Dry land kayak roll practice technique.
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- Опубликовано: 29 мар 2013
- Here's a dry land kayak rolling practice technique that you can do almost anywhere and stay completely dry. This is just the beginning of the sweep roll movement, but it is arguably the most important part to get right.
Remember to follow the paddle with your eyes from the very beginning to the very end. If you don't open your eyes, then follow the paddle with your face.
Good luck, and I hope this helps.
I also found two other RUclips videos showing the same technique in slightly different ways. Both of these demonstrate using this for the "C to C" roll, but they should be helpful regardless of which roll you prefer.
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I know of two brand new paddlers - never been in a kayak or on a river before - who last summer hit multiple combat rolls on their first outing after being coached in this technique. I also have a friend who had the most messed up failed roll ever. I taught him how to practice this and he went home and practiced it on his deck. Using nothing other than this technique, he fixed his roll completely on his own. He now has a reliable roll, where before he was about to give up on kayaking.
For whatever reason I psyche myself out on my offside roll. I want to take my brain out of the equation. This looks like it will help. Mimic my exact movements on either side of the boat.
That forward facing arm acts like a martial art block, less chance of smacking your head on any incoming obstacles like rocks or underwater branches as well, good explanation.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
This video taught me how to roll in essence... that and about 14 attempts at the bottom of a weir. I would highly advise giving it ago if you can't roll yet.
Thank You , Finally someone who actually explains the roll in detail on dry land ! This makes every move easier to understand and apply . You are a teacher !
Ron Gentle Thanks, Ron! I hope it helps. Remember, just watching this doesn’t do much. Practice the correct motion so it’s automatic when you need it.
This is the technique that made the difference in getting my roll. I had been diving my paddle and practicing that exact movement he talks about in the beginning of the video. I just didn't understand what was going wrong; my paddle didn't stay on top of the water! Well I saw this, went out to the backyard and did it a few dozen times. Viola, went to the river and nailed my roll.
Erin Clay fantastic. Good incentive
Excellent. I know your comment is old, but I hope you're out running your favorite rivers with ease! Glad this helped.
You give me hope. I'm in my 5th year of kayaking and still no roll. I want to turn it around.
My exact experience too diving the paddle
My partner "had" been working on her roll for a while before we gave this technique a shot. The second night at the lake after trying this... success!!!! She said what this did for her, a bit of an epiphany moment, was that it pieced together what a total body movement a roll is. It showed just how active the lower body is and basically what a hip snap feels like. The smile on her face was EPIC! Thanks for the tips and great video, I highly recommend this exercise to anyone who keeps being told "snap your hips!!!" and has no idea what the other person means.
That's so great to hear!! Glad it helped, and thanks for letting me know!!
I took a rolling class, and still didn't/don't understand what snapping hips means, and I didn't get to roll except maybe once. We practiced snapping hips a lot by holding one hand on the edge of the pool, but that didn't help me, as I still didn't/don't understand it. I'll try this.
@@thomasbrooklyn1820 You don't throw yourself over the boat. The "hip snap" is to push/throw the boat under you. Maybe just different imagery, but an important difference.
I tried this in the yard, and now I can't get up. The dog is licking me. Help.
Best comment ever! Well, I just hope you picked up the dog poop in the yard before you tried this! ;-)
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I got bad news for your buddy the licking is just foreplay
my dog does not worry about foreplay , but good demo, thanks PM
Well, still can type and watch videos, so your good
Excellent tutorial, simple and to the point, after practicing this at home on the floor then went out and got the roll after my 3rd attempt, this is after bad advice like the begining of your video pulling the paddle under the kayak, frustrated and had given up on my roll untill I came across this video.
I'm now using this method to coach other people, its amazing how quick people understand and pick up their roll using this training technique, simple, brilliant and thanks.
I have been diving my paddle in the EXACT way you describe, not understanding why. This helped make so much sense. I cannot wait to try! Tysssssm
This is a brilliant technique to clearly understand the mechanics of a roll and how it works. It really helped me with teaching newbies who can't roll. Thanks for that!
Thanks for being a great instructor. Will start practicing on dry land this week. Tried practicing in the sea, but was a bit overwhelmed with everything for the first time.
I'm just learning and I love this dry land technique for learning the basic moves.
Got my first WW Kayak 2 months ago..first try prior to seeing this video I failed awfully!!!!!!! Watched ur video tried the dry practice now i got my roll 100percent in flat water......thank you so much I feel like ur video did it for me!!!! Ur a great guy for taking the time to do that for people!!!!!!!!
Jordan Fields I'm really glad it helped!! Good luck!
Definitely one of the best videos for showing people what actually happens when you roll! This shows how important the sweep is! I will show this to those learning to roll in the future..
