I keep saying this, but this game was nowhere near as close as the final score makes it look. GB massively outplayed the Bears, but just a few plays and calls fell the Bears' way to keep points off the board.
And Love only threw 5 incompletions all game. If the packers were given credit for those 2 TD’s, Love has 4 passing TD’s and 3 incompletions. *MORE PASSING TD’S THAN INCOMPLETIONS*
Not just drops either. Drops on absolute dime passes by Love. First one he was rolling right and throws a perfect high touch pass just out of reach of the defenders and the other was an absolute laser beam he squeezed past 2 defenders into the tiniest of windows. Gotta have both of those if they want to win in the playoffs.
No Sam, there haven't been "runs" that Love has gone on where he regressed this season. There was one run of a few games where he seemed off, and the rest has been top ten quarterback play. I just learned that Sam is a Vikings fan, so that explains why he can't see through the lens of his emotions. That said, this is your job, do better.
As for 'why wasn't he better early?'... It's his first year starting. He has all rookie and first year receivers, banged up RBs, they lost Bakhtiari after one game and then the (also young) line was in flux for several weeks. He still needs to improve his footwork and sure, we can't know what the ceiling is now. But COME ON guys, there's no sensible reason to think he's going back to the level he was at his first 8 games.
It's been faintly hilarious observing Sam as a Vikings fan dealing with the cognitive dissonance in recent weeks at the prospect of another one rolling off the production line in Green Bay 😅
With 32 TDs and taking the youngest NFL team into the playoffs after a 2-5 start, Jordan Love really should be in the conversation for MVP this season. His passing completion rate of 84% and 7 of 8 3rd down conversions vs. the Bears in a pressure filled (win or go home) game was the best performance of any Packer QB that I have watched…and I started watching with Bart Starr.
I think people confuse takes like this with 'should win MVP'. I don't think any of us think Love should win MVP, but Stroud has a few weeks as part of that conversation.. it'd be nice to see Love get a little shine. I think this is where the Favre->Rodgers->Love bit hurts him. It's becoming 'well, yeah, of course' and being discounted. If it was one of those years with two guys approaching 50 TDs I'd get it.. but there's no runaway favorite.
@@chlly There really should be a breakout player of the year award, so people stop jamming players that excelled exceptionally into the MVP Conversation
Packers... missed a 40 yd FG - 3 pts Didn't get a kick off at the end of half - 3pts Dropped a TD (call reversed) - 4 pts Fumbled on their way to another scoring drive - 3-7 pts This game could / should have easily been 30 / 34 to 9. The thoroughly outplayed the Bears every step of the way and it was only close due to some miscues and flukey plays. This team has the talent to play w/ anyone.
We need to stop saying love is incredibly streaky when he has had 7/8 of his last games with a passer rating over 108 he has been playing at a mvp level since November rookies/young guys are notoriously more streaky he will only get more consistent as he develops
Ummm...they were inconsistent early in the year because he had rookie WRs who were still learning the offense and had to deal with injuries to many top players. I don't understand how you can have a national show and not include such obvious context in a TEAM game.
As a packer fan this felt like playing drunk Guitar Hero. We'd get some crazy score multiplayer going and then a single misspress destroyed our progress.
bears defense has objectively been a top 3 defense since mid season. he carved them up. also, vikings defense was also pretty good in DVOA rankings before that SNF game@@lucrative6477
The PFF guys may have missed context earlier in the year. A play marked down as bad for. "missed throw" or "sack taken" may not have had the context of "watson ran the incorrect route and that blew up the play." JT O'Sullivan had some great insights into this in his videos and it was common in the early season for Jordan Love to be out-playing his offense and putting up poor stats.
The thing is these guys are talking about stock market games sure there’s always gonna be better weeks then others this is his FIRST year starting there’s gonna be GROWING pains he showed potential the first few games to what he could be he then hit those growing pains NOW through time and progression even in a SHORT amount of time he’s showing what he can do and be he can’t only get BETTER and or even out to keep the level he’s at consistent
The Packers and Jordan Love made the Bears draft decision easy. Bears management can look at the results and note the Packers quarterback remains significantly better than our QB. We can pay our QB $40 million per and lose two games each season to Green Bay, or we can get a top prospect with the top pick on a cheap contract for four years. It's a no brainer with the top draft pick.
you are comparing him with stafford but you cant forget that his inconsistency earlier in the season his due to his lack of games. We only can judge next season, or at least since the second half of the season when he already had some reps
Rodgers couldn't stand his receivers. I think this is Love having all his receivers over to his house weekly for collective film study. He gets more from his receivers because he is good at Rodgers greatest weakness, Leadership and Likeability by his teammates.
The Bears didn't call a pass in the entire 3rd quarter. Fields had rushers coming through the C and BOTH Gs the whole game. What exactly could he have done differently?
The bald guy has the funniest accent / speech impediment I’ve ever heard. He can’t say hand. He says haund. But he says all no problem, he says and no problem, but for some reason he says haund and not hand.
