Do Alien and Blade Runner Exist in the Same Universe? - Theory
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2017
- For years, fans have been looking for connections between the Alien series and Blade Runner. This video explores references, Easter Eggs, and themes that may support this theory.
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Ridley Scott said himself in an interview that BR & Alien are in the same universe.
One of Gaff’s Origami Unicorns can be found in Alien: Isolation.
I have always found it interesting that the 1998 film "Soldier," which is set in the same universe as "Blade Runner," uses the same pulse rifles as seen in "Aliens." Another potential connection between the two franchises.
They don't use the Aliens pulse rifles in the movie Soldier. They use modified AKU-94 rifes.
where do you see the pulse rifles in soldier? you dont.
Sorry for the late reply. Todd served and was at the Tanhauser Gate battle that Roy was at
Sooo....Do we got to see Harrison Ford shoots some xenos or not?
The real questions, yo.
It's true - all of it
VortechBand : lol! Good TFS Joke! ... Scary Simon : Not unless those xenos shoot first because that is the way George Lucas intended it to be! ... not that 1977 ohhppsi doohhhpsi !!! 😂
so Deckard is a Replicant made to look like Han Solo?
When Walter confronts David in Alien Covenant, he asks "When you sleep, do you dream of me?" This is a clear reference to Do androids dream of electric sheep, the novel blade runner is based on. I don't think many people noticed this one!
Anyone spot the Sulaco type ship in Blade Runner 2049! I did.
yes when they are flying over the wall on their way to the orphanage
@@mupo1811 yes! it is indeed very similarly looking
I thought the same
Yup. Confirmed
I just saw Blade Runner yesterday for the first time since being a kid. I noticed a screen in the police car saying "purge", which was featured before in Alien when Ripley starts the Narcisus to get out. And again in Alien Isolation, when Amanda turns on the reactor purge. And there's origamis all over Sevastopol, hinting at the other cop from Blade Runner who kept making them.
Yeah ... that "Other Cop"??? Did you know he is Admiral Adama in the newly recreated BSG (BattleStar Galactica)? The actor is Edward James Olmos.... (same guy) I never heard of "Alien Isolation"... I'll look it up.
AutomationDnD Alien Isolation is the best alien anything since aliens even though it's a video games which is even more impressive
Purge was just an easter egg.
AutomationDnD that other cop ??? did you know he is edward james olmos from that tv show Miami Vice with sonny crocket and rico tubbs 🤙
No, did not know that. Never saw Battlestar galactica. Alien Isolation is only the best Alien game ever.
Another tie: the computer sound effects in Bladerunner when Ford is analyzing the picture of the replicant are the same as in Alien when Ripley is in the cockpit of the Nostromo using the computer.
Shell Shock Holy shit I never noticed that but now I see what you mean
Yeah I noticed back in the late 90s but discarded it as Ridley Scott recycling special effects to save money. That might still be the case though.
Shell Shock True, but considering the other visual references in the film such as the purge screen in the police car, it might be intentional
i think that's just stock sci-fi sounds from the 80s
The same rise-and-fall ventilator sound is also heard in "Alien" and "The Empire Strikes Back."
Predator, Blade Runner, Soldier, Alien, Outland are all set in the same universe in my opinions
I also thought the Kurt Russell film “Soldier” was in the same universe as well
yeah, heard that too - there's a video on youtube somewhere that pointed out some connection but can't remember what it was exactly
The connection was The Soldier’s (Kurt Russel) combat history. O Ryan, Ten Gates. The same that Batty speaks of in tears in the rain scene at the end of Blade Runner.
"I've watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate."
And... OUTLAND....?
In this video, they comment about nods to Blade Runner in the film Soldier (begins at 09:02): ruclips.net/video/X_aZqLPIbeU/видео.html
That's the spirit.
Yep, when I saw Covenant I immediately was like HMMM........
Well, come "Alien 6" (Nexus 6?.... ???? ;D) - if you don't count Prometheus - I bet David 8 is all "I want more life to experiment on, fucker".
I'd like to think so. I was hoping Vickers in Prometheus would be revealed to be an unaware replicant in Covenant just like Rachael but alas. And after hearing what you quoted from Weyland, the way he interacts with Vickers would make more sense.
If Vickers was an android we could then joke the only reason she ran in a straight line under the Juggernaut was because her code didn't allow her to do otherwise (more David shenanigans).
