It seems in that universe, power and wealth is demonstrated through grandiose sobriety. No flourish or complex forms, just a gigantic, reflective spheroid.
@@fathertedczynski oh hell naw, you've fallen to the dark side, the solar glider is on fleek. Padme horrendous chromed out Paddy wagon should have been sold so she could have bought Shmi from Watto and saved the whole galaxy a headache. Even that dude from the Solo movie with his skyscraper/yacht combo ship put her buggy to shame.
Like Goddamn, that score has so much power and intimidation in it, all while perfectly encapsulating the entire idea of sci-fi with those wailing synths. This track truly does embody the arrival of a galactic Emperor descending to bring down the law. It’s incredible. Zimmer’s fingers bleed gold on music sheets, it’s ridiculous.
This is the true showoff of wealth and power. Not through posh clothing, but through a giant space sphere with a tent as big as the ship itself. Love how Shaddam the 4th also wears ordinary clothing. Just like billionaires of our world.
To be fair, we don't know that... I mean, his garment can be made from some super expensive material - maybe his "ordinary" clothes are the Dune universe equivalent of someone wearing silk clothing decorated with gold and diamonds.
@@toncek9981In fairness those "normal clothes" billionaires wear are actually like $300 for a T-shirt/hat/ pair of shorts etc cause of the quality of the materials and the way they're perfectly tailored to the person when they buy them.
@@toncek9981I mean that’s not unlike our real world billionaires either - Mark Zuckerberg wears basic-looking grey T-shirts that cost hundreds of dollars a piece for example.
Underrated detail, but at 0:32 Stilgar repeats a motion that Paul did earlier to show the narrow path through. Shows how he is copying mannerisms from his prophet and is how much of a believer he is.
@@avae5343 I haven't read the books (plan to after Villeneuve does Messiah). I will say I think that Bardem is very convincing in portraying stilgar as a fanatic.
@@barker505 He’s not at all like he is in the film, he’s much more sophisticated and intelligent. He and Paul essentially manipulated the Fremen into abandoning their ways to become emperor and governor of Arrakis respectively. The Baron and Fayd also aren’t deranged. They’re ruthless but intelligent.
I'm pretty certain he was checking the wind from the approaching storm rather than re-enacting a gesture Paul made while talking to lady jesica IN A DREAM... But hey, maybe stillgar was there too and watched xD
@@avae5343 While the changes they made to Stilgar and Chani are a bummer I do think they were necessary to properly communicate the theme of the story especially since it went over the heads of many book readers until Messiah came out. I wont forgive them removing my boi Hawat though.
It kinda is he brought thousands of his elite men. As emperor he must be grandiose to impose fear and reverence among his subjects. That's the Corrino led imperium
Playing it at scale - the very opening frame presents the Emperor's dropship as if it were a planet, before we see it come more into frame and it's true nature is revealed. But the scale still holds.
"... just to br defeated by a prophet guy and his wacky followers." You left out the posse of army munching giant sandworms and the salvo of nuclear missiles.
This movie has a lower budget than most MCU movies. Im not a marvel hater, but this is proof that Hollywood has been messing with us when it comes to the budget/visual quality of most of its productions over the last... 6 years? Or more?
So if the Harkonnen became richer than the emperor in the first movie and according to the books Tuffir Hwatt calculations were that Harkonnen could not bring a large force to Arrakis without becoming bankrupt so this means the Spacing Guild favored the emperor in some way so he could bring such a large force I guess
If I remember correctly, in the book the SG transports the Emperor's and the Great Houses' forces for free to Arrakis, becaus Paul challenged them all at once. But while the armys of the Great Houses remained in space, only the Emperor landed with the Sardaukar, the Bene Gesserit Reverend Mother and some navigators, which Paul directly threatens when confronting Shaddam.
@@sinusspass1998 Yes. in the book, Paul, after drinking the water of life, knows that the emperor and the Great Houses are arriving on Arrakis to deal with the threat of Muad'dib and the damage he is causing to the spice. but in a somewhat senseless way perhaps, only the emperor and his sardaukar land on Arrakis. it must be said that The Guild, after Paul establishes himself as Kwisatz Haderach, has a blind spot in the foresight of the Navigators. For this reason, they don't let all the ships off. they know there is a threat to the spice. the film takes a more narratively coherent direction perhaps, regarding the choices of the opponents. Anyway, well done to Villenueve for having created the same final scenario, but with different narrative mechanics
Maybe that's why they send so few ships and the sphere can carry so much it's probably to save solari on transport from the guild. Although the imperial house and the guild probably have different deals, compared to other great houses. Gaius and shaddam could probably also leverage other forms of political power that the harkonnens can't, with regards to future deals. Maybe it's not supposed to be a war transport(guild charge extra for war) but official imperial business, the first thing they do is almost have a trial of the Baron with other nobles present.
When I saw this part I had a feeling I'd seen a similar ship scene before. Put a gigantic robot happy face on it and you have the happy face ship from the animated move Heavy Metal.
The opening shot of the Emperor's ship reflecting Arrakis, being mistaken for Arrakis, reflects also an image in the book: a globe of Arrakis in the Baron Harkonnen's office, which his hand reaches out to stroke in the darkness of the room. An image not used in any film until this moment.
