Operation Iraqi Freedom from the News Reporter's Perspective
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The late-National Public Radio, or NPR correspondent Anne Garrels was in Baghdad before, during and after the Coalition invasion and her book Naked in Baghdad gives remarkable insight into Iraq’s descent into war. This episode is a look into the mood in Iraq’s capital before the invasion and the first days of the Iraq War as told by Garrels from the city.
Source List:
Garrels, Anne, and Vint Lawrence. Naked in Baghdad. Waterville, Me.: Wheeler Publishing , 2004.
Gordon, Michael, and Bernard E. Trainor. Cobra 2.: The Inside Story of the Invasion and Occupation of Iraq. London, UK: Atlantic Books, 2007.
Ricks, Thomas E. Fiasco: The American Military Adventure in Iraq. New York, NY: Penguin Press, 2007.
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Hopefully this channel won't give trucks to Ukraine as cannon fodder
luckily no weird replies to this yet
Damn Gerrals is a bad bitch, she’s been everywhere in the worst situations
Was, she died 2 years ago.
@@RhaegarDefenseLegends never die.
Facts
@@RhaegarDefenseDamn vro
Yea cause they actively were searching for it.
From the info that Garrels managed to gather, I find it interesting that most Iraqis, even those who opposed Saddam's regime, were against foreign intervention, in part because they were nervous of what came after.
Sadly, alot of their fears came true...
Yep. If you’re An Iraqi specifically looking out for your own interests, it’s hard to say anything significantly improved for them. Unfortunately not an uncommon theme for American foreign diplomacy
Well unless you're a Kurd, they were overall very happy with the outcome.
History repeats itself, and they know more history than us.
@@asdfzzz Hmph.
I recall reading on the news that when we first withdrew from Iraq back in 2011, the Kurds were literally the only group that didn't want the US to leave. To me, it seemed that no matter who was president, our relationship with the Kurds was always gonna end in Tears no matter what. I'm not really sure we would've had any relationships with them if we never invaded Iraq
It’s another example of how tone deaf and delusional the Bush administration’s PR messaging for the operation was, framing it as a grand humanitarian effort to free an oppressed people. They actually seemed to think that we’d be greeted by cheering crowds like 1944 Paris. Shockingly, it turns out people don’t tend to like being invaded by foreign armies, even if they’re unhappy with their own leadership. The hubris and incompetence of the people responsible for OIF was truly astonishing.
My dad a production manager, and works closely with an Iraqi dude who fled to turkey with his wife to avoid getting conscripted into the Iran-Iraq war, and the persecution faced by religious minorities, like Iraqi Christians and Shia Muslims (saddam was a Sunni, the two groups really fucking hate each other). Really smart guy, with a wonderful family. provides an incredible insight into the average Iraqis view of the world around them following the nations massive downturn.
7:02
they claimed to be a secular state. despite this, only Sunni Muslims saw any kind of success in the countries leadership, with them making up essentially the entire Baath party
Oooh just like the US
I remember that night as two CNN reporters vied back and forth for seniority.
I’ve already seen this on Patreon, but I’m comment for the algorithm
Kudos for an ACTUAL *perspective* view in these kinds of videos. Far too many videos I see are “X from the perspective of Y!” and then they just tell the same story you always hear with all of the information from all perspectives.
Another incredibly well put together video. First time I’ve ever watched something from the journalist perspective on Iraqi Freedom. Keep it up guys!
Glad you are giving representation to war reporters.
These people are incredibly selfless, courageous and their duty to the truth is commendable.
It is a shame most people try to demonize the news because of their personal political motivations when reporters like these exist and are doing good for the world by communicating often suppressed or hidden information.
People hate on news because mass media (CNN, Guardian, NBC, ABC etc.) often lie big time and spread propaganda.
We were followed by a news team in 2012, and their report about what we were doing and the overall situation in the area was a complete fabrication. I will never trust another war correspondent after seeing with my own eyes how cleverly they twisted what we said and what we did, complete with footage of us doing something completely different than what they were describing. I am sure this was an exception to the rule, but it being the only example of a major news network where I got to see both sides, _and_ I was an expert in what they were reporting on... media just looks like a massive lie no matter what I see now.
