Thanks for your videos. 20 years ago I had the misfortune to be bitten by a tiger snake. I had been working on the other side of the river that forms the boundary to our property here in Mullumbimby NSW. My boots were all wet from fording the river and I needed to go back over the river late in the afternoon. I put on a pair of Western Ausralian safety flip flops and forded the river once again. It was getting dark by the time I needed to ford the river again and I trod on what I hoped was an eel. Wishful thinking. I'd been bitten twice by a tiger snake. Didn't feel the bite at all and it was only after the symptoms set in that I recognised the reality. My wife gave me the phone as I lay on the floor and called the ambulance while she applied a compression bandage. The ambos were here within a few minutes and I was taken first to Mullum hospital and then to Lismore Base Hospital. Anaphylactic shock hit me with the first of 7 vials of antivenin. I was OK to go home after two days but my urine was an ugly shade of brown for weeks. I'm forever grateful for our health system here in Oz.
You were lucky mate, lost my beautiful Keplie to a Tiger in our back yard, he killed the snake but it bit him and i had to put him down. Broke my heart, bawled my heart out, he was my best mate we went everywhere together. I should have known there was something near some timber i had, he would sniff there every day. Just thought it was blue tongues. I miss my dog beyond words, i got him when he was 2 and had a lot of injuries from god knows what, but i built an unstoppable love with him, he trusted me to end of the earth. RIP Rexy.
October of 2019 I got bitten by a pygmy rattlesnake. Lifeflighted. No long term effects. My husband did everything right. Thank God. 6 days in hospital. 2 days in ICU. Glad you letting us know the information!
in outdoor rec its standard practice to have your snake kit (2 compression bandages) at the top of your pack seperate from the rest of your first aid kit. One of my tafe trainers was on a solo hike and was bit by a king brown. he applied as many compression bandages as he could, slept to slow his circulation and everything down, then hiked out. He got to hopsital 24 hours later where they didn't believe he'd been bitten by a king brown because he had no symptoms. they loosened the bandages and he went into cardiac arrest. They did give him the anti venom. Compression bandages save your life. everyone should have them in their car and house
lyzzidc thanks for sharing mate That’s the perfect example of how a compression bandage works During my time in zoos I’ve met several people who are here today thanks to good first aid
Wicked Wildlife I always saw in a compression bandage was applied the wrong way it can actually drive the Venom into your body but I applied the right way and it keeps in check
That is a very good video...... and I totally agree everybody in Australia should learn at school how to manage a snake bite..... I also believe basic First Aid courses should be subsidized so we have more trained First Aiders in the workplace. My suggestion is that people out push carry 4 snake bite bandages....... enough to wrap two limbs....... just in case you end up being bitten twice on different parts of the body. The second thing is First aid teaches people to dial 000 or 112 immediately..........I would wrap the snake bite first because the phone responder first asks do you want police, fire or ambulance......... then they transfer your call........then the responder starts asking a lot of questions........... this can take 3 to 5 minutes to work through...... they also ask you to stay on the phone...........while this is all going on that venom is moving through your system. The immediate priority is to restrict the spread of the venom. PUT THE BANDAGE ON FIRST then call emergency no matter if you are alone or with somebody.
It is a common practice, hospital staff removing snake bite bandages, just a couple of months ago a snake handler in rockhampton died of the same scenario
I have my First Aid for 2023 and even still, this is great advice. As you said which is true, “any compression is good compression” and with little movement and emergency services called immediately, it can save a life. *Unless your Chuck Norris - being bitten by a King Cobra - after 5 excruciating days of pain - the Cobra died.. *Disclaimer: Don’t try to do what Chuck Norris did. It’s Chuck Norris. 😏
Oh, I forgot to say, great video. maybe it's time to revisit this subject with a new video to get some fresh views. Australians really need snakebite education. We have so many more new Australians than we had five years ago. Not only immigrants but kids who weren't born when you made this and are now at the perfect age to learn about proper snake bite first aid.
I live on the edge of suburbia. The block I'm on backs onto a wetland area 'Green Zone'. Across the road at the front is a new housing estate that was developed over the past six years. I have a smallish backpack that I carry my P1000 camera in. A 'Smart Bandage' and Sharpie live in a side pocket. If I go out, my camera comes with me, as does the bandage. I always carried a stretch-type bandage with me before I found the clever ones that removed mild panic mistake possibilities with bandage tension. I'm very snake aware. I'm not fearful of them. I just know they're part of our environment. I mean, I've witnessed an hour-long battle between two male coastal pythons in my shed. I've freed Keelbacks from a poorly stored cast net. And I seem to be the go-to guy when the people who live in the house on the 20-acre block have a snake around the back door, usually a Green tree snake or a Yellow-faced Whip snake. Anyway, I was going to relate a story about how my father died due to a snake bite. Well, technically, it wasn't the snake. It was the poor training of the cadet nurse who was in the emergency room when dad arrived an hour after being bitten but with a properly applied compression bandage and the correct 'stay calm and don't move about' management. I'll summarise: When stepping out of his 4WD, an Eastern brown was hiding under a saltbush right next to where dad placed his thong-clad foot. The snake hit him twice, about 10cm above his ankle. He had a mate with him, so they immediately broke out the First Aid kit and applied a compression bandage, marking the bite site/s. Dad got in the passenger seat and they drove back to the house and called an ambulance. They agreed to meet halfway because they were an hour away from the major hospital. The ambos met them and assessed the compression bandage and decided it was fine. When they got to the emergency room, dad was placed on a bed. He was fine. Then a young nurse came along and...removed the entire compression bandage to take a swab of the bite site/s. Then she left with the sample. She didn't reapply the bandage. Dad and his mate thought this strange. About ten minutes later and no one having returned, dad said to his mate that didn't feel too good. His mate went hunting for a doctor or nurse. It took five minutes for someone to check on dad. By that time he was pretty bad. There were more mistakes made with antivenene and treatment that lead to his death some 2 weeks later in the intensive care ward at a hospital in Brisbane. The list of stuff-ups would surprise you but I have typed for long enough already, LOL. That happened in 1997.
Don’t start wrapping from the extremity upward. You push the lymphatic system flow upward. First start wrapping from above the bit site down to the bit site. Then go back to the start of wrapping and wrap up as far as the limb will allow Immobilise and get help. Keep bit site lowest point of body where ever possible. Remember the poison usually moves via the lymphatic system.
That is an interesting point....... I can see where you are coming from..... All the first aid courses teach to wrap from the extremities toward the heart....... perhaps the reason is to help prevent people wrapping the limb too tight and trapping a lot of extra blood in the limb........ The official information is a bit unclear...... it says apply a compression bandage over the bite site........ but the department of pharmacology emphasizes leaving the digits exposed and starting from the extremities.... the wrapping up the limb toward the heart.......going past the bite. The new bandages with a tension indicator are fantastic....... I bought 4 .......two larger ones for legs........ 2 smaller ones for arms.
@@siyaindagulag. It's not self-promotion, it's relaying relevant information. Did you miss the part in this 5 year old video where he talked about how this kind of information regularly changes and gets updated?
@@kg6801a sub-dermal bite, i.e into muscle tissue ,especially the calf (2nd most efficient blood pump in the human body), immobilization is critical . Such bites are uncommon but still,one factor to consider.
Great advice. I work in the outback near where Burke and Wills’s expedition ended. We have had limited training in relation to snake bites other than the generic first aid courses that do in fact address snake bites. Your information in these videos is much more informative. Thanks cobber.