I liked Vickers. Her death pissed me off.
yeah i believe it. In alien covenant walter is a newer model to david, david's model was decommissioned because it became too self aware & thought for itself. This mirrors the nexus 6's, 8's and wallace's nexus 9's from blade runner 2049. Old nexus 6 & 8 models that were capable of self determination are being 'retired' while wallace's new nexus 9's which will always obey and are more robotic are being commissioned. Much like walter.
"Aliens" and "The Terminator" take place in the same universe. Bishop mentions Cyberdyne Systems.
Outland 1981 with Sean Connery looks more like Alien universe, few people worked on both movies.
very gratifying to watch a video by someone else who enjoys pouring over the rich themes and deeply complex characters/motivations in these two franchises . Excellent work! I didn't have access to that dictated communication. This project just keeps on impressing. thanks, alien theory... et carter
Blade Runner and Prometheus are the same quests for more life! Holy shit I watched both movies multiple times and never realized that!
I support this Theory. The world of Predator Concrete Jungle also fits pretty well with Blade Runner
I love this channel, Alien Theory has great narration, fantastic dialog, content and fact checks his lore every time. He is quite reasonably the best channel for the alien franchise.
How does david have eternal life? What is powering him? Even nuclear energy has a limit
As we see in the opening of Prometheus David seems to intake energy through a kind of food-like substance. Walter is also seen drinking something in "Meet Walter". I have to wonder what David was running on when he was alone on the Engineer planet, perhaps he had a supply with him. Technically speaking, yes, all things must die or break down eventually, but a robot has a seemingly endless lifespan, immortal, but perhaps not invincible. If one body breaks down, the memory can just be transferred to a new body. We humans cannot say the same.
He said: you will die, I will not. It might imply that he's not actually alive, and you need to live in order to die.
Ah but he also says he feels alive, I believe David considers himself a living person. I interpret his comments as meaning "I have a virtually endless lifespan, you will inevitably die", a statement of his synthetic supremacy more than anything.
Frederic Beaudet but he is alive! AI is a form of life, we need to open our minds and see beyond organic life forms.
Eduardo Gold Valz Gen Damn right!
I love all your theories, and your channel! Thanks for the video!
I enjoyed this along with your other content. Both these universes are amazing story telling.
As Roy Batty said :" i've seen so many Marvellous things on so many 'OFF-WORLD' Colonies.." it's there.. *Covenant* was an "Colonizing ship and mission..
And the Peter Weyland at the TED talk ..Gives reference about his " *Mentor* " ..indeed..That used to live on top his Pyramid..! Still waiting Like All of Us for The *YUTANI* Connection Dear friend..Friendly Greets..!LOVED ..Really Loved Villeneuve's " *Blade Runner 2049* "!😀
I believe that Alien and Blade Runner are connected.
Corey Donaldson They are not.
Corey Donaldson ... Only Ridley Scott connected! In Alien movies the "droid's" blood liquid is milky white! In Blade Runner the blood, and thus a man-made DNA sequence, is as red as humans! In Alien movies there may be possible "longevity" of Droids just by repairs and surgical means. In Blade Runner the DNA runs its course (4 years by the 1980s movie but may differ in the next "Nexus 8+" models!?
Will be funny if in next Alien movie they will reveal that some of the "colonists" are Nexus models set to help engineer future place and die off. Some of them get impregnated with alien and therefore giving it those needed bio-mechanical traits, as Nexus model aren't same flesh and bones we are made of. Especially in the books they are more of androids.
Checklist:
Colonization of other worlds - check
Cross reference of corporations - check
Futuristic setting - check
These two movies can and should co-exist in shared universe. Blade runner expends Aliens area of cover, while Alien adds this threat level to the Blade runner, that somewhere out there are otherworldly species. Alien cover colonization aspect and space travel of Blade runner, while Blade runner shows what Earth is like while we are deep in space, why there is a need to colonize other worlds.
Lawrence Jelsma that's because Weyland Yutani's androids are not Tyrell's replicants. Two different creations by two different corporations, though they have their similarities
Lawrence Jelsma Weylands Androids are far more advanced than Tyrell's Replicant models.
That was a really good comparison of the two universes. Thank you for your work:)
QUESTION is, do I exist in the Alien & Blade Runner universe!??
SGTR Do you dream of electric sheep?
They both exist in the universe you are in. Or at least, this universe that this you is in.
Best Answer xD
I love the background music you use. I wish I had links to hear these
Sounds like the Interstellar soundtrack
I think it's also worth noting Ridley Scott himself has said he envisioned the world of Blade Runner in the same world as Alien.
Great video, I can see the two franchises being in the same universe. I like how you broke it down with the looking for their gods/ creators. very cool ideas. Maybe Weyland makes a cameo in the new film.