I also do not think they are very courageous. They were getting paid VERY well to do what they were doing, and I was there protecting them while they did it, making a fraction of that for staying far longer and taking actual risks. These 16 journalists are the exception. The amount of safety that is provided to the press in a US warzone is legendary. You will notice that these networks are keeping their reporters FAR behind the lines in Ukraine. We get our footage from the Soldiers, not the reporters. THAT is the measure of their courage. THAT is the measure of their selflessness. If they wanted to tell the truth, _they need to be there to see it._
Even the reporter commented how nobody was really afraid of the bombings and air strikes. Notice how very few were courageous enough to accompany line units and film actual combat.
We already had this report about American bombing. The bombings are so accurate, that it would later be an international incident when the Americans mistakenly bombed the Chinese embassy - because nobody believed they had made a mistake.
The media helped sell the Bush administration's bullshit justification for the war without question and then when the war began (eventually killing 600,000 Iraqis and worsening the stability of the region) they got milked it for ratings. The reporters on the ground during the invasion of Iraq were not there as selfless paragons of truth they were there for their careers
Brother, the news, especially American news, have directly started multiple wars and conflicts. Don’t D ride them too much.
Even wartime reporters are ideologues. Modern media is one of the worst things to happen to western nations. Spewing garbage, hate and fear without remorse.
Oh my god I have literally just been looking for this sort of thing for days and what do you know my favorite channel has posted a video on exactly that subject. You never miss.
Thank you for making this. Important information that needs to be shared
Terrific video!
Thank you for the awesome vid! I remember watching the news as a young bloke and it was the most awe inspiring footage i had ever seen at the time! I have only seen small portions of the journalists personal experiences of the events!
Seriously love your videos, man. You're doing important work and I'm so glad I found your channel!
I love these pieces that look at war from a personal perspective of someone living through it. I'd love to know if there are any accounts by Iraquis themselves.
Great video as always
It still amazes me that nobody was ever punished for that war.
Who are you going to punish and for what crime?
@@Rokaize You should really look over the history of the second Iraq wart again and the integration techniques that were used. I won't name any, but one that is undeniably not acceptable under the UN conventions use water, a cloth, and a board.
@@KnightsWithoutATable What does this have to do with the war itself?
@Rokaize
George Bush, Tony Blair and the majority of the intelligence service, government and military leadership for lying and deceiving the electorate into a criminal war. This amounts to treason and was bad as the Gulf of Tonkin incident. To say they are not to blame is to say they are not accountable and that is to say we don’t live on a democracy.
Wars of aggression and invading a UN member state on a false pretext. With the only desire being to overthrow the regime in some meaningless great power politics.
The collateral damage and civilian deaths caused by the war is the responsibility of both the jarheads who fired those shots, the officers who led them and the generals who led them. For example the destruction of Fallujah and its associated carnage. Hiring mercenaries who ran amok running civilians over in trucks and terrorising the population.
The torture and human rights abuses inflicted upon an occupied population which, again, was illegal and had no democratic basis. Which included gunning civilians down, beatings, breaking into houses and inflicting a campaign of terror upon an occupied population.
Hundreds of thousands of people died. Billions was wasted. You are twisting the facts as I can very much remember the lies that were spun in the run up to that war and the insipid excuses that were made for those crimes. It was a shameful act comparable to Vietnam and it’s a disgrace that nobody was held to account. The men who did that were vile and evil. An absolute betrayal of every supposed value they say claim to follow.
@Rokaize sounds like you need to look at the history of the war on terror and the events that led to the second Iraq war. They just so happen to all be heavily connected and involve things that should have sent multiple people to prison, but didn't because of politics.
This is amazing thank you
Great video
I really love those more historic videos, it's great work.
I very much enjoyed your video and I gave it a Thumbs Up
Fascinating video! I need to do more looking into her work!
Where did you get the figure of "sixteen western journalists remaining in the capital" from? I can assure you, as one of the number who stayed, there were far more than sixteen.
