Developing ground planted oaks - for bonsai

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  • Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
  • In this video I work on some oak trees which have been planted in the ground to develop and turn into future bonsai trees

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  • @TheBonsaiZone
    @TheBonsaiZone 2 года назад +9

    Lime Sulphur is for the trees not the legs! Great video Tony, nice seeing the Oaks!

    • @TonysBonsai
      @TonysBonsai  2 года назад +2

      🤣🤣🤣Now that comment will take some beating Nigel. That's hilarious!

  • @Bonsaicrazy
    @Bonsaicrazy 6 месяцев назад +2

    Really miss you Tony ❤❤
    Hi Tony’s family 👊👊👊

  • @mattbrennan647
    @mattbrennan647 2 года назад +8

    Field growing trees is a great way to develop your trees quickly. Very informative video. When doing this I take a shovel and sever the roots in a circle around the trunk as if I we’re going to be collecting the tree but leave it in the ground. This encourages fine feeder roots to develop so that when you actually collect the tree it has an established root base to support the tree. I repeat this in early spring until the tree is collected. Then severing the tap root is not a dangerous operation. Good luck with yours. Thanks, keep growing

    • @TonysBonsai
      @TonysBonsai  2 года назад +3

      good idea Matt. I plan on lifting these oaks next spring and doing some root work (tap root removal) and then putting them back in the ground on (a slate) for a couple more years before they finally go into pots. I will use the technique you suggest the year before I do the final lift. Thanks!

  • @BlueJayBonsai
    @BlueJayBonsai 2 года назад +3

    Great job Tony! Love to see pre bonsai growing in the ground! Makes me wish for a bigger garden… 😄

    • @TonysBonsai
      @TonysBonsai  2 года назад +1

      Yes, I'm lucky to have access to plenty of land. I have plans to get lots of trees in the ground next spring.

  • @scotthogbin613
    @scotthogbin613 2 года назад +1

    I was trying to think of a humorous comment about your white twin trunks your walking around on however i cant beat Nigels comment..😆
    Great video Tony..thankyou.

    • @TonysBonsai
      @TonysBonsai  2 года назад

      🤣🤣I know what you mean Scott. I was crying when I read that. very funny!

  • @DanielArhin
    @DanielArhin 3 месяца назад +1

    ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @XaviersBonsaiRetreat
    @XaviersBonsaiRetreat 2 года назад +3

    It's really good that you show how easy it is to develop your future bonsai in the garden first. I think we need to be more proactive at developing our home grown trees in this changing world climate. The only suggestion i would make with oaks is to cut the tap root by using a shovel around and under the growing tree. i normally undercut by about one foot each year and that usually gives a decent spread of new roots ready for when you recover it in the early winter. Keep it going Tony, Cheers Xav.

    • @TonysBonsai
      @TonysBonsai  2 года назад +2

      Thanks for the tip Xavier. Much appreciated! I am thinking that I will lift these trees next March. Cut off the tap root, and plant them on top of a slate or something similar to promote radial roots. Do you think that is a good time of year to do that?

  • @aronwalsh9680
    @aronwalsh9680 2 года назад +2

    Enjoyed that for a Sunday morning matey 👍

    • @TonysBonsai
      @TonysBonsai  2 года назад

      Thanks Aron. I'm doing some plastering in my bathroom this afternoon, so I hope you have a better day than me! 🤣

  • @allanculshaw378
    @allanculshaw378 2 года назад +1

    To be fair Tony I wasn't thinking about the exposure levels on your video - but I did check if we were alright for milk! Another cracking video pal and I'm going to be looking at developing some field grown material myself.

    • @TonysBonsai
      @TonysBonsai  2 года назад

      Well, I've always been proud of my leg's creamy colour!
      I'll have to come round and check out some of your trees mate!

  • @Tore1972Wisdom
    @Tore1972Wisdom 2 года назад +1

    Nice work Tony. Interesting how they will turn out in the future.

    • @TonysBonsai
      @TonysBonsai  2 года назад

      Thank you. Yes I have my fingers crossed for these!

