If it can be pulled off in Radiant, not just holding your own, but frequently getting a positive KDA, then it might change the future of how FPS games are played. I’m curious to see how this goes!
it wont. The large buy in price + the additional drawbacks of a 3d game removing its objective advantages from games like osu means it'll never see mass adoption. At most it will be a gimmicky thing that lets people get clout on twitch (think dasnerth). Unlike osu theres no point re learning an aiming medium for this game since theres no objective advantage and arguably a disadvantage in terms of the distance you can turn before having to pick up your hand.
Unfortunately dasnerth hasn’t brought about an era of controller players so it’s tough to say that just competitive viability would be enough to encourage its usage. Mice are still the de facto and tablets are expensive + need adjusting to, so we’d really need to find something a tablet does BETTER than a mouse.
@@crunchman8070 The issue is that dasnerth has a very specific playstyle with shotguns that allows him to use a controller, which is not going to be widely adopted because it is not versatile. If tablets can be proven to have as much control for aim as a mouse does, who's to say the switch won't happen? Only time will tell :)
this has the potential to be big in this industry seeing as how keyboards eveolved from full size to 60% and mice getting lighter and more snappy, I could deffinetly see pen being used at the top level of play. This will take time but hey if this man can hit immortal with a pen before i can hit ascent with a mouse its gotta be working.
I can see how this can develope because of how accurate and how many joints you have to be able to make really accurate adjustments that a mouse being used by the hand cant do. This is fire
I really think vertical gaming mice could be goated for similar reasons. The pen is like half in between palm orientation of traditional and vertical. Having all 3 as options would be great.
Kariyu's master plan to get tablet manufacturers to create high polling rate tablets that osu! players could benefit from. Pretty epic, thank you Kariyu 👑
Im so happy to see someone doing this, I've been questioning why no one has talks about using tablets for FPS for years, but I never got into FPS games enough to be good at mouse, so my tablet attempts were never really a good exploration of the tool in this context.
I literally had this idea when I first started Valorant. I thought having a pen-like mouse would be very cool. But I didn't have the resources to make it come true. So seeing this makes me so happy 😁
Yo i originally discovered this channel through osu but now i play more val and i always loved your pen playstyle and now that youre back to it imma watch every Single vid of yours
Something that could allow you to still do full 180s while reducing how shaky your aim is is mouse acceleration. It allows for a lower sensitivity, so higher precision, when you’re moving your mouse (or pen) slower, and increases it whenever it’s moving quickly. Could be something to look into, though I don’t actually know if it works with tablet/pen (although I can’t think of any good reason why it wouldn’t). I personally use RawAccel, but there are other mouse acceleration programs out there.
@@stringbeanplepeda1632 It won’t if you use a proper fully customizeable mouse acceleration thing like RawAccel. The reason why mouse accel has always had a bad rep is because windows default mouse accel has a such a trash curve thats just unusable for fps games, and the same could be said for most games that have their own mouse accel setting In reality Mouse accel can just be as good if not potentially better than raw input with a properly made curve
much harder skill curve to use mouse accel though, i remember i tried it back in bronze in valorant and made it to silver 1 but when i switched to normal i quickly rose to plat and diamond
I used to play with a tablet in valorant before I even knew you existed. Remnants of my gameplay exist on tiktok and twitch clips haha. But I used to right click with the side button on my pen. I never thought of binding it to alt 😭😭😭 I quit valorant bc of school but watching this makes me tempted to resume it. I was never nearly as good as you I think I peaked low gold but it was still fun :))
Holy shit, a guy with a pen over ranks me and even bests me in aim all at the same time. You've got some talent bro, I kind of thought that using this kind of method for precise aim is hard since heads are so small but you can handle flicks and precision aiming just as well as most mouse players. It's actually extremely satisfying watching these pen method videos so I'm gonna check out more of your vids, keep it up brother!
Nice Video! I watched your old Pen videos awhile back and decided to try it. I ended up really enjoying it and upgrading to a bigger tablet. Excited to see you make more content and take the Pen as far as you can.
