I got notified by a viewer zieraq I made a mistake, World in Conflict is available only on GOG, you can get it here for very cheap: www.gog.com/en/game/world_in_conflict_complete_edition
From what I gathered from the patreon and other talks I saw, DORF team reworked the lighting and switched from shp file ( westwoods sprite structure) to a more modern file structure to support the lighting changes. That is why developments been slow as of recent.
So... we have couple of command and conquer-likes. One Black and White clone. One Supreme Commander clone And one that looks very much like a clone of Wargame. I'll be honest, that is not exactly optimistic - becasue everything is extremely derrivative here - and the best from this list appears to be DORF because it goes for unique aesthetic somewhat reminding me of Brigador.
@@GoblinGaming13 I've been saying this for a long time - RTS needs a rough equivalent of Doom 2016. Just like it broke the dominance of "grey military shooters", RTS needs something to deal with SC2/C&C/AoE multiplayer focused clones. And there are ways to improve - one of the biggest problems with strategies is... false premise - most of those strategies are... not really about strategy - success is usually a build order and million APM, rivalring the most intense of shooters. The need to turn your keyboard into a bloody piano and need to memorise all the shortcuts to be at all viable is not strategy. You'd think that with all the advancements in AI, strategies would benefit greatly from the units able to follow orders without excessive micro - and yet we see it only in colony sims, like Rimworld or Dwarf Fortress. Units in most modern strategies are only marginally less helpless than in strategies from 20 years ago. You still need to directly control every aspect... instead of executing actual strategy.
@@hideshisface1886 I agree with the APM sentiment and I think some games are trying to change that, for example Immortal: Gates of Pyre allows you to have a feature enabled which let's you focus on your units while the buildings and units are produced according to your setting (early game rush, eco rush etc) as long as you have 1000+ resources. This can help with not needing to constantly press buttons. I would find it very interesting if someone would try to develop a an RTS on emphasis on S, something like Total War had when you were in battle.
Can we now conclude that Stormgate failed to meet gamers' expectations despite all the hype? I believe that Battle Aces and Gates of Pyre will not make the same mistake.
Agreed. I'm actually making a video on Stormgate. I'll be very honest, Gates of Pyre in the alpha state is more enjoyable to me personally than Stormgate. If Gates of Pyre continue on this path, the developers have a hit on their hands.
@@GoblinGaming13 Interesting. Were you able to participate in the GoP weekend test play? I followed the action through the "Play Together" channel on Discord and watched others in action.
@@geraldezeafulukwe3652 I was! I loved every second of it, I'm amazed how good it is, complete opposite of Stormgate. If ZeroHour follows, things will be great for RTS fans.
If it's ever got a real release and not demo after demo followed by Kickstarter and early access. Don't get my wrong, I would love to play a real successor to SupCom.....
@@GoblinGaming13There's an ongoing weekend playtest on Steam, it's the perfect time to test it out. I hope it will be better than Stargate, that was a fiasco.
I'll try out the demo today, I'm releasing one video today - already almost done, but I'm also putting one out on Thursday, so I'll have enough time with the game. I'll gladly do a video on it.
The games on the list are upcoming, War selection is already playable for quite awhile. I'll do more videos on games which can already be played soon, so keep an eye out!
I realized I don't really even like RTS games... but I hate city builders. I have always and still play Age of Empires series games, including AoM. I like the slow pace, the versus AI, and massive maps with like unrealistic expectations. Like a singleplayer 12 v 12 FFA, on a nice difficulty I don't have to try very hard to get better but is still challenging for me.
There's AoM Retold coming soon, which would probably fit your preferences. About city builders, there are some out there which would maybe break the hate you have for them, something like Memoriapolis which I'm covering in a video I'm currently recording, it has no warfare but other challenges are there. I'll try to scour Steam for more AI big map friendly games too! :)
First two are the only ones currently available, others on the list are not. I included them for that reason, so there's something you can actually already play on the list too. Rogue Command is actually pretty good. Beyond All Reason is more like Total Annihilation.
@@stevenanderson9532 there's some good looking ones on my latest list and I got into the playtest for Immortal: Gates of Pyre. Can't wait to try it out later today.
I got notified by a viewer zieraq I made a mistake, World in Conflict is available only on GOG, you can get it here for very cheap: www.gog.com/en/game/world_in_conflict_complete_edition
From what I gathered from the patreon and other talks I saw, DORF team reworked the lighting and switched from shp file ( westwoods sprite structure) to a more modern file structure to support the lighting changes. That is why developments been slow as of recent.
Better to get it right than to push the game out for the sake of it. It looks really good.
dorf and shattered sun are the only hope for RTS....
Good choice!
@@GoblinGaming13 best choice!! Lol
So... we have couple of command and conquer-likes.
One Black and White clone.
One Supreme Commander clone
And one that looks very much like a clone of Wargame.
I'll be honest, that is not exactly optimistic - becasue everything is extremely derrivative here - and the best from this list appears to be DORF because it goes for unique aesthetic somewhat reminding me of Brigador.
To be fair, it's pretty hard to innovate in RTS these days, I think if RTS makes it back to the gaming scene again innovations will also come.
@@GoblinGaming13 I've been saying this for a long time - RTS needs a rough equivalent of Doom 2016.
