This is quite strange. Almost every artist interviewed on the Art of Dialogue drop Puffy's name either directly or indirectly. They all cannot be orchestrating the same lie. That Puffy guy has a lot to repent for! 🤔
Pac had ptsd from things he went through since a youngin untill his death. That with his work ethic and unhealthy lifestyle was a deadly combination. Everybody who have gone through the same things know this. You become more aggressive with time, you don’t think clearly, you become paranoid, you have head aches, stomach aches, basically your whole system gets fucked up. I still suffered from it time to time. That’s why loyalty becomes the most important thing.
@@marvinhouse8545 Like I said, you had to go through it in order to get it. Or at least listen/read to understand not to reply. Just like him I was raised by a single mother who is a an activist. I was taught as a child to observe and analyze my surroundings, to read the news paper, analyze politics, about homicide, suicide, the effect of drugs and alcohol, he motives of doing drugs etc, about racism, bullying, prostitution, corruption, the history of slavery. We weren't poor, but we went through some hard times too. I was more intelligent than my peers, so I got the task at school to tutor them. But I also felt like I was responsible for their future. All this when I was between the age of 7-13. Because of that you tend to believe that you have the tools to change the world and those that you helped will always have your back. Till something happens to you and you come to the realization, that you was just caught up in the mix. People believes that being ahead of your time is a blessing, but in reality you continuously you got to watch your back for those who wants to use you for their personal gains. And yes I has ptsd, because like Pac used to say, things will never change.
I honestly think Biggie didn't know but PUFFY tho yeah he knew exactly. But we will never know unless something comesup. I just know we lost 2 of the greatest over bs.
What they didn't expect was for tupac to oull out a gun. They just expected for the guns to steal tupacs jewelry and make him look like a punk on the streets for being disrespectful.
I think everyone that criticized pac didn't realize he had alot to be furious about...everything started going down hill for him...the run ins with police,the rape case,the attempt on his life,the government trying to silence him,having to hold down a rape case and he wasn't in the room..Ask yourself would u not snitch and hold your boys down in a rape case and u wasn't there when it happened??? A rape case....... He still had his bandages on when they locked him up.....sitting there in that cell alone ..he had to be furious..sitting there reading studying writing..planning his get back...ppl now saying they know who shot him..the media turned against him calling him a rapist...the ppl he had around him set him up to get shot...someone saying u was part of a rape....pac was still young and that was a little bit too much for him to swallow..his darkest thoughts consumed him in that cell..Pac was furious ...mad at the world.......The devil came in the form of Suge Knight and said I can get u out of here....I can restore your glory and power tenfold...... From day 1 of him coming home his wrath was unmerciful..... It was supposed to be ...they just forgot what they created... U can hear the pain,anger,disappointment, rage,hurt in every song he did after he got out of that place.....he came home different....the Dark knight...... GOD May have wanted him to sit that 1-4 years..maybe continue reading,,educating himself,,growing physically and mentally...God may have just wanted him to take time out just to understand his influence, power and purpose... One thing is for certain the devil smelled that anger,revenge,hatred,confusion,wrath coming up out that prison cell..... And he whispered the magic words oh so seductively " I can get u out of here" Rip 🙏 to the prohhet.....almost 30 yrs later still all eyes on u!!
Spice 1 is a living legend. He falls into the category of "Your favorite rapper's favorite rapper". Alot of rappers either referenced his name in their songs or in some fashion bit his rap style. He never gets the credit he deserves for his flow or lyrical word-play. When Tupac said Spice 1 is his favorite rapper, that means something.
2Pac used to blast Spice 1 music in New York like it was Cali. He was featured on Amerikkka's Nightmare album in 94. Jealous got me strapped is illest cut on that album.
Jealous got me Strapped is a good song. IMHO "Face of a desperate man" and "Sticking to he G code" are the best tracks on that album. I been a Spice 1 fan since "Let it be known". Real East Bay gangsta shit. My nephew says Spice is his favorite rapper I used to babysit him and bump the Self titled album in 1992 when he was a baby.
@@abubakr5627 I can play every Speezy album up to Black Bossalini and won't skip 1 track. The production on some of his later stuff was aiight. Still got some bangers tho.
I was so sad when this happened to Pac it made me feel so upset and angry. I never forgot how hurt he was. SMH CANT TRUST NOBODY. Pac said that back then. Those words are everyday today. I don’t know what happened... BUT ALMIGHTY GOD KNOWS
@@kvantonio2001 Yey, and that's weird to and disrespectful to Biggie and Tupac in my book remember when Biggie was out there after Tupac died trying to make peace, but you never really seen puffy going hard to make peace, but now he live out there he just have snake behavior for sure
He became a legend after he died. People make a lot of money off of Pac's death. Had he stayed alive he wouldn't have been this popular I believe. He's a dramatic & interesting story bc of how controversial he was, then of course the inevitable, his demise. But this Quad studio incident was the beginning of that heavy drama he & the media wheeled to sell what you now have, "The Pac Legend!"
Yes because Ppl keep rewriting history & significant individuals haven't spoke about certain things. Puffy IS a $quare with money & CAN put some money own yo head, Especially if you talked the shish Pac had Talked & the his 'Ceo' bangin Yo favorite Babymama. Biggie was a hustler NOT a gangster so I doubt "Bigg" had ANYTHING to do with Pac getting Shot despite him maybe knowing who was behind it though.
Puffy is the biggest snake in the industry and the sad thing is he can put a hit on anyone at anytime. He's got a lot of money and power. He might be living nice now but best believe his soul(if he has one) is going straight to hell
@@jalenaverylloydaveryiisson8862 Is your person still working on correcting those issues that pertain to Fixing Mistakes that your kinfolk have done ? Correcting his father's error, a son treads dangerously close to dishonor. Yet sparing his father from blame brings good fortune in the end. Restoring what his father damaged. Some regrets, but no great mistakes. Setting right the father's ruins, The son receives honors. Knowledge of The Truth shall set You free. Htptiwny [i.e., (May) Peace & Blessings be unto You (All)]
@@EddieisKrueger but when they showed the video after the police came did u see lil Shawn or did u see puffy and biggie on the sene. Where was lil shawn?
Andre harrel let something slip in one of his interviews about the shooting..he said everyone was excited and knew Pac was coming,he said Pac was a star and everyone wanted to see how he would spit with lil shawn and that he took time to arrive...nowwww lil cease,and the rest of them were saying they didnt know pac was even coming,thats a fucking lie,andre harrel said he purposely waited with others to see and hear Pac,and this is a whole music exec saying this...so wont be auprised if they used lil cease as a look out
@@UPPERROOMENT Henchman is locked up and Jack got deported, and trust me some other real life gangstas took their spot, not an entertainer, death and jail is part of being a gangsta, not making videos
@@derrickbowers5643 my question was rhetorical…. Then you subsequently said, “real life gangsters took their spot”…. But they were recycled too. It doesn’t last.
They were too afraid to get in that. As a Pac fan I wish that night never happened. Puffy and Big weren't willing to jeopardize their lives for pac. Them dudes were really in the streets who came at pac. RIP Pac & Big 🕊️ 🕊️
@@jalenaverylloydaveryiisson8862 speak English that's ghetto talk and how is that funny you act like you got skills and I bet u happy when you put a brother down
No he actually didn’t tell him to after he got shot. Biggie even said he wanted to warn Pac about the guys he was hanging around but he knew how Pac was, that he would have confronted them. But Big didn’t know Pac was going to get shot, but puff did. Big wouldn’t have sent Cease down to meet Pac in the lobby if he knew Pac was about to get crushed.
