Why Andrew McCutchen Should Be a Hall of Famer
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- Опубликовано: 28 янв 2024
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Andrew McCutchen is one of the most beloved players of his generation, but he's not quite receiving Hall of Fame buzz as his career winds down. Yet...we really should start having this conversation.
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I'm a massive Joe Mauer fan and thought he'd make the Hall eventually, but I think the character clause might be why he ended up a first ballot Hall of Famer. That gives me some hope for Cutch.
I think they both deserve it for the same reasons. The stats are right up to the threshold but not quite there. But who they are and what they've done SHOULD make them included into the endless fabric of baseball history. Like how we'd view it in 50 years
You did him justice. Thanks for putting this out
Perfect usage of Here We Go - Mac Miller instrumental as the background audio. 2 iconic Pittsburgh legends
i thought that was what it was i wasnt sure tho
talking over background music is not good regardless of what the music is.
Cutch is the only thing Pirates fans have had to smile about in a loooooooong time. Love the guy he should be in the HOF based on vibes alone
Vibes lmao FOH
@@tsua8061nah he right
@@sir.muffiniii7011Kenny lofton is a way better player and he didn’t come close to getting voted in
@@gnielsen07 and he 100% should be in the HOF
Quick note on the furry ordeal. During last season’s furry convention games a furry was on the big screen before his AB. The furry was on the gateway clipper (a boat ride known by people in Pittsburgh). Yes he did in fact hit a HR
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Phillies fan here, was thrilled to have him make a stop here during his great (and still ongoing) career! And glad he got to go back to Pittsburgh.
i met him when he was on the indianapolis indians and he is one of the best people ive ever seen. he even played catch with my father and i after the game while we were sitting in the grass (off the field not on) in the outfield after the game. got a signed jersey that im not selling until i die. one of the best people in baseball.
Cutch should 100 percent be in the hall. He is really, truly, a good person, and an amazing ball player. He has better stats than some HOFers and he is not done yet. He still has a chance for 300 home runs. He is a legend and deserves a plaque for sure.
He also has the chance to detract from his career numbers, remember that.
He needs one HR for 300. If he doesn't get it, ban him from the Hall! Just kidding, obliviously he'll get it.
If only there were furries at more of his games
@@Leafgreen1976 Fair, but he's also already inserted himself as a legend in Pirates history.
@@tmoney305 😂
Cutch has always been my favorite player. He's an absolute Pirates legend. I'd love to see him get in. Thanks for the video!
Nice touch with the mac miller in the background
Fr I was wondering how he didn't get copyright with the beats
Preface: I agree. But, if Cutch is in, then Posey, Lofton, Utley, Hunter and Bernie Williams should all be in….
Winners, dominated entire era’s at their positions… they should all be in. I don’t see the voters going this way. That’s a big problem.
Posey And Utley will likely get in by the end of the decade and Lofton has a lot of support to where eventually I see him getting in
I don't know. If McCutchen gets in I think it will primarily be on the back of being VERY well liked. He has an MVP and some outstanding seasons but he's also had large portions of his career as a veteran roll player. Its been the better part of a decade since any pitcher went in circling his name on the lineup card. I feel like he's the kind of guy who's JUST outside the hall. Someone who stays on the ballot all 10 years, maybe gets 50% of the votes at best but doesn't quite make it. Unless of course he has a freak resurgence. Maybe he says "its my last year, I don't need to be in playing shape after this. Im just going to lay it all out." and gets MVP votes one more time.
You also have to factor this in during McCutchen’s prime run with the Pirates from 09-17 only three of his teammates made the All-Star game during that run. Pedro Alvarez, 2013, Josh Harrison 2014,2017 Starling Marte in 2016 So he primarily had to carry the load during his run but for a legitimate Hall of Fame chance he needs to have a couple more good seasons and hopefully the Pirates can make deep postseason run With him, maybe doing a few magical things would help push him over the edge to be a Hall of Famer instead of just being very borderline right now
Cutch was a dominant player for 5 years (2011-2015). Rest of his career has been incredibly mid. Baseball hall of fame is very difficult to get in…
I agree. Saw Cutch take BP at CBP in 2012. He hit the ball on a line harder than anybody. Electric hands, electric speed, electric defense. MVP. Obviously many, especially the youngins, will remember him for his mediocrity in his declining years. But it was clear to me that Cutch was the best player on the field at the time.
