I loved connecting iron! You could see that you had done work to make America better every day! Finally got tired of living out of a suitcase a long way from home. Hung up my belt in 1982 making $18.75/hr plus full medical insurance and a buck/hour vacation pay. Went back to ranching with my Dad. Raised my sons to be excellent cowboys and helped feed America! God bless all the excellent guys in Local 10 I had the pleasure to work with!!!
@@Smoke-zc2de beaucoup de compagnie on un salaire de départ de 25$ de l'heure et plus. C'est très en demande aussi. Donc c'est un bon choix a mon avis!
@@alreddy13 the office job was not good for me. Yes welding is harder physically, hotter environments most of the time but I still feel much better after a 10 hours shift in the shop compared to 8 hours sitting on my ass!
I just found these and can't stop watching. I have massive respect for this work it takes special kind of person to do this. I'm clenching my legs like I'm up there too 😅 stay safe!
I worked in 2 steel mills, totaling 11 yrs, and it’s pretty cool to see work like this. Furnace, LMS&Caster, although our finish product wasn’t beams for structure, it was still awesome to work with hot liquid steel at 2800 degrees. I live in Central Jersey, and if any company is hiring for this kind of work, you may leave a message. I will always have high amount of respect for guys, and gals, who work with steel in this fashion. Cool video
Just think some asshole thinks these guys make too much money! Hats off to the hard working Americans building our country. You deserve a hot lunch everyday and big check every week!
Take your spud out of the connection before signaling the crane, that's how you get unnecessary tension, that's why you guys were fighting your bolts. Float it in as close as you can 1st and line up the holes. It'll go alot smoother next time too if you keep all your bolts loose until they're all in..
Thats because you didnt make fitting names for them......the more creative you get the tighter you close their mouths.....ive never heard a nickname for more then 1 day......" oh you wanna fight now that YOU have a nickname , may as well prove you can dish it out but cant take it ......snowflake.....hey they dont allow children on site better grow the fuck up quick little boy....tomorrow is coming fast , make sure you wear your big boy pants".........nickname people usually cant talk , they try to do it all with one word.......
These guys are the connectors a detail crew will come behind them and plumb up the columns with a transit and then they will tighten the bolts with a impact it’s all about getting as much iron hung in a day
@@philanthropist5005 well how are scab non Union workers paid,by the piece? Union Ironworker connecters get as much iron connected per shift correctly and safely and that is how the contractors are able to bid on jobs
When signaling the crane it's always advisable to keep your eye on the center of gravity which is the headache ball so you don't have to do a bunch of unnecessary crane movements, fly it in 1 shot deal.
Most experienced signal men watch the boom tip as the block or ball will be moving around until the operator catches his drift. Loads hang plumb. Guys that watch the block or ball are usually calling signals a bit off. But to be honest the crane operator is always making adjustments regardless of the signals coming in. That request to boom up hold load while tools were in the iron is one of the more frustrating calls. All in all this was well done. I personally enjoy working with iron workers the most. (433 or 416) they are the most comfortable tradesmen around cranes. IUOE Local 12 SoCal baby!
As a crane operator, I don’t like when my iron workers have a pin in or a bolt in and then want me to boom up and hold load. 😡 Get it close then handle your business.