@@jamesknight2300 He only told Pac not to fuck with him but he didn’t tell him he was going to be set up and shot so Pac wanted to know AFTER he got shot but Biggie wouldn’t tell him on the phone which pissed Pac off. Biggie wanted to tell him in person. Listen to what Pac says talking to monster Kody: Skip to 4:20 ruclips.net/video/1gqZivwSAAI/видео.html
@@jarvasedundy1 I cant remember the exact video name but it consisted of 3 different interviews, but this particular interview was audio. If I can find it I'll post the link cuz it was on RUclips like a year ago
As Pac always said : "Trust no one!"... & at the end of it all, everyone mentioned, had a beef with Pac, for just being Pac! Envy & jealousy ran high, & Pac always lived with that target on him. There were many reasons people of the Industry did not want Pac around; they admired him, yet hated him at the same time. Each played a role. There may have been many instigators, but one trigger happy~Pac knew it! The trash of the media always bled into it, making things into something it wasn't, adding fuel to the fire in others minds. Sean Combs back then, til now, was always one to stir the pot, to keep his name associated with Pac, whether it is relevant or not. Once again Pac paid the price for it all, & peeps all around are still riding high in his name because of it. It disgusts me. #TrueLegendsNeverDie #PacForever ❤
I don't agree with that. I don't think Diddy saw that coming at all. Not with pac or biggie. I'm not even a fan of his but I don't think he could have prevented that shit tbh. I could be wrong but that's my opinion from everything I've heard about it
@@tylerraisl3939 All respect to you brother but you are wrong! Puff was at the studio with Andrea Harrell and Jimmy henchman let them know what was about to happen! Everybody in California though biggie had something to do with Pac in Vegas!! He didn't even want to go to California but puff begged him because of the album release! So of course I'm right after all I grew up when everything was happening live young man 👍👍👍
@@masterj4777 ya bro I hear ya and all this was so tragic and hits the feelers ....hince the reason we are still talking about it 20 + years later and trying to make sense of it. I'm on your team man. I'm a hip hop junkie so I like talking bout it. Hope all is well playa ....all love 🤟💯
No wonder Pac was mad at Stretch. I'll be mad too if I was wrestling a guy with a gun, and my homeboys was just standing there. I had two guys claiming to have guns ran up on me and my friend. My friend was too scared to fight back, so he ran and left me to fight alone. I could see if he would had called 911, but he ran straight home and told his family to tell anyone calling for him that he was sleeping.
@@SoulOfTheSouth I know. But Tupac did said the men walked passed Stretch to get to him. I'm not accusing Stretch of anything, just some are not built for certain scenarios.
Spice 1 and MC 8 are probably 2 of the hardest and gangsta rappers from the West Coast, especially in the 90's. I remembered in high school bumping "187 Proof". That shit used to go hard with that bumping bass. It was also a funny and creative rap song about liquor drinks being mobsters and gangsters especially if you seen the video for it. Spice 1 was one of Pac's homie that rode with Pac. He got stories with Pac about the Hughes brothers and Pac showed him a lot of love because he sampled Spice 1 lyrics in some of his songs. They were so cool, Pac used to say, "Say Spice 1 I am calling you just to tell you I am sampling your voice in one of my songs", lol.
It’s funny how THE GAME who declared he’s the biggest Pac fan and had him tatted on his body was riding with the man who attempted to murder him (jimmy henchman been his manager for long time) …am i wrong?
Did you see where he went on Drink Champs and blamed Pac for Bigge death? He gonna act like Bigge didn't get on the LA radio and rap long kiss goodnight and think that was all good?
Funny how one of Mike Tyson's best friend's was the one who shot 50 & Mike & 50 are very cool with one another. It's funny how MC New York aka 2Pac was from NYC, lived there most of his life & had everyone on the west coast backing him up with the whole "Westside" media hype to sell his albums when all along he had everyone fooled. Suge made a grip though.
@@biggalaxy9102 50 cent had nothing to do with the murder of his shooter (tyson friend) that’s easy to understand…and Pac had real love for the west coast stop talking shit just cause he was from NyC. We all know he wasn’t a real gangsta…but he still wanted to be a gangbanger so bad and died by the hands of a real gangbanger
Jimmy orchestrated all the artists to be in the studio to show them first hand what happens if anyone crosses him. It was a show of strength. As Pac and others have since divulged..Jimmy and Jack had their foot on the throats of many of the NY artists! I doubt any of them knew. Although they knew about the issues between Jimmy/Jack and Pac. The only person who set Pac up was Strech. He was updating Jimmy on Pacs movements so the gunmen knew when to be ready and enter the studio lounge.
@@visualmindstv9982 me and a friend were walking down Crenshaw by the 10fwy on ramp and he was turning onto the highway so we yelled out to him and he threw up the W and turned around to give us hugs😍 i think i was like 12 or 13 at the time, then i met him at world on wheels skate rink in LA, he was with a group of friends who i think was having a birthday thing. Whenever i say this online nobody believes me, they tell me to stop cappin’ like 2Pac was just some myth or an urban legend…. I met him, he was supposed to lead the change but they knew that and stopped it😫 #RIPPAC Sorry i went off course, he was a leader for sure, his energy was motivating and bigger than anything i ever experienced, he was always the one that made you listen, his smile was contagious and he was always welcoming and giving. So far beyond his young age…. 🥺 damn, i havent thought about those 2 instances in years. 💔
@@2w0nGranTurismo prove myself? believe me idc what anyone online thinks, i was just answering a question. I’m not of the social media generation, i was growing up before google and computers existed.
@@mlean83 i didnt say anything to offend you i just know how annoying it is to share a special moment online just for some NPC to be like "PROVE IT" "cap" "bro is lying for views"
The last part that Spice said about Biggie owing money, I been saying that for years! My opinion, the crips killed Big but P-Diddy was the intended target for not paying all the money for the Pac hit.
Wasn't they trying to get Pac to let Puff manage him?!? Pac said no and then this happened. There was a reason Jack was hanging out with Pac in the first place and that was to get him to agree to be managed by Puff. I think is why they wouldn't help him when he went to prison. He asked Puff to bail him out. I don't know if they just didn't have the bread or if they called themselves teaching him a lesson.
@@carloszaragoza619 Mike Tyson said it best, "Pac was out of his league hanging with them Brooklyn goons." And Mike loved & loves Pac. But Mike also knew who those dudes were & how they got down bc he was the same way when he was a child. Mike was still robbing people in Brooklyn even as a pro boxer. I heard this from my family in Brownsville. Crazy but true. I agree with Mike, Pac was out of his league for real.
I can’t stand how the media made puffy a media darling during this whole incident. He’s not only a downlow dude, but also a corporate predator who prays on the weak, both financially and literally
If you sell your soul to the devil, that’s one of the perks. Media is your ally, in Pacs case it was the opposite, they tried to dirty up his name. Because Pac wanted to stand for something, that was in his blood, he was no sell out
Yeah he didn’t protect Biggie like he should have and he should’ve tried to end that dumb ass beef between Biggie and Pac and I think Pac did get set up..
@@KnuckleHead1983 What I believe is, the reason he didn’t want to end it, is because he was in on that ”beef”, being used to have Tupac and Biggie killed. That’s my belief
@@dalkurd1 You right.Just like I heard PUFFY was in on that Wolf&BMF Shootout.Young Jeezy was with BMF.Now when Big Meech goes to JAIL.THEN Jeezy was in the Group call Boyz in the Hood.Jody Breeze,Jeezy,and Somebody else.
Y'all know Pac was still a young man trying to live, he fought for his convictions. Spice 1 the legend, still love you're work, WHAT a verse on Dusted And Disgusted
2Pac just simply went through hell on earth for his age. Indeed he was "The Rose that Grew from Concrete." RIP Pac. Wish I had met you... And all the way from Botswana 🇧🇼 much love Spice 1 for your priceless stories about Pac. God bless you, brother. And to "The Art of Dialogue," great job for documenting all this hip hop history; both good stories and heart-breaking stories. Cheers 🥂
The fact that he had Method Man on a track and 2Pac on another track Was revolutionary for the time. Nobody else in the west did tracks with New York artists at that time.
@@Enta_Da_Sage the Dogg Pound did, they had a song with Inspectah Deck, meth, Redman and lady of rage who is from the south(Virginia) but they gave it to Pac and he took off rage and decks verse. That was a dumbass idea. Ice cube and ice t were featured on Pac song Deadly Venoms. Pac is from New York. Mc Eiht did a song with redman also. E40 did one with Mc Shan, and also Too Short did one with MC Breed and Erick Sermon. This was at the height of the east coast west coast beef 93-96.
