i was so excited to get these and bought myself the scout. I had to return it. Its look and size are awesome. Unfortunately I really wanted a tool with a blade and scissors (the saw was a nice bonus but I don't imagine i'd use it to often). I had bought the scout and a fenix flashlight. both came in that plastic packaging. I use a james brand elko to open up the scout and the elko (tiny overpriced knife) sliced through the plastic like butter. Now that I had the scout out I opened the blade and cut the fenix, it was not as sharp as the elko so took a bit an was disappointed that it doesn't come razor sharp out the box. The the scissors were the largest disappointment. they can only cut if you put whatever material you want deep into the scissors. They are completely unable to cut even paper if you use the tip of them (it just crumbles the paper around it). That was just ridiculous when the scissors on my victorinox classic sd has no issue cutting paper without having to pull all the way into the blades. Returned it in short order. Gerber needs to fix those horrible scissors. The scissors on the gerber dime are even much better (but now quite to victroinox level).
I am torn between buying a trade or a scout... But one thing Bugs me out tho, why Does the trade have an awl, i personally almost never use the awl on my victorinox, id rather swap the awl for the scout's pair of scissors... (i do know though that the trade is more oriented to construction workers, Who need to cut drywall a lot, but where i live drywall is almost nonexistent)
Lots of people wondering about the awl and the saw.... I'm a painter. The saw is great for drywall. The awl is great for reaming out holes in drywall so you can hammer in a drywall plug. This and the Leatherman T2 are my favourite work knives. I have the Leatherman Charge Titanium, but it weighs so much.
As a big Gerber Fan (they make some crappy stuff too) I got my Scout when it first came out. Without a clip for the pocket. They had a few versions, but I picked the one with the scissors. Now in the newer models they added the clip (finally) and a bit the tools. Now the scout has the scissors, bit driver, blade, saw and can opener. The trade has the blade, the saw, awl and bit driver. One less fold out. Is the trade a bit slimmer in width or are the parts a bit wider and they have the same width?
That's great that they added pocket clip, but in my opinion Trade model with scissors instead of useless saw would be ideal. An some lock on bit driver would be a plus.
Are they still including a pocket clip on the armbar? All the pics listed on Amazon doesn’t show a pocket clip *Edit- it looks like the Scout & Trade have the pocket clip but the Armbar Drive does not? I’m wanting the Drive as I don’t need the saw but of course there is no pocket clip
Curious if there is a world where I could pull the Saw or Awl out and trade it for a pair of scissors. Honestly the Scout just looks all around more useful but I went with the Trade because I work in IT and a Screwdriver + Knife pairing is the two most important tools to have on hand in a pinch. I basically never need a saw or an awl, scissors could be useful for cutting Velcro (cable ties). Ordered the Trade earlier today on Amazon and it should be in tomorrow AM at some point, before this I was carrying around a Slim Drive. Despite this being a technically larger tool, the pocket clip makes it a much more usable tool IMO.
Im happy they still have this on their store. However, I took your advice, and checked eBay… got one with no sign of use for 48.xx after tax. Only issue is that handle aren’t aligned. I’ll take it, maybe even make a claim online…
I have been using a Fiskars utility knife for the past week. The pocket clip snapped on the first day. Is the pocket clip on the Gerber Armbar Trade flexible?
Come on Gerber why isn't the driver locking? The Scout doesn't look bad but I'll stick to my Vic Farmer X thanks. Just need to get a Nightize clip on mine.
Love the armbar, do not like the choices on the new tools. I used the scissors religiously and love the driver. Fold that sucker in half and it’s a great tight access high torque driver. Rarely used it straight because it didn’t lock but still good in a pinch. Hopefully they add the clip to the original.
I just got mine in the mail and the tools are super loose ,it looks like they forgot one of the washers and the knife is off centered and rubs against the frame when I close it
If they would put a lock on the driver and switch the saw for scissors on that “Trade,” I’d buy it in a heartbeat. Too frustrating to operate a driver without the lock and saws go dull way too quick then sit there uselessly. Been there done that on driver and saw. Won’t do it again.
My million dollar question would be, why they don’t use two of those fancy Armbar frames to create a Juice sized plier based multi tool? The success of the SOG PowerPint and the Juice reboot indicates there is a need for a capable yet small EDC plier.
I didn't like the orignal armbar just because of the way the scissor folds. Just not crazy about feeling the scissor blade as I close it. Other than thinking the scissors and saw should be switched between the two I say that Gerber did a great job with both.
