EcoFlow Delta Pro Setup and Test
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The EcoFlow Delta Pro is one of the very few units currently available that can truly run full 240v power to an entire house and power anything up to 7,200 watts of draw. Combining two Delta Pro units together makes this a beast of a solar generator and quite an amazing power station.
Watch how I put it all together and run my well pump, dryer, and everything else in the house with ease.
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*I love the Input/Output wattage function along with the % of charge remaining. solar **Generater.Systems** Well done.*
Nice setup! I'm currently working with their team setting up their new SHP (Smart Home Panel) connected to 2 Ecoflow Pros in our house. Ecoflow is definitely doing some innovative stuff that's also portable.
OUTSTANDING SETUP!!! (And... I might add... quite practical and clandestine!)
How did you talk to someone.. I haven’t had any luck
@@lavenderblue11 We wish the Patreon sight had an active chat of loyal viewers. Ben does answer your questions on Patreon. It's WELL WORTH joining!!
Thanks City Prepping. I love your channel and appreciate your honest feedback you give. Too often many RUclipsrs are just after making a quick buck.
After reading many reviews and watching a lot of videos, I chose this option for my first backup power station. ruclips.net/user/postUgkxHypYDKHAN93Lp2RQpfvU_ksc70wJ00pt I was between this and a larger option that could power a wider range of items, but the price/size/capacity blend seemed right for this unit. Hasn't gotten a ton of use yet, but the build quality is solid and it charges fine via the Rockpals solar panel I purchased to pair with it. One thing to note is that the screen is optimized for a top down viewing angle, which makes sense, but this means it washes out at other angles - especially low angles. Not a huge deal, but perhaps a better option for the display could be used to provide wider viewing angles.
I love, love, live this video. I have a condo and had this setup in my head, but was trying to figure out how to go about it. The mobile rack is genius, and the extra batteries. This is the setup I'm stealing... Thanks!
Server rack system is probably more efficient and affordable. Yeah even with having to get an all in one inverter/charger. My .02 also takes up less space/ larger capacity
so much better than a fixed in place DIY set up - in my opinion. If you needed to load those 6 units (and 240 power) into a truck and leave - you could.
Have a similar setup thanks to you of course; when I went shopping for the cart Uline was selling that small thing for more than a NSF certified 48 in. W x 72 in. H x 24 in. D unit. That cart can be had for much less than Uline sells it for. Just FYI to anyone shopping for one.
This has to be the most down to earth -realistic video so for that I have seen on solar power back up generators
Fantastic video! Was already looking at Ecoflow for a couple of years but your video gave me confidence to pull the trigger. I also bought the cart/wheels that you have - a tight fit but it works like a charm! Thanks !!!
I'm so glad it helped. Where did you end up getting your Delta Pro system from?
@@minutemanprep Direct from Ecoflow - they run specials all the time. Got money off, free dual fuel generator and some other freebies :)
Question: How did you setup your secondary electric panel? I'm about to hire an electrician to come and integrate the battery solution into the whole home but I have a ton of GFCI/AFCI circuit breakers in my main panel. Ecoflow was no help on this. Any tips/hints would be GREATLY appreciated :)
@@djboca The easiest option if you have two DPs like I do, is have your electrician install an Interlock Switch instead of transfer switch. The Interlock Switch allows you to run your whole electrical panel, whereas a transfer switch allows you to pre-select what circuits you want to run on a backup power system. I choose Interlock for that reason.
@@minutemanprep Thanks! I bought everything you had including the rack and wheels - if you figured it out so perfectly, why mess with perfection! Interlock Switch it is! I'll setup my appointment now that I have the right way to put it into the house :) Greatly appreciate the help!
What people are calling a solar generator is actually the solid state power station. The solar generator is the part that charges the power station using the sun. Also known as "solar panels".
You can also charge some solid state power stations with a "wind generator" as well as a vehicle generator. But most solid state power stations cannot charge themselves since they only provide stored power.
Or it's simply implied that solar panels are part of the setup SMH, why is there always someone who makes this comment in videos like this? Yeah obviously panels are needed for it to be a generator lol
Exactly! 100%! People always try to label something to try to make it sound like it's more than it is. It is not a generator!!! It is a power station!!! The "generator" part of the system is the panels... ONLY the panels! The batteries are the storage for the generator (panels)! 100% RogueOnTheRoad!
Really like your instructional videos about the Delta Pro. Exactly what I'm trying to do so your explanation matches what I encounter. Thanks.
I really do think the Delta Pro is incredible and id get 1 if it was needed but my Titan is enough for my lil home. The added technologies in lots of newer stuff are sweet but also may become irrelevant in grid down scenarios. Also brings a few more angles to have various issues pop up.
Reply: I agree with your point about newer technologies potentially becoming irrelevant in grid-down scenarios. That's why it's important to choose reliable power backup products like the Segway Portable PowerStation Cube Series. Its massive capacity, fast recharging, and waterproof technology make it a great choice for outdoor enthusiasts like us. Plus, the Smart APP Control feature is a handy tool for managing power flow. Stay prepared for any adventure!
