2, but not the projector
the rods i referred to was from a different projector, like the ones they had in schools for slides, cast metal housing
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I was thinking about the solar projector see you since it has four times I've heard of these I don't I think they're made by the same company but rebranded.
Thanks for sharing 😀👍
Clive - are you doing Christmas lights in Glasgow? If so, would be great to get some backstage vids as per Edinburgh festival?
Yes post-war Christmas light backstage videos and the such & More on Christmas lights.
Sorry it should have. Been post-war it should have been post more that's Google voice recognition for you Google strike 78.
Why on Earth convert to LED, when the dichroic glass containing element requires 250W to warm the oil in it?
"Toblerone of mirrors" Yes.
Love this, you could make a disc out of fused bits of borosilicate glass. it has high thermal shock resistance & cheaper than dichroic.
small one i made just using Mapp gas looked pretty good. Second covered in a layer of clear boro 1mm. even better.
Hi dude, interesting video as usual!
can you show that cheap dmx light? Just by some cheap console or usb to dmx sunlight controller. No need to use super expensive equipment
Clive, simple bright white LEDs may be too narrow in frequency to produce quite such a complex colour effect as this device can using a relatively dim halogen, however, there are cheap ultra bright LEDs that use all three RGB colours on full to produce ‘white’, as used in ‘ripple projectors’ and colour changing mood lamps and the like. I would be very curious to see what effect would be produced if such an LED was shone through this disco lamp.
John Coops - Cheers, I was speaking of whatever halogen arrangements this lamp is using which Clive described as a bit dim, I would assume he was thinking of LCD projector type LEDs as a replacement although when he says dim he may in fact be referring to the way human eyes see purer white light as brighter even if it isn’t, but it was pointed out there can be narrow frequency issues when a white LED is used with dichroic glass, so I was literally just wondering out loud if a simple 3 (or 4, as some have white too) colour RGB LED with all colours blazing might be a complex and bright enough replacement to work, the lack of heat would be bonus and you’d have the option the vary the light balance, and as I believe Clive has both to hand right now it would be simpler to just try it than speculate, but of course I’d have to get noticed for that. *PUTS UP HAND AND SHOUTS SIR!*
John Coops - *DRINKS FULL GLASS* oOh, look, my glass is empty, please excuse me...
Hi Clive would you consider doing a video on PLCs?
Check ouch a v e on this one. But yes big climb should do it as well. Please be quiet please
I know one Wera screwdriver that looks a lot like the one you have has a handle that pulls back with bits stored in it. Might be worth giving it a tug. I deliberately brought knipex/wiha and Were tools just before retirement due to their quality. Well worth buying via the German website of a popular online company. Cheapest way of getting very high quality tools to last essentially forever.
I was working on one of these the other day, older than this i think, bit cheaper tool. No fan, just a concave mirror with loads of mozaic type mini mirrors painted various colours, a single stepper motor spins the wheel at a constant speed, has a wee microphone that you can enable / disable / adjust volume to providie a pulsing effect.
Sounds like the classic moonflower effect.
Just had a quick look on google, yep i think thats what it is! Cheers! These dicholric ones looks great though, will be on the lookout for one now... :)
thats a 250W lamp... man that must be HOT!
That's why the fan is provided !
@@psirvent8 heck yeah. Duh.
I remember similar transformers in high power overhead projectors.
I got electric shocks from bumper cars in Bridlington when I was a kid. The bastard thing!
I have a kalaido hid 150. I was using it for an online DJ set last night until I Heard it Pop when I nipped to the loo. I'm guessing the bulb went. I would like to get it repaired
Makes me think of "Carnival glass" ornaments; which I assume, is glass made in a similar way to the dichroic glass.
it is interesting you have uploaded this! i have martin mania EF1 lamp, that i was considering on changing to LED as it uses a 12v 100W lamp, would be interesting to see how well it performs, if you do decide to convert yours to LED would you make a video showing the conversion of it ? :)
Didn't Martin or Abstract "remake" this, I forget what it was called, Chameleon rings a bell, but I don't think it's that. They made a circular version and another that was like a curtain with mad meandering patterns.