@@tvega3000 Big never got extorted,he had C-Gutta behind him💪🏽Even said it in the song what’s beef “You know my n* gutta kidnap kids”. Now Puffy on the other hand has probably been extorted numerous of times,But GeneDeal was a BIG FACTOR Back in the day so maybe not,BUT DEFINITELY NOT BIG🙅🏽♂️
Biggie was going to make his own label and take all of puffys artists and puffy didnt want that so he took out Mr. Frank White before he can surpass him. Very sad. I miss pac and big. Heck i miss big pun too smh
It’s funny how back then we heard these stories all over LA County how it all went down with PAC & Big. And as time went by people who retold the story was called a liar. AOD is putting in good work by letting the people who was there tell the story and with the internet the world can hear what was happening back then in the industry.
According to a little known or little told part of the story, BIG already was. According to Lil Shawn (the guy Pac was supposed to record w/ that night), after BIG warned Pac not to fuck w/ Jack, Jimmy, etc. Pac went back to them and told them that BIG said he (Pac) shouldn't be fucking w/ them. As a result they sent some stick-up kids to rob BIG for bad-mouthing them to Pac. Lil Shawn and Jimmy Henchman were hella tight so if anybody would know it would probably be him...if you believe what he says 🤷♂️🤷
@@thedream5095 Big gave Pac a warning the week leading up to Quad, that's how he knew Big had information. Big kept saying he was going to talk to Pac about it, but kept putting him off. I think he knew, doesn't mean he was behind it.
@@msfergie5851 I don't think Big knew he was going to get robbed, he warned Pac about dudes he was hanging with, just like Mike Tyson warned him. A guy like Jimmy Henchmen is not going tell everybody his plans.
@@jalenaverylloydaveryiisson8862 You must be, because haven't no one in the comment section or in the interview stated such. You need a life outside of the internet homes. If u are so tough. Why don't you take ur ass to a hood near u and act as such. Stop trolling on the internet. 🤡
Pac blaiming certain people he was involved with makes perfect sense as a human being. Some people are more subtle about blaming others after a incident like thats an others are more vocal because they want to see how people will react after being accused. Im not saying pac was right, but put in those same circumstances and having time to think about it in the hospital, when youre dealing with street people, along with rich people like puffy its becomes hard to trust anyone. Had that never happened there would of never been no imaginary eastcoast vs westcoast.
My question is, why didn't he go hard on the people who shot him? He knew exactly who shot him. Instead he went after Big & Bad Boy. So much for "Thug Life."
@Big Galaxy THAT'S A BIG FACT...but to answer your question. Pac expected them to play the mediator and help the situation, like he often would himself. Pac had a way of stopping beefs between gangs and setting up meetings so they could talk it out. He didn't know Caribbean men don't play that American ne*ro politics BS. He was honestly messing with the wrong people.
Just like how Pac painted the scenario out when it comes to the 🚔 asking ppl in the hood for info........just like when it came to treach when RSC robbed treach,pac went to go talk to the RSC's about that like a man...Go find the interview abt Pac speaking on puffy & biggie after getting shot.Even Big strecth's brother knew who shot Pac up and stretch was playing both sides because his younger majesty did an interview saying the shooters was calling his mom's crib
Right on man, I remember when Screw got a hold of those classic Spice one tracks.....man those summers were full of jams. As a matter of fact I'm about to jam some after this video.
I respected B.I.G but I lost it all when he didn't left Bad Boy records immediately after his friend 2pac got shot down stairs the same building where they had the studio. A true friend would never continued working with Puffy. This entire video is a Gem💎
Then biggie himself probably would've gotten shot before his first album dropped. If puffy is really the snake most people say he is, then biggie leaving over the 2pac shooting would've rubbed puff the wrong way, not only because puffy would lose his main star power artist, but biggie would also be seen as a potential snitch.
Not Bigs fault, Puff set both of them up and his plan worked perfectly, Big was about to leave and call his own shots under Puff he was not calling the shots
Allegedly Biggie knew too, and tried to warn Pac beforehand about talking shit about the gangster that had it done in the first place. Puffy and Biggie kept quiet because they didn't have that kinda juice. Keep in mind at the time Biggie wasn't big time. He was just some upcoming local rapper. I'm not even sure his first album was out yet. I do agree that they at least should have warned him not to go to the studio. But I guess everyone was terrified of Jack 🤷🏾♂️
Biggie and Mike Tyson warned Pac about those dudes on several occasions but he wouldn’t listen….So why is it Puff and Biggie’s responsibility to get into that beef? He was at a recording session for Little Shawn not Biggie…. How about he should have just gave up his jewelry or better yet listened to Mike Tyson because he grew up with them dudes who shot Pac and he warned him about how grimy they were… they would have got Pac one way or another because he was messing with some real gangsters.
Facts they was some nortorious known gangster. Big and them were just kids to these guys. There would have been nothing they could have said or done to stop. Warning pac would have definitely put them at risk even if they would have known what was going down
@@puppyy5361 Haitian Jack, King Tut, Scooter, and Jimmy Henchmen were no joke. I cram to understand why no one ever holds Pac accountable for his choices. Everybody I named either doing a life sentence or deported Pac had no business around those guys.
@@Ðཞའo You hit the nail on the head they always want to say PAC was just a kid like Biggie was 42 or some shit he was a just a kid too and at that point of his life he was still living in the same hood (Brooklyn /East New York) with them guys.
My Cousin Chico!! Keep up the good work Sir, you have the best interviews on this platform!! RESPECT ✊🏾!! I started following after the Jewel interview, I had to catch up, but you most definitely are the truth🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🤲🏾🙏🏾🖤
That is bad!!!! When Artist outside of Bad Boy speak about Puff like that is just wild. I am surprised dude (Puff) can even walk around and feel so safe!! #GoodDay
Spice1 I’m very disappointed at your opinion. Puffy did not own quad studios nor did they run New York. Biggie wasn’t really a gangster, he was a hustler with connections THATS IT. Nobody in New York would ever bow down to PDiddy, Diddy hates street activity. Big Warned PAC About those guys and PAC Didn’t listen at all. Big put his life on the line just by telling warning PAC. PAC is my favorite rapper but he got his self into all that mess by being hot headed
Spice 1 is one of the last loyal and tru to the game out there! No fake conversations about everybody is good and everything is fine... just talk about his truth
Feel like we’ll be talking about this for another 30+ years, my daughters love 2pac & biggie & ones 4 the other is 2, so I’m sure they’ll look into them when they get to 16/17
I wish someone would explain how Biggie had something to gain from Tupac being shot at Quad…Pac was more of an ally and was beneficial to Big’s success, how did having Pac shot benefit Big??????
Noone thinks Big had anything to do with. There aren't tht many big time black folk so they rub shoulders. Most of the big NY guys knew or knew of Henchman and Haitian... Whether or not Puff knew... Who knows... Could Jimmy have let Puff know.... Sure... Would he? Who knows
Big could have felt some type of way toward Pac for saying those were his hammers in the hotel room. Also , if we believe Lil Shawn, he said Big told him that he tried to warn Pac about Jack and that Pac mentioned it to Someone in Jack camp and that Big got robbed?!? I have never heard anyone else tell that story, but I could think of a couple reasons why Big may have not said anything to Pac about what was being planned.
Coolin on the corner with the cellular phone you could tell that the Eastbay was his home more mail than the rest of the pushers cause he got a tech nine in the bushes and that's how the shit was handled first name Jack last name Daniels had 2 boys named E & J E had the 9 and J the AK
I think Puff had something to do wit it. But Biggie did IN FACT try to warn Pac about Jimmy n Jack the week before Quad Studio, which he may or may not have had knowledge about what they were gonna do
To tell u tha Truth Spiggity 1 u da first gangsta rapper that I ever heard that had me in Stunned No Cap..my homie was Playin ‘money gone’ on copied cassette tape..most people wasn’t even listening to Rap then .I said who is that..I ddnt leave til I had your tape In my hand.. had it on repeat everyday..1st time I fell in love with rap.. True Story You Legend
I always heard spice 1’s music in the early 90s but didn’t know his name. The song Born To Die on Tales From The Hood soundtrack got me hooked immediately to him. I love his music. I’m surprised he’s never been featured on trap and drill music.
