Here's the game data for these cars: - Model 3 has a 82kWh battery & 397kW total motor power (~= 12 minutes 20 seconds) - Model S has a 85kWh battery & 306kW total motor power (~= 16 minutes 40 seconds) - BMW i3 has a 18.8kWh battery & 125kW total motor power (~= 9 minutes) - Taycan has a 93kWh battery & 560.52kW total motor power (~= 10 minutes) - I don't have the data from the latest version of the game so I can't check the Afeela or the Skoda VGT :( - Jaguar VGT SV has a 100kWh battery & 1000kW total motor power (~= 6 minutes) - Porsche VGT has a 87kWh battery & 790kW total motor power (~= 6 minutes 35 seconds) - VW ID.R has a 60kWh battery & 500.2kW total motor power (~= 7 minutes 10 seconds) - Audi e-tron VGT has 300kWh battery & 400kW total motor power (~= 45 minutes) It mostly matches your findings but a few are different: I suspect aerodynamic drag might be a large factor as to why the i3, VW ID.R & Porsche VGT to be "out of order" compared to calculations from the data.
Wow okay, that's very interesting! Assuming the times quoted are for x1 consumption? But thank you for this, adding a bit of insight to this rather unscientific lil experiment :)
@@Sideways-Smiling Yep, those times are just from capacity÷power values so they'll be for 1x "fuel" consumption. And no worries, I saw someone share this & figured seeing the data behind it might be interesting for others.
Audi VGT's battery size has to be the most ridiculous, then again it's VGT so I guess they can make up a number I've played around with datas a bit, Formula E battery for example has 51 kWh battery, 284 kg weight Thats means a density of 0.181 kWh per kg or 181 Wh/kg Let's apply that to the Audi and the battery alone would weigh 1600+ kg / 3600+ lbs Then again I googled and found that scientists managed to increase the density up to 4 times that, 711 Wh/kg, which would bring Audi's battery weight down to 422 kg Conclusion: Batteries are heavy, nothing beats good ol gasoline, with a density of approx 10,000 Wh/kg or 10 kWh/kg Most inefficient example being the Veyron, with approx 2,000 Wh/kg or 2 kWh/kg
I wonder if those seats line up for the Audi VGT given its the only one of the electric vgts that actually exists. And from seeing some footage, at least in performance it appears to live up to the in game stats however would be interesting to know how large the battery on the real one is
I wonder if those stats line up for the real Audi VGT given its the only one of the electric vgts that actually exists. And from seeing some footage, at least in performance it appears to live up to the in game stats however would be interesting to know how large the battery on the real one is
The Jaguar SV’s description describes it as a Le Mans style racer… The battery life begs to differ. Yeesh! I also knew that the Audi was the best of these. It’s a really great car to use legitimately in events, too. Works amazingly well in WTC 800 trim, and can compete-ish in WTC 900. I love it!
Interesting video, but surely a more scientific version would be to do this on Special Stage Route X, that would negate any braking and potential driver error.
Agreed. I'd love to have battery upgrade packages for sale at GT Auto or the tuning shop, even if it was expensive and came with a weight penalty to even things out a bit.
It would have been nice to see the Hyundai 2025 and the Chaparrel 2X in here as well. The one thing that narks me about the EV's in this game is how when you do a race with fuel consumption the range of the EV's doesn't really reflect real life IMO. They just seem to drop off and die within a lap or so. A Subaru Impreza can do 303 miles on a full tank and an i3 can do 180. Yet in a 5 lap race around Tsukuba on 2x fuel the i3 is dead on lap 2 and the Impreza can do the whole race. Why? ICE cars in the game can have their fuel mapped regardless to whether they are a race car or not. You aren't allowed to fuel map/battery conserve an EV. Also, it annoys me how you can't stop the hybrid boost in hybrid cars from draining when we don't need it. It would be nice if we could switch it off when running low so we can recharge the battery properly.