3:55 lol, terrific at bat. The sequencing there is funny.
I adore him and I am a Cubs fan. I think this is a valid thought! Clutch for HOF. LET'S GO!
Just put everybody in the hall of fame
@@brandonneumann5294that’s not what he’s saying lol
I love the Mac Miller tracks in the back. Cutch is one of my fav players of all time, especially among favorite Andrews of all time lol. Hope he winds up in the hall one day
Such a great video. I think Cutch deserves to be in. He really carried those great Pirate teams of the early 2010s. Also appreciate you sticking with the Pittsburgh theme of the video with the Mac Miller instrumentals
If McCutchen gets in, then Torii Hunter 100% deserves it.
I'm for both actually so I'd be all for it
Cutch essentially brought baseball back to Pittsburgh after some bad, bad years. He had a peak where he was truly one of the 5 best players in all of baseball. What he’s also meant to Pittsburgh and really baseball in general, off the field will also back up a HOF career
Love that you dropped that Mac Miller instrumental in the middle of the vid. Very fitting since both Mac and McCutchen are Pittsburgh legends
This is the reason Ozzie should be in the hall. I've seen people say he is undeserving, but he was more than just his stats, he was a bigger person on and off the field.
Smith? Who says he shouldn't be? Best defender to grace any middle infield, .280 or so avg, 2,000 hits, 500 steals, beloved by most. He set the record for shortstops for assists and total chances. Unquestionably the greatest Shortstop of all time.
@@TheOGSticks11younger fans obsessed with war seem to be the ones saying ozzie shouldn't be in. They're also the same fools who think a guy like brian giles should be a hall of famer because his war is 50.
@@johnwayne9828 the pendulum is eventually going to swing back the other way, and we'll start hearing people talk about how WAR was overvalued during this era.
@@johnwayne9828Ozzie Smith had a WAR over 70 so I’m pretty sure the younger, saber-metrics era fans would like him just as much as the old heads
@@noodler5583 maybe I'm misremembering the reasoning. I watched a video on vizquel and compared him to ozzie. Mighta been overall stats instead of war that oz came up short. I still standby the modern fans obsessed with war.
Can’t wait to see a half dozen poorly made videos with nearly the same title. Because you make amazing content, bro. Truly.
A player whose WAR is in the neighborhood of Brett Gardner and Curtis Granderson is a Hall of Very Good player
Using Mac miller music was perfection my favorite album is faces too
This video was so good but with the subtle Mac Miller tracks in the background was *chefs kiss*
My barber is the one who cut his dreads off. He told me that Cutch, to this day, is the nicest client he’s ever had.
The Mac Miller music in the background tho makes this video more Pittsburgh legendary 🔥
You don't have to convince me. I am not a Pirates fan, but I have followed his career. When his time to be in the HOF comes, send an updated version of this to all the sportswriters. And I agree, the good guys should get some consideration too. When you are on that fine line, that should be something that tips them over into the HOF.
Barry Bonds having 50 WAR with the pirates is insane - the man had 2 hall of fame careers. Barry is the biggest snub - take away 20% of all his stats to account for the roids and he’s still an absolute lock.
Thank you for all the Mac Miller beats in the background on the kid from Pittsburg
Nice cherry picking of the oWAR stat to say he's better than Puckett. Cutch is a HOFer, but he isn't close to being what Puckett was nor as legendary. All while Puck had his career cut decently short with Cutch already playing more than three seasons longer.
yeah he should be in the hall of fame, the pittsburgh pirates hall of fame not baseball hall of fame
His 3 years with my Phillies were so much fun to watch. I absolutely love Cutch
Instrumentals off of Faces by Mac Miller in the background is a nice touch
Killer ballpoint pen ref. McCutchen is the only player I have a jersey for. So you know where I stand.
Excellent video and valid points about baseball culture needing a huge dose of reality!
Not disagreeing with your take, but Cutch currently ranks no higher than 3rd on a list of Pirates who should be inducted behind Parker & Oliver.
McCutchen might get a little consideration. But since his career path is most similar to Fred Lynn I doubt he cracks more than 25%
The fact that the Pirates got Bryan Reynolds in return when they traded Cutch should add the his credentials.
Thank you for this 🙌
God I love Cutch. Great video!!
I feel like Dustin Pedroia also falls into this category especially with how his career ended
My favorite baseball player of all time and genuinely nice guy that brought my happiness back to pirates baseball. I love him but man idk about hof but great recognition.