By foreign he probably means English speaking. And not counting their crews. Or something.
@@George_M_ still wrong...
This is an excellent idea
You continue to produce some of the most illuminating and well-researched content on warfare I've seen on this site.
Always good Intel. 👍
Thank you very much mister Busch
What an incredible perspective. Very sad to hear she’s passed.
Garrels was my favorite NPR reporter for years, even when I didn't really care about what she was reporting about.
thank you
Fuck cancer. Surviving through however many wars to die of cancer. That's so depressing
Good stuff
I remember watching all of this unfold when I was an 8 year old kid.
Very well done video
I enjoyed getting off work and watch the war in night vision war that looked like a video game
"Most citizens were fed up with the incompetence of the regime but did not want a foreign intervention"
SAME HERE (US)
back when journalists could actually be respected
Nice video! Sad to see people rush to war when leaders don’t truly understand the feelings of the Iraqi citizens. The picture of children learning Russian shows a different side of the life in Iraq.
Why should anyone understand the aggressor's feelings?
What a woman. She showed the kind of bravery we all should aspire to.
I guess this video won't be showing in China 😂😂😂 but seriously top notch work as always boys
1:10 Oh boy, the Chinese bots are coming...
They don't come, their internet is cut off because of this image
im here
One thing this episode skips over is that Intel Report keeps referring to "Iraqis" when talking about the attitude on the ground. The actual attitudes among the population to a US invasion varied widely. The Kurds and most of the Shia (about 75% of the pop together) were very happy, even ecstatic at the idea, either because it would free them from a brutal dictator and his secret police or because they thought they would be in charge after it was over, or (in the Kurd's case), they'd have a window to go independent. Even the technocrats (those "secular" Iraqis) thought it would be better long term under ANYBODY but Saddam.
The only people really unhappy were the Sunnis, because they benefited most from Saddam, and because their smaller population (about 15-20% of Iraq) was likely to end up under the Shia if democracy happened, a fat worse than death for your average Sunni Muslim.
To be fair, there was a vast difference between the “population” of Iraq as a whole and the “population” of Baghdad itself. Which was the perspective from which Garrels was reporting from.
@@glennacBaghdad was different only in that ALL the groups in Iraq were represented there, and the fact that all the rail, road, communication, and pipeline systems ran through it. That was what it made it such a pain in the ass to occupy/play peacekeeper in during the Iraq War years, and one reason why the country was never split into separate states ala Yugoslavia, despite some rumblings that way - "who gets Baghdad?". You couldn't answer that without even more bloodshed.
Anne Garrels did she left children, Specifically daughters, that journalist mam was really on the side of humanity.❤
Cool video. Good job.
14:00 I don't think her statement was joking, rather an astute assessment of the situation .
she must have had a very interesting and unique opinion of the world, seeing so much history like that. rest in peace
The most televised event in the 21st Century
great video, sigma
5:00 - Honestly... we really should have listened to them...
This was was great story. Thank you for bringing this to us. Unfortunately, America does not celebrate brave heroes like this. What a role model for young women.
Babe wake up new Intel Report video
Jeez, that ad read at the end was rather abrupt
the add is funny
This made me appreciate the anime Flag more.
The U.S. conducted media bootcamps should ground operations become necessary. The purpose was to give them basic survival skills should ground operations require media embedding. Four events were planned with slots for 60 journalists each. There were two no-shows for iteration 1, so planners aggressively had back-ups they could call for iterations 2-4. Result: 238 reporters got to assess their physical readiness and learn how to interact effectively with U.S. ground forces. I was iteration #2 at Fort Benning (now Moore), Georgia in December 2002.
In Turkish we say "the one who one arrives will make you yearn for the one who departed" every single one of those iraqi were right to fear what could and history has vindicated them. The American intervention in Iraq is one of the worst acts of us foreign policy that has ever happened.
15:30 wow that's a very grim segway. Ever heard of the perils of the pursuit of functional intelligence? This is just krass.
"and then she died, sad....but these deals will cheer you right up!"
