Why MMOs Are Bad For You

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  • Опубликовано: 6 ноя 2024

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  • @GameQuitters
    @GameQuitters  Год назад +5

    What's your experience like with MMOs?

    • @drinasun6984
      @drinasun6984 Год назад

      I played TERA Console for 5 years. I sunk hours into that game, day and night. Once I almost played the entire night. But I knew it couldn't go on. I decided one day that I was fed up with the game's negative energy, and as soon as I saw the chat messages, I put my characters up for deletion. The next day, I made sure all my characters were gone before I logged off for the last time and uninstalled the game for good.

    • @PrekiFromPoland
      @PrekiFromPoland Год назад

      None, thankfully. I never was into single-player RPGs anyway. But my brother was, and he naturally got sucked into the realm of MMOs. Back in 2007, the most popular game of the genre was Tibia. Ah yes, this Ultima ripoff turned multiplayer got him hooked for years, and many other people, since the only real requirement for this game was decent internet access, that's all, because it could run on a proverbial potato. I remember him spending even up to 12 hours a day, yes - twelve hours! Unlike a single-player game, you had to stay online to attend in-game events, go on big quests with a party that was assembled several days prior, or your character would turn up dead and losing valuable experience points. On top of that, he was threatening me with violence whenever he experienced latency, even if my own PC was shut down completely and I was doing nothing on the Internet! After long time he got over with playing Tibia, but he switched his attention to mobile games instead, and I always see him playing on his phone. I don't know how did he manage to get his degree, find a good-paying job or even a wife, with whom he has a kid.
      And what was his favorite parts of role-playing games in general? Story? Artistic direction? Gameplay mechanics? No, just the ability to mindlessly level up and beat everyone else up, that's all, which is why he found Tibia or any other MMO appealing. And one of his classmates during high school was even worse, to the point of skipping months of classes, and yet making it through each year somehow. They called that dude "Tibia-man".

    • @SiresOrbwits-oi8mz
      @SiresOrbwits-oi8mz 9 месяцев назад

      I'm glad my first mmo experience was ff14 and not wow. Every hardcore Wow player I ever talked to sounds jaded as hell. Like they're forced to stay with a person they don't like.

  • @w00d5m4n
    @w00d5m4n Год назад +26

    when u log in to interact with npcs but actually become the npc

  • @INFINITYREALM
    @INFINITYREALM Год назад +7

    I come from the opposite side. I'm a professional performing musician and dj, long time surfer, martial artist, meditation retreats, dated a lot, very full life. Now in this, my early forties, I like to game a lot. I'm finding games like Elden Ring just as satisfying and worthy of spending my life on. This whole life is a GAME. All the goals that we think are so important to the flesh character, are they really? Simulation. Everything is what it is, the line between addiction and joy - follow your heart. Surfers are some of the most addictive people I know and often have very limited mentalities. Parties and dance events feel repetitive and you see the same archetypes over and over. I'm finding much more joy these last few years stepping back and being alone playing games. We all need to find balance in life, without shoulds and shouldn'ts, for me I'm finding balance by gaming a lot right now. I do wish more people would talk about what positives gaming can bring into your life. I've found so many. Bless

    • @nenadmilovanovic5271
      @nenadmilovanovic5271 Год назад +8

      for someone in their 40s with a built career games can be a nice hobby. For someone in their 20s who are still trying to find what they want to do in life gaming can be very detrimental.

    • @tanmaykaushik5844
      @tanmaykaushik5844 6 месяцев назад

      Exactly​@@nenadmilovanovic5271

  • @galloviking4766
    @galloviking4766 Год назад +14

    If you think MMOs are bad, try mobile MMOs. The unholy combination of unrelenting addiction and rampant manipulation tactics to have you spend.