Funny how everyone on here tells Tupac version but when you see interviews of other people who were actually there it's different it wasn't puffy studio junior Mafia was doing a session in the same studio he was going to...and PAC was going to see lil Shawn not puffy or Biggie....
Then why lil cease called him from the top of the building... Pac was going to enter from the side entrance then lil cease called him then pac went inside from the main entrance where the Assailants were waiting for him
@@viwempofu6364 he called him because he recognized Tupac plus Tupac was always wearing a bandana at that time so Lil Cease acknowledged him because that was his homie.
Puffy was supposed to be going there because of Big being there on the 8th floor recording with JM. However they claim they didn't even know Puff was there on the 6th floor. They were having a party on the 6th floor. According to Lil Shawn Puff had been there for hours before the shooting happened. Pac kept changing his mind about going. Also, there is an interview with Pras from Fugees who claimed he was with Pac that day and was supposed to go to Quad with them, but that he got a call from someone telling him not to come. My question for him would have been did you tell Pac and Stretch and the others what someone just told you?!?!
Why the Hell are we still talking a out Biggie setting Tupac up at Quad when it's been established Jimmy Henchman set that up? Getting real sick of the narrative
This is quite strange. Almost every artist interviewed on the Art of Dialogue drop Puffy's name either directly or indirectly. They all cannot be orchestrating the same lie. That Puffy guy has a lot to repent for! 🤔
Yes you can if a lie is constantly told over and over people will start believe it’s true
@@miyakelis2193 Like suge did it or We didn't respond 🤣🤣🤣😂
@@miyakelis2193 Exactly! 💯 ✌️
All hatin azz Cali people
A HELLUVAH LOT💯💯💯
Pac had ptsd from things he went through since a youngin untill his death. That with his work ethic and unhealthy lifestyle was a deadly combination. Everybody who have gone through the same things know this. You become more aggressive with time, you don’t think clearly, you become paranoid, you have head aches, stomach aches, basically your whole system gets fucked up. I still suffered from it time to time. That’s why loyalty becomes the most important thing.
Pac aint went thru as a child like you may be believe fam
His stay at the big house is what got him goin off and getting aggressive
@@marvinhouse8545 Like I said, you had to go through it in order to get it. Or at least listen/read to understand not to reply. Just like him I was raised by a single mother who is a an activist. I was taught as a child to observe and analyze my surroundings, to read the news paper, analyze politics, about homicide, suicide, the effect of drugs and alcohol, he motives of doing drugs etc, about racism, bullying, prostitution, corruption, the history of slavery. We weren't poor, but we went through some hard times too. I was more intelligent than my peers, so I got the task at school to tutor them. But I also felt like I was responsible for their future. All this when I was between the age of 7-13. Because of that you tend to believe that you have the tools to change the world and those that you helped will always have your back. Till something happens to you and you come to the realization, that you was just caught up in the mix. People believes that being ahead of your time is a blessing, but in reality you continuously you got to watch your back for those who wants to use you for their personal gains. And yes I has ptsd, because like Pac used to say, things will never change.
@@undergroundmoto8287 doubt it
@@marvinhouse8545 You must've been there with him or sum.
I honestly think Biggie didn't know but PUFFY tho yeah he knew exactly. But we will never know unless something comesup. I just know we lost 2 of the greatest over bs.
Exactly
Biggie knew
What they didn't expect was for tupac to oull out a gun. They just expected for the guns to steal tupacs jewelry and make him look like a punk on the streets for being disrespectful.
@@yuseyuse757 🎯
@Cody he did that why who called him dealer
I been down with Spice 1 since "Welcome to the ghetto", and we all love Pac. A damn shame the way the music industry has transformed.
I think everyone that criticized pac didn't realize he had alot to be furious about...everything started going down hill for him...the run ins with police,the rape case,the attempt on his life,the government trying to silence him,having to hold down a rape case and he wasn't in the room..Ask yourself would u not snitch and hold your boys down in a rape case and u wasn't there when it happened??? A rape case.......
He still had his bandages on when they locked him up.....sitting there in that cell alone ..he had to be furious..sitting there reading studying writing..planning his get back...ppl now saying they know who shot him..the media turned against him calling him a rapist...the ppl he had around him set him up to get shot...someone saying u was part of a rape....pac was still young and that was a little bit too much for him to swallow..his darkest thoughts consumed him in that cell..Pac was furious ...mad at the world.......The devil came in the form of Suge Knight and said I can get u out of here....I can restore your glory and power tenfold......
From day 1 of him coming home his wrath was unmerciful.....
It was supposed to be ...they just forgot what they created...
U can hear the pain,anger,disappointment, rage,hurt in every song he did after he got out of that place.....he came home different....the Dark knight......
GOD May have wanted him to sit that 1-4 years..maybe continue reading,,educating himself,,growing physically and mentally...God may have just wanted him to take time out just to understand his influence, power and purpose...
One thing is for certain the devil smelled that anger,revenge,hatred,confusion,wrath coming up out that prison cell.....
And he whispered the magic words oh so seductively
" I can get u out of here"
Rip 🙏 to the prohhet.....almost 30 yrs later still all eyes on u!!
Od
Thats a great narrative..
Suge saved that Nikka life.
Suge saved him he ran out with the power from mob got to him
Cause and effect
Spice 1 is a living legend. He falls into the category of "Your favorite rapper's favorite rapper". Alot of rappers either referenced his name in their songs or in some fashion bit his rap style. He never gets the credit he deserves for his flow or lyrical word-play. When Tupac said Spice 1 is his favorite rapper, that means something.
Snoop Dogg took so many bars from him smh
Facts
💯💪Real spit Salute Spice 1 💪and RIP 🙏to my Big Bro that put me onto Spice in 91💯
Lit
@@vintagedaz You ain’t lying! I used to argue with my boys about that back in the days! Bit all kinds of material off Pac, too. Snoop is so fake!
2Pac used to blast Spice 1 music in New York like it was Cali. He was featured on Amerikkka's Nightmare album in 94. Jealous got me strapped is illest cut on that album.
How u know what he was blasting in New York…. Not saying he sayin he ain’t but how u kno
Jealous got me Strapped is a good song. IMHO "Face of a desperate man" and "Sticking to he G code" are the best tracks on that album. I been a Spice 1 fan since "Let it be known". Real East Bay gangsta shit. My nephew says Spice is his favorite rapper I used to babysit him and bump the Self titled album in 1992 when he was a baby.
Still one of my favorite tracks. Sound a little like from the cradle to the grave
@@myreligionisreality3677 And Strap on the side. That album is full of bangers. Can't forget the Method Man cut.
@@abubakr5627 I can play every Speezy album up to Black Bossalini and won't skip 1 track. The production on some of his later stuff was aiight. Still got some bangers tho.
I was so sad when this happened to Pac it made me feel so upset and angry. I never forgot how hurt he was. SMH CANT TRUST NOBODY. Pac said that back then. Those words are everyday today. I don’t know what happened... BUT ALMIGHTY GOD KNOWS
Yes ma'am,,facts 💯💯
Truth!!!! #GoodDay
A fucking legend right here folks!!!! They don't make em like Spice 1 no fucking more bruh!!
Spice 1 is a real nigga
One thing I can say about 2pac that he had balls .he didn't back down
@@alpha-boss he doesn't back down .
@@alpha-boss see
@@tobiashillsjr8420 bitch he not
@@alpha-boss 😂 You stupid 😂😂😂
@@alpha-boss 😂😂😂
I FIGURED PUFFY WAS INVOLVED I STILL CONFUSED ABOUT BIGGIE, BUT I KNOW IN MY HEART PUFFY WAS INVOLVED I FEEL LIKE
Buffy Buffy Tupac warned everybody to this day that dude has a snake won't power and he live in LA right now go figure
@@kvantonio2001 Yey, and that's weird to and disrespectful to Biggie and Tupac in my book remember when Biggie was out there after Tupac died trying to make peace, but you never really seen puffy going hard to make peace, but now he live out there he just have snake behavior for sure
Yea, I don’t believe Big knew any of that but definitely Puff
I respect this man more than alot of the so called 2pac friends talking bad about PAC after he died..this man hold down the truth, not what he think
Snoop lol
10p
I can’t respect enough for what you said my brother. Spice 1 a real loyal one💯
Spice-1 loved 2Pac and 2Pac loved Spice-1
Most of them that speak down about pac was always jealous of him
DAMN! 03:15 - Tupac started rolling a bloody blunt, he wanted to die high, man really lived to his songs lyrics!