I loved the story about the guys from the electrical company wondering how the heck do you have power without any sound of a gas generator.
Looking forward to seeing your episode on the Solar Panels. EcoFlow told me to disconnect my solar panels when there was little or no light as it could damage a circuit board.
Wow. So you’re supposed to disconnect the solar cable every evening/sunset and if you forget to do it in time you risk damaging it???
You are certainly paying a premium for the portability over server rack batteries. Still, the idea that I can buy one system that can back up my whole home as well as mount inside my off-grid trailer build when I go on trips is highly enticing.
Great video, Ben. What an impressive setup. You mentioned that a drawback to the system was not being able to over-panel. What is the max panel limit on each EFD Pro unit, in terms of max wattage. (I have a hard time "visualizing" volt limits.) Thanks!
It is possible to over panel but it's not easy and can't over panel very much. I'll have a video explaining all of that in detail.
The max wattage in panels I have figured out how to connect is about 2,500w. That maxes out the voltage and amperage of the charge parameter and I am still testing that over paneling setup in different weather conditions to see how well that works. So again, that will be in a future video. Basically the setup will be two sets of six panels for a total of 12 panels connected in a series/parallel setup to get to that 2500w setup. It's still a good amount over paneled power but not what I've been able to do before like I did with the Titan that had double the wattage whereas the Delta Pro is doing 58% more than the max wattage input. Still great for sure.
Oh, I thought u were going to be more specific with the wiring from Panel to Transfer Switch. That tiny little square where u plugged cable coming from Ecoflow was the Transfer switch? Darn, this was just a Pony show.
Amazing video. Thanks for the info!. Any video available of how you hooked up the transfer panel? Amp availability.. etc.. thabks again
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Excellent. Now, I need Delta Pro for my vocation home in rural Kenya.
Well, I need to say "Thank you" to Ben Gillmore for this review and recommendation of the ULINE rack.
I ordered it last night and received it at my door this afternoon.
So I just finished my installing my upgrade rack but now I feel so inadequate🤣.
This new rack makes it looks like I need 2 more EB's. 😉
It should be noted that there is a huge difference in quality, capacity and strength between the previous smaller racks I was using and the new ULINE rack.
I was VERY concerned as I had read some posts in this group where the small plastic casters on the smaller racks had broken causing the rack to tip over.
Not something I wanted to have happen to me with $16,000 worth of product on it.
So as soon as I saw the size and quality of the casters on this ULINE rack and the fact Ben Gillmore was pushing this thing around with 600 LBS on it like nothing, I knew I had to switch for the safety of my EcoFlow products.
The Bonus: I have room for 2 more EB's if I decide to order them.
What are the dimensions of the ULINE Rack and where do you purchase?
Would be great to see how you configured the transfer switch in more detail. What you did looks like it's a more seamless option than installing the Delta Pro Smart Panel? I'm not sure!
Th for the video. Have you considderd the ecoflow smart home panel? If no, why?
Great job and explanation! I just received mine and can't wait to hook them up!
It needs a connection on the DC side so low draw on one can even out the higher draw of the other and prevent one phase shutting off
i'd kill to have all 6 of them in my RV, right now i have a delta pro and a smart battery, it's good enough to run everything.
I bought the Dewalt shelving system for my same Ecoflow setup but like the cart with wheels better, you always need to be moving it around and that is what I had before I added the 2nd set of batteries but cart was too small for the 6 units. Darn, live and learn. BTW i have smart panel and 6- 400w Ecoflow panels, nice system combined with my natural gas generator think i'm covered.
Ben, you never cease to amaze me. Love your videos. God bless to you and your family.
Nice video. Thank you for sharing your setup and insights.
That would be a great idea. I want to see how powerful that setup would make.
Did anyone else notice that he kinda smiled when he mentioned _"the kid getting electrocuted on the big electric fence?"_ *lol* Great video. Thanks. New subscriber.
Impressive setup! I think the 240v feature of the EcoFlow just sold me on this solution (vs. the Titan). Thanks for the demo!
No problem, I agree. If you're interested in getting a kit or anything please consider ordering from poweredportablesolar.com/shop/ to help support the channel. Thanks :)
Sorry beginner question here. How did you get the big outlet on the wall to connect the ecoflow? What is it called? My house doesn't have one!
Beginner questions are always welcome here. The plug is called an "interlock switch." It allows you to connect a power source, solar or gas, to your main electrical panel. You turn off the main breaker from the grid, and then turn on the interlock switch. Then you can power your whole house if you have a 240v solar or gas setup. You can power up to the rated output of the solar or gas generator. It's generally very easy for an electrician to install. Usually less than $1,000 depending on the electrician and house setup. My plug is inside because I use solar and they don't off-gas. If I need to use gasoline then I will use a long heavy extension cable to keep the gas generator outside, run the cable inside to the plug, and power my house that way. If you still need to get any solar equipment please feel free to reach out to me at info@poweredportablesolar.com and I'd love to help.