Well done! Thankyou for sharing this message. I'm going to order this snake kit, I worked in ICU, so I'm familiar with what you're saying, but there's always something new to learn! God bless you, stay safe.....💕 ps, emigrated from the UK, and snake bites are unheard of, learnt about them here. But I love and respect snakes xxxx
Well presented. Great vid. I live in south central Louisiana where its full of copperheads and water moccasins. I get accused all the time of going to sleep with the snakes. Been going in the woods for 31 years. Have never been bitten ........yet :) Im 63 years old ex army ranger. Still do 10 and 20 mile military hikes. Practice a lot of survival. Very self rewarding.
@Maddie Barrett Mostly what we have in my part of Louisiana are water moccassins and a few coral snakes. The rest are king snakes which are beneficial and other non poisonous snakes. I know you have a lot of poisonous snakes there. I read up on your country. I like it. Its bad enough here that most of us Cajun s dont want to sleep on the ground for fear of a moc climbing in a sleeping bag to stay warm in the winter or cool in the summer. I have a Swiss Gear tent(alpine peaks 4) . That way there is room enough for me and my gear. I am going to get a couple of the snake bite kits that you reccomend. I have 2 Extractors. Would rather have something a little more advanced. Again ..great vid and thanks. ..Charles.
The best snake bite video I've seen out of 13 of them today. Most of them say "do nothing and wait for help" and spend the rest of the video telling you what not to do so you're still doing nothing. Off grid people don't have that option.
Just be careful, this is advice for Australian snakes...the advice for US snakes is different. Australian snakes have relatively small fangs and the venom travels in the lymphatic system and causes little local tissue destruction. The aim is to stop it from reaching the circulatory system (blood). US snakes belong to a different family and tend to cause significant local tissue damage...so it’s up for debate if a pressure bandage does more damage than good in this case. So the advice is different in the US to Australia. PIT is recommended for all Australian snakes.
Thank you so much for this. I wish this was downloadable for when people are in remote areas with no cellular connection. This is an excellent video. Thank you again
You make a very good point about not wasting time and moving about a lot to kill the snake. In the USA, the types of snakes are regional. We go from extreme cold to extreme heat. It is a good idea to know your environment, eg what kind of snakes are in your area and how recognize them. It would seem venom extractor kits are not used where you are as you didn't mention them. Your thoughts on them would be appreciated. Good informative video. Thanks.
St John ambulance now have a very cool bandage for snake bites that has small rectangles on them, when you're applying/wrapping it and pull it to the correct tightness level the rectangles become perfect squares, giving you a good visual indication that you're not wrapping it too weakly or strongly
Excellent advice. Thank you very much! The example of your friend bitten by a Death Adder and not feeling ill until the bandage was removed was so impressive! Everybody in the world people should know the correct way of snake bite first aid, it would save many lives.
Wow. We thought we had may have ahad a death adder lurking around the chook pen. Comforting to hear what happened with your friend. Keep up the good videos, and I agree we should taught these basic first aid solutions in school. Lived in the country and only first aid I knew was call an ambulance bundle them in a car and head towards the hospital.
Thank you for the instructions mate. I am 5 years late seeing this video but I now understand a bit more. I have also ordered one of the kits. Really appreciated
The first aid is likely very similar, though to my knowledge most of the Australian elapids have neurotoxic and myotoxic venoms, while most American vipers have hemotoxic venoms, attacking the muscle tissue and blood cells. I'm not sure if that would affect the first aid, something I hope never to have to deal with!
The Wildlife Brothers my thought where that I’m not sure if there’s a risk associated with the necrotic aspect of many viper bites and pooling that venom with the bandage Also with larger fangs I’ve never looked into if it’s still injected lymphaticly or not
Wicked Wildlife interesting point, I’m not sure how the venom travels through the body, though I believe in some cases viper venom travels through the bloodstream.
This is a really excellent video Nick! Seriously love the tips about unpacking the items prior to going out in the bush...or heck in your backyard from what I hear over there! We do that with out medic pack in combat. I love the SMART bandage! Great vid!!!!
ReptileMountain.TV thanks mate ! Glad you like the video and I think the bandage is a great idea Also Isabella’s little suit arrived today and thanks for the shirt :)
Great video. One of my crew members here in Roswell NM U.S.A. was bitten by a Western Diamondback Rattlesnake ten days ago. We had a Venom Locc on hand and the outcome was better than anyone expected. That pressure bandage you show in this video looks to help delay the effects of the venom. The Venom Locc creates a suction just at the site of the bite. Anyway, thank you for sharing:)
Deadly Tarantula Girl glad your mates ok Here in Australia Suction isn’t recommended for our bites at all anymore Hence the reason I can only really speak for Australian species!
@@WannonCreekWildlife - First of all, thank you for your kind words. To clarify, traditional suction devices aren't recommended here either. This device is actually innovative in that it creates a "vacuum" at the site of the wound that delays the venom from circulating through the lymphatic system to slow the effects of envenomation to allow victims to seek medical care as well as reduce the effects of the envenomation due to the fact the venom is unable to flow freely until the patient receives antivenom and releases the Venom Locc device. Although the animal subjects seemed to be benefitted by using the device, no human trials had been conducted until my producer used it. In our experience, the evidence indicates that it was a great help.
pressure bandages are not used on most western hemisphere snakes, since they are mostly of the viper family, and viper venom is generally not as neurotoxic. but rather hemotoxic, cytotoxic, so it destroys tissue, which means venom stuck in one location can destroy alot of tissue in one place.
In America this advice may not apply. With the exception of coral snakes and a couple others, the majority of venomous snakes you will encounter in the wild are vipers: rattlesnakes and copperheads. As a general rule vipers have cytotoxic and or hemotoxic venom that will cause swellin and necrosis(tissue death) so if you use a a compression bandage you're arguably accelerating the tissue necrosis on what ever limb you're bitten on.venomous snakes in Australia by contrast are entirely elapids with primarily nuerotoxic venom. This damages you by affecting your nervous system. Because of that, with those bites you want to stop the venom from circulating to your vital organs.
MSK Chess Don't even think about it hey you could cut a major artery then you introducing germs or somebody's mouth into your bitten skin and you can make the sucker sick because they're getting Venom in their mouth now
As some one who lives in south Florida around rattlesnakes cotton mouth copper heads this might be something I need to get and I own other venomous snakes in captivity much love from Florida
I'm guessing from. Your username you are from the US, this info will not apply to most snakes in the US, other than coral snakes. Wrapping a rattlesnake or moccasin bite can lead to alot of localized tissue damage, and possibly require amputation
@@davyboone1794 if you're in the US and you're bitten by anything other than a coral snake keep the area immobilized as much as possible, and lower than the rest of your body, and get to a hospital ASAP, or if you're very far from a hospital, call 911 and they may send out a life flight or something
@@davyboone1794 it's not different, the coral snakes and the Australian snakes have similar venom, neurotoxin, which acts on the brain signals that tell you to breathe, causing you to potentially suffocate if you don't get treatment. The snakes that are different are the other snakes found in the US, such as rattlesnakes or water moccasins which have more cytotoxic venom, that causes tissue destruction
1. Stay calm as much as you can. 2. Wrap bandage around the arm, not tightly. 3. place splint on the arm to reduce muscle movement. 4. And lastly, mark the location of the bite. Am I tracking?
So right it does change from year to year and l do re do the course every 12 months myself, those bandages are a great idea and will have a look for them. absolutely brilliant advice and l will share this on my facebook as it is certainly that time of year here in Australia and those snakes are looking for water in our backyards too.
