Quick Tip 289 - Grouping Values

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  • Опубликовано: 7 янв 2025

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  • @karschier6246
    @karschier6246 4 года назад +12

    Techniques and concepts are always excellently explained and demonstrated here. Thank you for creating these videos

  • @joanistotler8804
    @joanistotler8804 4 года назад +5

    This is such a helpful tip Dianne - I needed to understand more about organizing values and this is spot on - what a clear explanation- thank you!!!

  • @gidkideon
    @gidkideon Год назад +2

    Probably one of the best demonstrations of grouping values and simplifying a scene, not just a simple object, that I've seen. Thank you! 👍

  • @kimlanoue2033
    @kimlanoue2033 4 года назад +3

    You amaze me each and every video. I have learned so much from you over the past hmmm many many videos. You’re a library of knowledge. Thank you so much

  • @elsagrace3893
    @elsagrace3893 2 года назад +2

    Finally after 7 years it makes sense why to Notan. I believed it did and I experimented with it but now I get it. It helps you build the painting correctly in values which are the most important thing.

    • @IntheStudioArtInstruction
      @IntheStudioArtInstruction  2 года назад +1

      Yes. It's all about recognizing what the light is doing, where the light rays are hitting, and where they are missing.

  • @almacade1527
    @almacade1527 4 года назад +1

    All of your RUclips tutorials have been such a big help to me. I’m just learning to paint since I retired. I’m learning more from you than I have any place else

  • @sunny4849
    @sunny4849 4 года назад +2

    Thank you. This is the BEST explanation of value grouping I have seen. This is an immense help to understand value relationships.

  • @birgitblume4980
    @birgitblume4980 4 года назад +4

    Thank you Dianne for another super interesting and helpful video!!!

  • @usetherightbrain.
    @usetherightbrain. Год назад +3

    clear and concise as ever, thank you immensely for such invaluable tutorial

  • @mondremuni9181
    @mondremuni9181 4 года назад +2

    Thank you, Dianne! That was really great! I am now actually exited to do notans ( instead of seeing it as a necessary evil). Thank you ever so much for all the work you do! And stay healthy!!!

  • @lakesidegumtrees
    @lakesidegumtrees 4 года назад +2

    Thank you so much Dianne you are wonderful artist but also a skilled teacher.... truly grateful to be learning from you....keep fit and well...regards Mandy from Australia

  • @AnArtsyChic
    @AnArtsyChic 4 года назад +5

    Thank you for your wonderful videos.

  • @dfw6773
    @dfw6773 4 года назад +2

    That was one of the most helpful videos ever. Thank you so much. Your tips really help.

  • @paulamitchem1476
    @paulamitchem1476 4 года назад +1

    Thank you so much for a great explanation. You have made the subject easier to understand. I really appreciate your videos. Thank you again.

  • @ifvictorthen10
    @ifvictorthen10 Год назад +1

    Thank you for this great explanation!! I feel inspired every time I watch one of your videos.

  • @asdasd-di4zj
    @asdasd-di4zj Год назад +1

    I'm just studying value and this helps. The book did mention about grouping values and luckily I found this video!

  • @joanistotler8804
    @joanistotler8804 3 года назад +1

    For the record, Dianne, this is one of my favorite QTs, though I think they are all super!

  • @marlenemeek9030
    @marlenemeek9030 4 года назад

    Another great one, Dianne. This video gave me a light bulb moment: transitions are in the middle of the value scale. This concept will help me mix colors that are in the mid-range. I am watching videos on portrait painting and was wondering how the artist knew what to mix between the shadow area and the not in shadow area. There is so much to know. Your quick tips have been so incredibly helpful.

  • @taylor-vl1re
    @taylor-vl1re 4 года назад +1

    I just started watching your videos/lessons. They are excellent. Answering many technical questions I have always wondered about. Thank you.

  • @pmlt2010
    @pmlt2010 4 года назад +2

    Thank you for this valuable lesson!! 🙏

  • @ssstults999
    @ssstults999 4 года назад

    I hit the like button because, you know, it's going to be a great Quick Tip.

  • @sheuhauchow
    @sheuhauchow 4 года назад

    Thank you for all your quick tips. Very well explained. I will keep practicing as you have taught.