@@sas5177 exactly. To boom and hold the load you have to get one going first. When it’s pined your either going to drop the load or pull too much weight… and then there’s the why. Get the load lined up first lol. But we deal with it every day. Out setting K Rail in SoCal at the moment. 210 and 605. Fun times
I did Red Iron with 808 out of Florida for 9 years after separating from the Corp, for some odd reason I was a natural at it!!....Looking at this brings alot of old memories back, I don't miss the work, but miss the physical challenges/Skillset you gotta have to be a good connector along with working with real MEN!!...I don't miss pulling 100's of feet of airline walking 6 inch girts to rattle bolts or stuffing holes all day long, or laying Bar-joist and then the hated corrugated sheets afterwards occasionally getting flash burn by tacking them down!!....Connecting was the most dangerous, but it also was the most satisfying part and earned you some breaks in between flying steel!!....Lost a great friend while connecting once do to the ground guy rigging the Xmas tree wrong with an under rated strap, Mitch had a bad habit of un-Lanyard himself from the column, so as to be able swing around around I'm guessing to snag his end with his sleever bar = BAD MOMENT of CHOICE!!....when the 2nd from the top strap broke, the other 3 pieces went down yanking him with it while gripping the sleever bar with the falling steel, and watching in disbelief as he head dove 5 stories DOWN!!😳😞.....his name was "Molecule Mitch" miss ya Bro!!....The best IRON I ever worked with was bridge iron, the I-beams had 13 foot webs = huge FKN curved pieces, they were walked in place with two "4100 Manitowok Crawlers"....The splice connections on these beams took 72 bolts to make with a plate on each side!!...Bridge construction goes alot slower and is alot less stress, unless you FK UP!!....I noticed these guys didn't use their bull pins and beaters after sucking the connection together to make those last two stubborn holes??....just their spuds and a sleever to jinx it in!!...Oh well, to each their own🤨....Good video thanks for sharing!!👍
Back in the day we called them "Joe McGee" , the saying went, you can tell the Joe's by their fingers and toes. If you have ever seen an old AB safety handbook it's in there. Are those guys "Snakes"
My pusher did replace the connectors 15 minutes before lunchtime. He told them “ if you wanna smoke and talk do it your own time”. He told me to “eat a light lunch, you’re going up”. The early 80’s was a different time for sure. LU# 272
Sure does not look like a qualified weld gap! That gap looks well over 1" and should be closer to a 1/4" gap for that backing bar. Even with the floor loads above I don't see that gap closing to meet the AISC prequalified weld in the 9th edition on page 4-161 (weld B-u4A) 3/8" gap is for a 30° bevel and it looks to be a 45°. Feel bad for the guy that is going to be welding that joint
Because when making raw steel beams, it's hard to get it perfectly flush, and in the fabrication world if it doesnt effect anything but looks (that nobody but the builders will ever see), then why bother? Also to the people arguing about the gap, welcome to working in the field. Nothing lines up to the code book, nothing will be "in spec", you work with what you have and as long as it doesn't make the building unsafe it's fine. You see it in Pipe all the time, code book strictly says, "Pipe root needs to be beveled and open the same size all around", and yet fitters come to work drunk and fit the opening crooked, so the top is 1/32nd opening, and the bottom is 1/8th. You work with what you can and the job comes out exactly the same and passes Xray all the same (albeit annoying because you had to deal with extra work that was more frustrating and took more time)
Harnesses have been standard PPE for 20 years now. If you don't like heights, stay out of hanging iron, it's not for you. There are fabrication shops that need fitters and welders, there's always something to do.
What up hard worken dude I'm Brian from St Louis chat me back brother you guys have built America for decades Way ta go brother I just retired a few years ago worked for 40 year's two jobs 7 days a week I literally worked my ass off can send ya a pic I ain't got one
Those guys need a smaller version of that wrench 🔧 or maybe one with a shorter handle or maybe a battery impact even though thell have to change out the battery every so often
35 yrs as an ironworker i can tell you their spuds size is just what you want..you need the leverage in most cases. impact would be nice but when you are connecting steel you have 2 spuds a sleever bar a pouch full of bolts and most of the time at least a 4 pound hammer. ( i carried a 6 lb my self) and your harness. so that alone is about 60 lbs. so an impact the size you need is just added weight you really dont want to carry around all day.
What does "boom up and hold the load" mean? Is it just an instruction to keep it in one place? And why was there such a big gap after they spliced in the other beam? Is this done for structural reasons?
He is signaling the crane operator to raise the boom of the crane and at the same time keep the load at elevation so the load is moving but the elevation is not changing
Boom up hold load keeps the load at a constant elevation, while bringing it closer (boom down let's it go away from you). The large gap with chamfered (beveled) edge is so the welder can build up his weld with many layered, parallel passes. The welds are stronger than the base metal.
I'm a UK steel erector we are way faster but we don't climb the steel nomore.I am intrigued in how you pulled the line to release the attachment from the column to the crane how does that work because we use "pinkys" or similar
When your erecting 80 to 100 pieces a day I don’t think that your doing that in the UK. These guys were not a regular Raising Gang . When the tension comes off your loaf you have a second Wire Rope on a pin that runs though the shackle rope tied to the eyelet. If you don’t know how to rig it your not doing it faster or safer in the UK. I’ve worked in building trades since 1975 served an Apprenticeship in the Ironworkers Union and Retired as a Business Agent. These men are the Hardest Working and Best Train of any Industry.
Hand tools don't run out of hydro. Power tools are heavier and harder to keep from dropping. You try climbing around with an extra 2+ pounds on your hip. Makes it more dangerous so hand tools are always preferable
Sleever bars , spoon bar , alignment bar, rude dog, most Union Ironworker term is sleever bar. Wrenches are alignment wrench we commonly call them spud wrenches.