Gotta love carpet pythons thanks Gaye Yes I love these bandages as they were invented by an Australian snake catcher specifically for Australian snakebites
I've been involved with venomous snakes since early 90's, and worked behaviour/education/safety etc etc etc and nothing has really ever changed regarding the Pressure Immobilisation Method/technique. Still the same as first described in 1978 by Straun Sutherland and his colleagues,. Since it's inception always been and will be: -Apply a firm broad bandage or similar directly over the bite site, at the same pressure as for a 'sprained ankle' - Apply the bandage over as much of the rest of the bitten limb as practical. (Ensure fingers or toes are covered to immobilise them) - Ensure the bitten limb is kept motionless by applying a splint and instructing the patient to cease all use of the limb and any general activity -Seek appropriate medical assistance immediately. It's not rocket science, and any respected Australian First Aid book from the last 40years will have the same information from CSL probably in them. We could teach a classroom of 6yr olds in 10minutes how to do it, and they do remember it if know how to make it fun. Bloody amazes me though how many adults can't treat snakebites properly in this day and age. lol Re: the snakes looking for water. Your snakes aren't coming in for water, they are coming around for the food/prey items- little skinks, birds, frogs, rodents, small mammals.... Eliminate the food supply and will minimise the snaked encounters pretty much.
Thanks for this. Heading out to a Tiger-snake infested area for a bushwalk next month ... I have learned a lot from your video and have bought myself a smart bandage. Thanks again.
I was bitten by a Taipan, it nearly killed me 3 times over 3 Days , The poison affected my eye site, peed blood, glands poisoned , couldn’t breathe enough , kldneys. Nearly failed , then a blood clot sucked through my heart then it started to go up my juggler vein in my neck , I grabbed my neck and got back to hospital .had it dissolved. A close shave ! One fang mark in my foot was 3/4” inch long.
Great video. Love snakes and have always been looking for rattlesnakes in the US. Haven’t been bitten but expect to. Glad I watched the video. It is simple and to the point and my kit I find is a little lacking. Luca
You do not use compression bandages on rattlesnake bites, the only snake in the US you would use it for are coral snakes. Wrapping a bite from a pit viper will cause more damage to the area that was bitten
The wrapping method seems a bit ambiguous. Do you wrap from the bite up, or just wrap the entire limb regardless of where the bite is located? What if the bite is high up like near the shoulder or buttocks , or even mid torso? If you are bit on the neck are you toast immediately?
@@MrGaborseres it can still be applied to coral snake bites, but most snakes in the US have tissue destroying venom. If you apply a pressure bandage it traps the venom in one area, potentially causing more damage to that one area, instead of spreading
Thanks for this video mate, I have snakes on my property and enjoy watching them in their natural habitat without bothering them, chances are I may accidentally step on a snake one day and possibly get bitten. This is the most informative instruction I've seen. Thankyou so much for this video.
Hey Nick, thanks heaps for the first aid lesson mate. Very valuable stuff to know, when living amongst the snakes we have here. I'm in Healesville, so we get tigers, red bellies and browns, so this is handy to know. Keep up the great content mate! 🇦🇺👍☺
My friend got bitten between the legs. We got on the CB radio and asked for medical help. The doctor said, you need to suck the poison out, or your friend will die. Our bitten friend said, " what did the doctor say" He said you were going to die.
Thank you very much for the link to the snake bite kit I've just bought one because we've had a different type of snake hanging around at the moment that we aren't sure about. It is a dark greyish/black snake with a brownish coloured head. Someone told me that it is a copper head but we live inland of Noosa in Qld in the Mary Valley near the Borumba Dam and I noticed in articles and your own video on Copper heads that they don't live in Qld. So, we don't know for sure what it is because snake colouration is no way to ID a snake as you rightly say. Love your videos btw and I've subbed as well because they're so good ;-)
Hope it's not a coastal taipan lol, it is the most dangerous snake in Australia, 100% untreated mortality rate, even worse envenomation than inland taipan (80% untreated mortality rate). And kicks the eastern brown out of the park (15% untreated mortality rate). In fact the eastern brown isn't even in the top 5 most lethal human envenomations in Australia, as you also have the death adder (60%), tiger snake (50%), and mulga snake (35%). The coastal taipan also has the highest untreated mortality rate in the world, with black mamba second also with a 100% untreated mortality rate. However there are rare exceptions of people surviving black mamba untreated, whereas there are no exceptions with coastal taipan. Some say well what about the 1949 case of an aboriginal surviving coastal taipan. Well while he wasn't administered anti-venom, he was still professionally medically treated in hospital, so that is in fact not an untreated case. What I say is that the coastal taipan has 'literally' 100% untreated mortality rate, while black mamba has 'virtually' 100% untreated mortality rate. However I do consider the black mamba the most dangerous snake to encounter due to the fact that it has virtually the same envenomation lethality as the coastal taipan, but is also even larger, even faster, even more agile, aggressive and athletic, so more chance of being tagged. And both of them do no dry bites lol.
@@alantaylor6691 Okay, I'll check them out and see what they look like to compare it with the snakes we see here. Thank you for the information and warning of just how kick arse they are lol.
@@jodyknight Coastal taipans tend to be fairly big compared to other Australian venomous snakes, they are Australia's largest venomous snake. Kick arse in so many ways!
Also regarding coastal taipans, while I said they are not as agile and aggressive as black mamba, they are still extremely agile and aggressive as far as snakes go, very accurate and fast and are quite likely to strike if you step near and startle it. There are a lot of fish in the sea so probably isn't one, but good to rule it out lol.
@@alantaylor6691 Oh dear, some of the photos look exactly like what I've seen here, especially the ones with dark coloured body and a paler more brown/yellowish colour on their head. It's amazing how their colouration can be so varied. I noticed some incredibly bright orange/copper coloured ones as well and it makes me wonder if the snake we only usually see at night, when it's raining especially, that is orange/copper on top and yellow on the underside is one too but someone told me that is more likely to be a 'night tiger'. That snake is very calm though and it climbs well. It will do a recognisance mission through our shed/house at night or very early in the morning before the sun's up and search for mice. I have trodden very close to it on a few occasions but it never strikes or gets nasty it is very docile it seems. It has even searched in the recliner chair I was sitting in and touched my arm very briefly and it's amazing how small of a touch of snake skin on my arm told my body 'get up get up NOW that was a snake!!' lmao.
This is a Excellent channel and I think this should be taught in not just schools but in all work places that work outdoors! It's work health safety ACT 2012. But it's plain and simple Work Health Safety Comon Sense. Thanks again
We actually do in person snakebite training for businesses in regional victoria where we team up with a registered first aid trainer Hopefully this becomes more mainstream
@@WannonCreekWildlife That's great. All National Parks and River Management, Local Councils, Bush Workers, Logging Timber Industries ect should be doing your course. What happens if somebody gets bitten or killed by a shark at any beach?! It's a No Brainer! Occupational Health And Safety. OHS. Great work you are doing and Excellent Utube Channel that's Educational in staying safe from being bitten by a snake administering First Aid and Saving Lives! Best Regards
Thanks Nick! Have ordered a kit. Nearly stepped on what I believe to be a tiger snake the other day. Thankfully, it slithered away after I nudged it with my foot! Could you do a video on when an unbanded snake is a tiger snake and when a banded snake is a brownie? This snake was quite large (thought it was a rabbit at first, before I realised I was looking at scales and not fur), olive grey in colour and unbanded. Didn't see the head though. I tried to convince myself it was an olive python because of the colour, only to find out they don't live in the Illawarra region of NSW! 🤣 First time I've seen a snake on that walk (walked it plenty during lockdown). It was a good reminder to not get too complacent when out walking. Especially when walking solo... Won't be doing that walk again until my kit arrives.
Not at much risk in the uk but handy to know just incase lol. So thank you Nick. Loving your videos & I've shared with other reptile & animal lovers who I'm sure will subscribe.