You don't have it linked in the description, but where did you get the ss2-50 to l14-30p adapter? It's hard to find
This is the one that I use: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B099N6WFHH/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
@@minutemanprep I really appreciate it. I don't know why but I just cannot search anything and find that. Trying to piece together a exterior box with cords. I appreciate all the help!
Great job on RUclips video and amazing EcoFlow DELTA Pro 👍😎
Good demo Ben, damn where was this when I bought my Titan from you. I really wanted that 240 capability. I think I'll look into adding the EcoFlow so I can run my entire home!
I know, it's hard. The Titan is still an amazing system, I still have both of mine. The DP just took it's time and of course there will likely be new systems in the near future that beat out the DP too. Especially in tech, it's impossible to have the absolute best for very long because there is always something new coming out.
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Don't get me wrong I'm 100% happy with the Titan, it was money well spent. To your point about new systems coming out, I'm under the belief that these systems we are able to get now are it taking into account the current "situation" across the world so I don't have confidence of there being new development coming out.
The link you provided for the uline cart does not seem to go to the same product you are using in this video. I am putting too a system just like yours and would like to use the same setup you have, including the cart you stow it on - with the wheels. Did you have to order the wheels separately? And which shelving unit is the one in your video? Thanks!
Sorry, I forgot to add the link for the wheels that you have to buy separately. You can get the wheels here: www.uline.com/Product/Detail/H-1205WH-BL/Wire-Shelving-Accessories/Polyurethane-Casters-for-Wire-Shelving-Units-Set-of-4-Black?PDPRelatedItem=H-2945-34BL
Thanks for the quick response! I just ordered the cart & wheels! This should work great with my setup.
Gosh this is good. On the other hand wouldn't the Ecoflow Home Panel just do all of this automatically on a power outage?
Great little generators/battery back ups, with Solar in to really keep things going when energy isn't coming in!
A very engaging video.
I have the two Pros and two batteries, but will be adding two more batteries because solar in is maxing me out and it's only May.
Yes. We have the home panel and it takes most of this videos work out of the equation.
Now that is what I call a Delta Pro power rig.
Why not use an automatic xfer switch? It could be challenging if you are not home when the power goes out.
There isn't a standard one I'm aware of that works well with solar power stations. The EcoFlow Smart Home Panel is an auto transfer switch but since I test and use many different units, the Interlock Switch allows me to test and use different systems rather than being locked into the Delta Pro only forever.
Ben,
Great video! Thanks for the detailed review. What are the dimensions of your rack and where did you purchase?
Thank you. I got the rack from Uline, it's in the description of the video for the links. It works really well.
Did you consider the smart panel? I'm considering a smaller setup, but I am debating using their smart panel.
I didn't do the smart home panel because it only works with the DP system and I use many systems since I test this equipment out all of the time. Also the new Apollo that I will be reviewing in a couple of weeks should beat the Delta Pro and I didn't want to be stuck with the smart home panel. So I have to use a Manual Transfer Switch which is a little bit of a pain but I am okay with that.
How do you charge the EcoFlow Delta Pro setup when using it with the 240V hub? I saw one review that said it can't be done, but it sounds like you are able to with your backup gas/propane generators?
You should install smart panel then you can leave it connected and it will switch by it self. Bluetti had one adventage . You can setup how much of battery you want charged from solar and how much from grid
would this be a good option to run my home AC unit and a few other breakers during the whole summer?
Sadly no. For that you'll want the new Apollo coming out. If you shoot me an email to info@poweredportablesolar.com I can help figure out what size system you'd need.
You mention that those 210/200W panels are the best for the EcoFlow. But I didn't see a link or information that specifically share what panels these are. Please let me know So I can get them.
Hello Ben. Are you running your refrigerator an stove
or microwave with this set up? Also, can you show a link
for the cable you connected to the wall? Thanks
You mentioned everything except the house ac. Did you install a Micro-Air Easy Start on the ac system. It reduced my in rush current from 77 to 23 amps on a 3 ton unit!
Great stuff, thanks. I am looking at the EcoFlow Pro and possibly an extra battery or two so I can run 220 for my well pump. I have a Champion 3400 Inverter Dual Fuel generator that I could use to recharge these when needed, but I really like the EcoFlow generator :-). Subscribed!
Thanks. I'd love to help. Thanks for subbing. Please email info@poweredportablesolar.com with any questions. We would love to earn your business and get you any possible discounts.
Are the cables long enough that you could do a three tier Uline rack? Delta Pro on the middle rack and extra batteries above and below?
Good video. Thanks. Sure interested in your solar connection video. I currently have two 400 watt panels connected to 1 DP + EB. I'd like to connect four panels.
why did you not go with their Smart Home Panel instead? I have it set up at my shop, with 2 batteries and solar charging and I use my 240v tools as normal, with the regular shop wiring. No adapter like that or extension cords etc. When the grid power fails the Smart Panel takes over instantly.
