While Richtofen was always my favorite character, that line "When I killed myself, I felt nothing. When we killed Dempsey, I felt something... when we killed Takeo, I knew I had to save them" Just shows how much he has changed. Originally, he could care less about them. He didn't care if they died. But as they went on he felt bad for what he had to put them through, but he had no choice. The original Richtofen was just a maniac who didn't care for anything besides ultimate power.
Who would have thought after completing the World at War campaign and playing zombies for the first time that it would turn into this.. the imagination to build off of such a simple concept is insane
You also gotta remember that in origins samantha says "so many have tried... so many have failed". which is/could be a reference to how they have tried many times before but failed, so the cycle repeated.
"Actually, that all works out perfectly." This is what Monty says when he sends the O4 back to repeat the cycle. Why does it work out perfectly though? For who? Oh yeah! For Monty. Monty is evil and he realizes that sending the O4 back to primis is the only option. Monty cannot erase the characters from existence, but sending them back means no more blood vials. Blood vials will not ever be attainable because all other universes have been wiped. Monty will continue his plan in Treyarchs next game in two years. What do you think?
they need the blood vials for the cycle. so they don't die, if he send them back and they die. that means it's over completely and the cycle doesn't continue.
Yeah the cycle will not be able to continue in the next game because all universes have been erased other than a few. Blood Vials or a way of repeating the cycle probably won't be possible.
THEY HAVE TO BREAK THE CYCLE IN REVELATIONS MORON. THEYRE NOT COMING BACK IN "THE NEXT GAME". THEY MIGHT MAKE APPEARANCES AT THE MOST, BUT ITLL ALL BE NEW.
and who said that sending them back means they don't have the blood vials? just because we don't see them? it's a cycle for a reason, they've been primis since the beginning, since origins. so when Monty sends them back, that means the cycle is continuing, and they will end up at revelations again. we've seen so much about "primis must fail" I'm assuming now that it means we cant succeed in helping Monty. primis must fail, and break the cycle.
Yeah dude I understand, but the thing is that we cleared ALL OTHER universes, hence the challenge completion of "Uniform Universe." It would be impossible for them to still have the vials because at primis they did not have then AND Mob of the Dead never existed. Why aren't people understanding this?
Man I really hope they end the story, break the cycle, whatever, in BO3. If it takes a DLC 5, then Treyarch should do it. I don't think the community should have to wait till the next game: we were promised a climax, a conclusion.
Climax: Shadowman reappears and the Characters have to overcome their biggest battle yet Conclusion: the characters overcome the shadow man and are sent to Primis in all their glory... It's technically all there, just not really what we expected or (in your case) wanted
This is my theory. There still may be a super easter egg that requires all easter eggs in other bo3 maps. Actually remember at the start of bo3 lifecycle, it was said that bo3 checks ee progress on older maps? Maybe it requires mob of the dead and origins ee to be completed as well as bo3 ee to be completed for the super easter egg
Dont forget we are talking about Jason Blundell, the biggest troller the world has ever seen. You bet your ass we will see the Origins characters again in three years, and that we may get some more vital information then
+David Wright I think that when dlc4 comes out on Xbox one there will be some sort of 'super Easter egg'. I mean, look at treyarchs recent Instagram post, in the caption they say 'can't wait for revelations to come out for Xbox one' if that isn't a direct hint that something will happen when it gets released on Xbox then I don't know what is.
All I want in this map to be honest is the Staffs the Staffs the Staffs the Staffs I just want the staffs and not the replica staffs from origins but the original staffs of thee ancients.
I still have hope that they are somewhere on the map. I think wait until it comes out on the other console/PC and then we can see if they are somewhere. There still may be a super easter egg that requires all easter eggs in other bo3 maps. Actually remember at the start of bo3 lifecycle, it was said that bo3 checks ee progress on older maps? Maybe it requires mob of the dead and origins ee to be completed as well as bo3 ee to be completed for the super easter egg
There is a cycle. We gotta break it. The only way we can break it is to repair the friendship the shadow man and and Dr Monty shared. Fixing that will fix this entire cycle by ending the war.
It's irrelevant that is confusing that is what makes a good story. Beginning, Exposition, Setting, Conflict, Complications, Resolution, climax. In this case there is many complications and and one big conflict, whens it's confusing the more interesting the story.
Derpnation Yeah it does make it more interesting, but people are starting to get tired of the same storyline that they keep dragging on, it should end in Revelations.
I just wish the storyline was back to the original where it was all about element 115 and group 935 with Maxis and Richthofen behind the main people behind the story.. Not all this apothicon stuff and Cycle bull
the story isn't over, the deeper it goes, the more greater the adventure is, the greater it is the more challenging zombies become, the more secrets we know, the more secrets we can gain for items we can unlock, for the items to obtain the more gaming history we create
Sorry to break it to ya but it doesn't work since my first easter egg run I was Richtofen wearing Al's hat. It's probably me but I couldn't get any type of hats when I was wearing Al's hat.
+Alexander Blaze did you beat the Easter Egg because maybe that period in between the cutscene and when you defeat the shadow man is when you kill them
+Pear Dude Yeah thoroughly with a 4 man team. But we couldn't get any hats because I was wearing Al's hat. I don't know if it's intentional or a glitch.
I have a little theory: so im guessing that everyone who has done the Revelations EE has done all the other EE's on the other maps. So when the Revelations EE cutscene shows, then the cutscene we all see is the cutscene where everyone has killed their 1.0 characters BUT what if you do the Revelations EE on a separate account where you haven't done all the other EE's, could we see a different cutscene?