  • @alkasarin1073
    @alkasarin1073 4 года назад

    Very helpful and very clearly explained Dianne. Thanks you are wonderful

  • @MollysFineArt
    @MollysFineArt 4 года назад +1

    Thank you Dianne!🙏

  • @Pegisus2501
    @Pegisus2501 4 года назад

    Awesome Sauce Instruction Dianne! 🥰👍🏽🖌🎨🖼

  • @laurathomsonmusicart9146
    @laurathomsonmusicart9146 4 года назад

    You are such a good teacher!

  • @oldepersonne
    @oldepersonne 4 года назад +1

    Excellent explanation. Thank you

  • @derekfernandez7701
    @derekfernandez7701 3 года назад +1

    20:02 Dianne, your summaries are pure gold! This is so helpful to me, thank you again! 💙What are your thoughts on stylistically using lighter values for shadow areas? I love how this looks, but I have trouble pulling this off consistently.

    • @IntheStudioArtInstruction
      @IntheStudioArtInstruction  3 года назад +1

      Derek, are you referring to keying the entire painting to a lighter value range? It is the value relationship that makes this work, that is the intervals between values. I always use the value relationship I find in nature, so if I want the deep shadow areas to be a lighter value in the painting, then other shadow values will be a degree or two or three lighter, depending upon their location, but no further apart than that.

    • @derekfernandez7701
      @derekfernandez7701 3 года назад

      @@IntheStudioArtInstruction Gosh, thank you so much for your detailed reply Dianne! You're amazing! This is so helpful to me. Thinking in terms of natural value relationships and how to move these together (and how far apart) is such a valuable way to approach this. Thank you again! 💙

  • @elsagrace3893
    @elsagrace3893 2 года назад

    Thanks!

  • @sunbee33
    @sunbee33 4 года назад

    A good video. I have watched other instructional videos and this one is the best by far! Well explained for a thicky like me! :-)
    Thank you Diane!

  • @trisht5064
    @trisht5064 4 года назад

    Thank you Diane as always a very clear explanation 👌

  • @Hazim-eRa3dd
    @Hazim-eRa3dd 4 года назад

    Peace and love mama 🌷💖👌
    From tunisia 🇹🇳🤗

  • @198653877
    @198653877 4 года назад

    Thank you for another great piece of information.

  • @normajeanchartrand8688
    @normajeanchartrand8688 4 года назад +1

    Thank you that was very important info 🌺

  • @dtaverner834
    @dtaverner834 2 года назад

    Does that pen rub off with your finger on canvas? I love your tip of drawing on a whiteboard and find the ease of adjusting the drawing here very useful and would love to be able to do that on canvas!

    • @IntheStudioArtInstruction
      @IntheStudioArtInstruction  2 года назад

      No, the Tombow is water soluble and dries quickly, but it won't rub off onto your finger unless your finger is wet.

  • @anneburke2405
    @anneburke2405 4 года назад +2

    Ah, now I get it. Thank you my guru

  • @juliebenei6545
    @juliebenei6545 4 года назад

    thank you for explaining this difficult concept to me

  • @candacetroystudios
    @candacetroystudios 4 года назад

    Wonderful explanation for grouping values. Question about the cast shadow from the barn. Even though the photo shows a deeper shadow, is it lighter because of the light from the grass shape? Thanks Dianne.

    • @IntheStudioArtInstruction
      @IntheStudioArtInstruction  4 года назад +2

      The photo doesn't really show that the cast shadow is darker where it's closer to the barn and gradually gets a bit light towards it's edges. It getting lighter is the result of adjacent light rays bouncing into it.

  • @manuelazunildadiez4901
    @manuelazunildadiez4901 4 года назад

    Qué alegría !...Muchas gracias por su respuesta.

  • @bcarithers22
    @bcarithers22 4 года назад

    Thanks Diane, you are a marvelous instructor., better than Art School. They mostly had express yourself nonsense. I left painting and got a degree in Fibers. After my daughter was born I went and took a watercolor class in a local Adult Ed program. She was better than Art school too. With life changes, I am finally back to paining again, both in watercolor and acrylic. I have a question for you, sometimes I paint plein air and some times from photos. I have heard that the camera makes the shadows too dark and flat. Do you have any tips for painting from photos and dealing with those shadows? Thanks!