The Smart Home Panel is really incredible, but I already had this in my house so there was no real reason besides instant takeover. Plus because I review and test multiple solar generators I need something that can work with any solar generator.
Little pricey, but great setup. I built my own mpp and growwatt systems for backup and production. Really crazy most people dont know all this is possible.
$18,000 is not cheap.
@@browsedeweb8834 neither is a home gen set.
@@WattsMiner $4200 for 12k Briggs and Stratton, add a soft start on a central ac you can easily do it. Run for as long as you need on NG.
Not everyone has the tools or space therefore there are out the box all in one systems like this. As well as this is aimed for mobile & rv use.
yes you needs NG and solar panels you needs sun 😊
I'm still watching you, decided to review a slightly older video. I'm getting my land set up, and determining what I need. Will try to shop through you.
The Ecoflow Delta Pro seems analogous to the Apollo in that it has separate 120v units to join up.
Don't think I would be interested in any of the whiz-bang breaker panels. I know how to connect panels, manage power, throw breakers.
Most importantly we need to learn to live on less. ... You mentioned your electric dryer several times, particularly confusing in the context of a grid down system. I believe the wind will dry your clothes just fine. And the propane would also be worth preserving. ... Frankly? I think that's a millennial, Gen Z thing. I grew up with no AC in the house, role of Windows on my vehicle, drive-in movies had a speaker that you HUNG ON THE WINDOW.
I have to do the math on whether or not the two Delta Pros (with suitable batteries) equals what you get from the Delta Pro Ultra.
The one advantage of the Delta Pros versus the DPU is the redundancy of having at least one unit that we should provide 120v should one of Delta pros fail. (Same would be true of Apollo.)
The Apollo seems to be overpriced for what their offering, though I'm still waiting for the Delta Pro Ultra to offer a firmware update that will allow a dark start on solar. I'm also waiting for the Delta Pro product to do load sharing, charge sharing between the Delta Pro batteries ... That is if I use the Delta Pro versus the Delta Pro Ultra.
I like that the Delta Pro Ultra has the dual solar inputs, low VOC, hi VOC.
I'm also interested in knowing whether or not the DPU can take the Delta Pro Smart Generator, and whether or not the DPU has a DC to DC connector, like the Delta Max on JASONOID channel.
Keep it up. I'm watching you.
How many 4oo watt solar panels do you need to charge all 4 extra batteries and the 2 solar generators all at once?
You can only have up to three 400w panels together in one group of series on each Delta Pro. That will put you around 120v and 11a. This will get you around 1,200w input. In order to reach the full 1,600w max rated input, you would need six 400w solar panels. Three in group 1, and three in group 2, with a 2 to 1 MC4 branch connector. That will give you about 120v and 22a. But since the DP charge parameter is 11-150v and 15a, the excess amperage will not get used. Charge controllers will not let in more amps than they are rated to. So in this case, you'd get about 120v at 15a. Volts x Amps = Watts. 120v x 15a = 1,800w. Then you factor in solar panel efficiency and the weather conditions and you should be anywhere from 1,400w to 1,600w input on a clear sunny day. You have to have 2,400w of solar panels connected in order to get 1,600w input on the DP. It's one of the few major issues with the Delta Pros. I will have a video coming out about each solar generator/power station major flaws in the near future.
is it possible to connect 6 of the main unit together instead of the battery. so that there is room for more solar panels ?
I wish, but no that won't work. The only way the Delta Pro main units can connect together is through the 240v hub.
Nice vid. Is it true that you can't charge them while they are powering the house. I have a 9KWH generator now and would like batteries that can run the home and run the generator to charge them when they get low.
So if I had enough panels, can those 6 batteries permanently maintain an off grid system?
Jes
Not for more than 2 years due to degradation. Great for camping tho
Did you have a electrician install that plug for or the extension cord?
Awesome Video! Can you get a full 50 amps out of the 240?
Thank you. Sadly no, only 30a at 240v. If you decide you'd like to get a system please feel free to reach out to me at info@poweredportablesolar.com and I can help find what system will work best for your needs.
@@minutemanprep awesome! Will do. Right now I am trying to figure out the whole solar situation for when I get an airstream.
@@israelcontreras5332 That's great! I literally just got off the phone with a guy who I am going to work with to install a solar systme on his RV this summer. If you're interested let me know. I'm near Idaho Falls, ID. I like solar generators that can be used in the RV and home for boondocking and backup power.
Great video boss. That's rxactly the same configuration I have...I am currently mounting 8 450w Canadian solar panels on the roof just a slight over panel. I did opt for the smart hub panel, just need my electrician to come and install it.
Awesome man how much did you pay for your system?
@@childofgod884 I need to tally the total so I can get an exact fuigure of the total cost. Also so I can recoup the cost of the I vestment. Rough estimate 15-16k... I'll potentially do a list of materials and nick nacks.