I metal stamped my initials on my spud wrenches and would never use one that had welding on them cause they could break in the extreme cold. We would usually shut down when the wind chill got down to-45 degrees.
take it from a man thats never even seen iron work being done in person, that aint how you put shit together. creating useless tension that fights you the whole time, trying to start bolts while the column is still crooked, preventing the crane from making adjustments for you, rounding off the threads by whacking them in place, the only thing you did right was loosening the bottom bolts and remembering righty tighty over 50% of the time.
Never seen connecters this slow. Being a retired member of local #7, out of Boston. Never make it a local union, working at that pace. We always knew we got paid for putting up steel, not for it laying on the ground. Absolutely a joke, watching this video.
is there any specific reason they use regular wrenches instead of ratches, it seems like it would make their job a lot easier. Ill admit that I have no experience or knowledge of this work, but im curious
Because spud wrenches are used to just connect or stuff holes with rudimentary tighting ONLY, a crew comes after you to stuff the remaining holes and rattle the connections tight, and a ratchet would wear out the connectors and the ratchet itself in no time at all, and be useless up there when your connecting, simpler the tool the less likely of failure and better safety with production!!....I speak as a former Iron Worker/Connector!!
@@pinit8752 ....NEVER EVER saw a connector/Iron Head with/use what your talking about....I've seen spuds with crescent end heads, but they are NEVER used in connecting or tighting RED IRON!!
@@sidewaysvertical2138 35 yr jiw here. i have seen ratchets guts fail, and that is the last thing you want when your using all you weight to get to that piece to suck up and your 60 feet in the air.
Chicagoing it is hammering the bolt in. New Yorking it in is turning the bolt in like a screw. Both fuck the treads but you get it done. New York just has a little more class to it.
Old superintendent. So of course I saw the welder walk right under where you guys were connecting..... At first I laughed. Than it was like guy is a certified welder on a decent project..... Where is his head at he has got to have some experience ? Man impaled through neck with falling spud wrench.
@@griznatle Still doesn't matter if you don't have anywhere to put them. And whose gonna tether a 5 lb impact to their belt when the battery is gonna be dead before lunch time. When you're up in the air 5 stories, you want to be as light as possible.
@@MyMomsADadNow true, if only someone invented a holster for impact guns. Like, a gun holster. Also batteries are very impressive these days, sounds like you are talking from inexperience.
@@griznatle tether, holster, carrying, it doesn't matter. It's still oversized, cumbersome, and unnecessary. And I do speak from experience as a mechanic. I use milwaukee impacts daily and I can tell you for a fact, if I was an Ironworker, I sure as hell would not want that thing pulling my pants down all day
If you notice the piece that is being connected to the already existing column below it has a bevel cut on them. That shows that the will have full pin welds on either side of the columns as well as the bolts being “snapped” by a tension control gun (aka a lejune gun but that’s a whole other amount of information) after the weld is done an inspector will come and X-ray the welds to check for any imperfections.
Yea these guys are the connectors a detail crew will come behind them and plumb the columns using a transit and then they will tighten all of the bolts with a impact
Terrible connectors, slow, column was still out of position when you landed it.yorkin the bolt through the hole.you fought that jump column, because it was out of position.
Put the connecting bar in his partners face. Telling the operator to cable down and boom up when the operator probably can't see. No drift pins, no hammer.
@@EricCampbellUAV Tell that guy! You need pins,bars,beaters, come alongs ,porta powers to get the job done. The bigger and heavier it gets, the more it takes to get it made.
Hey tradesmen you can critisize all day long but these young men are skilled and good at our craft so what if it took them 12 or 14 minutes if it were easy youd still be doing it give em props their not on welfare or stealing honest work honest pay WORK UNION LIVE UNION DIE UNION
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I loved connecting iron! You could see that you had done work to make America better every day! Finally got tired of living out of a suitcase a long way from home. Hung up my belt in 1982 making $18.75/hr plus full medical insurance and a buck/hour vacation pay.
Went back to ranching with my Dad. Raised my sons to be excellent cowboys and helped feed America! God bless all the excellent guys in Local 10 I had the pleasure to work with!!!
Sounds like a good life to me brother 🇺🇸
I use to draw the plans for those beams and structure, got tired of it, so now i am welding them! So thank you for installing them :)
C'est tu payant souder?