    • @GameQuitters
      @GameQuitters  Год назад +1

      💀💀 did an interview with a gaming addict who played evony recently, spent a lot of $ on that game: ruclips.net/video/Zj8WEoEmDk0/видео.html&feature=sharec

  • @christopherburns2922
    @christopherburns2922 Год назад +5

    Day 3 of the Gamer-Virus Detox: I experienced auditory hallucinations from Albion Online MMORPG fraction group dungeons where they play the same short melody over and over again. I would wake up and hear the melody non-stop for five hours straight after being awake and this would severely impact my ability to focus on work IRL. Even when I turned the game music off, I would still hear the auditory hallucinations while playing group dungeons. It took days off the game for the hallucinations to stop occurring and preventing me from succeeding IRL. I have no doubt that depression and anxiety would set in if I continued to game.

    • @GameQuitters
      @GameQuitters  Год назад +1

      🙏🏼🙏🏼 3 days let’s keep it up

  • @muizxmuiz
    @muizxmuiz Год назад +7

    Im 33 and I still remembering mmorpg that I played in 2003 quite often. hell, the brain fog never leave me.

  • @Steve8864
    @Steve8864 Год назад +4

    Some game designers have really perfected the formula of incentivising continual play.
    As a problem WoW player, I have found it so easy to sink in hours, days into the game and use up all that free time I have with WoW rather than other activities. At the same time I feel like the game is providing certain social needs along with my need to achieve and to progress myself.
    I find myself thinking of the game even while I am not playing it, quite often into the early hours of the morning. It has really grabbed me in a way that other things fail to do, I am always looking at more game related content online and in online communities, youtube, twitch and reddit.
    The amount of life I have used up playing this game is something that I try to avoid thinking about. I think it might be too late to change my lifestyle after decades of this habit.

    • @gtnhcth5643
      @gtnhcth5643 Год назад +1

      It's not too late. It's like finishing kindergarten or high school. It's just gone and you can't get it back. You have to move on.

    • @calebdrake338
      @calebdrake338 Год назад +1

      Steve you have the whole rest of your life to change what you do with your days. Eventually, the games will leave your mind and it will feel like a entirely different life you lived. Being consistent and building momentum towards other things in life is going to be key

    • @gtnhcth5643
      @gtnhcth5643 Год назад +2

      Just start going out. Get some exercise. Join a sports club and just walk around. You don't even have to do anything. Just go. You'll get there and something won't work out. Don't get discouraged. Those who do well, they go for a long time. And your goal is not to achieve results, but just to walk. After 10 classes, you'll have acquaintances. And if you sign up for dancing, you will have girl friends.
      I know. Games are totally absorbing. Exciting. But you just have to start living in reality. And the best place to start is with regular exercise. Don't work out, just do it.

  • @Academic_G
    @Academic_G Год назад +3

    Quit gaming for about 7 months. Came back to into a full blown fallback into addictive behaviour starting innocently with listening to some music from Runescape, but then noticing Nostalgia, and thinking "Ah, I can probably stick to play just a couple of hours and only this summer vacation".
    Boy, was I wrong, immediatly I had a hard time stopping playing, binged a weekend, and I wanted to play every weekend after, also after the vacation. Happy I turned my back to gaming again by being fair and square: I'm powerless over it and I can only stop if I see how much addictive potential it has over me.
    Now >30 days living sober again. Life is much better without games.

    • @GameQuitters
      @GameQuitters  Год назад

      Glad you’re doing better. It can definitely happen fast but you’re on the right track again keep it up 🙏🏼🙌🏼

    • @TheREALHugo4
      @TheREALHugo4 Год назад

      It is. Make sure you stick to your goals.

  • @drinasun6984
    @drinasun6984 Год назад +1

    I played TERA Console for 5 years. I played that game day and night. I quit last year because I was disgusted by the game's low vibration. I could get through the server merges, the game changing publishers, the glitches, crashes, freezes, and lack of content. But the game's energy repulsed me so much, I snapped and deleted my characters the very next day. When I tried it for the first time since leaving two years ago, I immediately uninstalled again because I decided that the game wasn't for me anymore.