The Harkonnens and the Atreides are the victims in the Spacing Guild's plan. Even the Emperor is but a puppet in this matter. That's why Paul had to threaten to destroy all spice, the worms and all, ricking billions dying due to the end of space travel, to get the Emperor there. The Spacing Guild sent representatives, and merely stood by, watching things play out. They too can see the future, it's how they navigate safely. It's why they wanted Paul dead.
I can only imagine deafening levels of Weapon Of Choice by Fatboy Slim spilling across the valleys and mountains of Arrakis as it enters far enough into the the atmosphere for sound to take hold.
Honestly, in the movie theater, I could never understand what Baron Vladimir Harkonnen was saying when he uttered, "Tell them that Arrakis is under Sardaukar attack." I was like, "What kind of attack?" Lol. The accent threw me for a loop. But this whole scene was epic. The music, the spaceship, the environment. Truly breath-taking.
It's criminal that some of y'all still harp on the Spacing Guild so much... esp. since it's a limited run time screenplay, and esp. since we don't actually meet a Guild Navigator until Dune Messiah (Part 3)...the Guild is completely out in the background and out in space throughout the first novel
Such a great intro. And then a million of the greatest warriors in the galaxy die like a bitch in 30 seconds and all is resolved instantly. What a huge disappointment.
I loved both movies, and they hyped up his army like the greatest ever, yet they put up 0 fight. If this was a tiny section of their army, then its still acceptable. But to have the entire army deployed and destroyed is something you will rarely see in real life. A great army isn't just about fighting, they are able to predict, forecast, have alternate strategies etc. The fights in this movie seemed extremely one-sided, biased to the protagonists. I wish the final battle were much different, I hope it is in the book which Im gonna read
@@arishemthejudge6780 Great armies have been eliminated faster than this. Surrender spreads like a plague. Anyways this is how its written in the book. Dune was wound up like a bomb ready to blow for hundreds of years. They were waiting with surreal levels of patience. The final battle is supposed to be anti-climatic.
Deleting the Guild was SO stupid. It was the Navigators that sounded the alarm about Paul, it was the Guild that brought the Emperor, it was the Guild that shipped the titanic massed galactic fleet into orbit to stop Paul... but they were afraid, they prevented the fleet from glassing Arrakis from orbit to protect the Worms and forced the Emperor to land with a conventional army and thus into Paul's trap. Paul then trapped the Guild, threatening to use the Water of Death to kill all Worms forever. With the almighty Guild now hostage, Paul forced them too abandon the Emperor, to ship the thousands of warships out of Arrakis orbit, and trapped the greater and lesser powers of the universe in their home systems to wait helplessly to be picked off one by one by Guild-shuttled Fremen fanatics...
A friend of mine commented how the Mothership resembled an unfertilized egg, and the dozen Sandworms charging towards its general location represented human sperm rushing to fertilize it.
@@janmajer4662 Arrakeep has the shield wall of mountains, and the shields that protect the keep itself, energy shields in that case. These are seen in Dune 1984, but not to my knowledge in this Dune version.
@@stevetheduck1425 Yeah they were shown in the first movie. When they first fly to Arrakeen, Thufir says "Shield wall. Protects the city from the weather, and the worms" and then the devices are shown laying in sand.
It unfolds from the spaceship. Almost like an awning rolling out from an RV, just a super futuristic one. It's a shame we dont get to see it deploy, since they probably worked out exactly how it would work during the design phase.
It's the Emperors War Tent. It deploys out of the bottom of the ship through the doors. You can also see wires going from the ship to the tent, presumably a hoist mechanism or an elevator system.
What the harkonnens could’ve done to win this battle, is to see the worm signs and alert nearby artillery ships. In this scene we only see house Corrino troops on the compound, the Harkonnen pill ships that Feyd used to blow up mountains are no where to be seen. So when Paul finally fought his way to the compound’s throne room to meet Feyd and Shaddam, Harkonnen pill ships shows up, blow a hole on the ceiling, airlifts the Harkonnens to safety and shoot up the whole place. Pill ships can be shielded up since worms can’t reach it, and any attempts at lasering the shield would lead to the entire compound, enemy or foe be blown up. So fremen won’t do that. The Storm is not a problem for a ship, because we literally see humans fighting inside the storm.
Problem is that Paul probably would’ve had a counter plan to deal with that. The issue is that by this point he was prescient and that there was almost NO one who could challenge him at this point. The only thing here that posed a real threat to Paul was Count Fenring.
It escapes you that part of Paul's plan is to use the great sandstorm to eliminate all of the airborne threat. even Feyd's old-school ships would have been useless. not to mention that Paul is prescient at this point
1:03 what in the heck is going on with Feyd's lips here? It looks like they couldn't get Austin Butler for the scene so they made a CGI version of him, but couldn't get the lips working before shooting. His mouth awkwardly hangs open while he talks.
Is the shot of the ships flying overhead at 0:51 a nod to the original Star Wars trilogy? I feel like there was a very similar shot in one of those movies, but can't quite remember where it was.