@@Kariyu101 i watched your video too, I hit diamond with it but it broke and no longer works. I'd buy another one but im like 50 off, you still inspired me though
respect the guy for testing on unrated first, first tool we learn to use is a pen or a pencil/crayon so if the tech is their this aiming method will be 10x better than a mouse its more natural and nothing gets more precise than this
I was new to valorant and got bored of using my mouse one day due to the fact it started bugging me. then I remembered oh ya I have a pen tablet and I have played Osu where I failed but it could be fun to try. I don't really use the tablet tho so I expected it to be uncomfortable but I still enjoyed it. I was playing with a few of my friends and they all made fun of me for it but I found that my aim was way better with the pen tablet for some reason and resorted to using it as my mouse instead from then on. it has been like this for a week and I just found this video. I thought I was crazy but it is nice to know that I was not the first person to try it although disappointing. I just got access to ranked but after seeing you reach gold using a pen tablet I now know that there is indeed hope for me. thank you. keep up the good work!!! sub +1
God you make me want to go back to my drawing pen to play val now T_T this was a year ago, but my mouse broke, and I couldnt afford a new one so I used my drawing tablet instead, it took some time to adjust but afterwards, it was amazing. Flicking felt way easier, and I managed to get a higher rank with a drawing tablet instead of my mouse. Its def such a satisfying feeling when you tell people you're using a pen and they're so shook and cant believe you XD
yo, another way to drop the shakiness is to enable the angle snapping option to draw straight lines. for regular m&k it can be good, but for pen it could work wonders
I played CSGO when I got my first drawing tablet for a month around 6 or 7 years ago. It barely worked and when it did, it was a climb to get used to it. So seeing that it’s more than viable now makes me want to buy a new drawing tablet when I buy a new PC just to give it a go again.
nah I remembered last night to watch PenZ again because there was one video where it displayed his gridshot and I wondered how much he got again, and little did I know. Today he uploads ANOTHER PENZ LIKE YOOOOO that's hella crazy
Played with a sketch tablet in R6 as a joke a few years ago and had better aim then with a mouse because my hand shakes a lot with the slightest bit of pressure. Stopped using it because most games I play are made only for mouse use and it wasn’t my sketch tablet.
The thing is that why people don't draw with mouse is that it is hard to be precise but tablet help to increase the precision to almost 90%. I'm curious how well it gonna work with FPS games. Gonna try it out, such a good idea
this inspired me to try this myself and I found that its better for me to have ALT for left click and tapping for right click, it makes it easier for me to aim and to do flicks because when i tap i shake a little so moving that to the other hand makes my aim steadier
This video is tempting me to hop on tablet again on FPS games LMAO On a side note really happy to see you try pen again and I'm curious to see where you go with it 👀
i tried using a tablet aswell and when i move my pen faster it kinda doesnt do anything so i cannot turn around quick enough.. does anyone know why that could be the case? im using a gaoman s620 if that has to do anything with it
I also used a pen tablet in val, although my tablet is really small (16 x 9.8 cm). Played around with it for a while and can't seem to come back to mouse gaming due to how light the pen is. Though I'm still around silver in skill, I will keep on playing with it.
Are you able or have you synced the movements of you playing a game of valorant with you pen to a drawing pad to see how your movements draw out like? Also an added note. I sure there is some sort of device you can use or make to strap the pen to your one finger. That way you are far less focused on holding the pen and more focused on using the pen.
I've been playing Val on pen since I got my first tablet late July last year. Works well, but I don't think it's better than mouse, mainly because it lacks precision. Until you shoot, there is no friction between the pen and tablet so it's hard to accurate when aiming at small targets. I play low sens to counteract this, but then you cant look very far without lifting the pen. Which is why I went from an S620 to a Huion G930L (345.44x215.9mm). It's definitely possible to get radiant and I don't think it's unthinkable that someone could play at a pro level on pen.
@@iagree4686 That's true but then you lose a finger on your left hand. The thumb has the least priority, so I guess you could use that to shoot, and since you're typically not shooting and jumping at the same time it'd work out. But me personally, I wouldn't be able to learn to shoot with my left hand. Definitely an option though.