I think, considering when you've completed all the Easter eggs there are slight changes to the game EG second starter pistol and less arrows used with charged upgraded bow shots, that every time you do a complete loop in order, little parts will keep changing because you are in a new loop and the Easter eggs will slightly change each time with slightly different endings until you get to the point of breaking the loop which will result in new maps where Dr Monty is after you and sending the zombies back to try finish you off; meaning Dr Monty is evil as well. Possibly the apothicans are equally as evil but they weren't here for our universe, that was all a lie Dr Monty made up, in fact they were here for him and he tricks the team into saving him, keeping the kids 'safe' (hostage) as a way of forcing the team into his bidding?
Here's my take on things so far: This isn't the only ending, maybe it's not even a "final" ending within BO3. There's a lot of dialogue and story lines revolving around "the cycle" needing to be broken, like you mentioned MrDalek. We know from MotD that the cycle CAN be broken, if the proper steps are taken. We also know that (at least for the MotD crew) that the cycle is basically Purgatory for the dead characters. We also learned from MotD and Buried that there isn't always one way to do things. From what I can tell from the audio I've heard in Revelations, Dr. Monty is basically God (creator of life, worlds, FREE WILL *cough cough*) The Shadowman was an "old, good friend" that became corrupted and turned against Monty and what he stood for (can you see where I'm going with this?) The Shadowman has a quote about Monty lying to us, and that he's actually the Devil. This could just be the ol' misdirection away from himself, but even Monty gives him a bit of credibility saying that the two knew each other well. Because of the fact that we can hear from both Monty and Shadowman in Revelations through the wisps, I think there may be a secondary EE where we can choose to help the Shadowman instead, and get a different point of view on the story. Buried is considered the end of the first Zombies story line, and it has two different endings to choose from, based on which incorporeal voice you decide to help. Why not do the same for the end of the Origins story? As you mention in this vid, the characters all have pieces from past(?) cycles present on them. This leads me to believe two things: The main characters may be trapped in some sort of purgatory of their own (Evidenced by Samantha saying "You don't even know how long WE'VE been trapped here") maybe as some sort of punishment or game between Monty and SM. Secondly, the true way to solve this EE and break the cycle, is to REPEAT the cycle again (going through all of the previous EEs) In a patch that came out around Revelations it seemed like the previous zombies maps had some slight tweaks (charged bow shots in DE ammo cost being lowered, less spiders in ZnS) and knowing the Zombies team, there's still SO much content that probably hasn't been uncovered yet (lookin' at you "The Giant" -_-) Maybe after Revelations launched, or maybe when it launches on XBone and PC, new aspects to old EEs, or even totally new EEs may be put in that either lead to us being able to complete the infamous "Super EE" or at least give us some clues on how that's done. I feel like I've already rambled on too much but there's still so much to discuss xD I'm no expert on Zombies, but I've been playing since WaW and am sad to see this iteration end! Cheers to Treyarch for a hell of a game, and to you, Dalek for all the hard work you do to help put this wonderful story line in perspective for everyone! P.S. What the hell are the switches in Nacht for?!?
did anyone notice how Rictofen and dempsy seem to know whats about to happen before it happens but takeo and nikolai dont? Rictofen and dempsy share a look in the cutscene when monty says "those blood vials", as if to say, we didnt break the cycle. Takeo and nikolia get ready to fight but tank and rictofen dont, because they remember, and because they know they have failed, rictofen tells monty to send them somewhere else, continiuing the cycle. This can also be seen at the end when tank and rictofen lift up their staffs before nikolia and takeo, because they remember doing it before. There are also other hints towards this theory, including tank saying "rictofen i thought we were done with this" when rictofen kills his 1.0 version. This is because he remembers killing their 1.0 versions before and still not breaking the cycle. Tank also knows about the beacon, when he shouldn't. Other elements foreshadowing this is when tank says "good to see you tank", when about to kill his 1.0 version, like he has done it many times before. However when takeo kills his 1.0 version, he is shocked when he finds out that the emperor has betrayed him. Also takeo repeatedly says "i fear i will succumb to madness" in one of the revelations trailers. This could be from his memories of past cycles coming back in fragments, and he thinks he is going mad by remembering killing himself and others in the past.
MrDalekJD You sir have blown my mind as you explained in this entire video now I understand why Tank said that in the giant.What I thought he meant by that was their done with the zombies for good after origins but this..........this has just blown my mind and I'll never see blundell's zombies the same ever again.
+James Dyce it could be I mean the zombies story can go anywhere but I'm only implying it's Monty because it looks like the pictures shows a person wearing a scarf around his neck
Look at the facial expressions of each of them at the beginning when they are transported back to Origins. 14:21. They all seem to acknowledge the cycle has just restarted... Dempsey does a heavy blink almost of frustration or realization. Nikolai looks angry and confused. Takeo shakes his head and looks at Richtofen. And Richtofen gives a head nod to Dempsey. Seems like they are acknowledging they have failed... Idk just a thought.
Ok. I understand the storyline and everything about it, except for primis. Some please answer these questions: Who are the characters in primis, is it the origins crew? Where does it fit into storyline chronologically? Are those the staffs from origins or are they the original staffs?