Thankyou so so much I've learnt so much from this video and I'm an intermediate so having the nerve to attempt the roll on my own with no one around as always been an issue but I'm happy to try and give it a go now
Much appreciated
Excellent, Carl. Good luck, and get some help if you need it. Most often a set of knowledgable eyes watching can be very helpful.
Best illustration I have seen. Thanks so much. 😅😅😅
Glad you like it, and I hope it helps!
Thank you!! So important. I try to tell folks when I see them practicing the motion from an upright position. Your video is a perfect visual!
Great! They need to really grasp that their motion is pulling the paddle to the bottom of the river. No bueno! Thanks, and keep up the good work, Jessa! 😎
Nice vid and good tips. Hope your neighbors know about kayak and rolling because they may call 911 or the local psychiatric unit if they see you through the fence.
unless he moved in yesterday and hasn't met them yet, i bet they've heard alllllll about kayaking
@@UrsaMusic A mate of mine was practicing a hand roll - not always very elegantly. Next thing he knew a member of the public had waded into the water to "save" him, albeit with his keys and phone in his pocket. Rather awkward all round.
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The point made about how paddlers practice the wrong move at the start of the video is so true . Great video . Easy to understand and bound to improve rolling ability . Thanks for posting .
Very Goodyear explanação. This Was the first time I saw anybody explaining out of water. Congratulations.
So many people are going to do that bad dry land technique in the beginning of the video, and that is a hard very habit to break once it's ingrained. So, while this demonstration may not be perfect, I know this technique has value to some paddlers. It really does help to ingrain the body memory of what to do once you're upside down in the water.
tremendously helps my roll, that elbow pivoting is the key.
I have used this technique to teach all the beginners i have coached, and it is by far the best way to teach the roll. Have them drill this for 10 minutes, then 10 minutes of high-bracing with their paddle on your shoulder, and they will roll first time. 20 minutes for a solid roll.
That’s great to hear!!
I always thought that.... but never was able to articulate it. super. Video.
FIRST TIME SOMEONE actually pointed out the mistake so vividly.. Well done
Great video, this will definitely help with my off side roll and bomb proof my sweep. Sure will help build confidence after the last swim on the Ocoee! Thanks a bunch
Great! This is one of the most efficient rolling training on hte ground.
This is great.....all teachers should employ this method before getting in the water for lessons
tectonicD Thanks so much. I appreciate your comment!
This helped me visualize the movements involved more than any other video...Thanks
Before I was able to roll back up only by holding the paddle in my right hand on the level of the water. It seems very inconvenient so I wanted to find better way and I hope I will be able to get it tanks to this video. I'll try this out on Wednesday. I can't wait!
Awesome presentation and great ability of transferring your knowledge, thanks!
Looking forward to trying this on the water. I feel it answers some questions on what I was doing wrong the last time I practiced rolling.
Try it on land a bunch of times first so you get the feel of it first. And remember the opposite knee needs to pull the boat under you (so called hip snap). Good luck.
Nice video explaining one of the things I've had a hard time explaining to new boaters above the water.
Thanks for letting me know about your success with this, Alden!! That's awesome!!
Excellent tutorial and great emphasis on the common mistake when learning!
This was incredibly helpful! Thank you!
Fantastic, it's so clear how it's done thanks to your video. 😊👍👍👍👍UK
I have been practicing in a pool for 4 months, tried this method last week and got 9 out of 10 rolls right in my next pool session, thanks.
Hey, that's great !! Thanks for letting me know, and I'm really glad it helped!
Looks like a good way to practice the back deck roll without a paddle. From your last position if you just lean back and snap. I'm going to try it.
one thing I would add is rolling the right wrist forward to make the blade climb out of the water during the sweep. You have decomposed the problem nicely.
Thanks for your comment. You are absolutely right. There is definitely more to this. I mainly wanted to bust the the harmful way of practicing the motion... and pulling the paddle down rather than sweeping. That is the main problem I see when someone is struggling with the roll. You might roll up if your blade angle is off a little, but it's very unlikely you'll roll up if you're pulling the paddle toward the bottom of the river! ;-)
I think that is is awesome! Thanks for the visual!
that's a great video. I will always cheer for you in Korea I'm looking forward to a great video. Have a nice day.
This looks like an awesome method to try. My roll is either 100% or 20% depending on the day. Just the other day, I was rolling like a mad man, the next I was getting t-rescued or swimming.
Great visualisation aid, many thanks.
Simply amazing lol I can do this in my room, even sitting in a chair lol I can feel the drive from the hips and how it's going to be tomorrow
That’s great to hear, Joel. Good luck!!
Thanks for this video! I tried it on land and got it down, Next I will try it in the water.
Glad you like it Lee. I hope it helps.
That was really, really helpful. Thanks!
Great video! Very helpful. Thank you!