I like how im using mouse and Have been since the game came out and then this hops over and just gets diamond so easy while im stuck in silver. Video like these make me question my life choices
I watched your old video too, I hit diamond with it but it broke and no longer works. I'd buy another one but im like 50 off, you still inspired me though. Keep it up
I've considered shooting with my keyboard hand for a long time. I have a problem over gripping the mouse too hard when I click and it makes my aim less smooth. You've inspired me to really try out more unique control settings!
As an artist who play Val, I want to try this... Except I am left handed and my drawing tablet is a screen. But hey, never say never. Maybe this is my ambidextrous training arc
I'm a leftie and I'm not sure how this would affect us- unless you mean switching to using a keyboard to your right hand. I'm using a leftie mouse and if that's your concern, it's not that big of a deal- it's a little awk for the first day or two, then you get used to it the more you do it.
Doubt it, it was more successful in osu cause it's 2D aiming thus absolute positioning helps a lot to build muscle memory. As for FPS games...you can't even use the main advantage of the tablet so I honestly don't see how it could be any better than a mouse (unless gripping a pen is easier for you than a mouse)
Streaming my ranked progress regularly on twitch.tv/Kariyu
i cant get it working i turned om relative mode and its not registering my input any ideas?
@@OliWo1i read the comment faq of the video in the description
@@Kariyu101 ty babe
if tablets get allowed in VCT, you and 4 other r34 artists can clap all rosters.
lmao
LMAO ☠☠
Lmao
@@duckblug609 bro thinks vct is all aim no brain ☠
@@mscd3768 its a joke and then no wonder you aren't in it, you have neither
The real reason you're able to hit those shots isn't because tablet is viable, it's that sick tablet cover that's carrying you
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Risuuu
YOU ARE KING ! !
that tablet cover IS KING
@@Kariyu101 what's the tablet cover?
If it can be pulled off in Radiant, not just holding your own, but frequently getting a positive KDA, then it might change the future of how FPS games are played. I’m curious to see how this goes!
it wont. The large buy in price + the additional drawbacks of a 3d game removing its objective advantages from games like osu means it'll never see mass adoption. At most it will be a gimmicky thing that lets people get clout on twitch (think dasnerth). Unlike osu theres no point re learning an aiming medium for this game since theres no objective advantage and arguably a disadvantage in terms of the distance you can turn before having to pick up your hand.
Totally could
Unfortunately dasnerth hasn’t brought about an era of controller players so it’s tough to say that just competitive viability would be enough to encourage its usage. Mice are still the de facto and tablets are expensive + need adjusting to, so we’d really need to find something a tablet does BETTER than a mouse.
@@crunchman8070 The issue is that dasnerth has a very specific playstyle with shotguns that allows him to use a controller, which is not going to be widely adopted because it is not versatile. If tablets can be proven to have as much control for aim as a mouse does, who's to say the switch won't happen? Only time will tell :)
@@RezzpektMVP sorry, but no
i like how the shots in 3:15 match the song so well
this has the potential to be big in this industry seeing as how keyboards eveolved from full size to 60% and mice getting lighter and more snappy, I could deffinetly see pen being used at the top level of play. This will take time but hey if this man can hit immortal with a pen before i can hit ascent with a mouse its gotta be working.
PenZ is back :3
I can see how this can develope because of how accurate and how many joints you have to be able to make really accurate adjustments that a mouse being used by the hand cant do. This is fire
I really think vertical gaming mice could be goated for similar reasons. The pen is like half in between palm orientation of traditional and vertical. Having all 3 as options would be great.
Kariyu's master plan to get tablet manufacturers to create high polling rate tablets that osu! players could benefit from. Pretty epic, thank you Kariyu 👑
You should definitely make this a really long series comprised of cut-up clips from a stream like what Keeoh does!
I'd 100% watch a series if he made one
:>
Im so happy to see someone doing this, I've been questioning why no one has talks about using tablets for FPS for years, but I never got into FPS games enough to be good at mouse, so my tablet attempts were never really a good exploration of the tool in this context.