OK mate....you just sold me that snake bite kit..... 👍 Thanks for the information....now all I need is snake bite 😬....actually I don't need that at all..... 🙂 But I came very very close on a number of occasions one of them snakes were a pigmy viper, the other few were cotton mouths .....
I watched this video after stepping on a water moccasin the other day. Didn't bite me due to a super human leap away from it. He was under my boat I was pushing off the bank. Thanks for the info.
My neck of the woods hosts cotton mouth and copperhead. I carry a "proactive" snake kit when I'm out working cattle, etc. It's a .38 revolver with number 9 rat shot. Rest In Pieces
I was once bitten by an Eastern Brown just above my right thumb while I was working at a cemetery. There was no one else around but I knew someone would come along at some point and I took my T-shirt off and wrapped my hand halfway up my arm and sat under a tree near the gate of the cemetery. I sat there for a while and was perplexed as I was feeling nothing from the bite. 1-hour went by and I was still feeling nothing from the bite, so at that point, I was thinking I must be immune to them the same way as I am immune to Yellow-Faced whip snakes and Blue Bottle jellyfish. Luckily I never put it to the test as I have since found out that most of the time their first bite is a dry one.
from your advice in this video, i just purchased recommended snake bite kit from the link. I encounter at least one snake a week, be it a Brown, Red Belly Black OR a Taipan. I dont worry about 'Bob', the 9 foot python, even though im terrified of snakes. watching your video's is helping me understand them, attempting to get over my fear. Cheers for sharing.
You need to do a video on the same subject but assuming you don't have luxury items such as a snake bite kit. As an example, when at a friends property I often like to go for a walk, the property is 200 acres, no mobile phone coverage and very few tracks, if bitten by a snake I would have to travel over a kilometer to get back to the house to raise the alarm (this is not flat terrain).
This video is old enough to do again. That way YT algorithm moves it out to the non-subscribers “somewhat”. You mention 3 deaths per the 3000 people bitten in Australia on average each year. If the stats are kept, I am interested in knowing the number of people missing fingers, toes, parts of hands and legs collectively. The total or ruff approximation. The current average hospital bill and if insurance refused to pay would be great too and assuming you do not have to devote your life to “hunting it down”. Just a request. Great info and good job.
Hey mate! I sure will do an update but have been waiting until the start of snake season here in Aus Unfortunately a lot of that information is really lacking here as hospitals don’t actually have to report snake bite or keep statistics but I do have a few thoughts 1. Loss of digits, limbs ect is incredibly rare from Australian snake bite, as our snakes are mostly neurotoxic so rarther then destroying tissue they effect the nervous system. In places like India the number of people disabled by snake bite is many times higher then those that die Also cost of treatment is tricky since here in australia we have free healthcare so it doesn’t actually come down to insurance, but in the US I’ve heard figures of between $100,000 and $500,000 medical bills for snake bite
@@WannonCreekWildlife Thank you for taking the time to respond. If the shoe fits …. have a Blessed Fathers Day and if over - a belated one. The info was great. Do include in your next video as most people like me would be clueless. As you guessed - US viewer here. Excellent, excellent job.
BE WARNED! This ONLY applies to Australian snakes which generally have short fangs so the venom enters the lymphatic system and not the blood. Snakes with long fangs such as cobras and rattlesnakes go through the lymphatic system into the blood stream. Compression bandages DO NOT WORK with long fanged bites.
As I understand, it is only the neurotoxin that goes into the lymphatic system because the molecules are too big to travel through the cardiovascular system. So the venom enters that near the heart where there is bigger arteries. The hemotoxic part of the venom however does have smaller molecules and if that goes in your blood, as I understand it your f***ked d for a long time... it dissolves the vein and you bleed out into your muscle tissue.. I have had both these venoms in my body and for 3 months I was as sick as anything. I was bruising everywhere, I had anemia and I was overall extremely nauseous and felt faint.. I also suffered heart failure and a small stroke after 4 weeks of the bite.. I'm still here but with a lot more awareness of my reptile guests who are looking for a meal :-) I just try stay out of their way and just leave them alone.. Listen to this man I wish I had seen this.
Thanks Nick, I do a lot of remote travel in the outback and I do have the kit you have shown and I know how to apply it. My question is, help would take a long time to get to me that's if I can get a call away at all. So how long would I have assuming its a really bad snake? Give me an approx. I always travel alone so no one is going for help.
In Texas near Austin the local yocals wack a poisonous snake or spider bite including a black widow or brown recluse spider with a cattle prod. Apparently it is effective for them.
So here in North America we are told never to wrap a snake bite unless it’s a coral snake which has neurotoxic venom. All other venomous snakes here are pit vipers with hemotoxic venom and wrapping it or using a tourniquet will trap the venom in one area and cause more localized tissue damage and necrosis. Some rattlesnake species have neurotoxic and hemotoxic venom combined. I’m just curious about your thoughts on this.
This is true, while I’m not an expert on snakes of the US I know they have different protocol When I put this video out I never realised it would be popular enough to be watched anywhere outside of Australia 😂
Thanks for your videos.
20 years ago I had the misfortune to be bitten by a tiger snake. I had been working on the other side of the river that forms the boundary to our property here in Mullumbimby NSW. My boots were all wet from fording the river and I needed to go back over the river late in the afternoon. I put on a pair of Western Ausralian safety flip flops and forded the river once again. It was getting dark by the time I needed to ford the river again and I trod on what I hoped was an eel. Wishful thinking. I'd been bitten twice by a tiger snake. Didn't feel the bite at all and it was only after the symptoms set in that I recognised the reality. My wife gave me the phone as I lay on the floor and called the ambulance while she applied a compression bandage. The ambos were here within a few minutes and I was taken first to Mullum hospital and then to Lismore Base Hospital. Anaphylactic shock hit me with the first of 7 vials of antivenin. I was OK to go home after two days but my urine was an ugly shade of brown for weeks. I'm forever grateful for our health system here in Oz.
You were lucky mate, lost my beautiful Keplie to a Tiger in our back yard, he killed the snake but it bit him and i had to put him down. Broke my heart, bawled my heart out, he was my best mate we went everywhere together. I should have known there was something near some timber i had, he would sniff there every day. Just thought it was blue tongues. I miss my dog beyond words, i got him when he was 2 and had a lot of injuries from god knows what, but i built an unstoppable love with him, he trusted me to end of the earth. RIP Rexy.
@@SteveSmith-zz4ih RIP rexy. dogs are the best
October of 2019 I got bitten by a pygmy rattlesnake. Lifeflighted. No long term effects. My husband did everything right. Thank God. 6 days in hospital. 2 days in ICU. Glad you letting us know the information!
20 years in the Army. Snake bite treatment was drummed into us all the time.
in outdoor rec its standard practice to have your snake kit (2 compression bandages) at the top of your pack seperate from the rest of your first aid kit.
One of my tafe trainers was on a solo hike and was bit by a king brown. he applied as many compression bandages as he could, slept to slow his circulation and everything down, then hiked out. He got to hopsital 24 hours later where they didn't believe he'd been bitten by a king brown because he had no symptoms. they loosened the bandages and he went into cardiac arrest. They did give him the anti venom. Compression bandages save your life. everyone should have them in their car and house
lyzzidc thanks for sharing mate
That’s the perfect example of how a compression bandage works
During my time in zoos I’ve met several people who are here today thanks to good first aid
Wicked Wildlife
I always saw in a compression bandage was applied the wrong way it can actually drive the Venom into your body but I applied the right way and it keeps in check
That is a very good video...... and I totally agree everybody in Australia should learn at school how to manage a snake bite..... I also believe basic First Aid courses should be subsidized so we have more trained First Aiders in the workplace.