Pocket clip is awesome! I love my regular armbar but have settled for it just living inside my pocket. The Gerber Trade seems cool but I get more use out of scissors over a saw. No wonder they dropped the price of the OG Armbar everywhere! I have my eye on an Armbar Slim if I can find it for real cheap.
I love Leatherman tools but I must admit Gerber is thinking better their projects. Trade looks great for my necessities, greater than Europe75 and that stuff...only wish they put the whole tool as the half part of a pliers-based multitool.
So they fixed one major issue... And then ignored the other major one. Namely that none of the tools lock in place except the blade. This thing is more of a toy for folks who want to feel prepared with their EDC.
I have to wonder how they chose the tools on these things? Personally, I find the extremely common awl only slightly less useless than the often seen corkscrew on pocket tools. 🤔
Close but not quite there. I need a blade, scissors, and a hex bit driver that isn't going to fold on my hand and give me a blood blister. As of now, these are junk
to each his own, but I'm really not getting the desire for a pocket clip. Any multi-tool I've had just goes in my front pocket, even if it has a clip. and we're talking full size surges and roxon phantoms, and it's perfectly comfortable
I like the hook on the end of the saw it works to remove fishhooks so don't need my pliers which was their main use when wandering outdoors most of the time. @@hvacbudget8600
Unbelievable! Boo!!! Hiss!!! Jeer!!! They STILL have not made the driver so it locks! There is no way they are not getting a lot of complaints about that! I will pass. lol
1. Why do I need scissors on a knife? I already have a knife, I don't need scissors. A small plier would be infinitely more useful. 2. Why the saw? Again, useless. A file would be better. 3. Just put a freakin pocket clip on the original.
I still don't understand why the bloody driver doesn't have a lock
That would be great.
Lazy rushed designing! Plus they lied in their copy when they wrote down "locking frame"!
That was exactly what made me lose interest in that tool, its almost unusable being non locking.
@@DeconstructedWithJosh I think that's talking about the knife.
@@McRootbeer It was, but the copy reads like this: "A sturdy frame lock ensures safe operation and easy access to ALL onboard tools."
i was so excited to get these and bought myself the scout. I had to return it. Its look and size are awesome. Unfortunately I really wanted a tool with a blade and scissors (the saw was a nice bonus but I don't imagine i'd use it to often). I had bought the scout and a fenix flashlight. both came in that plastic packaging. I use a james brand elko to open up the scout and the elko (tiny overpriced knife) sliced through the plastic like butter. Now that I had the scout out I opened the blade and cut the fenix, it was not as sharp as the elko so took a bit an was disappointed that it doesn't come razor sharp out the box. The the scissors were the largest disappointment. they can only cut if you put whatever material you want deep into the scissors. They are completely unable to cut even paper if you use the tip of them (it just crumbles the paper around it). That was just ridiculous when the scissors on my victorinox classic sd has no issue cutting paper without having to pull all the way into the blades. Returned it in short order. Gerber needs to fix those horrible scissors. The scissors on the gerber dime are even much better (but now quite to victroinox level).
I would carry a armbar every day but the DRIVER DOES NOT HAVE A LOCK 😂 Gerber I don’t think it would be that hard to add a small frame lock.
I am torn between buying a trade or a scout... But one thing Bugs me out tho, why Does the trade have an awl, i personally almost never use the awl on my victorinox, id rather swap the awl for the scout's pair of scissors...
(i do know though that the trade is more oriented to construction workers, Who need to cut drywall a lot, but where i live drywall is almost nonexistent)
Lots of people wondering about the awl and the saw.... I'm a painter. The saw is great for drywall. The awl is great for reaming out holes in drywall so you can hammer in a drywall plug.
This and the Leatherman T2 are my favourite work knives. I have the Leatherman Charge Titanium, but it weighs so much.
Great info! Thanks for sharing!
As a big Gerber Fan (they make some crappy stuff too) I got my Scout when it first came out. Without a clip for the pocket. They had a few versions, but I picked the one with the scissors. Now in the newer models they added the clip (finally) and a bit the tools. Now the scout has the scissors, bit driver, blade, saw and can opener. The trade has the blade, the saw, awl and bit driver. One less fold out. Is the trade a bit slimmer in width or are the parts a bit wider and they have the same width?
I'll try to do a short video comparing these.