The only time the Bears were successful on offense yesterday was when Justin was throwing the ball, yet Getsy only allowed him to throw the ball 16 times. 16 times.... In 2024. He went 11/16 for 150 yards. Our RBs had 30 attempts with an average of 1.4 yards per carry, yet Getsy kept calling the same dumb pistol toss that didn't work the entire game. Let Fields play. Again, the only success they had was when he was throwing, so Getsy's response was to only allow him to throw 16 times. Make it make sense.
Still waiting on pff to admit drafting quay walker was the smart choice and Sam’s man crush on nakobe dean shows why he should stop with the football analysis
What made it 17 points was Tyrique Stevenson with the defense vs TD pass to Doebs, the tackle at end of half to deny the clock stop and the forced fumble. Remember Sam killed the Bears over that pick.
Not sure how, but you forgot to mention that the packers had 2 dropped touchdown passes....thats why the score was close.
It should have been 34 to 9.
I keep saying this, but this game was nowhere near as close as the final score makes it look. GB massively outplayed the Bears, but just a few plays and calls fell the Bears' way to keep points off the board.
And Love only threw 5 incompletions all game. If the packers were given credit for those 2 TD’s, Love has 4 passing TD’s and 3 incompletions. *MORE PASSING TD’S THAN INCOMPLETIONS*
Not just drops either. Drops on absolute dime passes by Love. First one he was rolling right and throws a perfect high touch pass just out of reach of the defenders and the other was an absolute laser beam he squeezed past 2 defenders into the tiniest of windows. Gotta have both of those if they want to win in the playoffs.
@@williamhermann6635if it were mahomes it would be everywhere
No Sam, there haven't been "runs" that Love has gone on where he regressed this season. There was one run of a few games where he seemed off, and the rest has been top ten quarterback play. I just learned that Sam is a Vikings fan, so that explains why he can't see through the lens of his emotions. That said, this is your job, do better.
As for 'why wasn't he better early?'... It's his first year starting. He has all rookie and first year receivers, banged up RBs, they lost Bakhtiari after one game and then the (also young) line was in flux for several weeks.
He still needs to improve his footwork and sure, we can't know what the ceiling is now. But COME ON guys, there's no sensible reason to think he's going back to the level he was at his first 8 games.
It's been faintly hilarious observing Sam as a Vikings fan dealing with the cognitive dissonance in recent weeks at the prospect of another one rolling off the production line in Green Bay 😅
I didn’t know he was a Vikings fan, but it all makes so much sense now lol
@@Grable424Me either, this does explain a lot.
Oh man, that explains everything! Sam's takes on Love have been embarrassing.
I was wondering why he's always waiting for Love to become bad.
With 32 TDs and taking the youngest NFL team into the playoffs after a 2-5 start, Jordan Love really should be in the conversation for MVP this season. His passing completion rate of 84% and 7 of 8 3rd down conversions vs. the Bears in a pressure filled (win or go home) game was the best performance of any Packer QB that I have watched…and I started watching with Bart Starr.
Plus 4 rushing. Love accounted for 36 TDs. Tied with Prescott for 1st.
I think people confuse takes like this with 'should win MVP'. I don't think any of us think Love should win MVP, but Stroud has a few weeks as part of that conversation.. it'd be nice to see Love get a little shine.
I think this is where the Favre->Rodgers->Love bit hurts him. It's becoming 'well, yeah, of course' and being discounted. If it was one of those years with two guys approaching 50 TDs I'd get it.. but there's no runaway favorite.
@@ihcterra4625 Might wanna take a look at Josh Allen again. Passing and rushing, he has 44 TD's this year.
@@chlly As far as "Valuable" goes, it should 100% be Stroud or Love. Both of those teams pick top 5 in the draft if you take those QB's off the team.
@@chlly There really should be a breakout player of the year award, so people stop jamming players that excelled exceptionally into the MVP Conversation
Jayden Reed, Dontayvion Wicks, Tucker Kraft, Luke Musgrave and Bo Melton are all rookies and Love just turned 25 2 months ago. Good lord
Love did it for about half the season.
This isn't a Stafford 3-4 times a season.
Packers...
missed a 40 yd FG - 3 pts
Didn't get a kick off at the end of half - 3pts
Dropped a TD (call reversed) - 4 pts
Fumbled on their way to another scoring drive - 3-7 pts
This game could / should have easily been 30 / 34 to 9. The thoroughly outplayed the Bears every step of the way and it was only close due to some miscues and flukey plays. This team has the talent to play w/ anyone.
Early in the season, there were a ton of offensive line issues. Love got better when the line play improved.
The WRs also dropped fewer passes.
@@ihcterra4625 True. The penalties were the real kicker. All the holding and false start calls made the team unwatchable the 1st half of the season.
@@claudekenni8355 Yep. Part of being such a young team.
@@claudekenni8355Yes. It was 2nd and 20 or 3rd and 17 every damn drive for a month. That killed their offense drive after drive after drive.