My suggestion is that people out push carry 4 snake bite bandages....... enough to wrap two limbs....... just in case you end up being bitten twice on different parts of the body.
The second thing is First aid teaches people to dial 000 or 112 immediately..........I would wrap the snake bite first because the phone responder first asks do you want police, fire or ambulance......... then they transfer your call........then the responder starts asking a lot of questions........... this can take 3 to 5 minutes to work through...... they also ask you to stay on the phone...........while this is all going on that venom is moving through your system. The immediate priority is to restrict the spread of the venom.
PUT THE BANDAGE ON FIRST then call emergency no matter if you are alone or with somebody.
@@Moon-z6o9o yes, always compress and immobilise
It is a common practice, hospital staff removing snake bite bandages, just a couple of months ago a snake handler in rockhampton died of the same scenario
I have my First Aid for 2023 and even still, this is great advice.
As you said which is true, “any compression is good compression” and with little movement and emergency services called immediately, it can save a life.
*Unless your Chuck Norris - being bitten by a King Cobra - after 5 excruciating days of pain - the Cobra died..
*Disclaimer: Don’t try to do what Chuck Norris did. It’s Chuck Norris. 😏
Oh, I forgot to say, great video. maybe it's time to revisit this subject with a new video to get some fresh views. Australians really need snakebite education. We have so many more new Australians than we had five years ago. Not only immigrants but kids who weren't born when you made this and are now at the perfect age to learn about proper snake bite first aid.
I live on the edge of suburbia. The block I'm on backs onto a wetland area 'Green Zone'. Across the road at the front is a new housing estate that was developed over the past six years. I have a smallish backpack that I carry my P1000 camera in. A 'Smart Bandage' and Sharpie live in a side pocket. If I go out, my camera comes with me, as does the bandage. I always carried a stretch-type bandage with me before I found the clever ones that removed mild panic mistake possibilities with bandage tension.
I'm very snake aware. I'm not fearful of them. I just know they're part of our environment. I mean, I've witnessed an hour-long battle between two male coastal pythons in my shed. I've freed Keelbacks from a poorly stored cast net. And I seem to be the go-to guy when the people who live in the house on the 20-acre block have a snake around the back door, usually a Green tree snake or a Yellow-faced Whip snake.
Anyway, I was going to relate a story about how my father died due to a snake bite. Well, technically, it wasn't the snake. It was the poor training of the cadet nurse who was in the emergency room when dad arrived an hour after being bitten but with a properly applied compression bandage and the correct 'stay calm and don't move about' management.
I'll summarise:
When stepping out of his 4WD, an Eastern brown was hiding under a saltbush right next to where dad placed his thong-clad foot. The snake hit him twice, about 10cm above his ankle. He had a mate with him, so they immediately broke out the First Aid kit and applied a compression bandage, marking the bite site/s. Dad got in the passenger seat and they drove back to the house and called an ambulance. They agreed to meet halfway because they were an hour away from the major hospital.
The ambos met them and assessed the compression bandage and decided it was fine.
When they got to the emergency room, dad was placed on a bed. He was fine.
Then a young nurse came along and...removed the entire compression bandage to take a swab of the bite site/s.
Then she left with the sample.
She didn't reapply the bandage.
Dad and his mate thought this strange.
About ten minutes later and no one having returned, dad said to his mate that didn't feel too good.
His mate went hunting for a doctor or nurse. It took five minutes for someone to check on dad. By that time he was pretty bad.
There were more mistakes made with antivenene and treatment that lead to his death some 2 weeks later in the intensive care ward at a hospital in Brisbane.
The list of stuff-ups would surprise you but I have typed for long enough already, LOL. That happened in 1997.
Direct, honest and trustworthy. Spoken like a true Aussie Bushman. Thanks mate 👍
Don’t start wrapping from the extremity upward. You push the lymphatic system flow upward.
First start wrapping from above the bit site down to the bit site. Then go back to the start of wrapping and wrap up as far as the limb will allow
Immobilise and get help. Keep bit site lowest point of body where ever possible.
Remember the poison usually moves via the lymphatic system.
That is an interesting point....... I can see where you are coming from.....
All the first aid courses teach to wrap from the extremities toward the heart....... perhaps the reason is to help prevent people wrapping the limb too tight and trapping a lot of extra blood in the limb........
The official information is a bit unclear...... it says apply a compression bandage over the bite site........ but the department of pharmacology emphasizes leaving the digits exposed and starting from the extremities.... the wrapping up the limb toward the heart.......going past the bite.
The new bandages with a tension indicator are fantastic....... I bought 4 .......two larger ones for legs........ 2 smaller ones for arms.
Hooray ! You should have made this vid.
Self-promoters , ads everywhere.
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@@siyaindagulag. It's not self-promotion, it's relaying relevant information. Did you miss the part in this 5 year old video where he talked about how this kind of information regularly changes and gets updated?
@@kg6801a sub-dermal bite, i.e into muscle tissue ,especially the calf (2nd most efficient blood pump in the human body), immobilization is critical . Such bites are uncommon but still,one factor to consider.
Snake venom wouldn’t have time to kill me ,, the heart attack would lol
Thanks for the advice, very helpful! I might get myself one of those kits.
Foozil your very welcome mate
I’ve bought a couple for myself lately
Just bought a proper snake bite kit thanks to this video. Thankyou for the info.
Great advice. I work in the outback near where Burke and Wills’s expedition ended. We have had limited training in relation to snake bites other than the generic first aid courses that do in fact address snake bites. Your information in these videos is much more informative. Thanks cobber.
Well done! Thankyou for sharing this message. I'm going to order this snake kit, I worked in ICU, so I'm familiar with what you're saying, but there's always something new to learn! God bless you, stay safe.....💕 ps, emigrated from the UK, and snake bites are unheard of, learnt about them here. But I love and respect snakes xxxx
Probably one of the most useful videos ever.. Thank you
Well presented. Great vid. I live in south central Louisiana where its full of copperheads and water moccasins. I get accused all the time of going to sleep with the snakes. Been going in the woods for 31 years. Have never been bitten ........yet :) Im 63 years old ex army ranger. Still do 10 and 20 mile military hikes. Practice a lot of survival. Very self rewarding.
@Maddie Barrett Mostly what we have in my part of Louisiana are water moccassins and a few coral snakes. The rest are king snakes which are beneficial and other non poisonous snakes. I know you have a lot of poisonous snakes there. I read up on your country. I like it. Its bad enough here that most of us Cajun s dont want to sleep on the ground for fear of a moc climbing in a sleeping bag to stay warm in the winter or cool in the summer. I have a Swiss Gear tent(alpine peaks 4) . That way there is room enough for me and my gear. I am going to get a couple of the snake bite kits that you reccomend. I have 2 Extractors. Would rather have something a little more advanced. Again ..great vid and thanks. ..Charles.
The best snake bite video I've seen out of 13 of them today. Most of them say "do nothing and wait for help" and spend the rest of the video telling you what not to do so you're still doing nothing. Off grid people don't have that option.
Just be careful, this is advice for Australian snakes...the advice for US snakes is different. Australian snakes have relatively small fangs and the venom travels in the lymphatic system and causes little local tissue destruction. The aim is to stop it from reaching the circulatory system (blood). US snakes belong to a different family and tend to cause significant local tissue damage...so it’s up for debate if a pressure bandage does more damage than good in this case. So the advice is different in the US to Australia. PIT is recommended for all Australian snakes.