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Very cool man that's not bad at all, considering the chemistry of the batteries. Since they are expected to last at a minimum of 10-20 years since they are lifepo4. What about the solar panels how much did you pay for those? I've been thinking about getting 2 of the Delta Pros and getting at least a 2kw array mounted on my roof and run a couple 5000 btu Acs off the grid during the summer months. The only issue I'm having with that is that is that I do not have a south facing roof, and I have no space for a ground array.
Just switching off your Main 200amp breaker does not disconnect you from the Line Voltage from your utilities. You only disconnected L1 and L2 from your main panel Neutral is still connected and can transfer voltage to the line.
The neutral line would need a return path to complete the circuit, which it doesn't if L1 and L2 are disconnected.
That is not correct, your Neutral will still conduct return voltage from L1 and L2 return from your Solar Generator, very dangerous to a lineman down the Line.
From the grid is L1 and L2 and a ground. No neutral from grid . Only 3 wires come in from grid
@@h2xmark If you don't have a neutral than you don't have 120 circuits, if you are using Ground as your return path than you really have a problem!
@@daviddauria3012 you only have a neutral in your home wiring, it bonds with the ground in your breaker box. The NEC states you can only have 1 bonding spot and that is your service panel. If you cut the main breaker even if you had stray current come through the neutral it would go through the neutral ground bonding in your panel then through the 3 foot ground rod driven into the ground
Our plan is to do this with the smart panel. Do you think you have enough room between the DP’s and the extra batteries for proper ventilation?
I do not think so. They are very close together and the battery cables are short so they basically vent into each other. I am moving away from the Delta Pros and using the Apollos now. Do you have Delta Pros already?
Excellent review & very informative 👍
The pro is the only ecoflow unit I would purchase, I would never tell anyone in my neighborhood my preps. At 800+ to 80% for all other ecoflow generators is junk. I'd rather have a bluetti at 2500+ to 80%
Excellent and informative video...just 1 question, if you have backup gas generators, then why would you spend another 10k on these solar generators? Just asking
Having personally gone through natural disasters where fuel ran out, I don't like to rely solely on fuel generators for power. The gas/propane generators are a backup to my solar, not the other way around.
Let me add the Great Reset means the elimination of fossil fuels. This is a smart investment.
May i know what your load is and how many hours is that setup is going to run your whole house?
The load varies depending on the time of year, how many people are home, how clear the weather is, and many other factors. Generally I can stretch the batteries to two days of power if I am careful with what I run. If I have clear sun each day, I can pretty much run everything like normal and recharge the system each day. That being said, I am about to get my Apollo system which will have 4,000w of solar input per Apollo. So a single Apollo has more solar input than two Delta Pros put together. I recommend waiting a week or two until I get my system for me to come out with that video then decide between those two units.
Nice video still wondering how long does one charge last how many hours running as a backup for home usage.
Great Video! Super informative! How do the Ecoflow Batteries get charged up? Is there a separate connection for charging from a standard 120v outlet for each one? And how would it work if the Ecoflow is feeding the house but the house is trying to charge the Ecoflow?
Um…. They have these things called solar panels. Also, that plug in your house works.
Do they charge only by solar or can the grid charge them as well?
Both solar and grid charging.
We can't put solar on our roof because very large trees block the sun, but we can put them 200' away in the back yard. How long can the cable be to connect the panels to the Delta Pro?
Nice setup! I have a delta pro and extra battery plugged into a transfer switch for emegency power. Are you concerned about the heat in the summer, the cold in the winter and the dust having a negative effect on the units?
No cause my garage doesn't get too hot or go below freezing. I need to find a way to protect it from dust I guess though.
@@minutemanprep If you find a way to occasionally clean the DP fans, please post it. Im in Texas so it gets really hot and dusty in the garage. I run mine on my transfer switch from inside my house. Again... nice setup!
@@LoneStarPrepping I'll likely just put air filtration fabric over the fan ports to collect the dust, I use similar setup with my crypto miners and it works well.
Smart panel for your circuit breaker eco flow
Have you figured a way to A/C charge the Delta Pro's while using the Double Hub?
Video coming soon. Victron Autotransforner and 240v input
Thank you for the step-by-step guide and showing me all the parts. I have a tesla solar system on my roof, but I do not have a power wall. I decided not to buy it because it was so expensive. Looking back now. I kind of wish I would’ve because it would’ve been less him buying six of these things. But the nice thing about these as I can take them with me if I need to go someplace one question I have is I noticed on the EcoFlow site they sell what looks like an electrical panel, so where does that come into this I noticed that’s not something you have why are they selling that if I don’t need it?
The EcoFlow Smart Home Panel is a sub-panel where you can have up to 10 circuits powered from the Delta Pros. It's nice because it automatically turns on when the grid goes down. I didn't want that because I want to run my entire electrical panel, but the downside is I have to manually turn the system on. That's not a big deal to me so I went with that. Plus I can use any other solar generator or gas generator with that interlock switch as well. I had an interlock switch installed.