@@Smoke-zc2de beaucoup de compagnie on un salaire de départ de 25$ de l'heure et plus. C'est très en demande aussi. Donc c'est un bon choix a mon avis!
I draw plans for structures and am really needing a new profession. Ha
@@alreddy13 the office job was not good for me. Yes welding is harder physically, hotter environments most of the time but I still feel much better after a 10 hours shift in the shop compared to 8 hours sitting on my ass!
Good for you
I just found these and can't stop watching. I have massive respect for this work it takes special kind of person to do this. I'm clenching my legs like I'm up there too 😅 stay safe!
I worked in 2 steel mills, totaling 11 yrs, and it’s pretty cool to see work like this. Furnace, LMS&Caster, although our finish product wasn’t beams for structure, it was still awesome to work with hot liquid steel at 2800 degrees. I live in Central Jersey, and if any company is hiring for this kind of work, you may leave a message. I will always have high amount of respect for guys, and gals, who work with steel in this fashion. Cool video
This is honestly the slowest splice connection I’ve seen in a while . 14 minutes it’s a lifetime
Seriously what the fuck are they doing??
Post yours, Dennis
NO DOUBT !! NEW YORK THAT BOLT !!
HaHa You must be American , in Canada ,we would say to "Montreal " the bolt .@@richardg.santana1989
@@richardg.santana1989 tot it was Chicago
I used to weld and drill all the holes for those splice plates, those splice plates are heavy and dangerous. hats off to you for doing 30 ft up
nicest structural guy i have ever heard a gentleman... nice guys like that on the job site make my day better
Reminded me of my first day in the shipyard!
Glad the welder below wasn’t struck with a fallen object, he’s looking up in bewilderment haha
One of the connectors told him to kick rocks.
i do this every day so its fun to call out your call outs as i watch the videos, well done!
Just think some asshole thinks these guys make too much money! Hats off to the hard working Americans building our country. You deserve a hot lunch everyday and big check every week!
Take your spud out of the connection before signaling the crane, that's how you get unnecessary tension, that's why you guys were fighting your bolts. Float it in as close as you can 1st and line up the holes. It'll go alot smoother next time too if you keep all your bolts loose until they're all in..
Not sure these guys are the learning type.
@@measure2ice712 for sure not
Feel like that's common sense
@@zstang01 common sense isn't very common tho
@@navajorezathlete1202 very true
I used it rock a full brim until all the guys on the job called me “piss pot” 😂
Never understood the idea of a connector weaing a full brim hat, you can't see what's over your head as easy
full brims are for bridges and rod busters and electricans.... even when I worked the rod patch and bridges I roll with fibremetal brim back
Hey if the job is getting done who gives a fuck
Got me a full brim when I graduated into rigging. Keeps the sun off you a lil more. Not as much shade when you're away from the structure
Thats because you didnt make fitting names for them......the more creative you get the tighter you close their mouths.....ive never heard a nickname for more then 1 day......" oh you wanna fight now that YOU have a nickname , may as well prove you can dish it out but cant take it ......snowflake.....hey they dont allow children on site better grow the fuck up quick little boy....tomorrow is coming fast , make sure you wear your big boy pants".........nickname people usually cant talk , they try to do it all with one word.......
10:41 "We got 7 out of 8 of them...". And this is why I don't do things like the rides on top of the space needle in Vegas.
Would it be impractical to have a Milwaukee 1/2 impact for snuggling up the bolts to help draw it in?
That would be too fast lol
these union boys are paid by the hour
These guys are the connectors a detail crew will come behind them and plumb up the columns with a transit and then they will tighten the bolts with a impact it’s all about getting as much iron hung in a day
Connectors don't carry cordless impacts around on big jobs.
@@philanthropist5005 well how are scab non Union workers paid,by the piece? Union Ironworker connecters get as much iron connected per shift correctly and safely and that is how the contractors are able to bid on jobs
Don't worry fellas. Detail Gang will get it.
When signaling the crane it's always advisable to keep your eye on the center of gravity which is the headache ball so you don't have to do a bunch of unnecessary crane movements, fly it in 1 shot deal.
Most experienced signal men watch the boom tip as the block or ball will be moving around until the operator catches his drift. Loads hang plumb. Guys that watch the block or ball are usually calling signals a bit off.
But to be honest the crane operator is always making adjustments regardless of the signals coming in. That request to boom up hold load while tools were in the iron is one of the more frustrating calls. All in all this was well done. I personally enjoy working with iron workers the most. (433 or 416) they are the most comfortable tradesmen around cranes. IUOE Local 12 SoCal baby!