Could we use separate R, G and B LEDs with simple blocking screens? Possibly with random variable speed drives? Alternatively (since LED sources produce FAR less heat), a version of this could be made using a white 2 or 3W LED and gelatine projector filter offcuts (along with a few mirrors). COuld be a nice little project!
IMO seems a shame that the cam motor can't be switched independently... probably be more versatile and effective unit if you could keep the fanning effect for the climax of a particularly psychedelic record.
thanks for that clive - I like the oldschool oil wheel effects
Nice, you could replace the lamp with a high power led chip and cut power and heat massively.
Thank you for reminding me to moisturize my hands. ^.^
I wish I could remember to use moisturiser on my hands routinely. Work hardened skin is more prone to cracking, especially when using your hands for gripping heavy things.
I can only imagine. I have tech-support hands and my skin still crack. Put the bottle somewhere it will be annoyingly in your way later.
I really want to see you put an LED in that light effect, just to see if the optics would work
If you want a better version of this, look in to the old Optikinetics projectors, you can get lots of fantastic effects in wheel or cartridge form.
Mark Wallis This unit is such poor quality compared to a solar 250. They don’t make em like they used to.
Are you watching extra ashens advent calendars? Its strange you should mention Ware tools when Ashens seemingly has a screwdriver set calender, i wonder if its the same
I heard "cliveascope".
I thought I did too maybe intestinal?.
Could you not change the bulb to an LED equivalent?
Just bought a LED exterior 1000 spot projector from a facebook advert. Not bad, maybe a bit underpowered, but it does work. Made in France.
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i'd like to see that larger toblerone of mirrors you speak of.
Only thing missing is a long haired stoned hippie in a VW bus saying "Whoa maaaan!! Far out!!"... :P
As for the LED idea, well, you have the majority of the parts, just add the LED & a suitable DC driver and you're set... :D
The LED solution may not work as the heat from the ELC lamp is needed to warm the oil, making the Dichroic's "Fluid"
Clive, you and Thunderf00t both covered Dichroic glass on the same day. He explains what it is, and you show how it's used. Cool.
Is taping something up allowed? I, myself, always put a wago on the end of all unused wires.
Wire nuts here in the United States.
However we do have now push in terminals similar to those top of terminals as well as we're also starting to see them here as well. Your terms of what he was talking about.
I was thinking as well. Just install a lcd. Also why does it have such a powerful power unit?
Answer in terms of these lamp Transformers out of recycled and upcycled them to use to build my current power supplies. Anyone done that before. And also the utilizing it said Transformers has oil Transformers and other Transformers from salvaged equipment suggests line voltages and even lower voltages. Heck I had an old carbon Arc Light power supply unit dye used for a super bench power supply heck I even had some old tungsten argon rectifier are based ones I use for that.
Maybe Ashens should send you his Wera screwdriver bit set from his advent calendar...
Strangely I have been gifted a Wera advent calendar too.
Equinox make an led version of this. Called a kaleido or something like that.
When you said the toblerone of mirrors I imagined a prism or is it just 3 mirrors in a triangle?
Just a triangular tube.
You must rebuild!!! Or renew if your feeling a little Logan’s Run
Which wire do i cut? Red....er yellow
These halogen lamps only last 50 hours because they run so hot. The slightest knock while on will break the filament.
Yep and tell her true I've ran into the same problem oopsie broke to filament.
most 3lcd multimedia projectors use dicroic glass i them to polarise and split color lights to 3 color paths
in some projectors however if they are not maintain properly some of that dicroic coating seems to be evaporaying ot something and those mirrors lose some of theit properties making for instace one of the base colors more gradiented than it suposed to be (Might be because first mirror is exposed to a lot of uv)
eh...just mineral oil. my in pond pump is an oil-filled version. it's actually a cnc coolant pump.
ever seen a computer run in mineral oil? cool shite, senor.
thanks Clive!!
would it be mineral oil, or a silicone oil? I was thinking silicone, for dealing with the heat ( of the lamp ). On a side note, never seen a mineral oil cooled computer in person, but videos of them - you're right! pretty neat!
i've never handled silicone oil. only reason i said mineral oil is because it's cheap, plentiful, non-flammable, non-corrosive...that looks like a pretty skookum piece of gear. depending on the vintage it could be either.