@@forrestpenrod2294 I don't think it's the ship type that rings a bell for me, moreso just the shot of multiple ships flying overhead and then into the distance. Maybe there's a shot like that with ships flying towards the Death Star
@@geikogecko You're thinking of the opening scene of Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones. I loved how that scene was shot. I can see how the Emperor ship's arrival in Dune Part 2 are similar.
@@MindHunger the original what? The original movie? It was campy and over-dramatic, even the director of that movie resents it. The books were not uplifting
@@MindHunger not at all. You can easily search it up, Lynch hates his own version of Dune so much that he is too ashamed to watch the new adaptions, because he was not able to make his movie the way he wanted to due to restrictions.
Anyone else notice when the spaceball was hovering over the palace that they forgot to turn off the reentry effect? At first I dismissed it as wind blown sand against the shields, but the more I looked at it the less it looked that way, especially because of the tail it made...
What's cool is that the Fremen practice all the right things, operational security, keeping eyes on target and keeping the Fremen hidden. Also, Paul delivers a short to the point plan and commanders' intent all into one paragraph. The end state of the operation is I need the emperor alive. His plan also includes seizing Arakeen, which has the space port and the residence.
@pshangkuan1 commanded at company, battalion and brigade level with XO and three time I have been there done that, got the t shirt and got my retirement pay
Why in the world would the ship get hot as it passes through the atmosphere? It's got a suspension field and can drop slowly. It's not like it's falling. And it's not air braking either. This looks like a bad error.
If I'm not wrong if you don't go fast enough you'll just bounce off of the atmosphere, and I guess there was nothing in Dune that changed that or had a reason to change that from how it is in real life
Since the ship has a shield there's no reason to descend slowly. They probably wanted to get their army deployed quickly without giving the Fremen more time to react.
Paul Muad'ib challenged him with a letter sealed by the Atreides ring. the Emperor cannot risk Paul revealing to the Great Houses the participation of house Corrino against the elimination of the Atreides
@@rickdeckard1honestly that's the thing that has been bugging me eversince. The Emperor shows up unannounced on Arrakis, surprising the Baron as he sends a distress call to the other houses believing the Emperor is here to destroy him. So later on when the Great Houses arrive why would they reject Paul? I thought they showed up to form an alliance against the Emperor?
@@casper2694 Great houses reject Paul because the balance between the houses totally collapse..Paul as emperor + total control over Arrakis make him too strong..with spice, he can also easily control Spacing guild make him can destroy any other houses without costly too much
Ok but, like, that was the point that was bothering me - why did the emperor show up himself to Arrakis? Just bc some dude in the desert is talking smack? Couldnt he just send someone to deal with it? Like he has a galaxy to run. And then - why is Irulan there too? She doesn't have more things going on in her life?
Cos if word gets out Paul lived and he tells the truth the houses will turn on the emperor anyway. Haven’t you been paying attention? For the love of god
Because Paul could have also told the great houses that The Emperor supported the destruction of one of them If that happened the ENTIRE Landsdrad would have turned against house Corrino And such war would probably make Paul Jihad look like childplay
It was so stupid to land on the sand, like, in 10k years of spice production not ONE person from the imperium documented the fremen could ride the sandworms like giant death vacuums?
@@mobulis I wasn't replying to you. If I was, there would be a handle ("@mobulis") in my comment. Much like the handle in your own erroneous comment. In other words, I was agreeing with you.
Gurney was such a letdown in the movies after reading the books. On the page he was a musician, had a wry wit, and looked like a lephrechaun sent through a meat grinder. Instead of that colorful person we get generic soldier guy....
Why does the ship of the Emperor enters Arrakis' atmosphere like a Space Shuttles reentry? The Guild ships do not need a planetary orbit with it's high velocities, and the Emperors ship could glide slowly and gracefully down with the anti-grav techology in the Herberts Dune universe. Not everything that looks dramatic is sensible ...
Why they decided they need to change the pronunciation of so many names/words is beyond me. You only have to listen to interviews with the author himself to know its "Har-KO-nin", not "Harkinin", and that its "Fed-A-Keen" not "Fed-EYEkin".
After the BS changes in the first movie, I decided to just wait for this to go to video. Having seen some of these idiotic, story-breaking 'I'm smarter than Frank Herbert' changes I'm not even going to watch it on video. Dune '84, for it's problems, was better.
You mean the one where there's out loud thoughts of all the characters just exposition dumping the entire movie? How is that better then showing the story through visuals.
That or she knows that the end of this plan involved Paul officially marrying Irulan, which means either she gets cucked by Nerd Girl or Vice Versa, and that does not sit well with her.
Развлечения
"My lord, how do we prevent uprising of the other houses against your rule?"
The emperor: "BALL"
Love how they also refused, in spite of their overlords entire army getting obliterated by some outsider prophet and his nomadic followers
@@eges72 its hard to be emperor!
"Fuck it, we ball"
The emperor: We will roll over every rebellion, uprising, revolution. My rule will roll on until the end of time.
We Ballin
It seems in that universe, power and wealth is demonstrated through grandiose sobriety. No flourish or complex forms, just a gigantic, reflective spheroid.