As a crane operator, I don’t like when my iron workers have a pin in or a bolt in and then want me to boom up and hold load. 😡 Get it close then handle your business.
@@sas5177 exactly. To boom and hold the load you have to get one going first. When it’s pined your either going to drop the load or pull too much weight… and then there’s the why. Get the load lined up first lol. But we deal with it every day. Out setting K Rail in SoCal at the moment. 210 and 605. Fun times
One car Charlie that hoe....
I second this language
Local 49
My Grandfather & Father were both Ironworkers. I think it was Local 454. Not sure if it’s there anymore.
Well that wasnt the worst job of calling the crane I have seen in 20 years but if crooked steel gets you off.....get some.
Get these guys their money. Fuckin amatuer hour right there
Slow as molasses!!! You're fired!!!
Nice fellas however they are the slowest connectors I've seen since my time in the oil patch.
There getting paid an hour Buddy
I did Red Iron with 808 out of Florida for 9 years after separating from the Corp, for some odd reason I was a natural at it!!....Looking at this brings alot of old memories back, I don't miss the work, but miss the physical challenges/Skillset you gotta have to be a good connector along with working with real MEN!!...I don't miss pulling 100's of feet of airline walking 6 inch girts to rattle bolts or stuffing holes all day long, or laying Bar-joist and then the hated corrugated sheets afterwards occasionally getting flash burn by tacking them down!!....Connecting was the most dangerous, but it also was the most satisfying part and earned you some breaks in between flying steel!!....Lost a great friend while connecting once do to the ground guy rigging the Xmas tree wrong with an under rated strap, Mitch had a bad habit of un-Lanyard himself from the column, so as to be able swing around around I'm guessing to snag his end with his sleever bar = BAD MOMENT of CHOICE!!....when the 2nd from the top strap broke, the other 3 pieces went down yanking him with it while gripping the sleever bar with the falling steel, and watching in disbelief as he head dove 5 stories DOWN!!😳😞.....his name was "Molecule Mitch" miss ya Bro!!....The best IRON I ever worked with was bridge iron, the I-beams had 13 foot webs = huge FKN curved pieces, they were walked in place with two "4100 Manitowok Crawlers"....The splice connections on these beams took 72 bolts to make with a plate on each side!!...Bridge construction goes alot slower and is alot less stress, unless you FK UP!!....I noticed these guys didn't use their bull pins and beaters after sucking the connection together to make those last two stubborn holes??....just their spuds and a sleever to jinx it in!!...Oh well, to each their own🤨....Good video thanks for sharing!!👍
Whatever... Lol
Are the bolts tightened to a specific specification or just sort of hand tightened and hope you don't have wimps tightening them?
After the adjoining beams are installed plumb up cables are installed, and since these are TS bolts they will be torqued until the bolt tabs snap off.
@@1Chuck4U2C thank you
yall aint far at all from me wild i probably saw yous guys working plenty of times
So who does the final tourque on those bolts? Can’t believe they are just hand wrench tight?
how often do you drop your wrench and hit the welders in the head down below?
Apprentice here.... yes
Once!
Certainly only once for the guy below!
When I connected i always used “Squids” bungee’s connected to your tools and tied off to your harness
And this is why I’m glad I’m an engineer. I’ll stick to my fear of heights and appreciation of my cubicle 😂😂😂
I'm an engineer as well and feel the same way, but I also feel like these are the guys doing the REAL work so I have a lot of respect for them!
My Forman would have had new connectors by lunchtime
Back in the day we called them "Joe McGee" , the saying went, you can tell the Joe's by their fingers and toes. If you have ever seen an old AB safety handbook it's in there. Are those guys "Snakes"
My pusher did replace the connectors 15 minutes before lunchtime. He told them “ if you wanna smoke and talk do it your own time”. He told me to “eat a light lunch, you’re going up”. The early 80’s was a different time for sure. LU# 272
I’m addicted to work, I would love to come do a couple days doing this, I’m a welder but have done bits of steel work and steel sheeting ,
These guys are pro , great job 👍👍👍
Damn detail crew. Can't you see there are men at work up here.
That’s got to be the biggest Joe OTC bar I’ve ever seen in my 40 years, way to go on new yorking those bolts…
Line em kid, the crew needs another bump lol
I work as an Ironworker local 550 for 7 years 1981-1988 I would be run off taking this much time making a splice connection 😬
Should of posted the video where you actually got it done quick lol
How come you use Manual wrenches and not power wrenches?