I literally had this idea when I first started Valorant. I thought having a pen-like mouse would be very cool. But I didn't have the resources to make it come true. So seeing this makes me so happy 😁
Yo i originally discovered this channel through osu but now i play more val and i always loved your pen playstyle and now that youre back to it imma watch every Single vid of yours
Something that could allow you to still do full 180s while reducing how shaky your aim is is mouse acceleration. It allows for a lower sensitivity, so higher precision, when you’re moving your mouse (or pen) slower, and increases it whenever it’s moving quickly. Could be something to look into, though I don’t actually know if it works with tablet/pen (although I can’t think of any good reason why it wouldn’t). I personally use RawAccel, but there are other mouse acceleration programs out there.
It might honestly work but may feel unnatural with a pen
i feel like mouse acceleration would make it nearly impossible to build the correct muscle memory for different aim adjustments
@@stringbeanplepeda1632 It won’t if you use a proper fully customizeable mouse acceleration thing like RawAccel. The reason why mouse accel has always had a bad rep is because windows default mouse accel has a such a trash curve thats just unusable for fps games, and the same could be said for most games that have their own mouse accel setting
In reality Mouse accel can just be as good if not potentially better than raw input with a properly made curve
much harder skill curve to use mouse accel though, i remember i tried it back in bronze in valorant and made it to silver 1 but when i switched to normal i quickly rose to plat and diamond
The constant position from the pen is that what is better than a moise .. Acceleration wouldnt work
I used to play with a tablet in valorant before I even knew you existed. Remnants of my gameplay exist on tiktok and twitch clips haha. But I used to right click with the side button on my pen. I never thought of binding it to alt 😭😭😭
I quit valorant bc of school but watching this makes me tempted to resume it. I was never nearly as good as you I think I peaked low gold but it was still fun :))
this was a really well-made video kariyu!! keep it up 👑
Holy shit, a guy with a pen over ranks me and even bests me in aim all at the same time. You've got some talent bro, I kind of thought that using this kind of method for precise aim is hard since heads are so small but you can handle flicks and precision aiming just as well as most mouse players. It's actually extremely satisfying watching these pen method videos so I'm gonna check out more of your vids, keep it up brother!
Just saw the last video, and the engaging editing made me come back to where it all started.
Looking forward to see how pen(is) became inmortal!
Happy to see penz is back :)
Nice Video! I watched your old Pen videos awhile back and decided to try it. I ended up really enjoying it and upgrading to a bigger tablet. Excited to see you make more content and take the Pen as far as you can.
ooh which tablet?
@@Kariyu101 i watched your video too, I hit diamond with it but it broke and no longer works. I'd buy another one but im like 50 off, you still inspired me though
@@Kariyu101 xp pen deco 01 v2
3:14 that synced with the music cant lie
Tablet needs to be supported in more games tbh. Theres massive potential with it.
already watched all 6 minutes 39 seconds of the videos great vid
I'm sold on the content can't wait to see your journey! Keep it up!
The guardian is so underrated, its honestly really good. And its so much fun to use imo.
This guy is more insane than me even with a pen
5:15 that is cap kariyu, high end gaming mice have 15ms sensor delay at best. Compared to that a pen has only 7ms or less
www.rtings.com/mouse/tests/control/latency
Penz is back babbbyyy
Hell yeah lets fuckin go
i gotta try that one day. i never realy used my tablet but using it in val might seem like fun idea
respect the guy for testing on unrated first, first tool we learn to use is a pen or a pencil/crayon so if the tech is their this aiming method will be 10x better than a mouse its more natural and nothing gets more precise than this
I was new to valorant and got bored of using my mouse one day due to the fact it started bugging me. then I remembered oh ya I have a pen tablet and I have played Osu where I failed but it could be fun to try. I don't really use the tablet tho so I expected it to be uncomfortable but I still enjoyed it. I was playing with a few of my friends and they all made fun of me for it but I found that my aim was way better with the pen tablet for some reason and resorted to using it as my mouse instead from then on. it has been like this for a week and I just found this video. I thought I was crazy but it is nice to know that I was not the first person to try it although disappointing. I just got access to ranked but after seeing you reach gold using a pen tablet I now know that there is indeed hope for me. thank you. keep up the good work!!!
sub +1
bro with this skill level u really deserve some skins
4:54 That *_"Eyuhhhs"_* got me dead lmao!