The Power of House Corrino resides in Sardaukar's blades. "He brought his whole army".
Things were a lot more ostentatious looking in the books. Lots of regal uniforms and decoration - the Sardaukar looked like landsknecht
You really put my thoughts to words.
I wish they'd done more with the opposing uniform styles between factions. As it is the battles look like Grey Team vs Darker Grey Team
The Emperor just wanted to show he has the biggest ball(s).
Damn, I thought Count Dooku had the most pimped out spaceship in all of science fiction. Corrino flexing hard
It's all Shaddam can do, as He and the rest of the Imperium are trapped in a most delicate web spun by the Bene Gesserit.
Just a big shiny sphere.
It's been done before.
@@MrNintoku not as well
Dooku doesn't even have the most pimped ship in Star Wars 😂 padmé's full chrome Royal Starship gotta beat dooku's for me
@@fathertedczynski oh hell naw, you've fallen to the dark side, the solar glider is on fleek. Padme horrendous chromed out Paddy wagon should have been sold so she could have bought Shmi from Watto and saved the whole galaxy a headache.
Even that dude from the Solo movie with his skyscraper/yacht combo ship put her buggy to shame.
0:39 Hans Zimmer cooked
He really did
As usual
He never misses.
I prefer the sound when the ball enters the stratosphere. Sounds like a Saturn V. 😈
Like Goddamn, that score has so much power and intimidation in it, all while perfectly encapsulating the entire idea of sci-fi with those wailing synths. This track truly does embody the arrival of a galactic Emperor descending to bring down the law. It’s incredible. Zimmer’s fingers bleed gold on music sheets, it’s ridiculous.
Shaggy: "Zoiks Scoob! We're like, totally trapped in the Ghost's Haunted Mansion!"
Scooby-Doo: 1:09
Gee thanks, I like not being able to unhear Scoody-Doo when Feyd talks.
@@andrewpellman6605 Now you know my pain 🤣
His dumb Scooby accent ruined every scene he's in 😂
Lmao
This is the true showoff of wealth and power. Not through posh clothing, but through a giant space sphere with a tent as big as the ship itself. Love how Shaddam the 4th also wears ordinary clothing. Just like billionaires of our world.
To be fair, we don't know that... I mean, his garment can be made from some super expensive material - maybe his "ordinary" clothes are the Dune universe equivalent of someone wearing silk clothing decorated with gold and diamonds.
@@toncek9981In fairness those "normal clothes" billionaires wear are actually like $300 for a T-shirt/hat/ pair of shorts etc cause of the quality of the materials and the way they're perfectly tailored to the person when they buy them.
@@toncek9981I mean that’s not unlike our real world billionaires either - Mark Zuckerberg wears basic-looking grey T-shirts that cost hundreds of dollars a piece for example.
The cut and drape will be tailored, the material will be practical. He doesn’t use expensive materials to show off
On the book the Emperor favorite garment was a Sardaukar uniform, admitedely it wont had worked so well on the movie.
Underrated detail, but at 0:32 Stilgar repeats a motion that Paul did earlier to show the narrow path through. Shows how he is copying mannerisms from his prophet and is how much of a believer he is.
Book Stilgar is better, he’s less of a religious fanatic and more of a politician.
@@avae5343 I haven't read the books (plan to after Villeneuve does Messiah). I will say I think that Bardem is very convincing in portraying stilgar as a fanatic.
@@barker505 He’s not at all like he is in the film, he’s much more sophisticated and intelligent. He and Paul essentially manipulated the Fremen into abandoning their ways to become emperor and governor of Arrakis respectively. The Baron and Fayd also aren’t deranged. They’re ruthless but intelligent.
I'm pretty certain he was checking the wind from the approaching storm rather than re-enacting a gesture Paul made while talking to lady jesica IN A DREAM... But hey, maybe stillgar was there too and watched xD
@@avae5343 While the changes they made to Stilgar and Chani are a bummer I do think they were necessary to properly communicate the theme of the story especially since it went over the heads of many book readers until Messiah came out.
I wont forgive them removing my boi Hawat though.
The Emperor's camp looks like a little city down there.
It kinda is he brought thousands of his elite men. As emperor he must be grandiose to impose fear and reverence among his subjects. That's the Corrino led imperium
I love that this army is the baddest army in the universe up to this point. The Emperor brought ALL OF THEM to one place. And it didn’t matter at all
Tbf they just landed. Probably wasnt even expecting an attack just righ after they all arrived.
In the book he did not bring all of them
@@epicchocolate1866 true. But it probably wouldn’t have helped even if he had .
Oh come on guys! You’re telling me a bunch of desert rats would be a match for the feared and dreaded Sardaukar!? Come on!!!
@@costco_pizzadesert rats... that fight like sand ninjas, riding giant worms, equipped with nuclear missiles
Behold! The Imperial Disco Ball.
Cowbell?
Cause he is on the spice ya know
Playing it at scale - the very opening frame presents the Emperor's dropship as if it were a planet, before we see it come more into frame and it's true nature is revealed. But the scale still holds.
One of the few times we see actual space flight in these movies.