Curious, why don’t the beams sit flush together on the ends?
Sure does not look like a qualified weld gap! That gap looks well over 1" and should be closer to a 1/4" gap for that backing bar. Even with the floor loads above I don't see that gap closing to meet the AISC prequalified weld in the 9th edition on page 4-161 (weld B-u4A) 3/8" gap is for a 30° bevel and it looks to be a 45°. Feel bad for the guy that is going to be welding that joint
As you go higher the columns get thinner. They are not beams
Because when making raw steel beams, it's hard to get it perfectly flush, and in the fabrication world if it doesnt effect anything but looks (that nobody but the builders will ever see), then why bother? Also to the people arguing about the gap, welcome to working in the field. Nothing lines up to the code book, nothing will be "in spec", you work with what you have and as long as it doesn't make the building unsafe it's fine.
You see it in Pipe all the time, code book strictly says, "Pipe root needs to be beveled and open the same size all around", and yet fitters come to work drunk and fit the opening crooked, so the top is 1/32nd opening, and the bottom is 1/8th.
You work with what you can and the job comes out exactly the same and passes Xray all the same (albeit annoying because you had to deal with extra work that was more frustrating and took more time)
@@bernardmauge8613 My bad, You’re right. 👍🏻 Beams=horizontal and columns=vertical
@@DrCranberry 👍🏻 Thanks
You guys use harnesses?? Or knowing how we are in 2022 what do you guys do for the ones that are afraid of heights but what to work?
Harnesses have been standard PPE for 20 years now. If you don't like heights, stay out of hanging iron, it's not for you. There are fabrication shops that need fitters and welders, there's always something to do.
What up hard worken dude I'm Brian from St Louis chat me back brother you guys have built America for decades Way ta go brother I just retired a few years ago worked for 40 year's two jobs 7 days a week I literally worked my ass off can send ya a pic I ain't got one
-I got ten inches
-You got wut? lol
Rumor
Respect old Local 401 Out of Philadelphia,Pa,
Those guys need a smaller version of that wrench 🔧 or maybe one with a shorter handle or maybe a battery impact even though thell have to change out the battery every so often
35 yrs as an ironworker i can tell you their spuds size is just what you want..you need the leverage in most cases. impact would be nice but when you are connecting steel you have 2 spuds a sleever bar a pouch full of bolts and most of the time at least a 4 pound hammer. ( i carried a 6 lb my self) and your harness. so that alone is about 60 lbs. so an impact the size you need is just added weight you really dont want to carry around all day.
@@mikeakers2043 let em know
Problem with thinking you know how to do the work is you really don't know how to do it till your hands are on it
What does "boom up and hold the load" mean? Is it just an instruction to keep it in one place?
And why was there such a big gap after they spliced in the other beam? Is this done for structural reasons?
He is signaling the crane operator to raise the boom of the crane and at the same time keep the load at elevation so the load is moving but the elevation is not changing
Boom up hold load keeps the load at a constant elevation, while bringing it closer (boom down let's it go away from you).
The large gap with chamfered (beveled) edge is so the welder can build up his weld with many layered, parallel passes.
The welds are stronger than the base metal.
@@peteywheatstraws4909 I forgot these get welded together lol.
As a union ironworker who does this shit all the time...holy fuck that was painful to watch. Slow as fuck. Terrible signals. Too slow for my local.
Talk about making a job alot harder then its supposed to be
That was painful to watch!!
Absolutely 🤣
I'm a UK steel erector we are way faster but we don't climb the steel nomore.I am intrigued in how you pulled the line to release the attachment from the column to the crane how does that work because we use "pinkys" or similar
When your erecting 80 to 100 pieces a day I don’t think that your doing that in the UK. These guys were not a regular Raising Gang . When the tension comes off your loaf you have a second Wire Rope on a pin that runs though the shackle rope tied to the eyelet. If you don’t know how to rig it your not doing it faster or safer in the UK. I’ve worked in building trades since 1975 served an Apprenticeship in the Ironworkers Union and Retired as a Business Agent. These men are the Hardest Working and Best Train of any Industry.
@@1Chuck4U2C. 100 percent correct!
No freakin impact you guys really taking your sweet time
They struggle just from putting the bolt through. Having a hard time putting the wrench one. Takes them 5 seconds to get it on the head.