  • @mona2242
    @mona2242 4 года назад

    Thank you for this vid. I am new at this , so my question is what do we do next when picking up the paintbrush? Do you start with the darkest colors & gradually go to the lightest ? And would you have a full length tutorial ? Thanks!

  • @debbiecoulson4637
    @debbiecoulson4637 4 года назад

    Hi Diane! Love your videos and they are really helping me with overall results! What is the paint pen you are using? I would like to get some. Thanks!

    • @IntheStudioArtInstruction
      @IntheStudioArtInstruction  4 года назад

      Debbie, the pen is a Tombow ABT pen/brush. It comes in black and several values of gray.

  • @LarryLindaMills-it6hz
    @LarryLindaMills-it6hz Год назад

    I would like some advice on what base paint colors to purchase that I can use to create most other colors

    • @IntheStudioArtInstruction
      @IntheStudioArtInstruction  Год назад +1

      There are many combinations. My preference are the following tube colors for oils: cadmium yellow light, Rembrandt cadmium yellow deep, Rembrandt transparent oxide red, Cadmium red light, permanent alizarin, Gamlin Quinacridone Violet, dioxazine purple, ultramarine blue and Rembrandt viridian. Where I listed brands, it matters so should not be substituted.

  • @celestesmith9305
    @celestesmith9305 4 года назад +1

    Dianne could you explain cool light versus warm light in creating a still life composition? Also, could you explain the shadow values in cool light versus warm light?

    • @PLSassociates
      @PLSassociates 4 года назад

      Celeste Smith I downloaded four great lessons from her website on working with shadows: cool light/warm shadows and warm light/cool shadows. They were VERY reasonable. I believe they are Series 37:L1-4.

    • @mona2242
      @mona2242 4 года назад

      Patti Schreiner hi, by downloaded do you mean bought from her website? Thanks

    • @PLSassociates
      @PLSassociates 4 года назад

      Yes. $7 each. Super reasonable! And so thorough! I learned a ton.

    • @IntheStudioArtInstruction
      @IntheStudioArtInstruction  4 года назад +2

      Thanks, Patti for suggesting those lessons. That is exactly what I would recommend.

  • @sfargo5050
    @sfargo5050 4 года назад

    Is there a tool that could be used to do the value study/grouping
    that could be painted over with acrylics?

    • @karschier6246
      @karschier6246 4 года назад +1

      Markers with alcohol based inks might work better under acrylics. You could buy one open stock alcohol marker in order to test it without a big investment. (And if you do, feel free to share your results with us back here!)

    • @IntheStudioArtInstruction
      @IntheStudioArtInstruction  4 года назад +1

      Thanks, kars chier.

  • @jerryjohnson4013
    @jerryjohnson4013 4 года назад

    I started a large painting months ago so it is dry. I need to finish it now. Does the surface need any preparation before I start?

    • @IntheStudioArtInstruction
      @IntheStudioArtInstruction  4 года назад +2

      Yes. If it is an oil painting, first clean it by using a lint free cloth with a bit of mineral spirits. Wipe it thoroughly dry, then lightly rub into the surface a light coat of linseed oil. See Quick Tip 222.

  • @lindawilson4902
    @lindawilson4902 4 года назад

    I have 2 different photos of 2 different dogs that I’m grouping together and painting for someone and the light source is different in both. How do I make the light in the painting cohesive for both?

    • @IntheStudioArtInstruction
      @IntheStudioArtInstruction  4 года назад

      I advise working this out with sketches and value/color studies ahead of time. Choose the one that has the light source you want, then in a study, imagine where that light source is located and how the rays from that source will hit the dog in the other photo. Where the light is not hitting, there will be shadows.
      I have a course that shows you how to do that if you are interested. You can find it here: diannemize.com/product/conveying-the-light-source-course/

  • @TheHotaru93
    @TheHotaru93 2 года назад

    Great video! But I have a question which is killing me: How can local values not be a factor?
    Imagine there was a white cube in that photo. It is possible that his SHADOW side would be LIGHTER than the value for the trees in the LIGHT, isn't it?
    Following the 'Halfway to black' principle, that could be very well possible. What do you do in such cases?
    Thanks a lot in advance!