Primis are Keepers. The first, and the last beings in existence. The events of the great war take place in Medieval times (the Templar Knights were around 1100-1300 AD). Our characters become Primis when Doctor Monty restarts the cycle. The staffs shown are the original staffs and Maxis will create copies of them for our 4 characters to use when they are reborn before WW1.
so a few thoughts, what if since all the maps are changing slightly, for example the bows on DE and spider rounds on ZNS, are a result from the cycle being restarted. Things are the same, just a little different. That's why we have to go through the maps again, we are in a new cycle, But this time our characters might remember. Richthofen could have shared the knowledge he gained from the kronorium with the other 3. And speaking of Richthofen, maybe the 1.0 version is the one who was the Shadowmans "apprentice". Monty quotes that the first time they teleported they changed the rules and got the attention of the apothicons. so maybe when he touched the mpd, the voices he was hearing was that of the shadow man and the apothicons. This would explain why Richthofen did "nearly everything he told him" interested in what you guys think.
Does BO3 have nothing to do with BO1, if the cycle has been going on forever, then why do we see older versions of the crew in kino, ascension, etc. Another point, I understood the whole cycle thing, but that doesn't make the ending any more satisfying... Where is Peter? Why did Sophia play such a big role, and not someone a little more important like a MOB character or a SOE character? My biggest question, WHEN DID RICHTOFEN COLLECT HiS SOUL??? He obviously didnt collect in in the giant because it wasnt sent up in GK. Qustions like these, and more, are just some I wished were answered in Rev.
That's what I thought, but he never said he collected it in the giant. He said something along the lines of "we must collect his soul, as you saw me do" never did he say in the giant, der riese, etc. And if his collected it in the giant, why did it not go up with the other three, and why was it already there in origins.
Ricardo Curiel in the giant and Der eisendrache, character conversations make it even clearer that he was collected his soul -Ar the end of the der eisendrache easter egg he clearly states he preserved his own soul- Even if he didnt do it in the giant he killed plenty of richtofens before hand + the shadow man was in the key, yet you didn't see him in Gorods ending cut scene now did you? Nope. He didnt show up till revelations .
there is a quote from Takeo he says something like "this is not the end". That quote made me believe that the story isn't over. IDK if that quote is important or not, but it gave me hope :)
Wait... So if the Origins characters are in an infinite time loop. Then the MOTD crew still are too, cause the Origins crew will have to collect the blood vials again and again. Just give the MOTD crew a break...
thanks Mr.Dalek JD this helps clear everything up thanks a lot would really like more Videos talking about Zombies once again thanks your The best Mr.Dalek Jf👍👌💯
In origins samanth says, the staffs have been lost for centuries. This means that the loop starts when the characters get teleported to the dimension where they rule with staffs. In the cutscenes the people arnt zombies so this means it has to be in the past.
great video! but I think I have something a lot of people didn't notice, Nero knew about the book that kills the shadow man all along, codename pizza made a video called "Nero knows the future of the storyline" and he talks about some quotes Nero said about a book and this video was created before revelations! so I think that Nero was talking about the book in revelations, the one that killed the shadow man.
I'm mostly disappointed because they removed the PPSH , the ffar , nx shadowclaw and the Ray gun mark3 from the mystery box and they didn't add new specialist weapon
I don't know if anyone else has noticed this but when playing as Richtofen and entering the origins part of the map, he'll say something along the lines of him getting visions of saving the girl. And from origins we know maxis was getting visions of a daughter he didn't have which is from his original timeline self. What I believe this means is that we are not playing as the "Origins" crew. I don't know if this could be correct but correct me if I'm wrong
+MrDalekJD. I don't know if you know this but I came across these little purple flames within certain lanterns spread across the map. Each one gives you some dialogue, and one had something very interesting about Monty. The shadow man saying that Monty is "evil" and has gone by many names such as the devil, beezelbub, etc. Not sure if any of this is already known by you or others but I find it interesting. Maybe Monty really is truly evil? It's possible from what you said about the kids being safe away from Monty.
in all the other dlc's, the main main ee has been solved way before it came out on Xbox and PC, so I think Treyarch will add it in when it comes out for all platforms so everyone has a chance to find the main ee.
I wonder if the kids are the origin crew. Sam becomes Sophia (because she is hiding from Monty because she knows what he did) and she falls in love with maxis because he reminds her of her dad (the reason I believe she is Sophia is that Sam 1) probably won't remember her dad and 2) by the time GK rolls around it seems she knows more than we thought, maybe because she remembered all of this happening before) and the kids become the origins crew. So what could this mean. Either A, they break the cycle or B, the cycle continues. What if in the next installment we break the cycle and defeat Monty.
If it is true that with each cycle they are learning more and more on how to break it, it kinda makes me think there's no 2nd cutscene. Because we are probably going to break the loop within their next game and we are going to defeat Dr. Monty.
I think it's gonna be a second Easter Egg just like moon because if you complete the Easter Egg on Revelations you can still move and see things in the corners of the screen in the end so there will probably be something to add later on to the EE when Xbox and Pc comes out.
Just me that thinks Dempsey and Richtofen's visit to Alcatraz confirms that they are familiar with a cycle. which could also mean that the trip to mob of the dead was to observe the weasel breaking the cycle so that they can also break their own cycle that started in origins.
I wanted Revelations to take place in the Great Battle, I wanted the OG 4 to use the original staffs and fight the apothicons in revelations as Primis, thought that would've been cool
Here is a thought, what if the zombies main menu with our characters at the campfire is our characters already at Primis right after they get sent there by monty. They in turn are lost and set up camp and each map we play is like them dwelling on their past journeys. I expect there to be another dlc for us to play on Primis and fulfill our destiny to beat the Apothicans and doing so would upgrade that menu screen for our characters to have their robes and maybe staffs.
there is def a super Easter egg ciphers and the trailer confirm it. also Jason said himself "when you think your done with the Easter egg you are not done"
The Ending cutscene when it shows primas doesn't have to be the exact time when they were sent back it could just be a changed in perspective. They could've been sent back before the battle.