  • @clawscrab3497
    @clawscrab3497 Год назад +2

    I on;y ever really played one MMO and the was GTA online. But I found that doing the same set of missions over and over again does become tedious and predictable. There are only so many different ways you can complete mission and I reckon I tried all of them with every mission I played.
    The most interesting part was something I was discussing with someone recently about playing the game with a female avatar, and of course having to deal with the inevitible sexist comments which only shows how toxic some MMO players can be. That's why I tried to play in solo sessions only.
    The main downside is how the game is designed, where other players are incentivized to blow you up, especially if there is in-game profit to be made from doing so, which I found to be most frustrating part of the gaming experience for me, seeing how hard i worked obtain this virtual "stuff"
    The underlying problem is that some people create these virtual realities as a way to not have to deal with what's going on in this world, and i'm certainly no different in this regard because like millions of other players, that is exactly what I did. But after quitting I tried to make this reality better for me so I wouldn't feel the need to escape into a made up one...

  • @mateiirimia1058
    @mateiirimia1058 Год назад +3

    Played wow for like 14 years, quit 2 years ago, yet almost every day or every few days scenes from the game come into my mind, with music from areas like teldrassil, darkshore, eversong woods, terrokar forest. Crazy shit.

    • @GameQuitters
      @GameQuitters  Год назад

      Thanks for sharing

    • @GodlessFiend
      @GodlessFiend Год назад

      14 yrs? Holy frick you’ve seen everything

    • @devincampbell5007
      @devincampbell5007 6 месяцев назад

      I’ve been playing WoW for 19 years and I still haven’t left. In November it will be 20 years straight

  • @luisphiliperocha6122
    @luisphiliperocha6122 10 месяцев назад

    Wow man, thanks for talking about this issue. Since I discovered MMOs I developed an addictive personality regarding games. I'd always chase that dopamine rush by farming or upgrading my gear, which gives you a false sensation of progress (that you're most likely not having irl). 99% of MMOs are meticulously designed to get you addicted and keep you that way. Naturally, over time it gets worse because of the sunk cost fallacy. The funny thing is that the absurd amounts of time and even money you've put into the game don't add any value to your life. I find it criminal that all these companies can get away with making kids and teens addicted to their games, especially mobile ones which are extremely accessible and way more addictive and expensive due to gacha systems and p2w or pay-to-progress designs. Once again, thanks for your honesty and for giving solid advice. Back in the golden era of video games we'd play *when* we had the time to, after finishing homework and stuff, and a lot of times with our friends (local multiplayer), and guess what? We weren't addicted to games. That's why I appreciate SP/offline games 100x more and I've been working on finishing the games sitting in my Steam library for so long. It's such a relief! Keep doing what you do, cheers.

  • @EvolutionInsider
    @EvolutionInsider Год назад +3

    A tip on how I quit gaming. Start making a game like the one you are addicted to. Playing the game eventually gets boring. And you become a programmer.

    • @devincampbell5007
      @devincampbell5007 6 месяцев назад

      Well I don’t have experience in making games

  • @nenadmilovanovic5271
    @nenadmilovanovic5271 Год назад +1

    I relapsed this weekend and re-installed an mmo I played years ago. I spent 16h this weekend, two full shifts just grinding mobs. On Monday I had bloodshot eyes, my lower back hurt and my anxiety was through the roof, yet I wanted to play more before work. I uninstalled that shit yesterday, dragon I really need to fight is addiction so that I can do productive things in life, get a better job and a cert. Virtual dragons are just that, VIRTUAL.

  • @unattendedcandle
    @unattendedcandle Год назад +4

    Cam, thanks for shouting from the rooftops for so long on the gaming issue. It’s unfortunate that more people don’t take the issue seriously.

  • @heather_hill_HHH
    @heather_hill_HHH 3 месяца назад

    I became addicted to old Runescape and did badly in my A levels and social life. Was heavily emotionally attached to the story and music, places etc. Luckily even ingame I was bit of a loner. I managed to basically say to myself "the game is dead" and quit for a while. After new updates I couldn't go back because it had changed in ways I didn't like. So I was more or less saved for a while.
    Now after years I've gone back to gaming small offline games. Then I start looking for a small social game platform like club penguin. I find palia, thought couldn't do much harm. Then I come across Elder scrolls online and am tempted again. Its like all the painful lessons have been forgotten. Sigh.

  • @vembrace
    @vembrace Год назад +4

    @2:15 she could have finished a PhD with how long it took her to finish the game.