Thank you so much for this. I wish this was downloadable for when people are in remote areas with no cellular connection. This is an excellent video. Thank you again
You make a very good point about not wasting time and moving about a lot to kill the snake. In the USA, the types of snakes are regional. We go from extreme cold to extreme heat. It is a good idea to know your environment, eg what kind of snakes are in your area and how recognize them. It would seem venom extractor kits are not used where you are as you didn't mention them. Your thoughts on them would be appreciated. Good informative video. Thanks.
St John ambulance now have a very cool bandage for snake bites that has small rectangles on them, when you're applying/wrapping it and pull it to the correct tightness level the rectangles become perfect squares, giving you a good visual indication that you're not wrapping it too weakly or strongly
The bandages I use have a very similar design
I know of several snake bites where they’ve been used very successfully
That’s what he explained about the bandages in his kit. Called smart bandages.
Excellent advice. Thank you very much! The example of your friend bitten by a Death Adder and not feeling ill until the bandage was removed was so impressive! Everybody in the world people should know the correct way of snake bite first aid, it would save many lives.
“don’t panic or you’ll die quicker”
yeah looks like i won’t be making it boys 🤠
I agree , it certainly should be taught at school and work places !
Thank's Nic.
I just bought the kit, cos I have 4 resident brown snakes here and I don't want my students bitten by them.
dingo simon good idea Simon
These days have to cover your own butt keeping people safe too
Wow. We thought we had may have ahad a death adder lurking around the chook pen. Comforting to hear what happened with your friend. Keep up the good videos, and I agree we should taught these basic first aid solutions in school. Lived in the country and only first aid I knew was call an ambulance bundle them in a car and head towards the hospital.
Bloody good vid & impt public service, thnx Bud!
Thank you for the instructions mate. I am 5 years late seeing this video but I now understand a bit more. I have also ordered one of the kits. Really appreciated
Excellent advice Nick! This is great even for experienced zoology enthusiasts, I certainly learned some new things! Thanks for making this one.
The Wildlife Brothers glad you enjoyed it guys :)
Unfortunately I can’t speak for wether first aid for American vipers is any different
The first aid is likely very similar, though to my knowledge most of the Australian elapids have neurotoxic and myotoxic venoms, while most American vipers have hemotoxic venoms, attacking the muscle tissue and blood cells. I'm not sure if that would affect the first aid, something I hope never to have to deal with!
The Wildlife Brothers my thought where that I’m not sure if there’s a risk associated with the necrotic aspect of many viper bites and pooling that venom with the bandage
Also with larger fangs I’ve never looked into if it’s still injected lymphaticly or not
Wicked Wildlife interesting point, I’m not sure how the venom travels through the body, though I believe in some cases viper venom travels through the bloodstream.
In EMT school stateside we don't bandage due to venom pooling causing more necrotic issues. Love the video
This is a really excellent video Nick! Seriously love the tips about unpacking the items prior to going out in the bush...or heck in your backyard from what I hear over there! We do that with out medic pack in combat. I love the SMART bandage! Great vid!!!!
ReptileMountain.TV thanks mate !
Glad you like the video and I think the bandage is a great idea
Also Isabella’s little suit arrived today and thanks for the shirt :)
Wicked Wildlife I’m really glad she got it😊Sorry it took so long
Great video. One of my crew members here in Roswell NM U.S.A. was bitten by a Western Diamondback Rattlesnake ten days ago. We had a Venom Locc on hand and the outcome was better than anyone expected. That pressure bandage you show in this video looks to help delay the effects of the venom. The Venom Locc creates a suction just at the site of the bite. Anyway, thank you for sharing:)
Deadly Tarantula Girl glad your mates ok
Here in Australia Suction isn’t recommended for our bites at all anymore
Hence the reason I can only really speak for Australian species!
@@WannonCreekWildlife - First of all, thank you for your kind words. To clarify, traditional suction devices aren't recommended here either. This device is actually innovative in that it creates a "vacuum" at the site of the wound that delays the venom from circulating through the lymphatic system to slow the effects of envenomation to allow victims to seek medical care as well as reduce the effects of the envenomation due to the fact the venom is unable to flow freely until the patient receives antivenom and releases the Venom Locc device. Although the animal subjects seemed to be benefitted by using the device, no human trials had been conducted until my producer used it. In our experience, the evidence indicates that it was a great help.
pressure bandages are not used on most western hemisphere snakes, since they are mostly of the viper family, and viper venom is generally not as neurotoxic. but rather hemotoxic, cytotoxic, so it destroys tissue, which means venom stuck in one location can destroy alot of tissue in one place.
This is such a valuable channel, really appreciate the info
Thank you from New York State, USA! We don't have a large variety of venomous snakes, but it's still important to know what to do.
In America this advice may not apply. With the exception of coral snakes and a couple others, the majority of venomous snakes you will encounter in the wild are vipers: rattlesnakes and copperheads. As a general rule vipers have cytotoxic and or hemotoxic venom that will cause swellin and necrosis(tissue death) so if you use a a compression bandage you're arguably accelerating the tissue necrosis on what ever limb you're bitten on.venomous snakes in Australia by contrast are entirely elapids with primarily nuerotoxic venom. This damages you by affecting your nervous system. Because of that, with those bites you want to stop the venom from circulating to your vital organs.
The first thing in my snake bite kit is a card that says "Stay away from places that have venomous snakes dumbass!"
Good job mate, seen way to many snakes this year your video make me feel better on my property.
wow so no cutting the wound with a Bowie knife and sucking out the venom! cheers Nick, awesome video.
MSK Chess
Don't even think about it hey you could cut a major artery then you introducing germs or somebody's mouth into your bitten skin and you can make the sucker sick because they're getting Venom in their mouth now
awesome stuff, thank you for the video! buying the kit you recommended right now
There's only one right way to treat a venomous snake bite and this is how.. One new sub mate, Greetings from the South African Herper.
Paul Swanepoel thanks mate!
As some one who lives in south Florida around rattlesnakes cotton mouth copper heads this might be something I need to get and I own other venomous snakes in captivity much love from Florida
Wow I never knew this!! Thank u so much for taking the time to make this video.
That was the first useful snake bite first aid advice I have ever seen. Hope and pray don't have to ever use it.
I'm guessing from. Your username you are from the US, this info will not apply to most snakes in the US, other than coral snakes. Wrapping a rattlesnake or moccasin bite can lead to alot of localized tissue damage, and possibly require amputation
What is the best treatment for these kind of bites? Before arriving at a hospital especially if that is a great distance away.
@@davyboone1794 if you're in the US and you're bitten by anything other than a coral snake keep the area immobilized as much as possible, and lower than the rest of your body, and get to a hospital ASAP, or if you're very far from a hospital, call 911 and they may send out a life flight or something
@@prodigypenn what makes the Venom in the coral snake and the Australian varieties different?
@@davyboone1794 it's not different, the coral snakes and the Australian snakes have similar venom, neurotoxin, which acts on the brain signals that tell you to breathe, causing you to potentially suffocate if you don't get treatment. The snakes that are different are the other snakes found in the US, such as rattlesnakes or water moccasins which have more cytotoxic venom, that causes tissue destruction
1. Stay calm as much as you can.
2. Wrap bandage around the arm, not tightly.
3. place splint on the arm to reduce muscle movement.
4. And lastly, mark the location of the bite. Am I tracking?
Fantastic video mate.. cheers.. just brought one.
Top notch mate & thanx I will put that Kit on my list of things I need to get with a new 1st Aid Kit.
Onya mate 👍
So right it does change from year to year and l do re do the course every 12 months myself, those bandages are a great idea and will have a look for them. absolutely brilliant advice and l will share this on my facebook as it is certainly that time of year here in Australia and those snakes are looking for water in our backyards too.