That was a sick analysis, good job dude
Very interesting observations and yes from what you have found in hidden clues/Easter eggs, they are defiantly connected worlds..
Great video Alien Theory!
And I also love the "Prometheus" reference in the opening of "...Covenant", the tea seen. In "Prometheus", Charlize Theron slams him up against a corridor wall and David asks if she'd like some tea in a mocking tone. I suppose it's more of an mortality vs. immortality. I love this channel.
Great stuff man!!
Great video! I missed all this clues!
HOLY SHIT! I asked for this video in the comments of at least ten of your early videos!
IT'S FINALLY HERE!!
Great video breaking down all the connections! Although it is a four year lifespan for the Nexus 7 replicants. Couldn't help it. :) Keep it up!
Excellent work as always. Both of these films are in my Top 10 favorites of all time. I can't wait to watch 2049.
Awesome vid!
Seems like fun retconning by Scott. But the the two *feel* different. Different aesthetics. For that reason, I'd personally prefer to think of the films as being in different universes.
I think that where intended to be the same universe to begin with
Kick Ass Episode Alien Theory !
This video was great. Enjoyed it a ton. 👍👍👍
...this is actually a very good theory
There was a ship that looked identical to the Sulaco in the new Blade Runner, and in addition, there was a statue or something of an Engineer in Tyrell's headquarters.
I can't hide my excitement to know these movies are tied and never knowing it! Going to be re watching it all now with a whole new perspective!
Every video of yours is absolutely perfect.👍🏻🍻🌟
Excellent video!
I never made this connection until watching this video. I like this theory, and will look for more when I see Blade Runner 2049
Best video I've seen of the topic
There is a another conection the USS Sulaco from Aliens 1986. It was a sequence in Blade Runner 2049, it is in the middle of the movie , I was remember because in thouse scene was music from original Blade Runner compose by Vangelis.
Compelling theory and a great video
Ridley Scott says in the commentary for Blade Runner that he "imagines they COULD be in the same universe" Those may not be his exact words but that is the implication he made. Nothing concrete just that they could fit together.
Judge Lazar it’s something ridley Scott did for fun just like this video. I don’t know why everyone in the comments is so against the idea?
I was asking myself this question just yesterday, and somehow RUclips recommended me this video just as i woke up, spooky.
Fantastic analysis thanks
good vid!!
My favourite in Blade Runner 2049 was the med bay sound heard in Alien and featured in Alien: Isolation is heard in Deccard's home.
Also Alien Covenant Origins has some very similar descriptions about the state of the earth which sound a lot like how it appears in Blade Runner.
This is cool, thanks for this video, Blessings.
F*cking Awesome and thought provoking commentary. You sound like a true Philosopher....Kudos to you Bro.
Edward James Almos has said something along the lines of, in his personal (I'm paraphrasing) head cannon he enjoys the idea of Battlestar Galactica also taking place in the same timeline/universe.
Never noticed the easter eggs or thought about this before. But damn that's a cool idea.
This evidence presented is really helping me cope with my anger against the xenomorphs being created by David in Covenant.
Alien is 10x more believable and scary if the creature is a product of evolution. I hate all the God complex BS but the Blade runner tie in makes it a lot more interesting at least.
Other elements: in Blade Runner 2049 there is a group of Replicants organizing a possible revolution/war against corporations. While in Alien Resurrection one of the main characters after finding out that Call (Winona Ryder's character) is an android he mentions that she belongs to a generation built after a war/rebellion involving androids (guess if the replicants started a war and then the androids followed them)
Iv never heard this before, very interesting
I would be interested in whether you think the movies Outland and Moon take place in the same universe as Alien.
+ZygmaExperiment I would like to make a case for Outland one of these days, love that movie.
So happy to see someone suggest this before I could get to it. Please please please do the possible connection video as soon as you can! Keep up all the good work duder! We've got your back!
Hmmm. Never thought of it. We will have to see how much connective tissue remains after Jones's in-universe "sequel" to Moon, Mute, debuts.
armyof 100clowns Outland does have some connections to Blade Runner
every single movie is actually in the same universe
@alien theory what audio is used in the background? It's so eerie and beautiful
Does everyone forget the entire point of blade runner? The replicants were deemed too human, too likely to rebel, that’s why they were trying to put down the off world rebellion and kill any and all replicants who “malfunctioned” by becoming too self realized and who went rogue. In Aliens and Covenant both Bishop and Walter mention something about models being scaled back because they became too human or hurt people or whatever
Can two facehuggers impregnate a person like one after another
fierce tooth why would they?
rollingmaxipads If there's only a few people alive and the hive's running out of fully grown xenos?