  • @TheBonsaiGarden
    @TheBonsaiGarden 2 года назад +2

    Fantastic example of the benefits of allowing trees for bonsai to grow and develop in the ground to mature them. 👍
    Growing them over a cheap paving slab buried perhaps about 5 inches below the soil level also helps the roots to spread radially, saving time on root work in the longer term for migrating the tree to a shallow pot.
    The Japanese refer to managed garden trees as Niwaki. I think once you get the bonsai mindset it is almost impossible not to then apply it to garden trees 😊
    Ps. Zombie apocalypse around the 8:00 mark 🧟‍♀️🧟🧟‍♂️

    • @TonysBonsai
      @TonysBonsai  2 года назад

      Thanks Jason. I just replied to Xavier's comment, saying that I was planning on lifting these trees in the spring and planting them back in the ground over a tile or flag. Would you say that the normal repotting time of March is a good time to do this?
      Also thanks for the information about Niwaki. I'll do some research on those!

    • @TheBonsaiGarden
      @TheBonsaiGarden 2 года назад +1

      @@TonysBonsai I guess the conventional wisdom would be to wait, though in practice you could probably get away with it any time with a healthy, vigorous tree provided you left much of the root untouched.

    • @TonysBonsai
      @TonysBonsai  2 года назад

      Thanks Jason. I think I will wait for next spring just to give them the best chance.

  • @michelreyder8954
    @michelreyder8954 2 года назад +1

    Hi Tony. Very interesting post again. I allready was thinking about this, but you convinced me me plant and grow some small trees in my garden and let them grow and train them for a few years. I own a very big garden, so plenty of space for this. Also there are many seedlings growing on my land and a few interesting ones i allready potted up. There was this enormous Acer which the previous owners of our house cut and the roots developed new branches. This year in march i cut those branches and kept 3 to grow. They are more then 10 centimeters thick, the longest i kept at about 1 meter, 1 about 70 cm and 1 about 50 cm. They now gave a lot of small new branches and leave out very well. In february i want to try and dig this 3-trunk out and plant it in a very big pot and try to develop a big bonsai out of it. The digging it out will be a big challange, i know, but my best friend is willing to help me. Im very much looking forward to this. Keep on the good work, Michel.

    • @TonysBonsai
      @TonysBonsai  2 года назад +1

      Wow, that sounds like my kind of project Michael! I love acers, and that sounds like it could become an absolute beauty! Those seedlings can be well worth the effort too. get a bit of wire on them and before you know it you'll have loads of extra free material to work with!
      Garden trees can bring just as much pleasure as bonsai, and seeing as you have the space, it would be a waste not to use it!

  • @pawelm5493
    @pawelm5493 2 года назад +1

    I look forward to the next steps of your niwaki oak project 👍.
    Years ago I trimmed such size oak to form bonsay'ish or niwaki style and it went quite agreeably.
    Couple of weeks later my father-in-law made some adjustments on it to his taste finishing with something like bauble on a stick.
    Now on my own property I went back to my attempts hoping for more stable results.

    • @TonysBonsai
      @TonysBonsai  2 года назад

      Hi Pawel. That must have been a bit disheartening. Hopefully you will be able to create your vision back at your own house now. My first prune was just a very rough trim back, but the next one will be a bit more structural.

  • @joegarland4885
    @joegarland4885 2 года назад +2

    Hi Tony another great video I assume you are in your parents garden, I don’t have an oak in my collection as in the passed for some reason I haven’t got on well with them after seeing your video it maybe time to look for a good one, the oak your working in looks like being a good bonsai in time with great taper. All the best Tony.

    • @TonysBonsai
      @TonysBonsai  2 года назад

      Thanks Joe. Yes, I was round at my parents, and these oaks just sprout up every spring! I love oak trees, and although the leaves are quite big, I know that when in a pot they do go a lot smaller. Get out there next winter and collect yourself a couple!

    • @joegarland4885
      @joegarland4885 2 года назад +1

      @@TonysBonsai Hi Tony unfortunately I am too old at 80 and not strong any more so I will have to buy one when I can my days of collecting from the wild are long gone. Stay well. Joe

    • @TonysBonsai
      @TonysBonsai  2 года назад

      Fair enough Joe. You're doing well at 80 still looking after trees!