God you make me want to go back to my drawing pen to play val now T_T this was a year ago, but my mouse broke, and I couldnt afford a new one so I used my drawing tablet instead, it took some time to adjust but afterwards, it was amazing. Flicking felt way easier, and I managed to get a higher rank with a drawing tablet instead of my mouse. Its def such a satisfying feeling when you tell people you're using a pen and they're so shook and cant believe you XD
I am so invested in this, I wanna see you succeed!
banger video!!!!
i've been trying to play with tablet for a minute and this was really informative.
0:52 YES! EXACTLY!
yo, another way to drop the shakiness is to enable the angle snapping option to draw straight lines. for regular m&k it can be good, but for pen it could work wonders
does he know
@@Kariyu101 rfr
@@Kariyu101let him cook bro
im dead as putting this playlist back on to sleep to so I can show support.
After watching this video im starting to believe i got a skill issue at gold
3:15 is in sync with the music i love it
he brought it back :0
i was from the warowl vid. u r still hitting nutty clips, hope u hit immo!
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
you can do it brotha, go and be the pioneer of this unexplored path
i see a cultured squirrel there........
bro is so good with the pen ;0
This brings a WHOLE new meaning to “Clicking Heads”
I played CSGO when I got my first drawing tablet for a month around 6 or 7 years ago. It barely worked and when it did, it was a climb to get used to it.
So seeing that it’s more than viable now makes me want to buy a new drawing tablet when I buy a new PC just to give it a go again.
this man is a mad lad for trying to beat the mouse that been king for all gaming history with a pen bro :D
nah I remembered last night to watch PenZ again because there was one video where it displayed his gridshot and I wondered how much he got again, and little did I know. Today he uploads ANOTHER PENZ LIKE YOOOOO that's hella crazy
Never in a mliion years did I think someone could be this cracked while using a pen. I really have zero excuses now LMFAO.
the grind is starting to day for me and you
Have you tried angle snapping + pen??
I thought of that too, i dont know if angle snapping is compatible with pen tho
Maybe someone needs to make a plugin for it
3:16 those bullets were on beat man damn
nice seeing the credit to warowl, i thought the thumbnail looked familiar
good vid btw, im a csgo player but this was a nice watch
imagine if this man join a high stakes valorant tournament and get atleast top 5 with tablet. it'll be huge
3:15 the way he syncs the bullets
Played with a sketch tablet in R6 as a joke a few years ago and had better aim then with a mouse because my hand shakes a lot with the slightest bit of pressure. Stopped using it because most games I play are made only for mouse use and it wasn’t my sketch tablet.
Finally, a video that wasn't boring.
Imagine you had those screen tablets (like the wacom screen table), I wonder how that would play out
it doesn’t work unfortunately since it’s a 2D screen 😭
@@Kariyu101 oh damn not even a driver that could help it? that sucks :/
The thing is that why people don't draw with mouse is that it is hard to be precise but tablet help to increase the precision to almost 90%. I'm curious how well it gonna work with FPS games. Gonna try it out, such a good idea
if this works and you reach radiant the whole game is gonna change😳
this inspired me to try this myself and I found that its better for me to have ALT for left click and tapping for right click, it makes it easier for me to aim and to do flicks because when i tap i shake a little so moving that to the other hand makes my aim steadier
This video is tempting me to hop on tablet again on FPS games LMAO
On a side note really happy to see you try pen again and I'm curious to see where you go with it 👀
true definition of skill and mastery
"I am willing to be that person"
-Kariyu
this was such a enjoyable watch. good video kariyu
i tried using a tablet aswell and when i move my pen faster it kinda doesnt do anything so i cannot turn around quick enough.. does anyone know why that could be the case? im using a gaoman s620 if that has to do anything with it
This was dope, mad entertaining brother
this is the greatest video of all time
goodluck man with getting to immortal
I also used a pen tablet in val, although my tablet is really small (16 x 9.8 cm). Played around with it for a while and can't seem to come back to mouse gaming due to how light the pen is. Though I'm still around silver in skill, I will keep on playing with it.
i really like how the beat syncs with the shots at 3:15 xD
Godspeed to you in this crazy journey
You could set up a donation goal to get a bigger table with a better polling rate. We wanna see how far this can go.