Gotta love carpet pythons thanks Gaye
Yes I love these bandages as they were invented by an Australian snake catcher specifically for Australian snakebites
I've been involved with venomous snakes since early 90's, and worked behaviour/education/safety etc etc etc and nothing has really ever changed regarding the Pressure Immobilisation Method/technique.
Still the same as first described in 1978 by Straun Sutherland and his colleagues,.
Since it's inception always been and will be:
-Apply a firm broad bandage or similar directly over the bite site, at the same pressure as for a 'sprained ankle'
- Apply the bandage over as much of the rest of the bitten limb as practical. (Ensure fingers or toes are covered to immobilise them)
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Ensure the bitten limb is kept motionless by applying a splint and instructing the patient to cease all use of the limb and any general activity
-Seek appropriate medical assistance immediately.
It's not rocket science, and any respected Australian First Aid book from the last 40years will have the same information from CSL probably in them.
We could teach a classroom of 6yr olds in 10minutes how to do it, and they do remember it if know how to make it fun. Bloody amazes me though how many adults can't treat snakebites properly in this day and age. lol
Re: the snakes looking for water.
Your snakes aren't coming in for water, they are coming around for the food/prey items- little skinks, birds, frogs, rodents, small mammals....
Eliminate the food supply and will minimise the snaked encounters pretty much.
What do you do if you are attacked by a python
Very good..Well explained and to the point. The information here may just save someone's life..
Thanks for this. Heading out to a Tiger-snake infested area for a bushwalk next month ... I have learned a lot from your video and have bought myself a smart bandage. Thanks again.
I was bitten by a Taipan, it nearly killed me 3 times over 3 Days , The poison affected my eye site, peed blood, glands poisoned , couldn’t breathe enough , kldneys. Nearly failed , then a blood clot sucked through my heart then it started to go up my juggler vein in my neck , I grabbed my neck and got back to hospital .had it dissolved. A close shave ! One fang mark in my foot was 3/4” inch long.
Great video. Love snakes and have always been looking for rattlesnakes in the US. Haven’t been bitten but expect to. Glad I watched the video. It is simple and to the point and my kit I find is a little lacking. Luca
You do not use compression bandages on rattlesnake bites, the only snake in the US you would use it for are coral snakes. Wrapping a bite from a pit viper will cause more damage to the area that was bitten
love your shows and so do my students.... Thank you Brus
Excellent video, thanks. I’m getting a kit 😊
LOVE your channel. Great information shared. Really like the longer videos with more info. Keep up the good work.
DJ Lane thanks mate
Just getting used to the idea not everyone is like me with ADHD and only watches short videos haha
The wrapping method seems a bit ambiguous. Do you wrap from the bite up, or just wrap the entire limb regardless of where the bite is located? What if the bite is high up like near the shoulder or buttocks , or even mid torso? If you are bit on the neck are you toast immediately?
This tje only right advice i am seeing after 35 years, something i learned in the school.
I’d need to be treated for a heart attack first
Lmao!!!
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Excellent video
#truth
I'm dealing with water moccasins quite often here in Florida 🌴..... This seems like a very sensible response
Thanks mate 👍🙂
this does not apply to most snakes in the US, especially cottonmouths, wrapping that up will probably do more damage and may cause you to lose a limb
@@prodigypenn ok.... Lol...now I'm screwed....just bought a snake bite kit from the dood I can not use here in FL 🌴.... I'm out of a hundred dollars 😖
@@MrGaborseres it can still be applied to coral snake bites, but most snakes in the US have tissue destroying venom. If you apply a pressure bandage it traps the venom in one area, potentially causing more damage to that one area, instead of spreading
@@prodigypenn thanks for advice 👍
Thanks for this video mate, I have snakes on my property and enjoy watching them in their natural habitat without bothering them, chances are I may accidentally step on a snake one day and possibly get bitten. This is the most informative instruction I've seen. Thankyou so much for this video.
This was so helpful, thank you!
Hey Nick, thanks heaps for the first aid lesson mate. Very valuable stuff to know, when living amongst the snakes we have here. I'm in Healesville, so we get tigers, red bellies and browns, so this is handy to know. Keep up the great content mate! 🇦🇺👍☺
My friend got bitten between the legs. We got on the CB radio and asked for medical help.
The doctor said, you need to suck the poison out, or your friend will die.
Our bitten friend said, " what did the doctor say"
He said you were going to die.
Thank you very much for the link to the snake bite kit I've just bought one because we've had a different type of snake hanging around at the moment that we aren't sure about. It is a dark greyish/black snake with a brownish coloured head. Someone told me that it is a copper head but we live inland of Noosa in Qld in the Mary Valley near the Borumba Dam and I noticed in articles and your own video on Copper heads that they don't live in Qld. So, we don't know for sure what it is because snake colouration is no way to ID a snake as you rightly say. Love your videos btw and I've subbed as well because they're so good ;-)
Hope it's not a coastal taipan lol, it is the most dangerous snake in Australia, 100% untreated mortality rate, even worse envenomation than inland taipan (80% untreated mortality rate). And kicks the eastern brown out of the park (15% untreated mortality rate).
In fact the eastern brown isn't even in the top 5 most lethal human envenomations in Australia, as you also have the death adder (60%), tiger snake (50%), and mulga snake (35%).
The coastal taipan also has the highest untreated mortality rate in the world, with black mamba second also with a 100% untreated mortality rate. However there are rare exceptions of people surviving black mamba untreated, whereas there are no exceptions with coastal taipan.
Some say well what about the 1949 case of an aboriginal surviving coastal taipan. Well while he wasn't administered anti-venom, he was still professionally medically treated in hospital, so that is in fact not an untreated case.
What I say is that the coastal taipan has 'literally' 100% untreated mortality rate, while black mamba has 'virtually' 100% untreated mortality rate.
However I do consider the black mamba the most dangerous snake to encounter due to the fact that it has virtually the same envenomation lethality as the coastal taipan, but is also even larger, even faster, even more agile, aggressive and athletic, so more chance of being tagged.
And both of them do no dry bites lol.
@@alantaylor6691 Okay, I'll check them out and see what they look like to compare it with the snakes we see here. Thank you for the information and warning of just how kick arse they are lol.
@@jodyknight
Coastal taipans tend to be fairly big compared to other Australian venomous snakes, they are Australia's largest venomous snake. Kick arse in so many ways!
Also regarding coastal taipans, while I said they are not as agile and aggressive as black mamba, they are still extremely agile and aggressive as far as snakes go, very accurate and fast and are quite likely to strike if you step near and startle it. There are a lot of fish in the sea so probably isn't one, but good to rule it out lol.
@@alantaylor6691 Oh dear, some of the photos look exactly like what I've seen here, especially the ones with dark coloured body and a paler more brown/yellowish colour on their head. It's amazing how their colouration can be so varied. I noticed some incredibly bright orange/copper coloured ones as well and it makes me wonder if the snake we only usually see at night, when it's raining especially, that is orange/copper on top and yellow on the underside is one too but someone told me that is more likely to be a 'night tiger'. That snake is very calm though and it climbs well. It will do a recognisance mission through our shed/house at night or very early in the morning before the sun's up and search for mice.
I have trodden very close to it on a few occasions but it never strikes or gets nasty it is very docile it seems. It has even searched in the recliner chair I was sitting in and touched my arm very briefly and it's amazing how small of a touch of snake skin on my arm told my body 'get up get up NOW that was a snake!!' lmao.
Great video. Thanks for sharing!