Hey, don't know if you knew, but the Hyundai VGT car is also an EV vehicle that would possibly rival the Audi VGT. I'm also curious if the Porsche VGT open top version is any different or just a copy paste situation.
Interesting, why is the consumption so drastically high? The model 3 for example would go much further in real life and there is quite a few sources of people doing so online
Wouldn't say mock but simulate. They're great for the short term events but terrible in endurance events as the recharge time is much longer and unclear than the refueling parameters.
Here's the game data for these cars:
- Model 3 has a 82kWh battery & 397kW total motor power (~= 12 minutes 20 seconds)
- Model S has a 85kWh battery & 306kW total motor power (~= 16 minutes 40 seconds)
- BMW i3 has a 18.8kWh battery & 125kW total motor power (~= 9 minutes)
- Taycan has a 93kWh battery & 560.52kW total motor power (~= 10 minutes)
- I don't have the data from the latest version of the game so I can't check the Afeela or the Skoda VGT :(
- Jaguar VGT SV has a 100kWh battery & 1000kW total motor power (~= 6 minutes)
- Porsche VGT has a 87kWh battery & 790kW total motor power (~= 6 minutes 35 seconds)
- VW ID.R has a 60kWh battery & 500.2kW total motor power (~= 7 minutes 10 seconds)
- Audi e-tron VGT has 300kWh battery & 400kW total motor power (~= 45 minutes)
It mostly matches your findings but a few are different:
I suspect aerodynamic drag might be a large factor as to why the i3, VW ID.R & Porsche VGT to be "out of order" compared to calculations from the data.
Wow okay, that's very interesting!
Assuming the times quoted are for x1 consumption?
But thank you for this, adding a bit of insight to this rather unscientific lil experiment :)
@@Sideways-Smiling Yep, those times are just from capacity÷power values so they'll be for 1x "fuel" consumption.
And no worries, I saw someone share this & figured seeing the data behind it might be interesting for others.
Audi VGT's battery size has to be the most ridiculous, then again it's VGT so I guess they can make up a number
I've played around with datas a bit, Formula E battery for example has 51 kWh battery, 284 kg weight
Thats means a density of 0.181 kWh per kg or 181 Wh/kg
Let's apply that to the Audi and the battery alone would weigh 1600+ kg / 3600+ lbs
Then again I googled and found that scientists managed to increase the density up to 4 times that, 711 Wh/kg, which would bring Audi's battery weight down to 422 kg
Conclusion: Batteries are heavy, nothing beats good ol gasoline, with a density of approx 10,000 Wh/kg or 10 kWh/kg
Most inefficient example being the Veyron, with approx 2,000 Wh/kg or 2 kWh/kg
I wonder if those seats line up for the Audi VGT given its the only one of the electric vgts that actually exists. And from seeing some footage, at least in performance it appears to live up to the in game stats however would be interesting to know how large the battery on the real one is
I wonder if those stats line up for the real Audi VGT given its the only one of the electric vgts that actually exists. And from seeing some footage, at least in performance it appears to live up to the in game stats however would be interesting to know how large the battery on the real one is
Why the hell did they restrict evs to onemakes💀
No Clue
Like that in GT Sport as well, makes no sense
@@Sideways-Smiling And yet they push EVs into the game so much. Alright, but make me do whatever I want with them lol
Do charging station's real life ?
@@szymon6207 Huh? I'm just wondering why I can't race my Taycan against my other ICE street cars lol
The Jaguar SV’s description describes it as a Le Mans style racer…
The battery life begs to differ. Yeesh!
I also knew that the Audi was the best of these. It’s a really great car to use legitimately in events, too. Works amazingly well in WTC 800 trim, and can compete-ish in WTC 900. I love it!
Yeah, doing this video has given me a new found appreciation for the Audi VGT - I like how it drives too
@@Sideways-Smiling I also found the appreciation for the regular (non Gr.1) N 2025 since it has the same battery consumption.
Interesting video, but surely a more scientific version would be to do this on Special Stage Route X, that would negate any braking and potential driver error.