Power tools require the electrical union workers to be on site. They were not that day.
@@STONEDay you think those are union ironworkers???
Hand tools don't run out of hydro. Power tools are heavier and harder to keep from dropping. You try climbing around with an extra 2+ pounds on your hip. Makes it more dangerous so hand tools are always preferable
@@STONEDay You are reading something into this that isn't there. Any of the trades can use power tools.
Why beams and columns do not paint?
Guy has the radio. Then there's some dummy walking under the pick. Genius!!!
What are those bars called that are temporally inserted into holes to hold the element for bolts to be placed?
oh, it must be a structural wrench
Sleever bars , spoon bar , alignment bar, rude dog, most Union Ironworker term is sleever bar. Wrenches are alignment wrench we commonly call them spud wrenches.
I metal stamped my initials on my spud wrenches and would never use one that had welding on them cause they could break in the extreme cold. We would usually shut down when the wind chill got down to-45 degrees.
"Sleever bar " sounds like the name of a pub .@@1Chuck4U2C
take it from a man thats never even seen iron work being done in person, that aint how you put shit together. creating useless tension that fights you the whole time, trying to start bolts while the column is still crooked, preventing the crane from making adjustments for you, rounding off the threads by whacking them in place, the only thing you did right was loosening the bottom bolts and remembering righty tighty over 50% of the time.
you almost cant round off 8.8 bolts, shit ive fit up some fucked up stuff with 8.8s
@@rotam8680 I'll give you that one, those things are basically tool steel.
@@nicholasjohnson9694 strong as fuck
Never seen connecters this slow.
Being a retired member of local #7, out of Boston.
Never make it a local union, working at that pace.
We always knew we got paid for putting up steel, not for it laying on the ground.
Absolutely a joke, watching this video.
Good job brothers
Fun job
Brings back the good times when I use to work for t.i c ...
is there any specific reason they use regular wrenches instead of ratches, it seems like it would make their job a lot easier. Ill admit that I have no experience or knowledge of this work, but im curious
Yes there is the pointed end is also used to align the holes
They make ratchets with the pointed end
Because spud wrenches are used to just connect or stuff holes with rudimentary tighting ONLY, a crew comes after you to stuff the remaining holes and rattle the connections tight, and a ratchet would wear out the connectors and the ratchet itself in no time at all, and be useless up there when your connecting, simpler the tool the less likely of failure and better safety with production!!....I speak as a former Iron Worker/Connector!!
@@pinit8752 ....NEVER EVER saw a connector/Iron Head with/use what your talking about....I've seen spuds with crescent end heads, but they are NEVER used in connecting or tighting RED IRON!!
@@sidewaysvertical2138 35 yr jiw here. i have seen ratchets guts fail, and that is the last thing you want when your using all you weight to get to that piece to suck up and your 60 feet in the air.
Get the fuck out of the way Bob!!! Lol
Hi
How do you do
Pardon you are hammering the bolt the thread of the becom damage
Thank you
What do you think of your bro i.w...doing solar panel farms
What ever you guys get paid it ain’t enough ! Great work …
Enough to pay the bills and enjoy a long cold beer after a hard days work!
There boss might disagree. You could easily set 3 columns in that amount of time if you had your act together
Define “chicagoing” and “new yorking”. Never heard those terms before.
new yorking is slamming a bolt through the hole when it wont proerly fit.
@@Powderhound-cb8pb and im guessing "chicagoing it" is shooting it ?
@@Powderhound-cb8pb Well learn something new every day
@@matiasdiazduran5806 Ha good one man!
Chicagoing it is hammering the bolt in. New Yorking it in is turning the bolt in like a screw. Both fuck the treads but you get it done. New York just has a little more class to it.
Get these clowns their money.
Send em back to the deck gang.
I weld these all the time! 💵💵
Did y'all ever get that fourth bolt in? My heart sank when one of you said, "Well, we got 7 out of 8 of 'em."
Old superintendent. So of course I saw the welder walk right under where you guys were connecting..... At first I laughed. Than it was like guy is a certified welder on a decent project..... Where is his head at he has got to have some experience ? Man impaled through neck with falling spud wrench.
Like watching paint dry! Hurry up!!!!
"you got what?"
Man I miss worksite banter.
Are there not tourqe specifications for bolts just curious?
The bolts are A 425 and are torqued with a specific tool and it twists off the end of live end of bolt when it reaches spec
That 1” spud is huge. I widened my 7/8” to 1”
He'll I've had to widen my 1" to 1 1/4.