I believe this is passthrough as well, meaning you can use and charge at the same time. The only drawback that I have seen from another youtuber is that the ecoflow only has around 800 cycles for recharging before battery degradation. That is my only concern.
Yes it has pass through charging, it can charge and run at the same time. This unit has LiFePo4 batteries so they have 3500 cycles whereas the Delta Max uses Lithium NMC which has 800 cycles. :)
@@minutemanprep Ah that makes sense, I must have had my models mixed up. 3500 cycles is way more acceptable.
Great vid! But hate you didn’t explain what the other stuff is for. As a newbie to this can you make a vid or direct me to one that explains how this set up works exactly?
I’m new to this and still learning. What all do you have? Is it two delta pros and four backup batteries? What’s the cost for that system, about $20,000? Reason I ask is I got a Generac house backup generator 3 years ago before these solar generators were popular like this and I paid about $10,000 for everything. It is a natural gas unit fed by a gas line from the street and the unit has been invaluable over the years as we seem to lose power easily even with a little wind storm. Trying to compare costs although I realize it is apples to oranges in a way. Thanks!
Yes I do have 2 DPs and 4 EBs with maxed out solar panels as one of the backup options to my house. I have many systems that I test and use for house backup. I would recommend the new Apollo that is launching. They've worked out all the kinks and it's far better than anything else out there. You're welcome to shoot me an email to info@poweredportablesolar.com and I can help.
Enjoyed the video! How do you go about overpaneling your Delta pro? I have a Delta Max and I can't overpanel it even a little. I'd like to hear about your approach to it :)
It's not much of an overpanel but the best way I have found is using the 210w panels on the poweredportablesolar.com/shop/ site. You can put up to 7 of them in series which is 1,470w at a total of 138v and 13a. So You can add two strings of this to have a total of 2,940w connected which should lead to the 1,600w of allowed input to be filled most of the day. The only problem is that is you have 7 panels in series and if the temperature outside is below about 40 degrees they COULD make more voltage and possibly exceed the 150v threshold on the Delta Pro which could burn out the charge controller so then it might be a bad idea to use 7 panels which is why I recommend a 6S2P setup with two strings of 6 panels in series/parallel combo for a tal of 2520w overpaneled.
As I have tried to make other solar panels work such as 250w, 350w and 450w panels I can't get as much solar connected and the panels start to get so big that they become too cumbersome. So this is where I seem to have found a sweet spot for the over paneling of the Delta Pro. I'll have a video all about this coming out hopefully by the end of this month explaining it all.
Great video thank you so much I have several questions I know you’ll probably never see my post but I don’t know who else to ask for right now I live in Phoenix Arizona and I have a tesla solar system I do not have batteries I’ve had the Tesla system one year and I enjoy it zero problems but as you know if the power goes out here my solar panels don’t work I really like the Eco flow products and I’ve been wanting a way to back up my house using the Eco flow so when I saw this it seems like a perfect solution except if you have a real power outage how do you charge these things once they run dead now my first thought was buy a portable generator and recharge it with that but that will create noise could you tell me what you do in the situation? No obviously if I had power then the solar panels would be working and I could charge the Delta flow or charge the Eco flow just by plugging them in the socket in my wall and all that power will be coming from the sun in the daytime and short I’m really bummed out that I cannot use solar when the grid is down and I understand their concern about electrical workers being electrocuted but there’s gotta be a way they could isolate the power to just stay in my home and not go back to the grid that seems very simple to do and if I’m wrong please let me know. Thanks again any comments from anyone actually would be greatly appreciated thank you
Hey Joe, I'm happy to help out. You can also email me at info@poweredportablesolar.com.
Primarily these solar generators will recharge from solar panels so that they don't run out of battery. But in the event of bad weather where the solar panels are not enough and the battery dies, you can recharge them from a gas generator. Yes a gas generator is loud but you can get an inverter gas generator and they are quite quiet. You can hold a conversation next to them. I prefer the gas/propane dual fuel generators and I run mine on propane only. I do this because propane doesn't expire so I can store it forever. It's also much cleaner so the generator it self should last longer too. Since the Delta Pros recharge very quickly too, you only need about 2 hours to recharge it from zero to full.
There's no way to use your Tesla solar system with the Delta Pro. Those solar panels are on their own and you can't flip them back and forth between using them for the house/grid and then using them for the Delta Pro. So you'll need more solar panels for the Delta Pro.
@@minutemanprep that is a huge help. So you confirmed kind of what I was thinking. Just get a couple of very quiet inverter generators and the propane idea is great because it’s clean like you said. And recharge the Delta pros with those if needed. And like you said I could get some separate solar panels for the Delta pro. I love hate hate I love how you set those up on a rack that’s really cool. I live in Phoenix Arizona what part of the country are you in? I’m not asking for your address or anything I’m just curious a general area. Thank you so much for your response it was really nice of you. Also thanks for providing me your email I’ll check out your website if you have one.