They finally have a pocket clip! I think the Trade is my favorite.
I really like the pocket clip!
Hey Gerber!... put a lock on the bit tool, maybe then I will consider it. Thank you for the review. Kudos from NYC🗽.
$30-$35 would be a more palatable price for such a small tool.
Definitely going to get a couple for our next project. It's great to see Gerber stepping it up. Great vid as usual. Cheers mate.!
Nice! Thanks for watching!
@@hvacbudget8600 Have you ever review the Gerber Vise.?
@@unfi6798 No I don't have one yet, but I probably should get one.
My blade isn’t one hand-able, it’s too tight. Does it break-in over time?
I couldn’t care less about the driver not locking.
@@aPrimateHerder I'm not sure but you may be able to loosen the pivot.
That's great that they added pocket clip, but in my opinion Trade model with scissors instead of useless saw would be ideal. An some lock on bit driver would be a plus.
Are they still including a pocket clip on the armbar? All the pics listed on Amazon doesn’t show a pocket clip
*Edit- it looks like the Scout & Trade have the pocket clip but the Armbar Drive does not? I’m wanting the Drive as I don’t need the saw but of course there is no pocket clip
It has to be the Armbar Scout or Armbar trade. The normal version still doesn't have one I don't think.
I'm glad to say Gerber has something available to multitool enthusiast this early in 2023. Leatherman Garage is quite the tease!
It is nice Gerber has something new to offer. It's not earth shattering but finally it has a pocket clip! I like the different tool sets available.
Curious if there is a world where I could pull the Saw or Awl out and trade it for a pair of scissors. Honestly the Scout just looks all around more useful but I went with the Trade because I work in IT and a Screwdriver + Knife pairing is the two most important tools to have on hand in a pinch. I basically never need a saw or an awl, scissors could be useful for cutting Velcro (cable ties). Ordered the Trade earlier today on Amazon and it should be in tomorrow AM at some point, before this I was carrying around a Slim Drive. Despite this being a technically larger tool, the pocket clip makes it a much more usable tool IMO.
I think the scissors fit into their own spot in the frame but with some modding it might work.
Im happy they still have this on their store. However, I took your advice, and checked eBay… got one with no sign of use for 48.xx after tax. Only issue is that handle aren’t aligned. I’ll take it, maybe even make a claim online…
Glad you got a discount!
would love to see the saw tested as well
Aww I want one 😄 but the screwdriver would be better with a lock
They are nice, agree about the lock!
Pocket clips? About time.
Are these made in the USA? Thanks for the review
No, overseas.
Any thoughts on the Boker Halftool that mimics the Armbar Drive?
I've never had any of their products, I'll have to take a look at a couple.
Any idea if it comes apart? Would love to take the scissors off the scout and put on the trade in place of the saw. That should be your next video!
I believe you can with pliers. Good idea!
I think you should make a video on it.
Exactly. Why can't someone just make a scissor/bit driver combo? I don't need a cheap knife or saw.
Finally scissors from Gerber with cutting function 😍
I have been using a Fiskars utility knife for the past week. The pocket clip snapped on the first day. Is the pocket clip on the Gerber Armbar Trade flexible?
That's too bad about that pocket clip. This one seems a bit flexible and wider than some other Gerber pocket clips.
@@hvacbudget8600 thank you
I wish the armbar would come in black purely I would love a blacked out armbar just fits my aesthetic
Are they still going to make the original Armbar? I hope so, as that toolset is more functional, in my opinion.
It looks like it is still on Gerber's site for $45. Hopefully they are all made concurrently.
Lotion those hands my man.
Come on Gerber why isn't the driver locking? The Scout doesn't look bad but I'll stick to my Vic Farmer X thanks. Just need to get a Nightize clip on mine.
Love the armbar, do not like the choices on the new tools. I used the scissors religiously and love the driver. Fold that sucker in half and it’s a great tight access high torque driver. Rarely used it straight because it didn’t lock but still good in a pinch. Hopefully they add the clip to the original.
On Etsy there are pocket clips that can make the tool even better. Glad the tool has worked out good for you!
Good video, did not know about the Armbar Scout. Subcribed!
Thank you!
I just got mine in the mail and the tools are super loose ,it looks like they forgot one of the washers and the knife is off centered and rubs against the frame when I close it
Wow! That is really bad. Thankfully mine were not that way. I would definitely get that warrantied.