    • @GameQuitters
      @GameQuitters  Год назад +1

      669 days played is almost 2 full years of life 👀

    • @Steve8864
      @Steve8864 Год назад +1

      if you change 669 days played into how much time would that take if you played the game like a full time job - 40 hours a week (5 days * 8 hours daily per week) you end up with the number of it would take 7.7 years to reach that played time.

  • @JonnyCrackers
    @JonnyCrackers 9 месяцев назад +2

    It's impossible for me to get addicted to MMOs because they're the most boring genre of video game ever created. It actually blows my mind how many people sit and play games like WoW or ESO for hours upon hours every day. I'd rather watch paint dry.

    • @cheerful_crop_circle
      @cheerful_crop_circle 2 дня назад

      Well , I think turn-based, puzzle and simulator games are more boring than MMOs

  • @destroytheboxes
    @destroytheboxes Год назад +8

    It is ALL about finding something to fill the gap gaming leaves. If you don’t find something, games will come back. Lots of mental fortitude needed to move on.

  • @retropursuit992
    @retropursuit992 Год назад +6

    Thing is, I know plenty of people that still function and achieve great things whilst playing video games.
    You only need to quit if you have an addictive personality and can’t restrain yourself.
    You can also come back at a later time when you get to where you want in life.
    I quit for 3-4 years and got myself a great project manager job for a construction firm, earn good money but now I also play games as well.
    When I quit I realised that I’m not actually interested in doing things like travelling, becoming a gym rat or being a social butterfly. Decide what makes you happy in life and do it.

  • @SiresOrbwits-oi8mz
    @SiresOrbwits-oi8mz 9 месяцев назад +1

    Ff14 (not 16) is designed for casual gamers with the option to increase difficulty. All of it's rewards aren't locked behind a grind and the game developers have stated time and time again that their mmo is not designed for long time play. Expansions and patches give you some new content that can usually be beaten with in a week and then it's back to the content drought.

    • @enonz761
      @enonz761 4 месяца назад

      As a new sprout I strongly disagree. The game is higly addictive and I am thinking of quitting. I am about 80 hrs in it and still a total noob

  • @leolundgren3989
    @leolundgren3989 Год назад

    Kinda ironic that the RUclips algorithm flags this channel as a pro-gaming channel. It’s the only time I’m exposed to gaming ads before the video.
    Anyways, screw MMO’s and keep up the good work with the channel!

  • @pye5114
    @pye5114 9 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for this video. I'm on my second attempt at quitting FF14 and I'm hoping this time I can resist and stay strong.

  • @extrememinimalism
    @extrememinimalism 3 месяца назад

    How does Origins Habbo Hotel come in among all of this? And OSRS runescape.

  • @rubygod2
    @rubygod2 Год назад

    There is this mobile game that is a lot like MMOs. Geometry Dash. I was addicted to the game for 2 years before I quit and started self improvement in December 2022. Now, during September/October 2023, a new update is gonna be coming out after 6.5 years and my addiction is starting to come back, and I am just getting urges to play. I have relapsed many times in the past 2-3 months, but now thatI watched this video I know 100% that gaming is not fro me because I am an absolute addict for this game. I scored 9/9 on the test.

  • @michadomeracki5910
    @michadomeracki5910 Год назад +1

    MMORPGS are just bad games. They sacrifice gameplay for the social aspect which no one wants. Everyone plays MMOs as single player games so an open world is worthless but now we have gameplay mechanics that are just bad. Other games do combat and exploration and quests just better but MMOs at least have thousands gamers at once... which is worthless. It is a constant race for stuff you don't need (so called end game). MMO is the worst genre of games.

  • @wowwar2
    @wowwar2 17 дней назад

    is this even about MMOs specifically?
    Why can't we all agree that doing 'anything' for all of your time to the point where you neglect your responsibilities is bad.
    gymming all day, reading all day, watching tv all day, listening to music all day, working all day

  • @GoosePlays20
    @GoosePlays20 Год назад

    When you go to watch one of these videos and the adverts are games…

  • @yuzuke4573
    @yuzuke4573 Год назад

    its hard to find friends of people when they prefer to play video games rather than going
    outside!