Very well, Simple and clear !!
Really nice tutorial! Thank you for sharing
A slight climbing angle on the paddle is important, too.
iviewthetube disagree. Climbing can make paddle dive oddly enough.
Thanks this is great, I can't wait to practice
I have been doing this practice and it was hard at first but I got it now and i can do it a good ammount of times in a row.
this made me get my roll thank you
way to go, James!! thanks for letting me know!!
Glad you like it. I hope it helps.
Thanks going to try this on the weekend
Yes I think u helped me get this down, I tried for the first time yesterday in the pool and the only problem I had is diving the paddle
thanks for your good words. I hope it helps!
Excellent, thank you. I'll try this out and let you know how I go.
WOW GREAT VIDEO VERY EDUCATIONAL
Great, now i can start training. Thank's. :)
Cool technik! Thanks!
Like the vid! Just need a canoe! Nah, I have one, but do I need the dog that can lick me like 'joynthis' who posted, says he has? Sure it would help with any wounds incurred, you know 'Licking the wounds'.... No really, I appreciated the idea of dry land rolling. Don't have swimming pool, rivers here pretty darn cold and all.....I love training so adding some dry land canoe training to all the other types, well variety is the spice of life after all! Keep well, enjoy your canoeing and life and....Good stuff!
Excellent....thanks for including how not to and why
Thanks, really helpful visualization.
Good luck with it. Find a place to practice it off the water, if you can. And remember to bring that knee under you and bring the boat with you.
this helped a lot
thanks
Been having trouble linking up my sweep & hip snap timing, hoping this will help. Thanks for posting!
Emily Hooker Hi Emily. An important element of the so-called hip snap is actually bringing the boat under you with your knee at the same time as you begin your sweep. If you sweep with your right hand forward on the paddle, then you want to drive the right knee under the boat and towards your right side. So, it’s a combo of hip snap and driving that knee that brings the boat back under you. Good luck, and have fun!!
Emily get a foam block or float bag. Get in the kayak and lie on the back deck shoulders flat arm extended out on the water holding the bouyant aid. Slide your back out on to the water surface head looking straight up. The kayak will tilt sideways. Put you other arm straight out above your head/ear also in the water- this quarantees your torso is flat on the water. Then slowly slide back onto the back deck. The kayak will flip back. This will give you the feeling of how the roll finishes. The paddle blade replaces foam block.
Very helpful thanks from Argentina
Good luck, and I hope it helps you, Antonio!!
Very good instructions, perfect body mechanics, but the paddle should be slightly angled to rise to the surface. Without this angle of the paddle blade it could cause the paddle to dive deeper and hinder the roll. If the paddle is kept near the surface at all times, the amount of effort is minimized. This is corrected by either cocking the risk inward when beginning the row uncocking as the row progresses or by starting with a slight twist to the blade by rotating the grip counterclockwise in the right hand for a right hand roller or slightly clockwise in the left hand for the left side roller. I hope this helps someone having trouble reaching the complete rise to the surface. Also remember to keep your head down, until the last thing. If you are still having trouble with the head, try keeping in mind to keep your head and right knee together as you are rolling. Visa versa for the left side, head to left knee.
+Ronnie Murphy I agree with all you said. My point, and my observation of many who struggle with their roll, is that things go immediately wrong because they don't sweep away from the boat and across the surface of the water. So many of us dive the paddle not so much because of the wrong paddle angle, but because they are actually pulling the paddle down rather than sweeping across the surface. So the point I'm making is to ingrain the muscle memory of sweeping out and away from the boat, and across the surface. If you get that part right, there's a MUCH better chance you will be successful. Thanks for your comment!
planetmango Yes, your instructions are excellent and in excellent form. I just wanted to add these thing just in case someone is still struggling. Not all people have the problem of the blade angle and if they follow your instruction, they should get the rest down easy. I for one had the blade problem, that is why I'm making suggestions. It is by no mean to say you did not include enough. It was the best I've seen at out of the water instruction and it was very clear to understand. Keep up the good work. I know you're helping at lot of people. Thank you. You are well appreciated.
+Ronnie Murphy Thanks! I've gotten some great comments on this video from folks who have had success with it. It's great for getting the basic movement without getting water up your nose! Being upside down under water can be confusing and very counter-intuitive for many people. I've been paddling for almost 25 years, but I was one who struggled with this a lot in the beginning. It seems I still need to give myself a tuneup with this technique a couple of times a year. Thanks again.
Paddle angle will we a diving angle never a climbing angle when rolling.
Awesome video
Thanks that's a great help I'm going to try that at home
Great job!!!
This helped me get a reliable roll - thank you!
That's awesome, Jeff! Thanks for letting me know.
cool. I hope it helps!