Did Jason ever say it would be the ending map or did he just say it would put brackets around the other maps? Because it put brackets around the other maps but it doesn't necessarily have to be the ending of our 8 year story.
Jason didn't say that he was ending the story line. He emphasized heavily that he was going to make a "nice set of brackets," to go around the origins story line.
I'm not sure if everyone remembers but the guy that in charge of zombies posted a video a couple of months ago that said that there was a even larger easter egg and that we'll have to go back to the old maps (World at War and so forth) to find the pieces that we missed to see the whole picture.
When thinking about it, this is actually smart from Treyarch. Our characters are stuck in a loop, and the community too ! The rounds in zombies are endless, of course, everyone knows that ; so you keep killing and going through the rounds. Furthermore, we love to go back and play old maps, again, and again, and again, and again. A worldwide loop from Treyarch.
While Richtofen was always my favorite character, that line
"When I killed myself, I felt nothing. When we killed Dempsey, I felt something... when we killed Takeo, I knew I had to save them"
Just shows how much he has changed. Originally, he could care less about them. He didn't care if they died. But as they went on he felt bad for what he had to put them through, but he had no choice. The original Richtofen was just a maniac who didn't care for anything besides ultimate power.
after what Dalek said I actually do appreciate the cutscene a little more
Same.
Same
I like ducks... In fact, I am one
Love that image.
Brilliant!
All hail our god, Duck Monty
Did you talk to treyarch about making a shock return to the story
Give me ten Perkaholics
I AM THAT DUCK!
Since I think that revelations EE was trash I'm gonna act like it still hasn't came out
So guys who's hyped for revelations can't wait for the trailer
Lol
me too lol
YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO LEAK THE TITLE YET! WHAT THE HELL DUDE!
I've seen screenshots looks pretty good!
sorry to break the news but it came out
If they made a movie on this entire story line I would actually get what was going on
Who would have thought after completing the World at War campaign and playing zombies for the first time that it would turn into this.. the imagination to build off of such a simple concept is insane
You also gotta remember that in origins samantha says "so many have tried... so many have failed". which is/could be a reference to how they have tried many times before but failed, so the cycle repeated.
Last time I was this early
Dr Monty wasn't a duck
Haha that's a nice one
I'll admit, this one was alright
can someone please explain why is everyone joking about dr monty and a duck!?!?
he says im that duck quote in revelatiions
"Actually, that all works out perfectly."
This is what Monty says when he sends the O4 back to repeat the cycle. Why does it work out perfectly though? For who? Oh yeah! For Monty. Monty is evil and he realizes that sending the O4 back to primis is the only option. Monty cannot erase the characters from existence, but sending them back means no more blood vials. Blood vials will not ever be attainable because all other universes have been wiped. Monty will continue his plan in Treyarchs next game in two years. What do you think?
they need the blood vials for the cycle. so they don't die, if he send them back and they die. that means it's over completely and the cycle doesn't continue.
Yeah the cycle will not be able to continue in the next game because all universes have been erased other than a few. Blood Vials or a way of repeating the cycle probably won't be possible.
THEY HAVE TO BREAK THE CYCLE IN REVELATIONS MORON. THEYRE NOT COMING BACK IN "THE NEXT GAME". THEY MIGHT MAKE APPEARANCES AT THE MOST, BUT ITLL ALL BE NEW.
and who said that sending them back means they don't have the blood vials? just because we don't see them? it's a cycle for a reason, they've been primis since the beginning, since origins. so when Monty sends them back, that means the cycle is continuing, and they will end up at revelations again. we've seen so much about "primis must fail" I'm assuming now that it means we cant succeed in helping Monty. primis must fail, and break the cycle.
Yeah dude I understand, but the thing is that we cleared ALL OTHER universes, hence the challenge completion of "Uniform Universe." It would be impossible for them to still have the vials because at primis they did not have then AND Mob of the Dead never existed. Why aren't people understanding this?
I wouldn't mind the OG characters return. They've always been awesome. But please, no aliens. Just strictly zombies
Well it was always about aliens because they created 115
Vrill ftw
these "aliens" have been hinted at since bo1
Zombies are aliens, they are envoys of the ancient evil aka "The Apothicons" created from 115 that the Apothicons send out through the universe.
Somone doesn't know his zombies storyline...
Man I really hope they end the story, break the cycle, whatever, in BO3. If it takes a DLC 5, then Treyarch should do it. I don't think the community should have to wait till the next game: we were promised a climax, a conclusion.
2018 when 3arcs next game is due will be the 10th anniversary of zombies. I doubt the 4 main characters wont be involved.
Climax: Shadowman reappears and the Characters have to overcome their biggest battle yet
Conclusion: the characters overcome the shadow man and are sent to Primis in all their glory...
It's technically all there, just not really what we expected or (in your case) wanted
This is my theory. There still may be a super easter egg that requires all easter eggs in other bo3 maps. Actually remember at the start of bo3 lifecycle, it was said that bo3 checks ee progress on older maps? Maybe it requires mob of the dead and origins ee to be completed as well as bo3 ee to be completed for the super easter egg
Dont forget we are talking about Jason Blundell, the biggest troller the world has ever seen. You bet your ass we will see the Origins characters again in three years, and that we may get some more vital information then
+David Wright I think that when dlc4 comes out on Xbox one there will be some sort of 'super Easter egg'. I mean, look at treyarchs recent Instagram post, in the caption they say 'can't wait for revelations to come out for Xbox one' if that isn't a direct hint that something will happen when it gets released on Xbox then I don't know what is.