Just like the "right before i die i'll be cursing the law" lyric hence his final words to the police officer.
Nice to see some in hiphop still got love for Pac and still keep it true after all these years !! Another good one from Art
My brother. Spice 1 has always had love & respect for PAC. Spice 1 definitely a real one & loyal one💯
The east coat media acts like he's the one that killed Biggie
@@prophecy9521 Biggie wasn't even that great
@@Infinite0396 why cos he didn’t pop records like to live and die in La
26 years after and still tupac is big topic. True legend 2pac
Goat
He became a legend after he died. People make a lot of money off of Pac's death. Had he stayed alive he wouldn't have been this popular I believe. He's a dramatic & interesting story bc of how controversial he was, then of course the inevitable, his demise. But this Quad studio incident was the beginning of that heavy drama he & the media wheeled to sell what you now have, "The Pac Legend!"
To the internet
Yes because Ppl keep rewriting history & significant individuals haven't spoke about certain things. Puffy IS a $quare with money & CAN put some money own yo head, Especially if you talked the shish Pac had Talked & the his 'Ceo' bangin Yo favorite Babymama. Biggie was a hustler NOT a gangster so I doubt "Bigg" had ANYTHING to do with Pac getting Shot despite him maybe knowing who was behind it though.
@@jalenaverylloydaveryiisson8862 u again? Biggest 2pac fan am i right
Crazy to think if this never happened pac and big would probably still be alive
2pac Got shot by gang member Orlando the guy he hit after the Mike Tyson fight
Pac was bound to face an early death, bishop killed him...biggie would probably be alive, he just wanted to party and bullshit
Facts
I agree if the 1st attempt would've been avoided at Quad they would've been here
They prolly would have still died if it was destined
Puffy is the biggest snake in the industry and the sad thing is he can put a hit on anyone at anytime. He's got a lot of money and power. He might be living nice now but best believe his soul(if he has one) is going straight to hell
Pac said he wasn't going to the studio to do a song with them, he had another session
Right, with Little Shawn
@@jalenaverylloydaveryiisson8862
Is your person still working on correcting those issues that pertain to Fixing Mistakes that your kinfolk have done ?
Correcting his father's error, a son treads dangerously close to dishonor.
Yet sparing his father from blame brings good fortune in the end.
Restoring what his father damaged.
Some regrets, but no great mistakes.
Setting right the father's ruins, The son receives honors.
Knowledge of The Truth shall set You free.
Htptiwny [i.e., (May) Peace & Blessings be unto You (All)]
@@EddieisKrueger but when they showed the video after the police came did u see lil Shawn or did u see puffy and biggie on the sene. Where was lil shawn?
Where was the people he was suppose to do the session with. After the police came I only seen biggie, puffy and his crew
Andre harrel let something slip in one of his interviews about the shooting..he said everyone was excited and knew Pac was coming,he said Pac was a star and everyone wanted to see how he would spit with lil shawn and that he took time to arrive...nowwww lil cease,and the rest of them were saying they didnt know pac was even coming,thats a fucking lie,andre harrel said he purposely waited with others to see and hear Pac,and this is a whole music exec saying this...so wont be auprised if they used lil cease as a look out
I love how unquestionably Spiggity rides w/ Pac, like no matter what
That’s the bonds that endure 💯
Dope you got Spice 1 on here. Real legend on the west coast
Entertainers don't run the streets, real gangsters do
So where are Jimmy Henchman and Haitian Jack now??? Clearly they run things. 😜
@@UPPERROOMENT Henchman is locked up and Jack got deported, and trust me some other real life gangstas took their spot, not an entertainer, death and jail is part of being a gangsta, not making videos
@@derrickbowers5643 my question was rhetorical…. Then you subsequently said, “real life gangsters took their spot”…. But they were recycled too. It doesn’t last.
@@UPPERROOMENT the point still remains
@@mrceo7448 you didn’t make the initial statement though.. 😂🤦🏾♂️
They were too afraid to get in that. As a Pac fan I wish that night never happened. Puffy and Big weren't willing to jeopardize their lives for pac. Them dudes were really in the streets who came at pac. RIP Pac & Big 🕊️ 🕊️
None of them knew it was gonna happen stop with the ridiculous accusations when cease told big pac was getting robbed big went down to get him…
Qqq
You are spot on with your assessment Bro. RIP To BIG and PAC 🙏🏾🙏🏾
@@jalenaverylloydaveryiisson8862 what happened to your dad ?🤣
@@jalenaverylloydaveryiisson8862 speak English that's ghetto talk and how is that funny you act like you got skills and I bet u happy when you put a brother down
Jealous Got Me Strapped & their collaboration with South Central Cartel, Ice- T & MC Eiht Gangsta Team are both dope tracks by Spice & Pac.
Crazy thing Big already told Pac about the people he was hanging out with
No he actually didn’t tell him to after he got shot. Biggie even said he wanted to warn Pac about the guys he was hanging around but he knew how Pac was, that he would have confronted them. But Big didn’t know Pac was going to get shot, but puff did. Big wouldn’t have sent Cease down to meet Pac in the lobby if he knew Pac was about to get crushed.
@@AdonaiYeshuaSpirit Pac said himself that Biggie warned him about Jimmy and Jack the week prior......
@@jamesknight2300 He only told Pac not to fuck with him but he didn’t tell him he was going to be set up and shot so Pac wanted to know AFTER he got shot but Biggie wouldn’t tell him on the phone which pissed Pac off. Biggie wanted to tell him in person. Listen to what Pac says talking to monster Kody:
Skip to 4:20
ruclips.net/video/1gqZivwSAAI/видео.html
@@jamesknight2300
Where is the interview of him saying this? Cause I've seen every 2pac interview and audio there is. And never heard 2pac saying that
@@jarvasedundy1 I cant remember the exact video name but it consisted of 3 different interviews, but this particular interview was audio. If I can find it I'll post the link cuz it was on RUclips like a year ago
As Pac always said : "Trust no one!"... & at the end of it all, everyone mentioned, had a beef with Pac, for just being Pac! Envy & jealousy ran high, & Pac always lived with that target on him. There were many reasons people of the Industry did not want Pac around; they admired him, yet hated him at the same time. Each played a role. There may have been many instigators, but one trigger happy~Pac knew it! The trash of the media always bled into it, making things into something it wasn't, adding fuel to the fire in others minds. Sean Combs back then, til now, was always one to stir the pot, to keep his name associated with Pac, whether it is relevant or not.
Once again Pac paid the price for it all, & peeps all around are still riding high in his name because of it. It disgusts me.
#TrueLegendsNeverDie #PacForever ❤
Big Facts
For real
Pac was telling BIG that Puff was stealing, I think that's what helped start the rift between them.
Puff Daddy knew about everything with everybody!!
Biggie death was avoidable
I don't agree with that. I don't think Diddy saw that coming at all. Not with pac or biggie. I'm not even a fan of his but I don't think he could have prevented that shit tbh. I could be wrong but that's my opinion from everything I've heard about it
@@tylerraisl3939 All respect to you brother but you are wrong! Puff was at the studio with Andrea Harrell and Jimmy henchman let them know what was about to happen! Everybody in California though biggie had something to do with Pac in Vegas!! He didn't even want to go to California but puff begged him because of the album release! So of course I'm right after all I grew up when everything was happening live young man 👍👍👍
@@masterj4777 ya bro I hear ya and all this was so tragic and hits the feelers ....hince the reason we are still talking about it 20 + years later and trying to make sense of it. I'm on your team man. I'm a hip hop junkie so I like talking bout it. Hope all is well playa ....all love 🤟💯
Biggie stole some money from the wrong person
@@wisdomabove4793 I herd whispers about something like that but I took it as just here say 🤔
No wonder Pac was mad at Stretch. I'll be mad too if I was wrestling a guy with a gun, and my homeboys was just standing there. I had two guys claiming to have guns ran up on me and my friend. My friend was too scared to fight back, so he ran and left me to fight alone. I could see if he would had called 911, but he ran straight home and told his family to tell anyone calling for him that he was sleeping.