Mirror sphere goes wooooooosh, and then the emperor arrives, just to be defeated by a prophet guy and his wacky followers
Wacky followers my ahh. They're superior to Sardaukar therefore the strongest soldiers available in the whole known universe.
That's such a smart thing to say like damn right
@@gudhaxer41343 you mean they wacked the Sadaukars into oblivion
"... just to br defeated by a prophet guy and his wacky followers."
You left out the posse of army munching giant sandworms and the salvo of nuclear missiles.
Yes why would the emperor purposefully put himself in danger by coming to Arrakis.
Top tier sound design
1:10 when my friend Dewey is in trouble but I'm not sure what for so I ask for clarification
lmao
That is the dumbest joke ever 😂
When you turn on the TV halfway through Malcolm in the Middle:
When you turn on the TV halfway through Malcolm in the Middle:
This scene is so out of this world it feels like a deleted scene from Evangelion or Akira
Watching the reflection of the mountains roll beneath the sphere ship was the most breathtaking visual effect I have ever seen.
That's right. Also the ship entering atmosphere with the music and reflection of Arrakis on it 👌
Emperor arriving in style in his giant Bluetooth speaker
This movie has a lower budget than most MCU movies. Im not a marvel hater, but this is proof that Hollywood has been messing with us when it comes to the budget/visual quality of most of its productions over the last... 6 years? Or more?
Villeneuve did not abuse the use of CGI like Marvel does, filming on location, using pratical effects, and hidding poor CGI with a lot of dust.
So if the Harkonnen became richer than the emperor in the first movie and according to the books Tuffir Hwatt calculations were that Harkonnen could not bring a large force to Arrakis without becoming bankrupt so this means the Spacing Guild favored the emperor in some way so he could bring such a large force I guess
the Guild favors anyone with enough spice to pay them. It is an apparently "neutral" political body
If I remember correctly, in the book the SG transports the Emperor's and the Great Houses' forces for free to Arrakis, becaus Paul challenged them all at once. But while the armys of the Great Houses remained in space, only the Emperor landed with the Sardaukar, the Bene Gesserit Reverend Mother and some navigators, which Paul directly threatens when confronting Shaddam.
@@sinusspass1998 Yes. in the book, Paul, after drinking the water of life, knows that the emperor and the Great Houses are arriving on Arrakis to deal with the threat of Muad'dib and the damage he is causing to the spice. but in a somewhat senseless way perhaps, only the emperor and his sardaukar land on Arrakis. it must be said that The Guild, after Paul establishes himself as Kwisatz Haderach, has a blind spot in the foresight of the Navigators. For this reason, they don't let all the ships off. they know there is a threat to the spice. the film takes a more narratively coherent direction perhaps, regarding the choices of the opponents. Anyway, well done to Villenueve for having created the same final scenario, but with different narrative mechanics
Maybe that's why they send so few ships and the sphere can carry so much it's probably to save solari on transport from the guild. Although the imperial house and the guild probably have different deals, compared to other great houses. Gaius and shaddam could probably also leverage other forms of political power that the harkonnens can't, with regards to future deals. Maybe it's not supposed to be a war transport(guild charge extra for war) but official imperial business, the first thing they do is almost have a trial of the Baron with other nobles present.
The spacing guilt is at the service of the emperor, yes
That's one hell of a weapon of choice.
MASSIVELY underrated comment
**Starts dancing / flying in the desert.*
When I saw this part I had a feeling I'd seen a similar ship scene before. Put a gigantic robot happy face on it and you have the happy face ship from the animated move Heavy Metal.
1:10 Scooby-Doo when he wants to know what to do.
Theres alwys a rich kid with a chromed out car
The opening shot of the Emperor's ship reflecting Arrakis, being mistaken for Arrakis, reflects also an image in the book: a globe of Arrakis in the Baron Harkonnen's office, which his hand reaches out to stroke in the darkness of the room. An image not used in any film until this moment.
-What do we do?
-Play the victim card.
The Harkonnens and the Atreides are the victims in the Spacing Guild's plan. Even the Emperor is but a puppet in this matter.
That's why Paul had to threaten to destroy all spice, the worms and all, ricking billions dying due to the end of space travel, to get the Emperor there.
The Spacing Guild sent representatives, and merely stood by, watching things play out.
They too can see the future, it's how they navigate safely.
It's why they wanted Paul dead.
In fairness, I don't recall that many people respect the emperor? Like he either will doom us/himself, they just need an excuse.
A WILD EMPEROR APPEARS ... USE THE POKEBALL
"Let's show up in a giant christmas ornament- that'll scare em"
I like how he calls his own army "Fundamentalist Troops". So yeah, my army of Jesus Freaks will attack from the North.
Lol
So 4th Infantry from the south and my terrorist group from the north, make sense?
Lmao that line always stood out
“Yea guys dw I’ll come in from the north with my fanatic ninjas and clean up shop”
“ What is he doing here !? “
“ He doesn’t like your drumming. “
It's a Pokeball.
Especially the first shot looks like a Pokeball.
Emperor, I choose you!
Use Sardaukar!
It's not very effective.