@@joeglennaz No problem at all. I am in SE Idaho, near Idaho Falls. There is a new solar panel stand system coming out soon that will be even better than that rack system. I'll have a video on it when it's released. Typically I keep enough solar panel power on hand to power my entire house with this system.
@@minutemanprep I can't wait to see your video with the new rack system. I just double-checked and my notifications are on all! Thanks again
@@joeglennaz It's gonna be great!
great video, what is your solar panel set up? I also have a Delta Pro and looking for the solar panel options
I'm using 210w solar panels, I find those to be the best setup with the Delta Pro. Video is in the process of being made =)
Combining 2 delta pros gives you 240 volts output. What about the power? Does it make it 7200watts?
Yes. It doubles everything.
Great video - thanks for sharing. Do you really need a dryer ?
No. The point was to show the capability.
Curious why the deltas on the bottom part of rack shut down at 8:43 ?
They didn't shut off, the screens just turned off. The screens have a timeout setting. It definitely seems that way though.
@@minutemanprep Thanks that makes sense. Great review ... I'm eyeing the Delta Pro and the Bluetti AC 300
What is your solar panel setup? How much input power can you get from solar panel.
I go over that in this video: ruclips.net/video/X-qlAHMldMQ/видео.html&t
Thank you :)
Great video, my question is what is the circuit breaker your well pump is on? Mine is a 50 amp. 230 volts. I don't think this system will work.
Thanks,
My well pump has two 20a breakers (40a) on a double pull circuit. Is yours 50a on each pull for a total of 100a? If so, then you're correct it very likely won't run it simply for the inrush power rating. The DP 240v plug is rated to 50a. Your well pump will not use 50a to run, at the very most it'll use 40a. That's is between the double pull it's 50a meaning two 25a pulls.
@@minutemanprep Thanks for responding, my well has a single pull 50a .
@@richardhorst6810 Wow very interesting. It's rare to find a well pump that is 120v compared to 240v. Generally, 120v items don't run more than 18a at a max but a single delta pro is capable of pushing out up to 30a at 120v. When you say single pull, are there two breakers that are stuck together to make one pull or is it just one breaker, not attached to another breaker? Or is it a single pull but still two breakers, it would be an extra wide breaker? I've just not seen a 120v 50a breaker before so I want to make sure I'm giving you the right info.
@@minutemanprep one big fat one, it is a 240 v 5 0 amp one-and-a-half horsepower
@@richardhorst6810 Got it, one big fat one is technically two that are within one. So you shouldn't have a problem running that well pump :) Cause that means at the very highest it would pull 25a from each 120v leg within the electrical panel, and each DP can do 30a. And 25a being pulled from both sides of the electrical panel would be extreme, so It's unlikely you're using more than 30 to 40a at the very most to run that well pump which is within the capability of two DPs put together in a 240v setup.
If you decide to get anything I hope you'll consider ordering from poweredportablesolar.com/shop/ to help support the channel :)
Yes, this is the whole home 21.6 kWh power station.
You didnt show how to connect the 4 batteries. Can they not be connected at the same time for 6 times the power of one Delta Pro unit?
Is a 12 gauge, 10-15' extension cord to a 240 power inlet box adequate (which I have) or should I go with 10 gauge?
12 gauge is fine but 10 gauge is recommended.
Real nice setup. Why are you using a 50 amp plug when the delta pro only provides 30 amps?
Because I can use any system up to 50a. Since I test and use so many different units I didn't want to be limited to 30a. I now use the Apollo, I have 4 of them. With them I can do 240v and 50a output, which is 12,000w. If I had wired it for 30a, I'd be limited to 2 Apollos. It was just a simple thing to install and gave me more options for the same price so I did that.
During the freeze we had in Texas all I had was the apex inergy and two 500 jackeries for the whole 8 days we lost power. I did have a Honda 2200 to charge the apex and jackeries for necessities and I must say it was pretty easy dealing with what Mother Nature threw at us those 8 days. I see your unit and it blows my mind away....I love it. Is it possible to have a system like yours already hooked up to the transfer switch and use it as a UPS or does it need to be connected manually like you demonstrated on this great video. Phenomenal video and fantastic information...thank you for sharing.
Ecoflow has a smart panel that can transfer automatically. It's pricy at $1600 but has some amazing features.
I'm glad you enjoyed the video. Yes, that Texas freeze was bad stuff. These types of units generally are on a manual transfer switch. I have heard there are automatic transfer switches but I've never looked into it so I don't know. I'd talk with an electrician. It would be really cool to have an auto transfer switch with one of these units sitting waiting to go. The other difficulty is these units have an auto shut off if they are not used for a certain amount of time so that would have to be changed in the settings I believe.
@@minutemanprep The jackeries also have an auto shut off if what they are plugged in to does not draw so much wattage. Luckily I only used them for lights and my Bi-pap machine with my 12V adapter plug. Since then, I have purchased the Delta Max to use as my UPS for the kitchen fridge and the apex for the freezer in the garage. The eco flow deltas do have that auto shutoff that can be programmed through the apps to never shut off.