This would be a pretty good idea
It would, but it would also be a pretty boring video
@@Sideways-Smilingthey should all be going the same speed 65mph
@@michaelgomez4994what use would that info be to anyone why wants to ruse the cars tho
@@TinyBearTim witch cars is truly more efficient. not exactly fair when one car can barely go 90 and the other does 200
Actually. If I was to do this. Route X custom race. And put them all against each other. Then watch the replay and see what car does at what distance.
You can change fuel rate (and tire wear) in time trial. After you enter the track, go into settings, then event settings. You can adjust it there.
The E-Tron is a nice car to use in WTC700 and WTC800. It allows you to listen music without caring about shifting or adjust car sound
This is something I do a lot on the WTC 700, need to try this car for it though!
Do this but on SSRX so no regen or incline assist. Also, maybe consider limiting them to 60mph for a run and see who lasts longest.
Except for the giant fucking incline in the middle of the front straight
2:43 2.7 miles……miles…..miles……miles….miles 😂
Odd bug there from my video editor, when I split the audio it sometimes takes it back a bit 😂
It really annoys me how polyphony put all these cars in the game and then made them completely unusable ☹️
Agreed. I'd love to have battery upgrade packages for sale at GT Auto or the tuning shop, even if it was expensive and came with a weight penalty to even things out a bit.
It would have been nice to see the Hyundai 2025 and the Chaparrel 2X in here as well. The one thing that narks me about the EV's in this game is how when you do a race with fuel consumption the range of the EV's doesn't really reflect real life IMO. They just seem to drop off and die within a lap or so. A Subaru Impreza can do 303 miles on a full tank and an i3 can do 180. Yet in a 5 lap race around Tsukuba on 2x fuel the i3 is dead on lap 2 and the Impreza can do the whole race. Why? ICE cars in the game can have their fuel mapped regardless to whether they are a race car or not. You aren't allowed to fuel map/battery conserve an EV. Also, it annoys me how you can't stop the hybrid boost in hybrid cars from draining when we don't need it. It would be nice if we could switch it off when running low so we can recharge the battery properly.
Man, the Audi VGT is juts so fun to drive, in large part because it still has decent range. Awesomely fun little car
Nice work matey, good editing
Appreciate it!
Hey, don't know if you knew, but the Hyundai VGT car is also an EV vehicle that would possibly rival the Audi VGT. I'm also curious if the Porsche VGT open top version is any different or just a copy paste situation.
You can have fuel consumption in Time trial, might be easier then doing a single player race
SI units please
Interesting, why is the consumption so drastically high? The model 3 for example would go much further in real life and there is quite a few sources of people doing so online
That settles it. My next electric car will be the Audi VGT
good to know thanks for the video
Damn, someone was putting some serious 🧠 power too work!!👍💯 Very interesting info, thanks. 🍻
Appreciate it!
Here's a tip: you can get EVs to race each other in Custom Races, but only if you are not racing in an EV yourself.
Check out part 2 where I do exactly that!
You forgot the Hyundai VGT which crushes all of these EVs. Not sure why THAT car in particular is so slept on.
That's hydrogen
@@DavidSmith-gx5mu The game does consider that as an EV. It has the same-ish range as the Audi e-tron VGT too.
Chapperal 2j: how about me?
@@DavidSmith-gx5mu There are two versions of this VGT and EVERYONE gets the two confused: the Gr.1 is Hydrogen while the MAIN car is EV.
well u can put them all together in a custom race, but they would all be ai u just have to be in an ICE car
I think they did this to mock evs because they have usually shorter ranges than combustion cars.
It was to more accurately similate the range. Polyphony has no reason to mock EVs.
Wouldn't say mock but simulate. They're great for the short term events but terrible in endurance events as the recharge time is much longer and unclear than the refueling parameters.
isnt the Chapparal 2X VGT EV as well? and is there really no rimac in GT7?
No Rimac yet
The Chaparral is Laser Propelled, not an EV
Thanks for the info video