@@Dorian-Grey so you open a 1 inch soft wrench to a 3/4 hard
7/8th hard measure out to 1"7/16 on a tape
It's 1" hard bolt so the spud wrench is 1" 5/8 opening
Why the fuck didn’t he grab the line
In case it yanked him off his perch due to wind. They are daredevils but smart ones
@@JohnDoe-ks9xx lmao in case the 1 mph wind knocked him off you gotta be crazy🤣🤣His partner is dragging him
@@JohnDoe-ks9xx he literally says in the vid “there’s no wind at all don’t even see a leaf moving”
why the big gap between beams
Its a welded column connection.
Gap is necessary to improve fitment, as a welder that gap can be filled easily
GerrrYyyy. My man. Ding fkn ding. Cut it LOOOOoOose brOoo.
What local are you guys in? And what state. I’m in local 86 Seattle. Nice video brother
Did you take long enough for this piece holy smokes!!!!
Tell tale is the tack weld, this is a fucking movie
Is there a reason you guys don’s use impact wrenches ?
probably too heavy to lug around up there
@@javajav3004 i disagree. Milwaukee has incredible mid range 1/2 wrenches that are very light. And i say that being a Makita man.
@@griznatle Still doesn't matter if you don't have anywhere to put them. And whose gonna tether a 5 lb impact to their belt when the battery is gonna be dead before lunch time. When you're up in the air 5 stories, you want to be as light as possible.
@@MyMomsADadNow true, if only someone invented a holster for impact guns. Like, a gun holster.
Also batteries are very impressive these days, sounds like you are talking from inexperience.
@@griznatle tether, holster, carrying, it doesn't matter. It's still oversized, cumbersome, and unnecessary. And I do speak from experience as a mechanic. I use milwaukee impacts daily and I can tell you for a fact, if I was an Ironworker, I sure as hell would not want that thing pulling my pants down all day
What does the AB stand for on dude's hard hat?
Allman Brothers
Just curious, you cant use an impact gun to tighten the nuts? And are the beams only supported by those 8 bolts, without welding?
If you notice the piece that is being connected to the already existing column below it has a bevel cut on them. That shows that the will have full pin welds on either side of the columns as well as the bolts being “snapped” by a tension control gun (aka a lejune gun but that’s a whole other amount of information) after the weld is done an inspector will come and X-ray the welds to check for any imperfections.
Yea these guys are the connectors a detail crew will come behind them and plumb the columns using a transit and then they will tighten all of the bolts with a impact
Why no power tools?
Terrible connectors, slow, column was still out of position when you landed it.yorkin the bolt through the hole.you fought that jump column, because it was out of position.
Почему у вас гаечные ключи не приспособлены для вращения гаек в таких условиях?
Good job 👍🙂💪
more that 3 mins is too long , those old timers would be crying to hurry up🤔
I use to do this when I didn't have any skills
First day?
All bolts loose until all in
Holy shit that was hard to watch! Where’s your bull pin and sledge hammer? Cordless impact? You guys did not get trained right lol
this is how RATS hang iron
no real rats dont tie off
Hard work
Why don’t they just have light weight m12 stubby to snug those up or something instead of the wrenches. Takes longer and wrenches are annoying
Rooks!
bro you sound exactly like walterific lmfaoo
Put the connecting bar in his partners face. Telling the operator to cable down and boom up when the operator probably can't see. No drift pins, no hammer.
Real connectors don't need drift pins or bull pins. Put in a few bolts and let the bolt stuffers come behind and finish it off.
@@navajorezathlete1202 you never worked on a bridge
@@EricCampbellUAV we only have a few bridges in the desert
@@EricCampbellUAV Tell that guy! You need pins,bars,beaters, come alongs ,porta powers to get the job done. The bigger and heavier it gets, the more it takes to get it made.
Isn't there a better way in this day and age? You would think.....
Yes it is. In norway we weld plates on the collums. And only use bolts to do the connection.
@@ktmturbo5836 Umm did you not watch the video? They bolt in together to start, once everything fits properly then they are welded...
Why is that all rosty? Shouldn't be blasted and painted first?
is this Gerry Martin??
Hey tradesmen you can critisize all day long but these young men are skilled and good at our craft so what if it took them 12 or 14 minutes if it were easy youd still be doing it give em props their not on welfare or stealing honest work honest pay WORK UNION LIVE UNION DIE UNION
Wow 4 bolts
Fight it fair boys