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imagine not using SponsorBlock--you don't gotta see ads, YTers still get that dough and it dupes the corpos into thinking this kinda advertising is unironically, the best.
Blatant misquote
15:21
it made me pause the video and go "huhh?" they really dropped the ball with that one unfortunately
it's called paraphrasing you dummy@@niixodus
As an Iraqi who lived through the kuwait invasion all the way to late 2004, I find her book mostly out of touch and single sided. The people she "interviewed" were mostly sunnis in Baghdad, who benefited from the regime.
The middle class was decimated by the Iran war and the sanctions following the kuwait invasion. We were lucky enough to be of the few remaining middle class, but that doesn't change the reality of most people actually hating Saddam and the regime, and welcoming anything and any change, including a foreign invasion.
If you look back, the first few months after the invasion and the fall of the regime were quite peaceful. Security started to deteriorate and things started to go south 3 months later, when the US army and leadership had no plans for how to govern and run the country. It didn't help at all when Bramer dissolved the army, police, etc and barred members of those organizations from holding any position, while canceling their retirement entitlements. That's when shit really hit the fan. Literally millions of households were left without income, with no recourse to get an income, and had their social security rights stripped from them. Most of those people did nothing wrong. By the time that wrong was righted, it was too late.
I could go on, but I think my point is already clear. I'm a big fan of the operations room and the intel report, and really enjoy the videos covering the gulf wars, but this one is very much off the mark.
Orientalism goes hard…
I like her diary entry about Iraq needing a dictator. As part of the build up, and invasion, we came to the same conclusion. We took and policed Ramadi for our year and were constantly dealing with Iraqi on Iraqi violence between rival clans and religious sects and you see what happened after we left. We left them worse off.
Just a pedantic little remark, she was quoting an Iraqi and not stating herself that Iraq needs a dictator.
It doesn't, anymore than Russia does. The problem is that so many in both countries BELIEVE they do, and not a few international decision makers.
Perhaps Iraq needs it, but the non-titular peoples and religions of Iraq and its small neighbors do not need.
@@user-ou9qd9no5n that’s a good way to put it. I never meant to imply that a dictator was a good thing, just that there was so much violence amongst differing groups that’s it’s difficult to lead all of them using Western Democracy.
Good stuff, but I'm sorry, I need animated people dots fading to flags if I'm ever going to understand how the events unfold
i was busy being a baby at this time all in all life was good
I have worked and are working with many people from Irak, mainly Assyrians most of them who lived under Saddams rule say the same thing that it was better in Irak at that time than it is today with religious extremist everywhere.
Oh. Nice freedom....
Imagine if more people in the US got this kind of reporting directly right before the war began. I seriously think it could have made the Bush Administration think twice about invading Iraq. Regular Iraqi citizens knew the potential dangers of destabilizing the region before we even thought about Daesh or the insurgency.
My God. The number of cigarettes that woman must have smoked...
Back when journalists were actually journalists
5:48 A more apt quote yo may never find. ISIS rose from the ashes of Saddam Hussein, and to say, "Better The Devil You Know" is just as true.
No, it wouldn't have been better to leave Saddam in power just because his loyalists would tear the country apart if he was ousted.
oh wow the iraqi people already predicted what would happen to their country and knew the consequences of US flexing its muscle..
Because...they did it to themselves. Nobody made them start a civil war after an invasion to remove a dictator.
Garrels was a real and only girlboss of the 21st century
5:09 Borat in Iraq
"If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail". If all you are is a warmonger every weaker country looks like a threat.
Weird that something acknowledged as weaker would be considered a serious threat
Unimaginably bad ass, what a woman!
you should do one on Terry Lloyd he was killed by the Americans
10:50 "we will defeat the americans!" "also can you please take my son to america so he survives?"
The Iraqis had to know what happened in Iran when the corrupt Shah was usurped by fundamentalists. Remember, a bad situation can always get worse.
great ad read lmao
ok
I have some respect for “true” war correspondents, that are not following an agenda or network approved messeging such as is common with most Media like CNN etc
Or more recently some of the “war correspondents” that accompanied Hamas on October 7th terrorist attacks/slaughters that were actually part of Hamas
Now let’s not confuse our language here, as is so painfully bloody common. Any sentient creature with its own will has an agenda, and desires of their own.