  • @robryan9841
    @robryan9841 2 года назад +1

    Nice work 👍

  • @Kjbrunzo
    @Kjbrunzo 2 года назад +2

    Are these oaks Royal/English oaks (Quercus Robur?) If so, I need to get my hands on some acorns.
    I have dozens of 1 of our native oaks here in the Midwest U.S. White Oak (Quercus Alba.) They are in their second growing season in a deep seed tray but they're only 12 cm or so, they seem to only put out 1 flush of growth a year so far...so slow. I'm liking how vigorous your look.
    This whole time I thought I was subbed and wasn't, I'll fix that.

    • @TonysBonsai
      @TonysBonsai  2 года назад +2

      Hi. yes, these are the classic English oak. If you remind me in the Autumn, I'll send you some in the post as they are everywhere!

    • @Kjbrunzo
      @Kjbrunzo 2 года назад +2

      @@TonysBonsai Wow that would be awesome. Maybe I could send you some of our oak species, though not sure how good they'd be for bonsai. In our woods we have Northern Red Oak, White Oak, and Chestnut Oak.

    • @TonysBonsai
      @TonysBonsai  2 года назад +2

      That would be brilliant. I'd love to own some American oaks!
      I think it's around September when out acorns start to drop.
      You just have to pop them in some soil and leave them outside and in the spring they should sprout!

    • @Kjbrunzo
      @Kjbrunzo 2 года назад +2

      Tony, I am looking forward to the acorn exchange in Autumn 😆. If that is still a plan, I may even add some additional native tree seeds for you to try if you'd like. I checked the RHS website to make sure none of the species are invasive to the UK.
      Also, I am making a separate channel for for my bonsai watching and such. I haven't decided a username yet, but if we go forward with the acorns, I'll contact you from my new channel/username. By the way my name is Kevin.

  • @afzalbhuiyan4956
    @afzalbhuiyan4956 4 месяца назад

    Thanks for your video. One question: What are you going to do to reduce the size of the leaves?

  • @Greeny22
    @Greeny22 2 года назад +1

    I've had to pick and cover my new accorns this week. Squirrels nicked me other ones.

    • @TonysBonsai
      @TonysBonsai  2 года назад

      I've just planted a load more today. I do ok for squirrels. Birds are much more of a problem for me.

  • @RogersGardenandBonsai
    @RogersGardenandBonsai 2 года назад +2

    My legs aren't allowed out to play - they frighten the kids!

  • @joeimbesi5361
    @joeimbesi5361 2 года назад +1

    Nice work but in nature not all trees have movement. Especially Oaks. They have a strong natural upright growth pattern.

    • @TonysBonsai
      @TonysBonsai  2 года назад +1

      You make a very good point Joe. I suppose I lust like the look of contorted trees.

  • @C1tyground5155
    @C1tyground5155 2 года назад +2

    Wow had to turn the brightness down on them legs.lol

    • @TonysBonsai
      @TonysBonsai  2 года назад +2

      🤣🤣They put the trunks of my silver birch to shame!

  • @ijcruver
    @ijcruver 2 месяца назад +1

    Tony, do you have any update on these 2 or 3 trees of Oaks in the ground?

    • @mchlbk
      @mchlbk Месяц назад

      I'm afraid the cancer returned and Tony is no longer with us. 😢

  • @lukem319
    @lukem319 2 года назад

    great video

    • @TonysBonsai
      @TonysBonsai  2 года назад

      Thank you very much!

    • @lukem319
      @lukem319 2 года назад +1

      @@TonysBonsai can you please do a video that breaks down what you have to do for bonsai's in each season. TIA

    • @TonysBonsai
      @TonysBonsai  2 года назад +1

      Brilliant idea for a video that! Might take me a while to make, but I agree that would be a cracker.

    • @lukem319
      @lukem319 2 года назад

      @@TonysBonsai maybe a video about growing bonsai in hydroponics? how to make soil? buying and selling bonsai? what to look for when yamadori hunting? how to yamadori?

  • @-meganeura
    @-meganeura 4 месяца назад

    Hi, I have an cork oak tree that I dug up from my backyard and I am a bit hesitant in cutting the main tap root , is it safe?

  • @stefaanwalleghem2746
    @stefaanwalleghem2746 2 года назад +1

    How long will you keep the wire on

    • @TonysBonsai
      @TonysBonsai  2 года назад

      I suspect that I will have to remove this wire pretty quickly. I will check to see how it is doing in 4-6 weeks.