Great technique! Then just add water,,, here is how I did: Kayak pool excercise in Helsinki 2014
Brilliant.
awesome! Thanks.
Excelente ❤❤❤
and oh yeah, learn how to roll on both sides.
I just got my first kayak but Emmy parents didn’t know what to look for and I think I got a kayak for white water and I’m a beginner so I need to learn more about them, I really want to get into paddle sports, I really need someone to teach me more about paddle sports
Thank you from 2020
Thanks 😊😊
Nice. I would suggest popping your right wrist to allow the blade to surface instead of dive during your sweep. Shouldnt you be able to roll on either side?
Good comment. I'm just trying here to demonstrate the bad thing many people do, and how to get into a better pattern so as to not PULL the paddle down. Yes, to your wrist and blade angle comment. And as for me... after 26 years paddling I am just now working on that "offside" roll. And to toot my own horn ;-) , I got it on the first try with some of this practice (I'm still amazed at that), but I still have a ways to go to get it solid. But dang... what took me so long to even try?? Happy paddling!
Cool video. It almost looked like you could have rolled it all the way if you kept rolling toward the back deck. This is hard to visualize when to are upside down underwater so seeing on land make more sense.
thank you
Good video
Hey ! Great video man but when you say "just with hand and torso the boat begin to roll", I think it's maybe because you push on the ground at the same time with your shoulder. But when you are in a river, water will be not hardest as the grass.
But whatever I've the same technic and it's good so....
Bye. And sorry if I made any mistake. I'm just french so I don't speak very well :)
good point
I intend to practice this, since it's the start and sweep that create my roll problems. I have to respectfully disagree with the comment that this focus is on the paddle; I find that the focus is actually torso rotation, aided by how the paddler's upper torso is actually moving. Which then has to be transferred to the knees. As noted, this can't be done on the ground and is beyond the scope of this video.
Yeah this makes sense
This is great!! My only concern is I need to plug my nose when I go under or water goes right through, can this be done with one arm?
😂 No you cannot do this with one arm. You wear nose plugs.
@@richshipley haha okay great, no shame in that ;)
Great video, do you have any other ideas for land practice for the roll? Everytime I try at my local lake people rush over thinking I'm drowning and I feel bad stressing people out. Want to get better on land before heading back there so I'm not giving people heartattacks haha
Sorry, I don’t have anything else for you. Contact other boaters in your area and see if there are any pool sessions you might join. Good luck!
@@richshipley no apologies necessary, you have already done plenty. I am outside practicing this as I write this. Thank you again!
I do have one more question though. Using this technique on land, are you able to get the boat completely underneath you and complete the roll even or dry land (without using elbow)or do you just train this way and find it easier once on the water. Does that make sense? Thanks!
@@adrianrafaelmagana804
No!! That's not the point of this exercise. The point is to get your paddle motion STARTED in the right direction, rather than pulling down. That's it. Also very important once on the water is to use your opposite knee to bring the boat under you. That gets called the "hip snap", but it's really the knee pulling the boat under you. That part is not possible on land, but you should be able to feel the pressure on that knee wanting to bring the boat under. On the water, bring the knee under at the same time as the paddle sweep. That's very important. Good luck.
Areal playboater isn't afraid to rub their face in the mud! :)
I like it whats the next part!!!!!
When did crocks start making Kayaks
Excellent video. Interested in selling that paddle?
What are you doing with your legs/ trunk to make the boat move? I'm just starting kayaking and i can't follow what you are doing....yet.
When you do this move in your kayak, you'll feel the pressure on your knee. Use that knee to bring the boat under you. Don't just watch the video. Get in your kayak and do this. Obviously, you can't bring the boat under you while on the ground (do not even try), but practice this so you get the feel of where it starts.
want to try that thx
Should the hip snap start when you are 90 degrees to the boat?
Stefan Carey With the sweep roll, the boat should start rotating under you immediately when you start the sweep with your paddle. Your opposite side knee should be engaged and starting to rotate the boat under you right from the beginning. The so-called "hip snap" should FINISH around the time your paddle is at 90º to the boat, but that finish can feel like you snapped the boat under you at the end. Try it in your back yard a bunch of times to get the feel, then head for some water to practice. Hope that helps.
When you swing the torso, is it just pulling up on the hip that's on the same side as your paddle?
It’s more pulling the knee and thigh that pulls the boat under you. The term “hip snap” is a bit of a misnomer. When you flip over, one of your hands will be at the forward end of the paddle. Let’s say that’s your right hand. In that setup, it’s your right knee and thigh that will bring the boat under you. Please… do this exercise, and you will definitely feel the pressure on that knee. Don’t just watch the video and try to figure it out. Actually do it and you will get it. Good luck
@@richshipley thank you so much for clarifying this for me, I've been kinda struggling with the roll but I'm definitely going to try this video!