This is a Excellent channel and I think this should be taught in not just schools but in all work places that work outdoors! It's work health safety ACT 2012. But it's plain and simple Work Health Safety Comon Sense. Thanks again
We actually do in person snakebite training for businesses in regional victoria where we team up with a registered first aid trainer
Hopefully this becomes more mainstream
@@WannonCreekWildlife That's great. All National Parks and River Management, Local Councils, Bush Workers, Logging Timber Industries ect should be doing your course. What happens if somebody gets bitten or killed by a shark at any beach?! It's a No Brainer! Occupational Health And Safety. OHS. Great work you are doing and Excellent Utube Channel that's Educational in staying safe from being bitten by a snake administering First Aid and Saving Lives! Best Regards
Great video, I wonder if they ship that kit to the US.
Thank you. Will carry one when I go out mountain biking
Thank you for the information. Very well presented. Regards
Thanks Nick! Have ordered a kit. Nearly stepped on what I believe to be a tiger snake the other day. Thankfully, it slithered away after I nudged it with my foot! Could you do a video on when an unbanded snake is a tiger snake and when a banded snake is a brownie? This snake was quite large (thought it was a rabbit at first, before I realised I was looking at scales and not fur), olive grey in colour and unbanded. Didn't see the head though. I tried to convince myself it was an olive python because of the colour, only to find out they don't live in the Illawarra region of NSW! 🤣 First time I've seen a snake on that walk (walked it plenty during lockdown). It was a good reminder to not get too complacent when out walking. Especially when walking solo... Won't be doing that walk again until my kit arrives.
Beauty of a video.
gonna watch more of your video's
Good advice always keep bandages handy live central Victoria
Very helpful advice thank you
Not at much risk in the uk but handy to know just incase lol. So thank you Nick. Loving your videos & I've shared with other reptile & animal lovers who I'm sure will subscribe.
Spacey Chapman thanks for sharing :) every subscriber helps!
OK mate....you just sold me that snake bite kit..... 👍 Thanks for the information....now all I need is snake bite 😬....actually I don't need that at all..... 🙂 But I came very very close on a number of occasions one of them snakes were a pigmy viper, the other few were cotton mouths .....
I watched this video after stepping on a water moccasin the other day. Didn't bite me due to a super human leap away from it. He was under my boat I was pushing off the bank. Thanks for the info.
My neck of the woods hosts cotton mouth and copperhead. I carry a "proactive" snake kit when I'm out working cattle, etc. It's a .38 revolver with number 9 rat shot.
Rest In Pieces
In Australia, we call that a "yahoo attitude".
Snakes are a protected species in Australia. Plus, there's no need to kill them just because you see one, that's how most bites occur in Australia.
@@c.r.mcleod8959 Keep 'em in Australia!
Great explanation.
Great video!
I was once bitten by an Eastern Brown just above my right thumb while I was working at a cemetery. There was no one else around but I knew someone would come along at some point and I took my T-shirt off and wrapped my hand halfway up my arm and sat under a tree near the gate of the cemetery. I sat there for a while and was perplexed as I was feeling nothing from the bite. 1-hour went by and I was still feeling nothing from the bite, so at that point, I was thinking I must be immune to them the same way as I am immune to Yellow-Faced whip snakes and Blue Bottle jellyfish. Luckily I never put it to the test as I have since found out that most of the time their first bite is a dry one.
Excellent thank you very much.
from your advice in this video, i just purchased recommended snake bite kit from the link.
I encounter at least one snake a week, be it a Brown, Red Belly Black OR a Taipan. I dont worry about 'Bob', the 9 foot python, even though im terrified of snakes.
watching your video's is helping me understand them, attempting to get over my fear.
Cheers for sharing.
You need to do a video on the same subject but assuming you don't have luxury items such as a snake bite kit. As an example, when at a friends property I often like to go for a walk, the property is 200 acres, no mobile phone coverage and very few tracks, if bitten by a snake I would have to travel over a kilometer to get back to the house to raise the alarm (this is not flat terrain).
Good information stay safe
thx mate you spot on ...
Great video 👍
Excellent video - thanks so much!
Nice ! very informative
DReis 7 glad you enjoyed it mate
This video is old enough to do again. That way YT algorithm moves it out to the non-subscribers “somewhat”.
You mention 3 deaths per the 3000 people bitten in Australia on average each year.
If the stats are kept, I am interested in knowing the number of people missing fingers, toes, parts of hands and legs collectively. The total or ruff approximation.
The current average hospital bill and if insurance refused to pay would be great too and assuming you do not have to devote your life to “hunting it down”.
Just a request.
Great info and good job.
Hey mate! I sure will do an update but have been waiting until the start of snake season here in Aus
Unfortunately a lot of that information is really lacking here as hospitals don’t actually have to report snake bite or keep statistics but I do have a few thoughts
1. Loss of digits, limbs ect is incredibly rare from Australian snake bite, as our snakes are mostly neurotoxic so rarther then destroying tissue they effect the nervous system. In places like India the number of people disabled by snake bite is many times higher then those that die
Also cost of treatment is tricky since here in australia we have free healthcare so it doesn’t actually come down to insurance, but in the US I’ve heard figures of between $100,000 and $500,000 medical bills for snake bite
@@WannonCreekWildlife Thank you for taking the time to respond. If the shoe fits …. have a Blessed Fathers Day and if over - a belated one. The info was great. Do include in your next video as most people like me would be clueless. As you guessed - US viewer here. Excellent, excellent job.
Is that all only wrapping? Thanx for demonstration
Great info always
good info!
Thanks mate!
Thanks for this video man
Great video
BE WARNED! This ONLY applies to Australian snakes which generally have short fangs so the venom enters the lymphatic system and not the blood. Snakes with long fangs such as cobras and rattlesnakes go through the lymphatic system into the blood stream. Compression bandages DO NOT WORK with long fanged bites.
As I understand, it is only the neurotoxin that goes into the lymphatic system because the molecules are too big to travel through the cardiovascular system. So the venom enters that near the heart where there is bigger arteries. The hemotoxic part of the venom however does have smaller molecules and if that goes in your blood, as I understand it your f***ked d for a long time... it dissolves the vein and you bleed out into your muscle tissue.. I have had both these venoms in my body and for 3 months I was as sick as anything. I was bruising everywhere, I had anemia and I was overall extremely nauseous and felt faint.. I also suffered heart failure and a small stroke after 4 weeks of the bite.. I'm still here but with a lot more awareness of my reptile guests who are looking for a meal :-) I just try stay out of their way and just leave them alone..
Listen to this man I wish I had seen this.
Thanks.best video
great but you are unrolling that bandage the wrong way, turn the roll over
Thanks Nick, I do a lot of remote travel in the outback and I do have the kit you have shown and I know how to apply it. My question is, help would take a long time to get to me that's if I can get a call away at all. So how long would I have assuming its a really bad snake? Give me an approx. I always travel alone so no one is going for help.
Need that here in Florida. Ive got a 4 year old boy and im a bit worried.
In Texas near Austin the local yocals wack a poisonous snake or spider bite including a black widow or brown recluse spider with a cattle prod. Apparently it is effective for them.
good video mate
So here in North America we are told never to wrap a snake bite unless it’s a coral snake which has neurotoxic venom. All other venomous snakes here are pit vipers with hemotoxic venom and wrapping it or using a tourniquet will trap the venom in one area and cause more localized tissue damage and necrosis. Some rattlesnake species have neurotoxic and hemotoxic venom combined. I’m just curious about your thoughts on this.
This is true, while I’m not an expert on snakes of the US I know they have different protocol
When I put this video out I never realised it would be popular enough to be watched anywhere outside of Australia 😂
Where can I buy the first aid kit you described