You're 100% on here. He's a legend in the Burgh and I'd give him a H.O.F. vote if I had one.
faces background music? oh yeah!!!
I think you accurately explained the thoughts and feelings of basically most baseball fans. Dude is a legend not just for his stats. He is similar to the Joe Mauer affect as well. Though Mauer did have elite numbers and awards.
Speaking of that 2013 pirates season could you do a video based on that season
Ayy, diablo by mac miller in the background!
I still wear my Uncle Larry shirt, loved him as a Phillie. The character clause should work for Jimmy Rollins too.
Cutch was always clutch. Great video
I think he’s a hall of fame player, not just because he’s a nice guy but because he was a great player. But remember it’s the hall of fame, not the hall of morals
Then explain why Barry bonds isn’t in.
@@cargopilotguy305 I think Barry bonds should be in, like I said it’s not the hall of morals. I do think the voting is rigged, so I think we should just have a standard instead of a vote
I agree with you.
If we can keep an objectively "should be in" player out because of character, we should also use it to put in an objectively "pretty dang good player for a long time" player in.
It's both fair and logical to do so.
Pausing the video for why I think he's a solid HOF hopeful and then I'm excited to hear your arguments.
He does everything well. Not 500 hr but 300 (soon) , not 500 steals but 200, over 1k walks, over 1k rbi, over 2k hits. He's likely to hit 50 WAR this season and he has accolades from his prime that are outstanding. Plus a gold glove just to prove he was an above average defender while also hitting like an mvp.
I don't know if you can tell the story of baseball without Cutch. What he did for the city to bring back winning baseball, and hes trying to do it again. And 4 straight top 5 MVP finishes with a win. And you have both counting stats (300 homers, 200 steals, 2000 hits) and the awards (MVP, silver slugger, gold glove, roberto clemente award, etc).
So much agreed! I wish he’d been in Philly a little longer.
Cutch is by far my favorite mlb player. As a young pirates i got to grow up and see this guy's greatness on and off the field.
Having Mac Miller instrumentals in the background is a nice touch.
I respect the faces instrumentals in the background
Bold take but I’m interested. If he gets in for your reasons it’ll be huge for the HOF. Also if we’re taking into consideration storylines and how iconic they were for their franchise then Frank White should be in the HOF (similar stats to Mazeroski, whole career with Royals, tied with Alex Gordon for franchise record 8 Gold Gloves, and supported by current HOF players that he should be in)
Lmao I love Jeff pasan for the troll stuff he does 😂
He's a good player, but a GREAT player? Never had 100 rbis in a season. Hit 30 hrs once in his career. .276 career batting average is good, but great? No.
Defense and intangibles add something, but it seems as the years go by the bar for the HOF gets lowered....It used to be reserved for the best of the best, but now the guys in the 2nd and 3rd row are getting in.
Using Faces by Mac Miller is such a great touch on this video, Pittsburgh legends.
Using WAR, in any comparison is a joke, at best a theory, that I give zero credit for being a thing. But Cutch does deserve to be in HOF.
With the Mac Miller instrumentals 😏🔥😮💨
I mean let's be honest, goldy deserves to have won that mvp over cutch, they just got to the postseason so the narrative favored him.
Super borderline for the hall, but I respect the argument
Lol. Moises alou had a better career. He got less than 5% of votes , first year dropped off ballot
If Bernie Williams, Edmonds, and Jones can’t get in, I don’t see Cutch in.
All of them should be in the HOF. That’s just me though. HOF voting has always been a popularity contest tho
Definitely bud. Hell, even Damon has the counting stats plus 2 rings… dog and pony show all the way
Great video and I total agree with you about Cutch. I believe he will be a HOFer once his career is over.
McCutchen was my childhood hero. What he did for the Pirates and the city of Pittsburgh as a whole can not be overstated. Hopefully voters recognize how important he was in my life and thousands of other kids like me growing up in Pittsburgh at the time.
I think like Joe Mauer, cutch is one of those where pure stats may be "hall if very good" but when you combine it with his stewardship for the game and what he means for Pittsburgh, he's now in. If we're going to keep people out because of grumpy abrasiveness, it should work the other way. Particularly in Grey zones
That's why I think the Hall should lean more into telling the story of baseball, not necessarily just inducting the best players ever. I actually think David Ortiz kind of started this trend, he had ties to steroids like so many other guys around him, but he had such a likable character and meant so much to Boston that he got first ballot despite possibly having done stetroids early in his career. Joe Mauer and even Adrian Beltre are both continuing this trend this year as well. I think this is a very good sign for Cutch to potentially be first ballot worthy in 2030 or whatever year it winds up being
He gave us hope when the pirate stunk for decades now.