He played better when you played worse defenses, like the bears.
We need to stop saying love is incredibly streaky when he has had 7/8 of his last games with a passer rating over 108 he has been playing at a mvp level since November rookies/young guys are notoriously more streaky he will only get more consistent as he develops
Ummm...they were inconsistent early in the year because he had rookie WRs who were still learning the offense and had to deal with injuries to many top players. I don't understand how you can have a national show and not include such obvious context in a TEAM game.
Love aint had a bad game in 8 weeks knock it off dude
As a packer fan this felt like playing drunk Guitar Hero. We'd get some crazy score multiplayer going and then a single misspress destroyed our progress.
For his last 8 games, Love has had a 112. 7 passer rating.
That would be impressive if he didn’t play a bunch of nfc north teams during that time. Any decent qb looks good against those defenses.
bears defense has objectively been a top 3 defense since mid season. he carved them up. also, vikings defense was also pretty good in DVOA rankings before that SNF game@@lucrative6477
Jared goff was awful twice against that bears defense, as was kyler murray@@lucrative6477
The chiefs, bears, lions, and Vikings, and panthers are all top 1/3 of the league since week 8 defensively
The PFF guys may have missed context earlier in the year. A play marked down as bad for. "missed throw" or "sack taken" may not have had the context of "watson ran the incorrect route and that blew up the play." JT O'Sullivan had some great insights into this in his videos and it was common in the early season for Jordan Love to be out-playing his offense and putting up poor stats.
If Love ends up being as good as Stafford,I'll be thrilled and say it was a great pick.
The backhanded compliments are pretty petty. You compared him to stafford and didn’t bring up stats to prove it.
The thing is these guys are talking about stock market games sure there’s always gonna be better weeks then others this is his FIRST year starting there’s gonna be GROWING pains he showed potential the first few games to what he could be he then hit those growing pains NOW through time and progression even in a SHORT amount of time he’s showing what he can do and be he can’t only get BETTER and or even out to keep the level he’s at consistent
Don't even compare Purdey with Love. Put Purdey on the Packers; he's not having any of those numbers.
Purdy would have been benched
Delusional
@@lucrative6477 49er fans; yes.
@@DaveRuns13.1 why did you like your own comment lol. Sad.
Fields is good, but probably not good enough to pass up on the number 1 pick again.
The Packers and Jordan Love made the Bears draft decision easy. Bears management can look at the results and note the Packers quarterback remains significantly better than our QB. We can pay our QB $40 million per and lose two games each season to Green Bay, or we can get a top prospect with the top pick on a cheap contract for four years. It's a no brainer with the top draft pick.
you are comparing him with stafford but you cant forget that his inconsistency earlier in the season his due to his lack of games. We only can judge next season, or at least since the second half of the season when he already had some reps
So how do you finish second in touchdown passes if he wasn't consistent 🤔
Rodgers couldn't stand his receivers. I think this is Love having all his receivers over to his house weekly for collective film study. He gets more from his receivers because he is good at Rodgers greatest weakness, Leadership and Likeability by his teammates.
The Bears didn't call a pass in the entire 3rd quarter. Fields had rushers coming through the C and BOTH Gs the whole game. What exactly could he have done differently?
idk maybe be a actual good player? seems easy enough
@@Love2Musgrave Is this an actual sentence?
Call protection better. Hit the hot WR, anticipate, etc.
@@t0ny_708 A sentence? Yes. A good one? No. But it gets the point across.
Some people post with phones. It makes typing much more difficult.
False, they did call passes. Fields ran or got sacked on them and the drives ended quickly. They barely were on the field
The bald guy has the funniest accent / speech impediment I’ve ever heard. He can’t say hand. He says haund. But he says all no problem, he says and no problem, but for some reason he says haund and not hand.
The only time the Bears were successful on offense yesterday was when Justin was throwing the ball, yet Getsy only allowed him to throw the ball 16 times. 16 times.... In 2024. He went 11/16 for 150 yards. Our RBs had 30 attempts with an average of 1.4 yards per carry, yet Getsy kept calling the same dumb pistol toss that didn't work the entire game. Let Fields play. Again, the only success they had was when he was throwing, so Getsy's response was to only allow him to throw 16 times. Make it make sense.
He called 6 run plays in a row. Getsy was a plant. His loyalty still with the Packers.
The score was closer than it should have been...they embarrassed the Bears could have been way worse 😳
Y’all are talking about him like he’s been starting for 3 years
Still waiting on pff to admit drafting quay walker was the smart choice and Sam’s man crush on nakobe dean shows why he should stop with the football analysis
What made it 17 points was Tyrique Stevenson with the defense vs TD pass to Doebs, the tackle at end of half to deny the clock stop and the forced fumble. Remember Sam killed the Bears over that pick.
Go Pack!
Just admit you were premature in your trash assessment of JLove. Your computers let you down
day to day? lol don’t know ball