Good luck on your journey bro!
THIS MAN IS PLAYING VALORANT BETTER THAN ME WITH A PEN WTF
Are you able or have you synced the movements of you playing a game of valorant with you pen to a drawing pad to see how your movements draw out like?
Also an added note. I sure there is some sort of device you can use or make to strap the pen to your one finger. That way you are far less focused on holding the pen and more focused on using the pen.
Letsgooo new kariyu vid
I've been playing Val on pen since I got my first tablet late July last year. Works well, but I don't think it's better than mouse, mainly because it lacks precision. Until you shoot, there is no friction between the pen and tablet so it's hard to accurate when aiming at small targets. I play low sens to counteract this, but then you cant look very far without lifting the pen. Which is why I went from an S620 to a Huion G930L (345.44x215.9mm). It's definitely possible to get radiant and I don't think it's unthinkable that someone could play at a pro level on pen.
or you can drag the pen and use a keyboard bind to shoot
@@iagree4686 That's true but then you lose a finger on your left hand. The thumb has the least priority, so I guess you could use that to shoot, and since you're typically not shooting and jumping at the same time it'd work out. But me personally, I wouldn't be able to learn to shoot with my left hand. Definitely an option though.
This guy reached diamond with a pen and I’m hardstuck bronze for 2 years
I like how im using mouse and Have been since the game came out and then this hops over and just gets diamond so easy while im stuck in silver. Video like these make me question my life choices
I watched your old video too, I hit diamond with it but it broke and no longer works. I'd buy another one but im like 50 off, you still inspired me though. Keep it up
this is something i would love to try for a week
I'm gonna give this a go to see how comfortable it is. I get hand stiffness and some pain when I game so this might be good for me.
kariyu might have started a wave that might take over the whole of esports
I've considered shooting with my keyboard hand for a long time. I have a problem over gripping the mouse too hard when I click and it makes my aim less smooth. You've inspired me to really try out more unique control settings!
how is kariyu hit gold before i can hit silver and i'm using a mouse and hes using a tablet
this shit ain't fair
Im surprised no one has made a "the pen is mightier than the mouse" joke yet.
Try using “angle snapping” to fix the shaky aim problem
That's a sick tablet cover, KING is a W song
Ayunda risu right ? correct if i wrong
As an artist who play Val, I want to try this... Except I am left handed and my drawing tablet is a screen. But hey, never say never. Maybe this is my ambidextrous training arc
I'm a leftie and I'm not sure how this would affect us- unless you mean switching to using a keyboard to your right hand. I'm using a leftie mouse and if that's your concern, it's not that big of a deal- it's a little awk for the first day or two, then you get used to it the more you do it.
missed this series
i 100% believe with the right amount of time put into it, pen will be more accurate than mouse
Doubt it, it was more successful in osu cause it's 2D aiming thus absolute positioning helps a lot to build muscle memory. As for FPS games...you can't even use the main advantage of the tablet so I honestly don't see how it could be any better than a mouse (unless gripping a pen is easier for you than a mouse)
I've got a graphics tablet so that handeye co-ordinatation isn't much of an issue when I can just see where I'm painting lmao!
You got a new sub, amazing video dude.
I love mixing it up and playing Val with other inputs, definitely gonna be trying this.
если успел, участвую
I have no excuse now. This guy is playing with A PEN.
This guy must have godly beautiful handwriting at doctor's speed
This is a hole new meaning to tapping heads
I once saw him kill 3 duellists , with a pencil.