I’m not going to lie, this actually kinda convinced me. It helps promote the genuinely good guys who were very good if just short of obvious hof numbers. Plenty of guys have gotten in with questionable totals already. But it would have to be special cases and cutch might be one
Cutch is up there with Mario Lemieux and the Steel Curtain as Pittsburgh sports royalty.
He should absolutely be in the hall of fame. Should've won mvp twice and not just once. Plus he was just a great dude that the fans loved and NO ONE has more incredible plays than him
For what he did dragging the Pirates back to relevancy I agree. On a personal note, I moved to Pittsburgh in part due to the experience I had at the ballpark and I never would have visited if not for what Cutch did in building up that brand.
8:52 those player's weekend jerseys were SOOOO good. leave it to the MLB to take a great thing and completely ruin it (remember the awful black and white ones???) before dismissing it entirely
Cutch is a legend, we love him so much in Pittsburgh.
This video almost made me cry. Cutch is the biggest reason I love baseball as much as I do
If Matt holiday is in the hall of very good then he is too
Anyone notice all the Mac miller songs in the background, two Pittsburgh legends
Love ‘Cutch. Hope he plays forever.
Amazing prime, just very little production besides his insane 5 year stretch
When I think of Cutch, I think, "man I love watching that guy play." I don't think "this is one of the best players I've ever seen in my life."
Cutch is a perfect example of Hall of Very Good.
Cutch was an on base machine during his prime
Okay so I’m from Pgh so let me say this. People who aren’t from here have no idea what this man means to our city. Andrew McCutchen is the person who saved & brought the love of baseball back to Pittsburgh after 20 years of misery. He means so so much here. But I don’t think he’s a HOFer. Hall of “very good for a short time”
From 12-15 he was an mvp finalist every year, including winning one. He was on pace to be in the hof, but just suddenly declined quicker than what was anticipated in 2016. He hasn’t been a superstar since 2015. So 2016-2023 just an average player who’s dealt w injuries that has caught up to him. we overrated (and rightfully so) him in Pittsburgh, but I don’t think he’s a HOFer.
He seems to me like Kenny Lofton. Great center fielder, if he made the HOF it wouldn't make the HOF worse. But at the same time, it wouldn't make the HOF look silly if he didn't.
Kenny lofton made the hall look stupid for not putting him in.
He used #22, the number after Clemente #21. He was supposed to be the Next great Pirate. He signed with other teams and then he returned. That was so bad. I agree he should be a HOF.
Why not? Harold Baines got in. Might as well lose all respect for the HOF!
He's a dude, but I think he falls short of the hall... When's the last time he was the best player on his team? Prob back earlier with the pirates... He had a very solid 5 year peak, but the rest of his seasons are just a little above average. Anyway would be hard to give mccutchen a vote and not someone else on the ballot
Inner circle hall of very good
If he’s a hall of famer, is Joey votto a hall of famer? Numbers are similar
Neither are. They're both really good
@@kenw2225votto should be a hall of famer if ortiz is
Votto is definitely a HOFer. Cutch is not.
@@MM33003 good take
Nope. There is no argument for McCutchen to be in the HOF. None. All his metrics are waaaaay low. Yep - he's a good guy - but he gets the Hall of Very Good and that's about ti.
He's the ultimate vibes guy
If he didn’t fall off so bad in his early 30’s due to missed time w injuries he’d prob get there hit as things are now he’s not HOF material
HOWS IT FEEL TO HANG AROUND A MF LIKE ME
If Matt holiday couldn’t even get a chance to be 2nd ballot cutch ain’t making it unless he’s got a lot more solid years in him
I agree. We need to respect a prime that lasts 7-10years. He stands out when we think of Pitt, he is in the story of baseball.
7 years longer than ball point pens, god dang it I love baseball
He has a very similar WAR and ops+ to Kirby Puckett. Kirby got there in less time and had a longer prime, but he was also a first ballot hall of famer. Andrew won a MVP, which Kirby never did. I think I would make him wait a couple years, but when I break it down I think he has to get in.
he is no kirby puckett