    • @IntheStudioArtInstruction
      @IntheStudioArtInstruction  2 года назад +1

      Miguel, local values are caused by light and shadow. There really can be no such thing as a local value without light. Even the darkest color can have on it the full range of values when lit by a direct light, and the lightest colors can have very dark shadows.

  • @jenzdelight
    @jenzdelight Год назад +1

    Brilliant 👏 ❤

  • @wakabaloola
    @wakabaloola 4 года назад

    1:35 the two-value grouping goes back to who/what?

    • @IntheStudioArtInstruction
      @IntheStudioArtInstruction  4 года назад +1

      It goes back to my notan teaching. See my full-length video Notan: How and Why - ruclips.net/video/2iIm9Ms7ZZ8/видео.html

    • @wakabaloola
      @wakabaloola 4 года назад

      In the Studio Art Instruction thank you

  • @PLSassociates
    @PLSassociates 4 года назад

    Dianne, can you direct me to one of your quick tips that discusses contre jour lighting? With all of the quick tips you have produced I’m certain one of them touches on it, just not under that name.

    • @IntheStudioArtInstruction
      @IntheStudioArtInstruction  4 года назад

      Pat, for those who don't know, contre jour lighting is a type of backlight where the subject is in front of the light. One of my earlier video lessons from the website address this as backlight - Series 9, Lesson 3. I also address backlight in Quick Tip 256.

    • @PLSassociates
      @PLSassociates 4 года назад

      Thank you so much!

  • @linneadoden5597
    @linneadoden5597 4 года назад +2

    Wonder tips

  • @gk_ishy
    @gk_ishy 2 года назад

    Thank you very much.

  • @FreyadeVries98
    @FreyadeVries98 4 года назад

    Amazing explanation. I have heard some say that even the lightest in the shadow must always be darker than the darkest part in the light. This to make a clear seperation? Some famous artists didn't always apply this rule to create a more impressionistic effect. What do you think about this rule? It only applies to direct light ofcourse.

    • @IntheStudioArtInstruction
      @IntheStudioArtInstruction  4 года назад +5

      I am not in favor of ANY rule because there are so many variables in nature, depending upon how reflective surfaces are and the light's effect on everything we see. Generally, observation will show us that the darkest light in none-shadowed areas and the lightest portion of shadows will be in the middle value range, but it's best to use your observation to make decisions, not rules.
      One more word about rules: there is a difference between a rule and a principle. A rule is restrictive whereas a principle is a guide.

    • @FreyadeVries98
      @FreyadeVries98 4 года назад

      @@IntheStudioArtInstruction Thank you so much for your quick and educational take on this. I am self taught and I notice that I sometimes seek for rules to be depended on. I will be doing an internship next month as a 2D illustrator at a illustration studio. But I always am struggling with asking myself when making an illustration out of scratch if my shadows are too dark or too light. I'm guessing that grouping the shadows in the same value range first and then making light adjustments afterwards could be an approach that makes it less confusing? I'm still struggling with how light or dark I can go when making an imaginary painting.

  • @sujanithtottempudi2991
    @sujanithtottempudi2991 4 года назад

    What is the pen you were using?

  • @manuelazunildadiez4901
    @manuelazunildadiez4901 4 года назад

    No podría subtitular en español?.Muchas gracias.

  • @jaimehernandelgadoquintero4539

    Gracias

  • @cherylwalrath-duran2996
    @cherylwalrath-duran2996 4 года назад

    Thank you!

  • @boatpeachbed
    @boatpeachbed 4 года назад

    You’re great!

  • @ТатьянаХан-ы5я
    @ТатьянаХан-ы5я 4 года назад

    Thank you

  • @Ghostshiv03
    @Ghostshiv03 3 года назад

    thanks for this

  • @mariaroca5762
    @mariaroca5762 2 года назад

    tHANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @cherylwalrath-duran2996
    @cherylwalrath-duran2996 4 года назад +1

    Thank you!

  • @maestroroshi1627
    @maestroroshi1627 4 года назад

    thank you

  • @اجنحةالملائكة-ض3ق
    @اجنحةالملائكة-ض3ق 4 года назад

    Thank you 🙏