0:08 Join the Helldivers
Sony doesn’t want me to
House Corrino diving for democracy!
No mention of Carthag or the other cities of Dune.
The eye of Sauron rendered as a mirror spaceship makes landing
0:02 Biggest Pokeball ever!
It’s a damn pokeball. So the emperor is a Pokémon?
I can only imagine deafening levels of Weapon Of Choice by Fatboy Slim spilling across the valleys and mountains of Arrakis as it enters far enough into the the atmosphere for sound to take hold.
Send sandwiches to the great houses....no I mean messages.
🤣
Honestly, in the movie theater, I could never understand what Baron Vladimir Harkonnen was saying when he uttered, "Tell them that Arrakis is under Sardaukar attack." I was like, "What kind of attack?" Lol. The accent threw me for a loop. But this whole scene was epic. The music, the spaceship, the environment. Truly breath-taking.
The Emperor's ship looks like a super sample from Helldivers 2. I want to collect it!
It's criminal that Villneuve left out the Spacing Guild.
Representatives of the Guild appear in Dune Part 1.
There will be a Guild navigator in the third movie, if Villeneuve stay true to the books.
It's criminal that some of y'all still harp on the Spacing Guild so much... esp. since it's a limited run time screenplay, and esp. since we don't actually meet a Guild Navigator until Dune Messiah (Part 3)...the Guild is completely out in the background and out in space throughout the first novel
The guUuiiiiiild!
The emperor should have heeded his minions to go back up into space and nuke the Fremen from orbit.
Such a great intro. And then a million of the greatest warriors in the galaxy die like a bitch in 30 seconds and all is resolved instantly. What a huge disappointment.
It’s called combined arms you tween
I loved both movies, and they hyped up his army like the greatest ever, yet they put up 0 fight. If this was a tiny section of their army, then its still acceptable. But to have the entire army deployed and destroyed is something you will rarely see in real life. A great army isn't just about fighting, they are able to predict, forecast, have alternate strategies etc. The fights in this movie seemed extremely one-sided, biased to the protagonists. I wish the final battle were much different, I hope it is in the book which Im gonna read
@@arishemthejudge6780 Great armies have been eliminated faster than this. Surrender spreads like a plague. Anyways this is how its written in the book. Dune was wound up like a bomb ready to blow for hundreds of years. They were waiting with surreal levels of patience. The final battle is supposed to be anti-climatic.
They aren't the greatest warriors in the galaxy, that's the point...
The emperors ship has RTX cranked all the way up!
the speed of a ship that large is almost questionable, but makes it more menacing
I guess the Sardaukar were in such a rush they forgot to pack the lasguns. 😉😉
Deleting the Guild was SO stupid. It was the Navigators that sounded the alarm about Paul, it was the Guild that brought the Emperor, it was the Guild that shipped the titanic massed galactic fleet into orbit to stop Paul... but they were afraid, they prevented the fleet from glassing Arrakis from orbit to protect the Worms and forced the Emperor to land with a conventional army and thus into Paul's trap. Paul then trapped the Guild, threatening to use the Water of Death to kill all Worms forever. With the almighty Guild now hostage, Paul forced them too abandon the Emperor, to ship the thousands of warships out of Arrakis orbit, and trapped the greater and lesser powers of the universe in their home systems to wait helplessly to be picked off one by one by Guild-shuttled Fremen fanatics...
Love how baron keep his panic
A friend of mine commented how the Mothership resembled an unfertilized egg, and the dozen Sandworms charging towards its general location represented human sperm rushing to fertilize it.
Emperor doesn't know what storm is, if he is landing near it
The shield Wall usually blocks the storms
But Paul nuked It
@@Ale-dd3ek I thought the storm disrupts the function of shield wall? I think you mean that the mountains stop the storm.
@@janmajer4662 Arrakeep has the shield wall of mountains, and the shields that protect the keep itself, energy shields in that case. These are seen in Dune 1984, but not to my knowledge in this Dune version.
@@stevetheduck1425 Yeah they were shown in the first movie. When they first fly to Arrakeen, Thufir says "Shield wall. Protects the city from the weather, and the worms" and then the devices are shown laying in sand.
Sometimes when you’re Ganondorf that shit happens to you - Henry 2024
Alia keeps pace with the storm
Nice movie you made there...
so how did they build that spiky thing?
It unfolds from the spaceship. Almost like an awning rolling out from an RV, just a super futuristic one. It's a shame we dont get to see it deploy, since they probably worked out exactly how it would work during the design phase.
Basically a huge tent.
If you look well
The metal thing IS exactly as Irulan dress or face vell
Is metal triangles or something like that
It's the Emperors War Tent. It deploys out of the bottom of the ship through the doors. You can also see wires going from the ship to the tent, presumably a hoist mechanism or an elevator system.
I really wanted to actually see it unfold from the massive chrome pokeball
What the harkonnens could’ve done to win this battle, is to see the worm signs and alert nearby artillery ships. In this scene we only see house Corrino troops on the compound, the Harkonnen pill ships that Feyd used to blow up mountains are no where to be seen.