Dont think there's time, the chestburster would jump out while the second facehugger was doing its thing haha
One in the mouth...one in the butt....
lol butt-huggers
No? 😂
Director's commentary on Prometheus I think flat out says that Tyrell was Weyland's mentor and Soldier is a kind of sidequel. The writer was also writer on Bladerunner.
This video is amazing.
I had thought that this was a given. But then again, I consider E.T. the Extra Terrestrial to be part of the Star Wars franchise.
*Yea, it looks like they are in the same timeline. Good video!*
There are several reasons to disbelieve the theory that connects both universes:
-First reason: Differences between the Synthetic of Weyland and the Nexus of Tyrell. In Blade Runner, the Nexus are biogenetic beings. It is unknown when it began to be manufactured, but the NEXUS 6 possibly was already manufactured between the end of 2015 and the beginning of 2016. They can bleed, feel pain, eat, and are capable of emotional responses. Synthetics from Weyland, apparently, do not have emotional responses, they just pretend to have them for better social interaction with humans; they do not bleed either, instead they have that fluid that looks like milk; and for what we notice they do not feel pain (otherwise David would have suffered when the Engineer decapitated him, or when his twin Walter stabbed him and hit him several times); As far as we know, David is the only synthetic model that can have emotional responses, which was corrected when the "Walter Models" began to be manufactured by Weyland-Yutani. Another thing is that in TED 2023 Peter Weyland says that they can already create cybernetic beings that would be indistinguishable from human beings "in a few years"; that contradicts the logic of Blade Runner that tells us that the NEXUS 6 were already manufactured by Tyrell in 2016.
-Second reason: The quality of the Earth. In Blade Runner, and in its sequel Blade Runner 2049 we see an Earth devastated by the evil uses of the human being, completely mutilated and without any hope. In the films Prometheus and Aliens this is not visible; in the scene of the caves of Ireland in Prometheus (this in 2089) we see a clean and tidy world; and in Aliens, during the scene of the Gateway Station (this in 2179), we see that the Earth is blue and very beautiful. This is because, according to the chronology of the corporation, Weyland stopped global warming with its inventions, in addition to inventing forms of infinite energy that replaced fossil fuels. The devastated Earth does not happen until Alien Resurrection, but this is in 2379, they are almost 380 of difference with the 2019 of Blade Runner.
-Third reason: Space colonies. In Blade Runner we can see that in 2019 humanity already has space colonies; however, according to the Weyland Corporation, hyperluminal journeys were not invented until 2034, and until that date humanity did not have space colonies. In fact, few know this, but Lieutenant Ellen Ripley's birthplace is a lunar colony; that is, she was born on the Moon in the year 2092. However, in Soldier (which is a spin-off film by Blade Runner published in 1998), which takes place in 2036, humanity already has colonies on different planets and even now They have started wars between these worlds. If both occurred in the same universe, it would be necessary to admit that in less than 2 years humanity could create colonies with millions of inhabitants in so many worlds and then these worlds would initiate a war for the stability of the sector. That would be crazy.
-Fourth reason: The blackout of 2022. An anime-style short film has been published that narrates an event that happens 3 years after the first Blade Runner and 27 years before the new Blade Runner 2049. In it you can see 2 Nexus 8 replicants, with the help of a human sympathizer, generate an EMP that destroys human records in Los Angeles and cause deaths throughout the city, in revenge for the "pro-human" movements that hunted and killed replicants, such as the Blade Runner police units and the murky masses of maddened and supremacist people. This chaotic event causes the creation and possession of any type of replicating or similar technology, whether on Earth or in the outer colonies, to be prohibited. Considering this, if Alien happened in the same universe, it would be crazy for Weyland to create David between 2024 and 2030, there is no room for it. They could tell me that "I did it illegally", but how could anyone not know? The Blade Runner police are very powerful, and it is impossible that they had not noticed. This clearly shows that Weyland created his synthetics in a world without prohibitions, that is, outside the universe of Blade Runner.
in this case you need to explain how blade runner ( original only ) and alien ties in with soldier since roy batty references " attack ships burning off the shoulder of orion " and todds war record dictates he was at that battle
In Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep (the original short story that Blade runner was based on) it's explained that the reason people are leaving earth is because Thermonuclear war has fucked the planet beyond repair and people are trying to get the hell out of dodge before things go further south
I like the subtle nods, the big problem though is that aren’t animals extinct in the Bladerunner universe (hence the ‘electric’ sheep), but we clearly have animals in Alien…Jones, the dog or ox in Alien 3 etc.