All I want in this map to be honest is the Staffs the Staffs the Staffs the Staffs I just want the staffs and not the replica staffs from origins but the original staffs of thee ancients.
bows where alot better IMO and we get them
If you want the staffs , then go play origins lol
Staves,staffs it dosen't matter
I still have hope that they are somewhere on the map. I think wait until it comes out on the other console/PC and then we can see if they are somewhere. There still may be a super easter egg that requires all easter eggs in other bo3 maps. Actually remember at the start of bo3 lifecycle, it was said that bo3 checks ee progress on older maps? Maybe it requires mob of the dead and origins ee to be completed as well as bo3 ee to be completed for the super easter egg
There is a cycle. We gotta break it. The only way we can break it is to repair the friendship the shadow man and and Dr Monty shared. Fixing that will fix this entire cycle by ending the war.
or freeing shadow man from apothican control because the apothican kidnapped shadow man
its either this we both kill shadow man and monty and fix the universe ourselves
Or we kill Maxis
Yh but one problem in pretty sure that the shadow man is dead
+Antonio Vit23 maxis already dead
but this..... is just a theory..... a game theory........
Haha
Wat bout rustman lot
+Mujibur786 Rahman russman*
If they continue this storyline it's just gonna get more confusing and irritating
Actually we actually hang on to it without any confusion when there isnt any skrub asking frustatingly hard question.
I think they should end it, start a new story.
i agree, they do need to start a new story. All they're doing at this point is adding new characters & it's confusing
It's irrelevant that is confusing that is what makes a good story. Beginning, Exposition, Setting, Conflict, Complications, Resolution, climax. In this case there is many complications and and one big conflict, whens it's confusing the more interesting the story.
Derpnation Yeah it does make it more interesting, but people are starting to get tired of the same storyline that they keep dragging on, it should end in Revelations.
I just wish the storyline was back to the original where it was all about element 115 and group 935 with Maxis and Richthofen behind the main people behind the story.. Not all this apothicon stuff and Cycle bull
same it's become annoying for me now
+Ano this is explaining how 115 even got here
Except apothicons were in ciphers from bo1 sooo stfu
Source?
If you wanted it that way then the world is screwed and your adventure ends in Buried.
I've been playing zombies for years and (mostly) understand the storyline. I was very underwhelmed with this map as a whole unless there will be more
When the storyline officially ends i will tell my children the story if zombies as a bed time story
the story isn't over, the deeper it goes, the more greater the adventure is, the greater it is the more challenging zombies become, the more secrets we know, the more secrets we can gain for items we can unlock, for the items to obtain the more gaming history we create
Last time I was this early leafy had a chin...
you're wrong for that.. not everyone is made the same way. you probably got some flaws too.
Bruhhhhh
+MaTrIxILLuSiOnZ #Triggered Lol
ellis you just got the L handed to you
so you've never been this early then?
The crew failed.Richtofen's plan failed.The cycle continues..
In other words, the premis will, or has failed
We can't know yet..but if primis failed for ever,there is something else in the story,other characters which will help them break the cycle!!!
Maybe Richthofen had to go into the boss fight wearing al's hat and the other three kill him or he kills them???
+Pear Dude holy crap, that is an AWESOME idea!!
OMG this is an actual good idea! Someone needs to try this NOW!!!
Sorry to break it to ya but it doesn't work since my first easter egg run I was Richtofen wearing Al's hat. It's probably me but I couldn't get any type of hats when I was wearing Al's hat.
+Alexander Blaze did you beat the Easter Egg because maybe that period in between the cutscene and when you defeat the shadow man is when you kill them
+Pear Dude Yeah thoroughly with a 4 man team. But we couldn't get any hats because I was wearing Al's hat. I don't know if it's intentional or a glitch.
Can I just say thank u ,u have made sense of this entire ending cutscene and u helped me realise what the bo3 maps meant .thanks again great vid
and how long has maxis been getting it on with sophia??
Who cares about the ending can we all just talk about how there were only 2 throwback weapons tommy gun and thundergun how sad is that???
Yep
who cares
I care
doesn't count
its just a few weapons what r u gonna cry but cuz there's is the peacekeeper to
can anyone explain to me why Maxis/Richtoffen needed the tranzit crew to construct beacons in tranzit and die rise?
I have a little theory: so im guessing that everyone who has done the Revelations EE has done all the other EE's on the other maps. So when the Revelations EE cutscene shows, then the cutscene we all see is the cutscene where everyone has killed their 1.0 characters BUT what if you do the Revelations EE on a separate account where you haven't done all the other EE's, could we see a different cutscene?
I dont think so. In Jon's EE guide he says you get the same achievements so nothing changes.