And when you have time to think about it in the hospital as a human being you are going to evaluate that whole incident and not trust no one.
Stretch been a hater.
Agree
Stretch didn’t have a gun on him plus he didn’t know that was gonna happen.
@@SoulOfTheSouth I know. But Tupac did said the men walked passed Stretch to get to him. I'm not accusing Stretch of anything, just some are not built for certain scenarios.
Spice 1 and MC 8 are probably 2 of the hardest and gangsta rappers from the West Coast, especially in the 90's. I remembered in high school bumping "187 Proof". That shit used to go hard with that bumping bass. It was also a funny and creative rap song about liquor drinks being mobsters and gangsters especially if you seen the video for it.
Spice 1 was one of Pac's homie that rode with Pac. He got stories with Pac about the Hughes brothers and Pac showed him a lot of love because he sampled Spice 1 lyrics in some of his songs. They were so cool, Pac used to say, "Say Spice 1 I am calling you just to tell you I am sampling your voice in one of my songs", lol.
Yes brotha
Yes! And also Ant Banks bumped too!
Spice 1, C-Bo, and Brotha Lynch
I was born in 73' from the Atlanta area and l mostly bumped and still bump music from the west and down south. The beats are better.
Idk bout mc8
It’s funny how THE GAME who declared he’s the biggest Pac fan and had him tatted on his body was riding with the man who attempted to murder him (jimmy henchman been his manager for long time) …am i wrong?
I think it was hatian Jack not jimmy who put the hit
Did you see where he went on Drink Champs and blamed Pac for Bigge death? He gonna act like Bigge didn't get on the LA radio and rap long kiss goodnight and think that was all good?
Funny how one of Mike Tyson's best friend's was the one who shot 50 & Mike & 50 are very cool with one another. It's funny how MC New York aka 2Pac was from NYC, lived there most of his life & had everyone on the west coast backing him up with the whole "Westside" media hype to sell his albums when all along he had everyone fooled. Suge made a grip though.
@@biggalaxy9102 50 cent had nothing to do with the murder of his shooter (tyson friend) that’s easy to understand…and Pac had real love for the west coast stop talking shit just cause he was from NyC. We all know he wasn’t a real gangsta…but he still wanted to be a gangbanger so bad and died by the hands of a real gangbanger
@@biggalaxy9102 u wanna defend that nigga game? the biggest fraud ever in the rap, never seen such a fake ass
"Cooling on the corner with my cellular phone you could tell that the East Bay was his home" Spice Weezy 🔥🔥🔥
No weezy 😂👎🏼
Jimmy orchestrated all the artists to be in the studio to show them first hand what happens if anyone crosses him. It was a show of strength. As Pac and others have since divulged..Jimmy and Jack had their foot on the throats of many of the NY artists! I doubt any of them knew. Although they knew about the issues between Jimmy/Jack and Pac.
The only person who set Pac up was Strech. He was updating Jimmy on Pacs movements so the gunmen knew when to be ready and enter the studio lounge.
Puff aint say shit cuz he wanted that shit to happen, he wanted him dead. RIP Pac it was an honor being able to meet you bruh!
That’s dope how did you get to meet him what was it like?
@@visualmindstv9982 me and a friend were walking down Crenshaw by the 10fwy on ramp and he was turning onto the highway so we yelled out to him and he threw up the W and turned around to give us hugs😍 i think i was like 12 or 13 at the time, then i met him at world on wheels skate rink in LA, he was with a group of friends who i think was having a birthday thing. Whenever i say this online nobody believes me, they tell me to stop cappin’ like 2Pac was just some myth or an urban legend…. I met him, he was supposed to lead the change but they knew that and stopped it😫 #RIPPAC
Sorry i went off course, he was a leader for sure, his energy was motivating and bigger than anything i ever experienced, he was always the one that made you listen, his smile was contagious and he was always welcoming and giving. So far beyond his young age…. 🥺 damn, i havent thought about those 2 instances in years. 💔
@@mlean83 i believe u bro no need to prove yourself to randoms online
@@2w0nGranTurismo prove myself? believe me idc what anyone online thinks, i was just answering a question. I’m not of the social media generation, i was growing up before google and computers existed.
@@mlean83 i didnt say anything to offend you i just know how annoying it is to share a special moment online just for some NPC to be like "PROVE IT" "cap" "bro is lying for views"
“I wanted to die high.”
-Tupac
The last part that Spice said about Biggie owing money, I been saying that for years! My opinion, the crips killed Big but P-Diddy was the intended target for not paying all the money for the Pac hit.
It was bloods . It’s definitely has to do with death row
the realest thing is that most people who has never been shot and survived underestimate the anger somebody feels after being shot and survived...
If Puffy have warned Tupac, then Puffy would've became Jimmy's target
You have to prove that puffy knew about it before you can say he couldve warned Tupac
It's more than one person that knew about it, anyone of them could've warned Pac.
Wasn't they trying to get Pac to let Puff manage him?!? Pac said no and then this happened. There was a reason Jack was hanging out with Pac in the first place and that was to get him to agree to be managed by Puff. I think is why they wouldn't help him when he went to prison. He asked Puff to bail him out. I don't know if they just didn't have the bread or if they called themselves teaching him a lesson.
@@carloszaragoza619 Mike Tyson said it best, "Pac was out of his league hanging with them Brooklyn goons." And Mike loved & loves Pac. But Mike also knew who those dudes were & how they got down bc he was the same way when he was a child. Mike was still robbing people in Brooklyn even as a pro boxer. I heard this from my family in Brownsville. Crazy but true. I agree with Mike, Pac was out of his league for real.
Yeah and so if he got with pac and sure they would be own know and Hella 😨
I can’t stand how the media made puffy a media darling during this whole incident. He’s not only a downlow dude, but also a corporate predator who prays on the weak, both financially and literally
If you sell your soul to the devil, that’s one of the perks. Media is your ally, in Pacs case it was the opposite, they tried to dirty up his name. Because Pac wanted to stand for something, that was in his blood, he was no sell out
Yeah he didn’t protect Biggie like he should have and he should’ve tried to end that dumb ass beef between Biggie and Pac and I think Pac did get set up..
@@KnuckleHead1983 What I believe is, the reason he didn’t want to end it, is because he was in on that ”beef”, being used to have Tupac and Biggie killed. That’s my belief
@@dalkurd1 yeah it was all about the benjamins with puffy.. "mo problems mo money"
I swear he came out with "I'll be missing you" two days later 🤷🏾♂️
@@dalkurd1 You right.Just like I heard PUFFY was in on that Wolf&BMF Shootout.Young Jeezy was with BMF.Now when Big Meech goes to JAIL.THEN Jeezy was in the Group call Boyz in the Hood.Jody Breeze,Jeezy,and Somebody else.
Y'all know Pac was still a young man trying to live, he fought for his convictions.
Spice 1 the legend, still love you're work, WHAT a verse on Dusted And Disgusted
2Pac just simply went through hell on earth for his age. Indeed he was "The Rose that Grew from Concrete."
RIP Pac. Wish I had met you...
And all the way from Botswana 🇧🇼 much love Spice 1 for your priceless stories about Pac. God bless you, brother.
And to "The Art of Dialogue," great job for documenting all this hip hop history; both good stories and heart-breaking stories.
Cheers 🥂
The OG Spice!!! My first official CD was AmeriKKKa’s Nightmare!! Classic
That’s my favorite album
@@icecreambeats101 💯💯💯
Was bumping 187 She Wrote the other day🔥🥰
The fact that he had Method Man on a track and 2Pac on another track Was revolutionary for the time. Nobody else in the west did tracks with New York artists at that time.
@@Enta_Da_Sage the Dogg Pound did, they had a song with Inspectah Deck, meth, Redman and lady of rage who is from the south(Virginia) but they gave it to Pac and he took off rage and decks verse. That was a dumbass idea.
Ice cube and ice t were featured on Pac song Deadly Venoms. Pac is from New York.