While this is all interesting stuff, it seems nothing more but easter eggs, especially considering the fact that while the Predator movies have been established as officially connected to the Alien films and both are owned and produced by 20th Century Fox (and now Disney as well), the Blade Runner movies are not. I've always loved expanding cinematic universes, but thus far Blade Runner is only of easter egg status. Perhaps if someday Blade Runner will be purchased by Fox it might actually become connected to and incorporated into the Alien/Predator franchise.
I wanna know if Blade Runner and 2000 A.D. is in the same universe
I think the fact that it’s mentioned in the captain of the Nostromo’s career history that he worked for the Tyrell Corporation is a very blatant connection to the Blade Runner universe. That, coupled with the memos from Weyland talking about Tyrell.
I think someone from the studio said that officially they are not connected. In Scotts mind they clearly are so it's up to the viewer how they perceive the franchises.
I really love this theory. May I know the soundtrack at the video backround, plss?
Blade Runner 2049 pretty much retconned the entire shared universe thing. Seeing as how the Tyrell Corporation isn't even in existence by 2049, it's Wallace and his company that are creating the replicants by that point in time. Dallas was born in 2075 so already there are inconsistencies.
The only way to have the two series connected would be to just ignore 2049, the way Prometheus ignored AVP and AVPR
What if Vickers was a Replicant?
In the Alien Tabletop RPG, theres a picture of a city that strikingly resembles that of Los Angeles in Blade Runner, flying cars, electronic billboards and all.
You should do a video of the connection between Blade Runner and Soldier
I was told by a friend who was a star wars fan boy that the Empire used up a lot of the available resources.
When K enters Wallace's building there is a figure which resembles an engineer in one of the display cases. Thematically Wallace fits well into the progression of the characters, Shaw wants to find God, Weyland considers himself an equal to God, David refuses to acknowledge God and Wallace believes he is above God.
There was a Canadian sci-fi TV show called total recall 2070. There they suggested the worlds of total recall and blade runner exist in the same universe, which would make sense because both movies were based on the works of Philip K. Dick.
In Prometheus, when wetland is giving his hologram presentation to the crew of the Prometheus, a skyline similar to that of Los Angeles in blade runner , can be seen in the background.
Good stuff
Please whatvis the name of the song used in the video ?
There is a silhouette of the Tyrell Corp pyramid in the background of Fiorina 161 as Ripleys escape pod is being hoisted.
Scott has said that both films could be in the same universe
With all the solid evidence you've mentioned, I am 100% sold that it's part of the same universe. Thank you
Allegedly, a Sulaco-like spacecraft is briefly visible in the new Blade Runner movie. I haven't seen it yet.
There's text in the Prometheus extra content where Peter Weyland mentions "that other company" who makes synthetics.
Soldier is part of that universe too. Soldier (Kurt Russel) was the last of the human warriors, and the Kane and his ilk where the start of the replicants for war use. In blade runner it's clear that replicants are used as disposable workers and for battle. Roy Batty is a purely war replicant which is why he fought in space, and was generally bad ass. Androids seem like they are mainly a safety system put in place by future OSHA. Which is why they state in Aliens it's standard procedure to have an Android on board (they are technically stable and follow rules), plus nowhere in the Aliens movies do they ever mention Warrior androids.
Not only do I believe they are in the same universe, I believe the Kurt Russell film "Soldier' also takes place in this universe. When going through Kurt's "Todd" characters weapon skills and proficiencies near the beginning of the film; An interesting weapon name pops up that any Alien officiando will recognize... The M41A Pulse Rifle.
Both are direct extensions of Philip K Dick's Valis mythos. I think that Ridley Scott is trying to fulfill the role of the "next prophet" in Dickian theology by integrating his own alien gospel into Dick's existing work.
Yeah, Xenos are Dick's head... and they dream acidic sheeps
Well, in the Blade Runner universe, Japanese, British, and American corporate entities are pretty much merged together in these huge conglomerates. That’s how you got the Company, Weyland-Yutani which was a merger with Weyland Corp purchasing Yutani Corp. Most of the signs, billboards etc are also in both English and Japanese. The same thing is on Sevastopol Station.
Greetings WCA 420 here the host of the site (Stoner Hill) got to say from what I've seen that Blade Runner most likely Solider are part of the Alien universe would definitely love to count Outland in that to but we all know that they will not do that but to me, I say it would have been an awesome concept if it did.