You get the same cutscenes I did it last night without doing the others and it's all the same
These predictions aged like milk
You said that Monty quote so perfectly.
sam says weve been traped here that could mean montys perfect world is not as nice as it seems and is causing this loop?
yes it could be that or she is referencing the cycle
But Samantha also says that the cycle needs to be broken
I feel like the shadow man is the good guy and you have to do his version of the ee
I think, considering when you've completed all the Easter eggs there are slight changes to the game EG second starter pistol and less arrows used with charged upgraded bow shots, that every time you do a complete loop in order, little parts will keep changing because you are in a new loop and the Easter eggs will slightly change each time with slightly different endings until you get to the point of breaking the loop which will result in new maps where Dr Monty is after you and sending the zombies back to try finish you off; meaning Dr Monty is evil as well. Possibly the apothicans are equally as evil but they weren't here for our universe, that was all a lie Dr Monty made up, in fact they were here for him and he tricks the team into saving him, keeping the kids 'safe' (hostage) as a way of forcing the team into his bidding?
This cutscene is short but full of hints that could lean towards a second Easter egg. Maybe this isn't the only cutscene...
I Believe when the maps release on all platforms the cycle will be able to be broken
nah , prob just a set up for the next game.
+ItzMerry95 look at treyarchs Instagram post. They hint towards that.
John you should make a video about all the unfound or unexplained easter eggs like the 2nd gondola on the DLC 1 map or the vodka on the DLC 3 map
This zombies storyline really fucks me up! Can anyone link like a complete storyline I can read, or a video. All up to revelations?
There is a four hour audio log I watched that a few years ago but for a detailed storyline video...It would be more than 10 hours long.
Here's my take on things so far: This isn't the only ending, maybe it's not even a "final" ending within BO3. There's a lot of dialogue and story lines revolving around "the cycle" needing to be broken, like you mentioned MrDalek. We know from MotD that the cycle CAN be broken, if the proper steps are taken. We also know that (at least for the MotD crew) that the cycle is basically Purgatory for the dead characters. We also learned from MotD and Buried that there isn't always one way to do things. From what I can tell from the audio I've heard in Revelations, Dr. Monty is basically God (creator of life, worlds, FREE WILL *cough cough*) The Shadowman was an "old, good friend" that became corrupted and turned against Monty and what he stood for (can you see where I'm going with this?) The Shadowman has a quote about Monty lying to us, and that he's actually the Devil. This could just be the ol' misdirection away from himself, but even Monty gives him a bit of credibility saying that the two knew each other well. Because of the fact that we can hear from both Monty and Shadowman in Revelations through the wisps, I think there may be a secondary EE where we can choose to help the Shadowman instead, and get a different point of view on the story. Buried is considered the end of the first Zombies story line, and it has two different endings to choose from, based on which incorporeal voice you decide to help. Why not do the same for the end of the Origins story? As you mention in this vid, the characters all have pieces from past(?) cycles present on them. This leads me to believe two things: The main characters may be trapped in some sort of purgatory of their own (Evidenced by Samantha saying "You don't even know how long WE'VE been trapped here") maybe as some sort of punishment or game between Monty and SM. Secondly, the true way to solve this EE and break the cycle, is to REPEAT the cycle again (going through all of the previous EEs) In a patch that came out around Revelations it seemed like the previous zombies maps had some slight tweaks (charged bow shots in DE ammo cost being lowered, less spiders in ZnS) and knowing the Zombies team, there's still SO much content that probably hasn't been uncovered yet (lookin' at you "The Giant" -_-) Maybe after Revelations launched, or maybe when it launches on XBone and PC, new aspects to old EEs, or even totally new EEs may be put in that either lead to us being able to complete the infamous "Super EE" or at least give us some clues on how that's done. I feel like I've already rambled on too much but there's still so much to discuss xD I'm no expert on Zombies, but I've been playing since WaW and am sad to see this iteration end! Cheers to Treyarch for a hell of a game, and to you, Dalek for all the hard work you do to help put this wonderful story line in perspective for everyone!
P.S. What the hell are the switches in Nacht for?!?
Happy Birthday MrDalekJD
did anyone notice how Rictofen and dempsy seem to know whats about to happen before it happens but takeo and nikolai dont? Rictofen and dempsy share a look in the cutscene when monty says "those blood vials", as if to say, we didnt break the cycle. Takeo and nikolia get ready to fight but tank and rictofen dont, because they remember, and because they know they have failed, rictofen tells monty to send them somewhere else, continiuing the cycle. This can also be seen at the end when tank and rictofen lift up their staffs before nikolia and takeo, because they remember doing it before. There are also other hints towards this theory, including tank saying "rictofen i thought we were done with this" when rictofen kills his 1.0 version. This is because he remembers killing their 1.0 versions before and still not breaking the cycle. Tank also knows about the beacon, when he shouldn't. Other elements foreshadowing this is when tank says "good to see you tank", when about to kill his 1.0 version, like he has done it many times before. However when takeo kills his 1.0 version, he is shocked when he finds out that the emperor has betrayed him. Also takeo repeatedly says "i fear i will succumb to madness" in one of the revelations trailers. This could be from his memories of past cycles coming back in fragments, and he thinks he is going mad by remembering killing himself and others in the past.
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MrDalekJD You sir have blown my mind as you explained in this entire video now I understand why Tank said that in the giant.What I thought he meant by that was their done with the zombies for good after origins but this..........this has just blown my mind and I'll never see blundell's zombies the same ever again.
Does this mean Monty is the blacked out man in kino?
it could also be Pablo or maxis. some believe it might even be the shadow man
+James Dyce it could be I mean the zombies story can go anywhere but I'm only implying it's Monty because it looks like the pictures shows a person wearing a scarf around his neck
Yeah that's the thing about the storyline, there's also the people who believe that the shadowman and Monty were once the same person
+James Dyce yea I got you, it's very tedious when it comes to confirming things
Look at the facial expressions of each of them at the beginning when they are transported back to Origins. 14:21. They all seem to acknowledge the cycle has just restarted... Dempsey does a heavy blink almost of frustration or realization. Nikolai looks angry and confused. Takeo shakes his head and looks at Richtofen. And Richtofen gives a head nod to Dempsey. Seems like they are acknowledging they have failed... Idk just a thought.