Mc Eiht did a song with redman also. E40 did one with Mc Shan, and also Too Short did one with MC Breed and Erick Sermon. This was at the height of the east coast west coast beef 93-96.
Art you in my top 5 with these classics 💯🤣💯💯💯
Puffy and Biggie were scared of those older old school gangsters. Treach said in the Vladtv interview
They were already getting extorted by those cats. Pac said it in his Sway interview
So was treach ….. Jimmy henchman and Haitian jack were a different breed from pac , biggie , puffy , treach and even suge …
So true
@@tvega3000 Big never got extorted,he had C-Gutta behind him💪🏽Even said it in the song what’s beef “You know my n* gutta kidnap kids”. Now Puffy on the other hand has probably been extorted numerous of times,But GeneDeal was a BIG FACTOR Back in the day so maybe not,BUT DEFINITELY NOT BIG🙅🏽♂️
@@tvega3000 Yeah I forgot about that and Tupac spilled the beans in Angie Martinez interview. He know there were getting extorted
Years ago I heard Biggie's death was over money, so did Poochie really pull the trigger?
Yes
@@hereticlife2546 this dude is lying. Pac shot himself in the nuts pac pulled out a gun. Pac wasn't at the studio to do a song with puffys artist
You sound stupid who the fluck biggie owing money to in Los Angeles🙄. The black community is weird af
Biggie was going to make his own label and take all of puffys artists and puffy didnt want that so he took out Mr. Frank White before he can surpass him. Very sad. I miss pac and big. Heck i miss big pun too smh
@@bubblelex5051 fax
It’s funny how back then we heard these stories all over LA County how it all went down with PAC & Big. And as time went by people who retold the story was called a liar. AOD is putting in good work by letting the people who was there tell the story and with the internet the world can hear what was happening back then in the industry.
Ain’t it crazy how word of mouth traveled back then? Folks all over America heard these stories and felt like BIG and Puffy lined him up
@@thetraveler1182 hell yeah Puffy & Jimmy fasho.
Spice One wasn’t there tho
He heard Pacs story and ran with it
Lit
Ummmm but Pac was there and told him
Spice 1, one of the last real ones left...A LIVING LEGEND!
Puffy is the Angel of Death. Biggie and Pac would probably have been alive and best friends and made an album together had Puffy not been a snake
don't even compare, angel of death to a scumbag like puffy. angels are creations of God who are pure.
FOH 🤡
@@Thevividlasereyeguy puffy is ur daddy or what? Did i hurt your feelings?
@@dgstudi0s159 look I said FOH
@@Thevividlasereyeguy 😂😂😂
If BIG or Puff would have warned PAC, they would have been next up, on the heist list!
Bingo
According to a little known or little told part of the story, BIG already was. According to Lil Shawn (the guy Pac was supposed to record w/ that night), after BIG warned Pac not to fuck w/ Jack, Jimmy, etc. Pac went back to them and told them that BIG said he (Pac) shouldn't be fucking w/ them. As a result they sent some stick-up kids to rob BIG for bad-mouthing them to Pac. Lil Shawn and Jimmy Henchman were hella tight so if anybody would know it would probably be him...if you believe what he says 🤷♂️🤷
How would big and puff have known it was gonna happen???
@@thedream5095 Big gave Pac a warning the week leading up to Quad, that's how he knew Big had information. Big kept saying he was going to talk to Pac about it, but kept putting him off. I think he knew, doesn't mean he was behind it.
@@msfergie5851 I don't think Big knew he was going to get robbed, he warned Pac about dudes he was hanging with, just like Mike Tyson warned him. A guy like Jimmy Henchmen is not going tell everybody his plans.
Realest Interview on PAC Ever !!!!! R.I.P THUG 4 Life 2pac
@@jalenaverylloydaveryiisson8862 troll
@@jalenaverylloydaveryiisson8862 You must be, because haven't no one in the comment section or in the interview stated such. You need a life outside of the internet homes. If u are so tough. Why don't you take ur ass to a hood near u and act as such. Stop trolling on the internet. 🤡
@AndreT I agree
Both Spice 1 and Treach always hold it down for Pac, they both always have interesting stories to tell about hanging with Pac
Please, can't wait for the rest of spice 1 interviews
Pac blaiming certain people he was involved with makes perfect sense as a human being. Some people are more subtle about blaming others after a incident like thats an others are more vocal because they want to see how people will react after being accused. Im not saying pac was right, but put in those same circumstances and having time to think about it in the hospital, when youre dealing with street people, along with rich people like puffy its becomes hard to trust anyone. Had that never happened there would of never been no imaginary eastcoast vs westcoast.
My question is, why didn't he go hard on the people who shot him? He knew exactly who shot him. Instead he went after Big & Bad Boy. So much for "Thug Life."
@@biggalaxy9102 you must never listen to Makeveli
@Big Galaxy THAT'S A BIG FACT...but to answer your question. Pac expected them to play the mediator and help the situation, like he often would himself. Pac had a way of stopping beefs between gangs and setting up meetings so they could talk it out. He didn't know Caribbean men don't play that American ne*ro politics BS. He was honestly messing with the wrong people.
Just like how Pac painted the scenario out when it comes to the 🚔 asking ppl in the hood for info........just like when it came to treach when RSC robbed treach,pac went to go talk to the RSC's about that like a man...Go find the interview abt Pac speaking on puffy & biggie after getting shot.Even Big strecth's brother knew who shot Pac up and stretch was playing both sides because his younger majesty did an interview saying the shooters was calling his mom's crib
@@jalenaverylloydaveryiisson8862 you in every PAC interview talkn shit STFU
It is indeed strange that those dudes were in the lobby already posted up like that. They had to've been given a
heads up that Pac was coming.
There's a video of puffy coming out of the studio later acting sus trying to hide from the cameras
Lil Cease was da lookout
Let's Go Brandon!
I think I saw that vid too.
ROCCSTAR LIFESTYLE
That's what it looked like it possibly could've been 😑.
You have to be really stupid
Salute to the OG... He had a big influence on the Texas sound back in the Dj Screw era 💯
Yep and he was born there and raised in the bay!!! 💯💯💯
Right on man, I remember when Screw got a hold of those classic Spice one tracks.....man those summers were full of jams. As a matter of fact I'm about to jam some after this video.
True indeed true indeed
We Worked W #SPICE1 On The #BOSSEDOUTCOMPILATION W #GRIMM And #KATTWILLIAMS
@@sieman78 Real Talk💯
Love this guy! Thank you for this post.
That took a weird turn at the end . Caught me off guard .
Damn
Adrenaline from the pinky toe is real.😂
New York Rappers always downplay the Quad shooting , But They know Biggie and Puffy had some thing to do with it
How tf would you know what they know
Shut up 🤫
Puffy thought if they took Pac out, that could help Big take over in hip hop because Pac was bigger than Big.
@@nicolemoore04 Well he thought wrong
New York cats are pure trash. Pac exposed then and they still can’t get over it lol.
@@lovegod6097 Yes he definitely did, Pac & Suge had Puffy running like bytch
I respected B.I.G but I lost it all when he didn't left Bad Boy records immediately after his friend 2pac got shot down stairs the same building where they had the studio. A true friend would never continued working with Puffy. This entire video is a Gem💎
Then biggie himself probably would've gotten shot before his first album dropped. If puffy is really the snake most people say he is, then biggie leaving over the 2pac shooting would've rubbed puff the wrong way, not only because puffy would lose his main star power artist, but biggie would also be seen as a potential snitch.
Not Bigs fault, Puff set both of them up and his plan worked perfectly, Big was about to leave and call his own shots under Puff he was not calling the shots
U can't just leave a label
Do you know what a contract is 😂 ?
He cant just leave tf
he tried….paperwork a monster.
Bring me back memories so vividly how he trusts puffy and puffy and Jay-Z are what they are today because Tupac and Biggie are not here.