    • @GameQuitters
      @GameQuitters  Год назад

      A lot of people out there that don’t play games - find new group classes 🙌🏼

  • @romasliv
    @romasliv Год назад +1

    I was struggling with addiction but i believe i really become detached from games mostly with God's help after long time of struggling, the ammount of suffering that did come into my life cuz of this addiction really make me stop craving for it, Im a catholic and as a catholic i believe that suffering can have a purify effect in us, also 30 years old now, so i dont see any sense in staying gaming, it's time for me to be a real man, not a eternal tennager so gaming makes no sense for me anymore.

    • @GameQuitters
      @GameQuitters  Год назад

      Glad you’re doing better 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙌🏼

  • @bludclone
    @bludclone 11 месяцев назад +2

    MMOs are designed to waste your time plain and simple.

    • @mikemayo4812
      @mikemayo4812 9 месяцев назад +1

      Just like any hobby that doesn't benefit your life or make you money. Watching TV shows is another big example.

    • @cheerful_crop_circle
      @cheerful_crop_circle 2 дня назад

      ​@@mikemayo4812Video games are entertainment, not a hobby

    • @mikemayo4812
      @mikemayo4812 2 дня назад

      @cheerful_crop_circle lmao. What's the difference?

  • @cheerful_crop_circle
    @cheerful_crop_circle 2 дня назад

    By MMO , do you mean ARPG ones?

  • @ElliottHart
    @ElliottHart Год назад

    Great video, mmo are a interesting beast.

  • @fernandojoseraquel9150
    @fernandojoseraquel9150 Месяц назад

    In short you live inside of the screen you play

  • @TheREALHugo4
    @TheREALHugo4 Год назад +2

    MMO's. The genre i'm happy i never started on.
    Time-consuming, expensive stuff, and daily challenges that never ends.
    That's how i can describe how long these mmo's are.

  • @k9gamerz145
    @k9gamerz145 28 дней назад

    If she worked a minimum wage job she would have earned $116,000 😂

  • @DutchChristianBoy7
    @DutchChristianBoy7 Год назад

    I am addicted to FIFA

  • @jaycolins2430
    @jaycolins2430 Год назад

    Would you consider Roblox an MMO?

    • @GameQuitters
      @GameQuitters  Год назад

      Seems to be more and more moving in that direction.

    • @jaycolins2430
      @jaycolins2430 Год назад

      @@GameQuitters based on your descriptions and how my son talks about his experience with the platform I kind of agree.

  • @KitKatNisa
    @KitKatNisa 8 месяцев назад +1

    This is just my opinion, but if you get genuinely addicted to video games, MMO or otherwise, you have serious addiction issues you need to work on, and it's not the game's fault. You'd just as easilly get addicted to ANYTHING that gives you the same feeling as an MMO. Please don't blanket-blame a genre of video games, or anything for that matter, because some people can't balance their lives properly.

    • @deorwynn3597
      @deorwynn3597 3 месяца назад +1

      Yeah I don't think the guy here is stating that gaming is ultimately bad. It's more that if you're struggling with gaming addiction then MMOs have the most opportunities to keep you invested or hooked. There are tons of examples of people having healthy relationships with gaming. Channels like this are more like "Okay you have a problem? Here's how to fix it or get better". I think someone who plays an MMO for 5 hours a week and lives a fulfilling life doesn't need to hear this channel's message

  • @DutchChristianBoy7
    @DutchChristianBoy7 Год назад

    I came to your channel because of sports games not mmo's i always associated mmo's with disgusting weirdos who play it.

  • @supinthiam5741
    @supinthiam5741 Год назад +1

    Future mmos. Ai npcs that you can virtually f**

    • @w00d5m4n
      @w00d5m4n Год назад +1

      and a matrix style stasis chamber so we never have to stop playing

    • @GameQuitters
      @GameQuitters  Год назад

      😂😂

    • @Academic_G
      @Academic_G Год назад +1

      Dystopian for sure. People will become spoiled and not want to make effort and appreciate normal daily live. Nietzches idea of the fallen man.