Remember when zombies was zombies and not Themis apothecary bulshit
Nah, it's always been about Apothicons and Keepers. Keepers have been appearing in Ciphers since BO1.
The ignorance is real on this video
in bo1 it was the vril-ya but they were basically keepers
Yeh but what happened to the maps where they went falling apart where it was about surviving against zombies not aliens
The thing I loved about waw zombies was how scary it was, now it's just turned into a bucket where they threw random ideas in
Man I remember when I saw the origins last cutscene I thought it was all over for zombies.
Ok. I understand the storyline and everything about it, except for primis. Some please answer these questions: Who are the characters in primis, is it the origins crew? Where does it fit into storyline chronologically? Are those the staffs from origins or are they the original staffs?
Primis are Keepers. The first, and the last beings in existence. The events of the great war take place in Medieval times (the Templar Knights were around 1100-1300 AD). Our characters become Primis when Doctor Monty restarts the cycle. The staffs shown are the original staffs and Maxis will create copies of them for our 4 characters to use when they are reborn before WW1.
From what i can gather:
Primis is the start of zombies and they are the original staffs...
But there is a good possibility that im wrong
From what i can gather:
Primis is the start of zombies and they are the original staffs...
But there is a good possibility that im wrong
They are definitely the original staffs not the origins staff I remember
It definitely changed my opinion I am 6th grader who did all of the zombies Easter eggs and like you dalek I will miss this beautiful story
I'm just happy I got to see nickolia without a hat in over 8 years of him wearing it
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so a few thoughts, what if since all the maps are changing slightly, for example the bows on DE and spider rounds on ZNS, are a result from the cycle being restarted. Things are the same, just a little different. That's why we have to go through the maps again, we are in a new cycle, But this time our characters might remember. Richthofen could have shared the knowledge he gained from the kronorium with the other 3. And speaking of Richthofen, maybe the 1.0 version is the one who was the Shadowmans "apprentice". Monty quotes that the first time they teleported they changed the rules and got the attention of the apothicons. so maybe when he touched the mpd, the voices he was hearing was that of the shadow man and the apothicons. This would explain why Richthofen did "nearly everything he told him" interested in what you guys think.
Does BO3 have nothing to do with BO1, if the cycle has been going on forever, then why do we see older versions of the crew in kino, ascension, etc.
Another point, I understood the whole cycle thing, but that doesn't make the ending any more satisfying... Where is Peter? Why did Sophia play such a big role, and not someone a little more important like a MOB character or a SOE character? My biggest question, WHEN DID RICHTOFEN COLLECT HiS SOUL??? He obviously didnt collect in in the giant because it wasnt sent up in GK. Qustions like these, and more, are just some I wished were answered in Rev.
Dont be dumb
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in Der eisendrache he clearly states that he collected it in the giant.
That's what I thought, but he never said he collected it in the giant. He said something along the lines of "we must collect his soul, as you saw me do" never did he say in the giant, der riese, etc. And if his collected it in the giant, why did it not go up with the other three, and why was it already there in origins.
Ricardo Curiel in the giant and Der eisendrache, character conversations make it even clearer that he was collected his soul
-Ar the end of the der eisendrache easter egg he clearly states he preserved his own soul-
Even if he didnt do it in the giant he killed plenty of richtofens before hand
+ the shadow man was in the key, yet you didn't see him in Gorods ending cut scene now did you? Nope. He didnt show up till revelations .
there is a quote from Takeo he says something like "this is not the end". That quote made me believe that the story isn't over. IDK if that quote is important or not, but it gave me hope :)
Wait... So if the Origins characters are in an infinite time loop. Then the MOTD crew still are too, cause the Origins crew will have to collect the blood vials again and again. Just give the MOTD crew a break...
thanks Mr.Dalek JD this helps clear everything up thanks a lot would really like more Videos talking about Zombies once again thanks your The best Mr.Dalek Jf👍👌💯
so does this means that dlc is the remastered maps from bo2?
Everything yes
In origins samanth says, the staffs have been lost for centuries. This means that the loop starts when the characters get teleported to the dimension where they rule with staffs. In the cutscenes the people arnt zombies so this means it has to be in the past.
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Thanks sylo. I subbed. I love your vids. I'm thinking of making a channel but I need to ask my parents. Any ideas how to ask them correctly.
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nice vid johnny boy
YOU HAVENT EVEN WATCHED IT
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When he said elephant in the room I immediately thought of Randy Pausch RIP dude
Same
It would be good to know how richtofen 1.0 died
The giant
watch the trailer for the giant idiot
Lewis Fernandes that wasn´t really richtofen 1.0
Richtofen 2.0 shot him in the giant intro cutscene
the one ***** said IS the one I'm referring to...bc the richtofen killed in the giant was never collected in the summoning key
Thank you Dalek for explaining it!!!
so.... origins confirmed dlc 5....plz dont destroy my hope
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I can dream.
Actually yes. there will be a remake. (Custom zombies)
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Ryder Wang good job m8
I thought the ending was trash until I actually did the EE and well now I'm very happy with the ending! Guys play the EE before judging
Where is the blood? Did the freaking drink it?
yes
It seems so😅
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This is a great vid! Does this mean tank could be the bald man in the first strike poster?
they should have given PS4 the cycle continues end cutscene and XBOX 1 the cycle is broken end cutscene.