Great video here is a question for you If have 4 ecoflow pro, can I use 2 to be the masters with the double voltage hub and the other 2 units to be use has batteries
How long will that set up run your house for before recharging?
Very nice! BTW, what microphone do you use for your video recordings? I noticed you have a wrap around behind your head. My 11 yr old daughter started cooking videos and it would be nice for her to have the same audio quality that experienced youtubers get. Thanks
The one behind my ear is just a Bluetooth for my phone called the Aftershokz Aeropex. For recording I use the Rode Wireless Go mic.
thanks so much for the in depth walkthrough. One question: Is using Wifi or IoT (Internet of Things) a must to connect the units together? I'm not planning on using an app or connecting to my phone and want to see if it's a must to be "online".
It uses IoT once set up. The first time you set it up you can connect it to wifi so it can make updates but when you're communicating with the unit it is through IoT. I believe you can monitor it through wifi as well from another location, don't quote me on that.
I have never been able to connect my SP via wi-fi. Only Bluetooth, so the app only connects to the SP if I’m within Bluetooth range down in the basement! EcoFlow told me my SP’s IoT was defective and had me send the unit back to them, but the replacement SP won’t connect via wi-fi either! This really is a problem because I want to monitor the system remotely using the app. I know my wi-if signal is strong enough because the two Delta Pros sitting right next to it connect just fine, but the SP doesn’t even seem to see the wi-fi network, much less connect to it!
Very impressive. How many 200 watt solar panels are needed to fully charge this system? I would think with panels this would be about at least a $25,000+ system. Very nice.
In my case Ecoflow support tech told me 4x 365W ( each panel 37 volt max out put ) in series =148V x 1460W to get the best charge input . But on Ecoflow main screen will show how much W input and how long it take for full charge , from that info you know how many panels you need to get the best .
thnka for showing, what if wifi and satelites are down? going for solara?
How many solar panels would it take to keep your house running using these batteries? I realize that solar power charging depends on your needs, but how big of a solar array would you need to power your house full-time using this battery set up? I’m needing to get out from under my $550 power bill and know if I do it right I can avoid down time due to clouds, gloomy days, etc.
I used to use 12, 200w solar panels on each DP but I have found that four 400w panels per DP is the best option, like these: poweredportablesolar.com/product/410w-solar-panel/. I prefer the Apollo over the Delta Pro now but both options are good. It just depends on what your needs are. You're welcome to email me at info@poweredportablesolar.com and I can help even more.
@@minutemanprepWow, that is a big difference! I appreciate your offer. I’ll look into that link then let you know. I’ve watched so many videos the last few days it makes my head spin and it seems like there are a lot of good options and all of them work just depending on how much money you wanna spend. But I do want to keep it where I can expand if I see I started too small and I really like the idea of putting whatever I get on a cart like you did.
My mother lives in a camper next to our house (since the roof in her double wide leaked and ruined the ceilings) to keep her independence, but her camper doesn’t really use much because she’s so thrifty, 😊 but I need to anticipate her having company etc so having it rated and fitted properly is important. Again I appreciate the information and I’ll check out the link and let you know. 👍
Paul in Iowa, what's the best system you have evaluated
It all depends on what you're wanting to accomplish. Are you wanting to run 240v power to your house to run your well pump and outlets indoors? Want something portable that works at home and in an RV? Just looking to run a fridge, freezer, light, fan and tv? Let me know what you're wanting to get done and I can help give some guidance.
Can you do everything manually as well? I am worried about an EMP or full grid down. I want to get a solar setup that can do everything manually without my phone as well.
Thanks
Yes it can all work manually without the phone. If you're intersted in getting a system like this or another brand please reach out to me at info@poweredportablesolar.com and I'd love to help you get the right kit and the best discounts possible.
Loved the video, bought 2 generators and 4 batteries, and power hub. I have had to return the 2 generators (2 replacements received), now one of the replacements is showing a 550 error code, and I cannot use the hub to plug in like on your video. I have reached out to Eco Flow, but their service model is somewhat frustrating. The setup works great, when it works, but these issues are making me wonder if there is a deeper quality control issue.
I was hopeful you could do a video on all the error codes. I see a lot of videos out there of frustrating users, and I think it would get lots of views.
Thanks for the feedback, that is good to know about the concerns. I personally haven't had any error codes really except for if I over-power the unit. I will see what I can do to find out about error codes and see if it's a video I can make.
@@minutemanprep - Many thanks
for less than the cost of one of these you could buy a EG4 6500EX inverter and a EG4-LL Lithium Battery (V2) | 48V 100AH | Server Rack Battery, hook them together in less than 5 min and have well over twice the power of a ecoflow delta pro....the cost for those two items with cables to hook them together = $2900 and these could also take twice the solar input as the ecoflow.