It's to bad they haven't made a better dime.
Love my dime, it's such a good complement when you have a proper knife as well
For the price of these, I'd go with our Meards or Sunbird multitools. I was thinking about that the other day.
Very true! They are a bit pricey.
I'm seeing the original Armbar around $25 or 1/2 the price of these 2 new models.
That's a pretty good deal. I wonder if they will go up in price soon or be discontinued.
If they would put a lock on the driver and switch the saw for scissors on that “Trade,” I’d buy it in a heartbeat. Too frustrating to operate a driver without the lock and saws go dull way too quick then sit there uselessly. Been there done that on driver and saw. Won’t do it again.
My million dollar question would be, why they don’t use two of those fancy Armbar frames to create a Juice sized plier based multi tool? The success of the SOG PowerPint and the Juice reboot indicates there is a need for a capable yet small EDC plier.
I really like that idea!!
This, a mini center drive
@@sobrev1viente Gerber MiniDrive
I didn't like the orignal armbar just because of the way the scissor folds. Just not crazy about feeling the scissor blade as I close it. Other than thinking the scissors and saw should be switched between the two I say that Gerber did a great job with both.
I agree!
Pocket clip is awesome! I love my regular armbar but have settled for it just living inside my pocket. The Gerber Trade seems cool but I get more use out of scissors over a saw. No wonder they dropped the price of the OG Armbar everywhere! I have my eye on an Armbar Slim if I can find it for real cheap.
eBay has one for $24. Amazon discounts it now and then as well.
I just got on Amazon for $26
@@planetdee3587 That's a great deal!
I love Leatherman tools but I must admit Gerber is thinking better their projects. Trade looks great for my necessities, greater than Europe75 and that stuff...only wish they put the whole tool as the half part of a pliers-based multitool.
That would be great.
So they fixed one major issue... And then ignored the other major one. Namely that none of the tools lock in place except the blade. This thing is more of a toy for folks who want to feel prepared with their EDC.
Disappointed that the driver doesn't lock. Not spending $50 just for a pocket clip and blingy paint job.
Beautiful
50 dollars could buy you a whole set of full sized tools they should really reconsider their prices
Put a lock on the dang things!
I’d prefer a file over a saw, tbh
Who designs these? Put a lock on the screwdriver if you want me to buy one.
I have to wonder how they chose the tools on these things? Personally, I find the extremely common awl only slightly less useless than the often seen corkscrew on pocket tools. 🤔
I hardly ever use the awl either.
So until this has a lock for the other tools... I'll never buy. I don't get why they haven't figured that out.
Close but not quite there. I need a blade, scissors, and a hex bit driver that isn't going to fold on my hand and give me a blood blister.
As of now, these are junk
Put a lock on it and I’ll buy it
For $40-$50 everyone is better off making their own version of this from an Ozark trail Multiforce!
Everyone wants that driver to lock! Why can't they listen to their customers? I'll pass on these 2, especially for $50, uh no.
No lock on the screwdriver is a deal breaker. This is simply bad design.
So close… glad they added a pocket clip, but they should have added a liner lock to the driver. Almost there!
Almost!
to each his own, but I'm really not getting the desire for a pocket clip. Any multi-tool I've had just goes in my front pocket, even if it has a clip. and we're talking full size surges and roxon phantoms, and it's perfectly comfortable
Trade should have had a file/saw like a SAK Mountaineer / Locksmith
That would be great!
I like the hook on the end of the saw it works to remove fishhooks so don't need my pliers which was their main use when wandering outdoors most of the time. @@hvacbudget8600
Unbelievable! Boo!!! Hiss!!! Jeer!!! They STILL have not made the driver so it locks! There is no way they are not getting a lot of complaints about that! I will pass. lol
Useless in Germany cause of the blade that can be opened with one Hand. Stupid §42a.... Nevertheless I rly like the Scout
I like the original Armbar better, as I like having the scissors and bit driver. I don't need/want a saw.
1. Why do I need scissors on a knife? I already have a knife, I don't need scissors. A small plier would be infinitely more useful.
2. Why the saw? Again, useless. A file would be better.
3. Just put a freakin pocket clip on the original.
Non locking screwdriver still? FAIL.
I tried to love it, but that screwdriver is pure trash.😢
too many useless tools for me. i carry a small aaa flashlight and an a old 2 1/2" gerber pocket knife
Mazal Tov! Cybertool is still better no reason to switch!