FTJ Gaming and Trading no...that’s just stupid
great video! but I think I have something a lot of people didn't notice, Nero knew about the book that kills the shadow man all along, codename pizza made a video called "Nero knows the future of the storyline" and he talks about some quotes Nero said about a book and this video was created before revelations! so I think that Nero was talking about the book in revelations, the one that killed the shadow man.
3:26 u literally were mouthing off the words at the same time 😂😂
Holy crap Jon you lined up the video with your voice so well
I'm mostly disappointed because they removed the PPSH , the ffar , nx shadowclaw and the Ray gun mark3 from the mystery box and they didn't add new specialist weapon
Treyarch Zombies and its story made so many childhoods so magical!
Well done Jon.....You've figured it out perfectly,I agree with you.
I don't know if anyone else has noticed this but when playing as Richtofen and entering the origins part of the map, he'll say something along the lines of him getting visions of saving the girl. And from origins we know maxis was getting visions of a daughter he didn't have which is from his original timeline self. What I believe this means is that we are not playing as the "Origins" crew. I don't know if this could be correct but correct me if I'm wrong
+MrDalekJD. I don't know if you know this but I came across these little purple flames within certain lanterns spread across the map. Each one gives you some dialogue, and one had something very interesting about Monty. The shadow man saying that Monty is "evil" and has gone by many names such as the devil, beezelbub, etc. Not sure if any of this is already known by you or others but I find it interesting. Maybe Monty really is truly evil? It's possible from what you said about the kids being safe away from Monty.
in all the other dlc's, the main main ee has been solved way before it came out on Xbox and PC, so I think Treyarch will add it in when it comes out for all platforms so everyone has a chance to find the main ee.
Hey Mrdalekjd when are you going to make a full storyline video?
Thank you so much for this video. So many people are blinded by the fact that it said "The End" at the end of the cutscene...
I really hope your right Dalek.....about all of this beginning
I wonder if the kids are the origin crew. Sam becomes Sophia (because she is hiding from Monty because she knows what he did) and she falls in love with maxis because he reminds her of her dad (the reason I believe she is Sophia is that Sam 1) probably won't remember her dad and 2) by the time GK rolls around it seems she knows more than we thought, maybe because she remembered all of this happening before) and the kids become the origins crew. So what could this mean. Either A, they break the cycle or B, the cycle continues. What if in the next installment we break the cycle and defeat Monty.
If it is true that with each cycle they are learning more and more on how to break it, it kinda makes me think there's no 2nd cutscene. Because we are probably going to break the loop within their next game and we are going to defeat Dr. Monty.
Nice vid dalek strong points
I think it's gonna be a second Easter Egg just like moon because if you complete the Easter Egg on Revelations you can still move and see things in the corners of the screen in the end so there will probably be something to add later on to the EE when Xbox and Pc comes out.
Just me that thinks Dempsey and Richtofen's visit to Alcatraz confirms that they are familiar with a cycle. which could also mean that the trip to mob of the dead was to observe the weasel breaking the cycle so that they can also break their own cycle that started in origins.
I wanted Revelations to take place in the Great Battle, I wanted the OG 4 to use the original staffs and fight the apothicons in revelations as Primis, thought that would've been cool
grate job man love your vids
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Here is a thought, what if the zombies main menu with our characters at the campfire is our characters already at Primis right after they get sent there by monty. They in turn are lost and set up camp and each map we play is like them dwelling on their past journeys. I expect there to be another dlc for us to play on Primis and fulfill our destiny to beat the Apothicans and doing so would upgrade that menu screen for our characters to have their robes and maybe staffs.
I still get goosebumps when I watch the cutscene
there is def a super Easter egg ciphers and the trailer confirm it. also Jason said himself "when you think your done with the Easter egg you are not done"
Every end has a beginning, everyone who thought it was over I told yu!!!!!!
The Ending cutscene when it shows primas doesn't have to be the exact time when they were sent back it could just be a changed in perspective. They could've been sent back before the battle.
bro this is so amazing i cant describe it
Did Jason ever say it would be the ending map or did he just say it would put brackets around the other maps? Because it put brackets around the other maps but it doesn't necessarily have to be the ending of our 8 year story.
This storyline is absolute madness
Jason didn't say that he was ending the story line. He emphasized heavily that he was going to make a "nice set of brackets," to go around the origins story line.
Based on what you're saying we can assume that a cycle is happening
I really hope the next game has every single map of zombies so far
I'm not sure if everyone remembers but the guy that in charge of zombies posted a video a couple of months ago that said that there was a even larger easter egg and that we'll have to go back to the old maps (World at War and so forth) to find the pieces that we missed to see the whole picture.
I find it funny that everyone is holding the staff with one hand while the Richthofen is holding it with two
It is Wind to be fair, I'd imagine you'd have to push it forward lol
He's holding it the other way, that's why.
When thinking about it, this is actually smart from Treyarch. Our characters are stuck in a loop, and the community too ! The rounds in zombies are endless, of course, everyone knows that ; so you keep killing and going through the rounds. Furthermore, we love to go back and play old maps, again, and again, and again, and again. A worldwide loop from Treyarch.
Last time I was this early we didn't know who Jason was and our leader was Jimmy.
well played TreyArc, well played
Who here has hated every zombie map sense bo1? I miss the classic cods and classic zombies...R.I.P