Spice1 was Pacs favorite rapper. Legend
Allegedly Biggie knew too, and tried to warn Pac beforehand about talking shit about the gangster that had it done in the first place. Puffy and Biggie kept quiet because they didn't have that kinda juice. Keep in mind at the time Biggie wasn't big time. He was just some upcoming local rapper. I'm not even sure his first album was out yet. I do agree that they at least should have warned him not to go to the studio. But I guess everyone was terrified of Jack 🤷🏾♂️
Spice 1 I still listen to his music
Biggie and Mike Tyson warned Pac about those dudes on several occasions but he wouldn’t listen….So why is it Puff and Biggie’s responsibility to get into that beef? He was at a recording session for Little Shawn not Biggie…. How about he should have just gave up his jewelry or better yet listened to Mike Tyson because he grew up with them dudes who shot Pac and he warned him about how grimy they were… they would have got Pac one way or another because he was messing with some real gangsters.
Thanks why other ppl are responsible?? They fuckin warned him!!!! So what? FUCK DAT
Facts they was some nortorious known gangster. Big and them were just kids to these guys. There would have been nothing they could have said or done to stop. Warning pac would have definitely put them at risk even if they would have known what was going down
They don't want to hear this, toooo much common sense. Their mindset "I hate Puff, so Puff did it."
@@puppyy5361 Haitian Jack, King Tut, Scooter, and Jimmy Henchmen were no joke. I cram to understand why no one ever holds Pac accountable for his choices. Everybody I named either doing a life sentence or deported Pac had no business around those guys.
@@Ðཞའo You hit the nail on the head they always want to say PAC was just a kid like Biggie was 42 or some shit he was a just a kid too and at that point of his life he was still living in the same hood (Brooklyn /East New York) with them guys.
I visited that Quad Studios in fall 2022, the elevator still has bullet holes in it.
Bout time you got the realest on! 🔥
The way he said “Biggie don’t seem like the type to do something like that, but PUFFY look like the type…😏”
I know rite?🧐
Puff always in some sh*t
Puffy was in on this. First off it’s his studio and there’s usually a sign in sheet for who comes in and who comes out. So he knew who was there.
Puffy and Jimmy Henchman were talking with each other
My Cousin Chico!! Keep up the good work Sir, you have the best interviews on this platform!! RESPECT ✊🏾!! I started following after the Jewel interview, I had to catch up, but you most definitely are the truth🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🤲🏾🙏🏾🖤
That's you in your profile picture
Thank you for this interview wit Spiggity 1
That is bad!!!! When Artist outside of Bad Boy speak about Puff like that is just wild. I am surprised dude (Puff) can even walk around and feel so safe!! #GoodDay
It been over 20 something years and these people still trying capitalize off pac death smh 🤦🏾♂️
@@jalenaverylloydaveryiisson8862 u a capital G for GOOFY 😂
He alive
THE LEGENDARY SPICE 1. He funny though, he said A CRAZY DUDE think everybody did it 😂😂
Fact’s
Spice1 I’m very disappointed at your opinion. Puffy did not own quad studios nor did they run New York. Biggie wasn’t really a gangster, he was a hustler with connections THATS IT. Nobody in New York would ever bow down to PDiddy, Diddy hates street activity. Big Warned PAC About those guys and PAC Didn’t listen at all. Big put his life on the line just by telling warning PAC. PAC is my favorite rapper but he got his self into all that mess by being hot headed
Puffy under fire right now
Spice 1 is one of the last loyal and tru to the game out there! No fake conversations about everybody is good and everything is fine... just talk about his truth
Biggie and pac been dead for almost 30 years and still two hot topics. I KNOW THATS RIGHT!
Feel like we’ll be talking about this for another 30+ years, my daughters love 2pac & biggie & ones 4 the other is 2, so I’m sure they’ll look into them when they get to 16/17
good to see the homie Spice-1 on here.. he did a drop for my project years back.. legend in this music game 💪💪
I wish someone would explain how Biggie had something to gain from Tupac being shot at Quad…Pac was more of an ally and was beneficial to Big’s success, how did having Pac shot benefit Big??????
Noone thinks Big had anything to do with. There aren't tht many big time black folk so they rub shoulders. Most of the big NY guys knew or knew of Henchman and Haitian... Whether or not Puff knew... Who knows... Could Jimmy have let Puff know.... Sure... Would he? Who knows
@@jalenaverylloydaveryiisson8862 troll
I think Puffy wanted him out the picture so Big could take over because at the time Pac was bigger than he was
Big could have felt some type of way toward Pac for saying those were his hammers in the hotel room. Also , if we believe Lil Shawn, he said Big told him that he tried to warn Pac about Jack and that Pac mentioned it to Someone in Jack camp and that Big got robbed?!? I have never heard anyone else tell that story, but I could think of a couple reasons why Big may have not said anything to Pac about what was being planned.
Jimmy, Puff and Big all asked Pac to sign to Bad Boy. Pac declined. End of story.
This is the best interview
Good interview
Spice 1 one of the real ones 💯💯💯
Coolin on the corner with the cellular phone you could tell that the Eastbay was his home more mail than the rest of the pushers cause he got a tech nine in the bushes and that's how the shit was handled first name Jack last name Daniels had 2 boys named E & J E had the 9 and J the AK
I wonder how puffy feels that if he had just called pac and told him they were there, pac and big would be alive
Puffy was a snake. He knew about pac and biggie. Now look at him, living off everybody else’s success
Great video
I think Puff had something to do wit it. But Biggie did IN FACT try to warn Pac about Jimmy n Jack the week before Quad Studio, which he may or may not have had knowledge about what they were gonna do
To tell u tha Truth Spiggity 1 u da first gangsta rapper that I ever heard that had me in Stunned No Cap..my homie was Playin ‘money gone’ on copied cassette tape..most people wasn’t even listening to Rap then .I said who is that..I ddnt leave til I had your tape In my hand.. had it on repeat everyday..1st time I fell in love with rap.. True Story You Legend
I always heard spice 1’s music in the early 90s but didn’t know his name. The song Born To Die on Tales From The Hood soundtrack got me hooked immediately to him. I love his music. I’m surprised he’s never been featured on trap and drill music.
SPICE 1 SPEAKING THE TRUTH...
If Biggie would have warned Pac about the hit, Pac would have ran his mouth and Biggie would have got lit for warning him.If that was the case.
Exactly just like when biggie warned pac the first time about fucking with jack and them and he told jack and puffy had to pay jack to leave big alone
he actually did warn Pac, just nothin specific but he for sure told him that was grimy niggas
You gotta anotha real one art👍👍
"on the slunder" WOW that is some old school 90's Bay area right there
I'm in tears over here. This Nigga my childhood.
Funny how everyone on here tells Tupac version but when you see interviews of other people who were actually there it's different it wasn't puffy studio junior Mafia was doing a session in the same studio he was going to...and PAC was going to see lil Shawn not puffy or Biggie....
Then why lil cease called him from the top of the building... Pac was going to enter from the side entrance then lil cease called him then pac went inside from the main entrance where the Assailants were waiting for him
Hmm
@@viwempofu6364 he called him because he recognized Tupac plus Tupac was always wearing a bandana at that time so Lil Cease acknowledged him because that was his homie.
Puffy was supposed to be going there because of Big being there on the 8th floor recording with JM. However they claim they didn't even know Puff was there on the 6th floor. They were having a party on the 6th floor. According to Lil Shawn Puff had been there for hours before the shooting happened. Pac kept changing his mind about going. Also, there is an interview with Pras from Fugees who claimed he was with Pac that day and was supposed to go to Quad with them, but that he got a call from someone telling him not to come. My question for him would have been did you tell Pac and Stretch and the others what someone just told you?!?!
This channel is Bias, they only interview people who have negative things to say about Puff or Snoop but tell positive godlike Tupac stories.
It’s common sense puffy didn’t care for Tupac at all he was jealous of him
Look at how puffy played shine.
From the moment when Pac first got shot back in 94 on the elevator was when everything spiraled out of control.
I've been saying for yrs Puffy Orchestrated Pacs and Biggies death. You can feel.it in his song, Will always love big papa... SHEEP
Why the Hell are we still talking a out Biggie setting Tupac up at Quad when it's been established Jimmy Henchman set that up? Getting real sick of the narrative
This guy art is obsessed with diddy! Damn 🤣.....Pac knew who set him up.... But I guess big and puff was easy to blame.....
Money grab
Man that story at the beginning was so good
I'm still obsessed with death row stories..... thought I heard it all but these stories keep coming
Much love for spice1 💪🏾