@@todesgeber oh a v e strikes again!
Intentional I think so.
I don't believe I didn't know how a kaleidoscope worked till just now, thanks Clive.
In terms of optical control you'd be hard pressed to beat halogen reflector lamps...
Can light be projected through a LCD?
Yes, that's how some digital projectors work
Niko Andruloni
He he,, cost is everything. . So a guy could replace the old technology with a LCD projector module, .. Then could insert a thumb drive with custom graphics. ..
With or with the colidascope mirrors, ,, or could even include the that effect in the graphics, and do away with the mirrors all together. .
Ideas are cheap,,, at least for me,, doing them,, not so much....
You could but its a crappy technique. LCDs also don't really like heat a lot.
Or just get a normal Videoprojector instead of this device ;)
I'm not sure you'd get the same brilliant colours, and the same shape of the projection. But above all, an LCD with sufficient resolution will be very expensive. Essentialy you'd be getting a high quality 4K (or at least FHD) projector.
Yes. i.imgur.com/gQWKn7Q.jpg
Any idea where I could possibly buy something like this?
These days I think it would be easier and cheaper to do it with a small video projector.
You should make a video about everything inside a microwave.
Have you considered getting a microphone that could clip to yourself? So when you move around the audio wouldn't keep changing. Wherever the mic was for this video it was easy to tell when you got in a less than optimum location for it, it would go from real clear to sounding like you were a little muffled. I enjoy your videos but I also would like to hear you cleanly too.
I didn't record this at my usual bench, so I wasn't able to maintain a consistent microphone position.
That explains it, thanks.
What make and model machine is this, I have looked all over the Internet and can find nothing on it. Thanks, tim
It's a very old effect from a generic Chinese factory.
The halogen lamp is what we used as a light bulb they were very hot and emited heat.
smell you get from old radio with tubes
Yep that too.
Or equipment that generates quite a bit of heat that has not been running a while or on or just some dirt on big Power is a source of run quite hard.
Wera are also voted the best advent calender by popular polls so far.
This might be an obvious thing to the more experienced, but concerning clives story about the guy at the fairground who was "electrocuted" trying to fix the transformer. Is the implication that the dude died?
Because I can't tell either way.
+Faiz Imam I'm afraid he did. The word electrocuted indicates that death occurred.
@@bigclivedotcom there was someone somewhere that happened in my home shop except I got a really nasty jolt off of European made movie projector that was was multi-voltage Hawking Transformer in that thing and would like what you might expect for someone made in our country the motors were European 220 Motors and that France for acted as a Step up Transformer when set them or voltages the Taps were changed at the Transformer itself no voltage switching and I was working on this I did not realize is that the court I am plugged what's wrong off his equipment and not the one on the healing bench oops turns out one of the winnings when it was on 110 volts put out enough the overload my meter MB pinacate overload when I checked it just to be curious what the voltage was so in other words I got over 500 volts shock off an AC power supply for a 4in a piece of equipment it was just from the end of a finger to the middle of finger or self but I remember that good I'm glad I was not touching ground or touching that projector case which was grounded ouch probably the stupidest thing I've ever doing it working on something electrical or electronic I don't know I've been Zapped by a few other things are there instantly but that probably could have it all. Now I always make sure every time it's dead before working on it all caps discharged and if it's installed as connected hardwired lock out tag out. I do a lot of work so I always do that even in a home I've been there it gets bad especially when there's an idiot as washing TV or wants to and the TV is on the so pale you're working on and a river sign off cut your lock and turn on a 220 when you're working with it at that moment. That feeds the sub panel.
Clive are you doing the Christmas lighting in Glasgow ?