So when Paul finally fought his way to the compound’s throne room to meet Feyd and Shaddam, Harkonnen pill ships shows up, blow a hole on the ceiling, airlifts the Harkonnens to safety and shoot up the whole place. Pill ships can be shielded up since worms can’t reach it, and any attempts at lasering the shield would lead to the entire compound, enemy or foe be blown up. So fremen won’t do that. The Storm is not a problem for a ship, because we literally see humans fighting inside the storm.
How do you blow the ceiling open without killing those underneath it?
@@leonardocurcio6199 1 shot of Lasers, the same disintegrating lasers used in dune part I
Problem is that Paul probably would’ve had a counter plan to deal with that. The issue is that by this point he was prescient and that there was almost NO one who could challenge him at this point. The only thing here that posed a real threat to Paul was Count Fenring.
@@anthonymartell9880 At this point Paul is not prescient. In the book maybe but not in the movie.
It escapes you that part of Paul's plan is to use the great sandstorm to eliminate all of the airborne threat. even Feyd's old-school ships would have been useless. not to mention that Paul is prescient at this point
They see shadam rolling they hating 🤬
Oh my god, his ship is a giant cubemap probe
Pardon me, but I can't sit in theaters any more. Was there a Navigator in these new films?
I'm afraid not.
It must have took time for the Emperor to unload his entire arm forces. Doubt it they could do it in a day.
Nope.
The Guild ship I within the HOUR anywhere in the universe.
Weight or number a is just more solari/spice
I finally watched it.
It was good. It wasn't great.
Putin has put some weight on
He thinks he's Palpatine
1:11 - What Dewey Doo!?
yo guys where can u see this movie
amazon prime
HBO Max. In a few days.
*That's no moon.*
Im not sure what to think about the double sonic boom and some visual similarities to spaceX rockets landing, its kind of cute^^
1:03 what in the heck is going on with Feyd's lips here? It looks like they couldn't get Austin Butler for the scene so they made a CGI version of him, but couldn't get the lips working before shooting. His mouth awkwardly hangs open while he talks.
You can easily say “what is he doing here?” with very little or even no lip movement
How I arrive to the function
I hope someone would dedicate a wikipedia for this movie, so that we can identify ships and vehicle of each faction.
Space Balls!
We ballin'
1:09 watdeweydo
Emperor Pokemon!
Pokeball?
0:39
The emperor arrived in a Giant Poke-Ball!
Is the shot of the ships flying overhead at 0:51 a nod to the original Star Wars trilogy? I feel like there was a very similar shot in one of those movies, but can't quite remember where it was.
Yes. It feels very Star Wars to me.
You're probably thinking of Snoke's ship the Supremacy from the Last Jedi.
@@forrestpenrod2294 I don't think it's the ship type that rings a bell for me, moreso just the shot of multiple ships flying overhead and then into the distance. Maybe there's a shot like that with ships flying towards the Death Star
@@geikogecko
You're thinking of the opening scene of Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones. I loved how that scene was shot.
I can see how the Emperor ship's arrival in Dune Part 2 are similar.
1:03 What is going on with his mouth? Watch it at 1/4 speed to see how weird it is.
How obliging is the emperor, getting himself all teed up for us…
AD'DAAM RESHI RAZANTA!
This is so dark and depressing compared to the original.
Dune is not supposed to be an uplifting story
@@AgentMercer The original was uplifting! WTH???
@@MindHunger the original what? The original movie? It was campy and over-dramatic, even the director of that movie resents it. The books were not uplifting
@@AgentMercer Now you are just making things up.
@@MindHunger not at all. You can easily search it up, Lynch hates his own version of Dune so much that he is too ashamed to watch the new adaptions, because he was not able to make his movie the way he wanted to due to restrictions.
"Long live the fighters" is an interesting phrase, an oxymoron perhaps. Or a prayer
Anyone else notice when the spaceball was hovering over the palace that they forgot to turn off the reentry effect? At first I dismissed it as wind blown sand against the shields, but the more I looked at it the less it looked that way, especially because of the tail it made...
Watching the emperor's ship fall through the atmosphere and land is one of the coolest scene in film history.
'Starman' from 1984 did it first, however.
Wow even 30,000 years in the future, Soldiers still use terrain model kits to visualize an attack and plan 😂😂😂
The old ways still work.
What's cool is that the Fremen practice all the right things, operational security, keeping eyes on target and keeping the Fremen hidden. Also, Paul delivers a short to the point plan and commanders' intent all into one paragraph. The end state of the operation is I need the emperor alive. His plan also includes seizing Arakeen, which has the space port and the residence.
@@destroyer0685 lol someone graduated from MCCC lol
@pshangkuan1 commanded at company, battalion and brigade level with XO and three time
I have been there done that, got the t shirt and got my retirement pay
Should have guessed with the 06 Designation. ⛩⛩
Why in the world would the ship get hot as it passes through the atmosphere? It's got a suspension field and can drop slowly. It's not like it's falling. And it's not air braking either. This looks like a bad error.