Now if you mean nefarious intentions just say those words explicitly
@@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat A serious news reporter should have the “desires” and “agenda” of reporting the news and the actual facts and not injecting his/her (2 choices there) biases into the reporting, including by omission. A rare thing these days.
This woman was a bad ass. What a waste of so much life for 1 man's ego.
Amazing woman
" brought to you by the courtesy of the red, white and blue!" - American patriot Toby Keith
pretty sure that reporter died from debris from aa fire
Don’t sort by new, guys. Biggest mistake of my life.
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Operation Freedom of Oil and Gas
they are propagandist and they knew it
Will have been so hard to mention that in that shelling a spaniard camera man and a serbian, if I recall correctly, were killed? (Miguel Ángel Blanco) sorry that was not his name I was confused, M.A. Blanco was a victim of ETA if memory serves The reporter killed by an Abrams tank who shot the hotel where all the international press was staying, and had been warned not to engaged. To this day his family screams for justice while the commander and the gunner sit tight in the US.
Why isn't there a movie about her. She's no Mary Sue and can tell one hell of a unbiased story
We were useful idiots for the Taliban during the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan. Life was probably better in the Soviet controlled enclaves than in the Taliban controlled areas then too. What's that? Diversity not a strength? I'm shocked. Shocked I tell you. When we got into Basra(h), I was approached by a woman in jeans and a v neck T shirt (no hijab) coming to talk to me. As I drove around I saw women in normal dresses (just below the knee) crossing the street again no hijab. That all changed within a couple of weeks and the back cover all outfits and hijabs were all the women wore.
The Taliban didn't really exist until after the Soviets pulled out. They were generated by the Soviet invasion, in that they were Afghan refugees ushered into Wahhabist schools in Pakistan to get indoctrinated. The mujahedeen that actually fought the Soviets were almost an entirely separate force, shoved aside by the Taliban when they took power in 1994 since US support had ceased when the Soviets left, until they became allies again when the US invaded in 2001.
And of course, Basra is in Iraq and has F all to do with the Taliban.
You speak too slow you should talk about 8% faster.
Settings - playback speed
He could've stayed in power if he gave up his nuclear and biological weapons.
Many reports have come out since then that have proven there was absolutely no evidence of them having nuclear or biological weapons. But believe what you want so you don’t have to feel any bad feelings
We’re not living in 2004 anymore bro, everyone knows he didn’t have WMDs.
@@matthewjones39 Yes he did. The US government said he did. What other proof do you need.
@@Cheka__ I don’t understand how I missed the fact that you were trolling.
@@matthewjones39 In your defense, it's difficult to tell these days when you consider how uninformed the average person is.
The US Genocide of 1.2 million Iraqis over oil will never be forgotten and will never be forgiven by the world.
Okay Sally! Bet you blame Trump also?
As soon as the narrator said “invade Iran and depose its leader Saddam Hussein” I’m out.
I have enjoyed every video on this channel until now. I could literally care less about the perspective of so-called "journalists" about literally any subject. Especially war. I have no respect for the profession, and even less respect for the people in it. But that's just me.
You should spend less time being propagandized by hyper partisan bad actors on the internet. Maybe give being a normie who occasionally watches the news a try. I know, I know the absolute horror of watching lamestream propaganda. Trust me, it's much better for your mental health and blood pressure than the facebook and / or telegram groups that are your current source of information (ragebait and agitation propaganda).
How would you then know about these wars if there were no journalists?
The...ones who often are the ones providing reports that inform these videos, at least indirectly?
Why are you quoting a female? 😕
What the fuck does that even mean
Oh because a quotation is used to directly refer to statements previously made, in this case by her. I am glad to have cleared up your confusion.
yikes this was a pretty heartless and weird video
This channel is in decline.
Why?
Relax my boy 😂
That bio is wild