No. I've not done them for 4 years.
maybe it has to do with 'green-thinking' albeit the green thinking must be more seen as green for their own pocket-health ;-)
It also could be they miss Clive's handywork :)
I've used the other taps as low current poor mans "step up/down" transformer in the past :)
Same here of used salvaged equipment I had a bunch of all kinds of autotransformers even some giant ones.
you shoud rebuild it with a 10W led :) and mabye with dmx just for fun :)
Now it is apart, can you rebuild it better?
I'm playing with it to see if it can use an LED source.
Epic. I look forward to seeing the rebuild.
Speaking to all of you guys and be quiet. Talk about the halogen vs LED lighting and Equipment Etc I used to be on stage crew years ago in high school 250 watt halogens try 500 watt and more.
Not to mention those is Xenon lamps on the Falls spots.
Then those bulbs are over a hundred bucks a pop.
Pun intended.
Every now and then we would know when one of our stage lights lights would go out unexpectedly because the bulb would explode I'm talking about the large halogens with the prefix spaces that where the Mughal in size Bass. I remember once one of our guys was up on the Genie Lift we had a bulb that was not working and it was still plugged in I don't know why it was still plugged in when he went up there. But he reached Inferno bulb happened that have one arm on the safety case of the Genie Lift about 50 feet or so up in in the gym before homecoming and screams out all of a sudden it's live diet from one arm to the other and believer or not that fixture had a bad ground plus it was clamp to steel beam which had enough paint on it to to keep that for making a decent ground connection that's the only reason it did not trip breaker on Earth why do you quit meant there was no ground fault protection as we call it in the United States ground-fault circuit interrupter or from where big Clive is Earth leakage breaker or rcd.
In the auditorium we had three face that was an ant coming in strictly for lights and that does not include several several hundred amps of auxiliary and others coming in once we wind up using jumper cables to bypass main breaker because The Show Must Go On biggest performance we ever had at school it would have been the most point ever for our school if the show had to be cancelled. I was the one that did this of course I was up there wearing runs women's gloves the whole time unclear call mircom waiting for any indication to yank the cables I was the one that did all of the electrical work and repairs for stage crew for 4 years all through High School yes I was authorized to do a logical work even though I was not certified it tells you just how much is a d y r i Am that knows the codes I've done installations never had a proper inspections I've out and Don Professionals in terms of passing code and surprising code according to the inspections.
Wera and wiha are the only drivers I use now
A Scottish goes to the barber shop. How much for a haircut he asks. 5 pounds the barber reply. And how much for a shave the scottish asked. That would be 1 pound sir. Ok, goes the scottish, then shave my head... 😂
I shave my own head. That barber isn't getting his greedy hands on my wee pound coin.
You've even done a video showing us. Making some dosh from shaving your own head, that's very Scottish ;-)
Caledonian TV a Scottish an English and an Irish walk into a bar... 😂
Caledonian TV I think your comment went right past them. hahaha
I wonder why they used a 12 volt fan when they could have used a AC fan just like they used AC motors, would have made things simpler, also why use the 24 volt quarts lamp when projectors have been using 120 volt and 240 volt lamps for years ? would have made the unit so light weight and lower cost.
12V fan is a lot cheaper and quieter than a 115VAC or 230VAC fan though, and will last long enough to get the unit out and running, plus it is a lot less mass added to the unit. Though with them already having a 24VAC transformer they could simply have specced the winder to add an extra secondary of 9VAC to it and had a free supply. Adding second winding when you already have a custom primary ( 3 wires for voltage selection is custom, you typically have a single primary voltage only) is cheaper than adding another transformer to the unit, just from the extra assembly steps needed. Or they could have just used a 24 VDC fan instead and added a simple voltage regulator board to the design, which would also have worked.
Is the oil not purposely there as a lube between the wheel and the steel case?
No. It was definitely supposed to be inside the glass layers. I've found where it was leaking from. They had tried to silicone seal onto an oil contaminated surface.
Ahh! You can't beat a drop of methylated spirits!
I wonder if you can "reoil" it???
I'm going to give it a go.
I would try olive oil...less toxic. If that does not work...just make a salad.