If I'm not wrong if you don't go fast enough you'll just bounce off of the atmosphere, and I guess there was nothing in Dune that changed that or had a reason to change that from how it is in real life
Maybe the emperor was in a hurry and dropped fast with minimal suspension
Since the ship has a shield there's no reason to descend slowly. They probably wanted to get their army deployed quickly without giving the Fremen more time to react.
I’m not getting enough scowl! I have a fever and the prescription is more whaymen scowl.
for what reason has the emperor arrived on arrakis?
Paul Muad'ib challenged him with a letter sealed by the Atreides ring. the Emperor cannot risk Paul revealing to the Great Houses the participation of house Corrino against the elimination of the Atreides
He got exposed and called out for eliminating house atraides. Paul challenged him for the throne
WATCH THE MOVIE!!!
@@rickdeckard1honestly that's the thing that has been bugging me eversince. The Emperor shows up unannounced on Arrakis, surprising the Baron as he sends a distress call to the other houses believing the Emperor is here to destroy him. So later on when the Great Houses arrive why would they reject Paul? I thought they showed up to form an alliance against the Emperor?
@@casper2694 Great houses reject Paul because the balance between the houses totally collapse..Paul as emperor + total control over Arrakis make him too strong..with spice, he can also easily control Spacing guild make him can destroy any other houses without costly too much
Ok but, like, that was the point that was bothering me - why did the emperor show up himself to Arrakis? Just bc some dude in the desert is talking smack? Couldnt he just send someone to deal with it? Like he has a galaxy to run.
And then - why is Irulan there too? She doesn't have more things going on in her life?
Cos if word gets out Paul lived and he tells the truth the houses will turn on the emperor anyway. Haven’t you been paying attention? For the love of god
Because Paul could have also told the great houses that The Emperor supported the destruction of one of them
If that happened the ENTIRE Landsdrad would have turned against house Corrino
And such war would probably make Paul Jihad look like childplay
People like you are the reason cinema has been stupefied.
Why didn't the Emperor use his fighter ships?? Plot hole
They literally explained it 1:55 “defense systems” is aerial support as well.
The only hole is in your pea brain.
The sandstorm fried their sistems
It was so stupid to land on the sand, like, in 10k years of spice production not ONE person from the imperium documented the fremen could ride the sandworms like giant death vacuums?
The spacing guild more than likely knew this whole time.
Fremen paid the Guild to have no sattelites over arrakis
Oh shut up chani what better idea for the future of your people do you have.
Freeing Arrakis vs universal conquest
They should have helped Duke Leto at least the north Fremmen that believed in freeing their people instead of the brain washing prophecy
Chani = Sheer f00kin hubris
??? she had no lines in this scene you weirdo
@@Zlarelexcept arrakis will never be free as long as spice exist.
While visually spectacular , I find nothing compelling about these movies.
I feel nothing about these characters and their journey.
That's great! Next time, keep it to yourself! 😁
@@the40kboyz11 But...But....Comments.
The actor playing Paul has no presence
people who didn't read the books don't get an opinion on the movies
Yes we do.
As someone who read the books, stop gatekeeping.
@@gaiusfulmen NO, we still get an opinion.
@@mobulis I wasn't replying to you. If I was, there would be a handle ("@mobulis") in my comment. Much like the handle in your own erroneous comment. In other words, I was agreeing with you.
average hollywood fast food movie.
Average disney + subscriber
This is literally anything but. Have you seen it. It's make by an art house director and you can tell.
Gurney was such a letdown in the movies after reading the books. On the page he was a musician, had a wry wit, and looked like a lephrechaun sent through a meat grinder. Instead of that colorful person we get generic soldier guy....
Why does the ship of the Emperor enters Arrakis' atmosphere like a Space Shuttles reentry? The Guild ships do not need a planetary orbit with it's high velocities, and the Emperors ship could glide slowly and gracefully down with the anti-grav techology in the Herberts Dune universe.
Not everything that looks dramatic is sensible ...
Burning your way trough the atmosphere is faster, or to show power, or to just look cool in the movie, I think its everything above
I think real life physics got something to do with it
@@PotatoBoy44 You mean Herberts Dune is hard scifi, based on physics? Not to sure about that ...
@@f.herumusu8341 well some of it can be
Why they decided they need to change the pronunciation of so many names/words is beyond me. You only have to listen to interviews with the author himself to know its "Har-KO-nin", not "Harkinin", and that its "Fed-A-Keen" not "Fed-EYEkin".
After the BS changes in the first movie, I decided to just wait for this to go to video. Having seen some of these idiotic, story-breaking 'I'm smarter than Frank Herbert' changes I'm not even going to watch it on video. Dune '84, for it's problems, was better.
The dialogue is too basic for my taste, prefer the 80s version use of language.
You mean the one where there's out loud thoughts of all the characters just exposition dumping the entire movie? How is that better then showing the story through visuals.
I love the way Chani looks at Paul as though she resents being ordered around by a wimpy white kid.
That or she knows that the end of this plan involved Paul officially marrying Irulan, which means either she gets cucked by Nerd Girl or Vice Versa, and that does not sit well with her.
all she does is look resentful
@@matthewkrulitski8788not that much honestly
Paul doesn't give a shit about Irulan, he only wants a legal claim to the Throne with a marriage