Just like it broke the dominance of "grey military shooters", RTS needs something to deal with SC2/C&C/AoE multiplayer focused clones.
And there are ways to improve - one of the biggest problems with strategies is... false premise - most of those strategies are... not really about strategy - success is usually a build order and million APM, rivalring the most intense of shooters.
The need to turn your keyboard into a bloody piano and need to memorise all the shortcuts to be at all viable is not strategy.
You'd think that with all the advancements in AI, strategies would benefit greatly from the units able to follow orders without excessive micro - and yet we see it only in colony sims, like Rimworld or Dwarf Fortress.
Units in most modern strategies are only marginally less helpless than in strategies from 20 years ago. You still need to directly control every aspect... instead of executing actual strategy.
@@hideshisface1886 I agree with the APM sentiment and I think some games are trying to change that, for example Immortal: Gates of Pyre allows you to have a feature enabled which let's you focus on your units while the buildings and units are produced according to your setting (early game rush, eco rush etc) as long as you have 1000+ resources. This can help with not needing to constantly press buttons. I would find it very interesting if someone would try to develop a an RTS on emphasis on S, something like Total War had when you were in battle.
Can we now conclude that Stormgate failed to meet gamers' expectations despite all the hype? I believe that Battle Aces and Gates of Pyre will not make the same mistake.
Agreed. I'm actually making a video on Stormgate. I'll be very honest, Gates of Pyre in the alpha state is more enjoyable to me personally than Stormgate. If Gates of Pyre continue on this path, the developers have a hit on their hands.
Stormgate feels like a carbon copy of Warcraft and StarCraft in the worst way possible. There's just nothing new and exciting about that game to me
@@fellkin sadly you are correct. The game had the most hype too. Luckily Immortal: Gates of Pyre is awesome even in alpha l.
@@GoblinGaming13 Interesting. Were you able to participate in the GoP weekend test play? I followed the action through the "Play Together" channel on Discord and watched others in action.
@@geraldezeafulukwe3652 I was! I loved every second of it, I'm amazed how good it is, complete opposite of Stormgate. If ZeroHour follows, things will be great for RTS fans.
mmmm shattered sun
Can't wait to try it out myself!
If it's ever got a real release and not demo after demo followed by Kickstarter and early access. Don't get my wrong, I would love to play a real successor to SupCom.....
D.O.R.F. looks super solid
It does, can't wait for more!
I am not a big RTS fan but this is a good collection of Command and Conquer type games. Sins of a Solar Empire is the best in this genre IMHO
Thanks, I'll do other game lists too :).
@@GoblinGaming13 Thanks a lot. Good fortune in your future endeavors.
Nice video. If you are fun of RTS then you should definitely check out Gates of Pyre. When I checked it the first time, I thought StarCraft 3 was out.
Will do, always love me a good new RTS!
@@GoblinGaming13There's an ongoing weekend playtest on Steam, it's the perfect time to test it out. I hope it will be better than Stargate, that was a fiasco.
I’m really excited for DORF
Same here, hope we get something new soon!
Thank you! Please cover my indie RTS "Nuke them all"! We just released a major summer update with the new units and gameplay features + updated demo!
I'll try out the demo today, I'm releasing one video today - already almost done, but I'm also putting one out on Thursday, so I'll have enough time with the game. I'll gladly do a video on it.
D.O.R.F. reminds me more of Dominion 3 with a hint of Thandor than RA2.
Hmm, you might be right. Can't wait for more information to come out!
I don't see world in conflict on steam, only Gog.
You would be correct, I guess I spoke from "muscle memory". Will add to pinned comment, thank you for telling me.
4:19 Any game in which the Russians have an army capable of going toe-to-toe with the US is definitely fantasy :')
True, but if it were realistic it wouldn't be much of a fun game :). Real life would be closer to the Wagner episode in Siria I believe.
Make a video on Gates of pyre
I did: ruclips.net/video/9W5-Ylmi4yE/видео.html it's a good game, waiting for more news on it now
@@GoblinGaming13 Nice, I will check it out now
where is war selection?
The games on the list are upcoming, War selection is already playable for quite awhile. I'll do more videos on games which can already be played soon, so keep an eye out!
Tempest rising beat them all
I covered Tempest Rising in the first video, check it out in the playlist :).
I realized I don't really even like RTS games... but I hate city builders. I have always and still play Age of Empires series games, including AoM. I like the slow pace, the versus AI, and massive maps with like unrealistic expectations. Like a singleplayer 12 v 12 FFA, on a nice difficulty I don't have to try very hard to get better but is still challenging for me.
There's AoM Retold coming soon, which would probably fit your preferences. About city builders, there are some out there which would maybe break the hate you have for them, something like Memoriapolis which I'm covering in a video I'm currently recording, it has no warfare but other challenges are there. I'll try to scour Steam for more AI big map friendly games too! :)
First two are cheesy even compared to Total annihilation, bed time finish later if I'm bored.
First two are the only ones currently available, others on the list are not. I included them for that reason, so there's something you can actually already play on the list too. Rogue Command is actually pretty good. Beyond All Reason is more like Total Annihilation.
@@GoblinGaming13 don't get me wrong, last 2 of 3 Sweet!
@@stevenanderson9532 there's some good looking ones on my latest list and I got into the playtest for Immortal: Gates of Pyre. Can't wait to try it out later today.