I had known there was a "ghost Station" there since the 80s, I had lived in Edmonton from 1980 to 2001 and have recorded it passing thru Churchill on etc etc, from inside the train, you really can't see too much going 35 kmh, but seeing it from outside the train, it adds to the location of what was going on. I have heard it was for prisoners on Remand, going on so called "prison trains" to another location, but also I have seen the original plans in the 1960s of how the original LRT system would have looked like. Who knows long term, they might have service to the Intl Airport and WEM. :D
@@AlexisTheWriter Not officially. Phase 1: to Heritage Valley (starting soon) Phase 2: to city limits (TBD) Phase 3: to airport (one day maybe) Should build it all in one phase.
They are withholding facts here. This station was going to be used to transport inmates from the old remand to the max just north of Edmonton with special armoured rail cars. This was obviously never completed.
my Dad worked for the court house in the late 70's and early 80's and he told us that they did transport inmates a few times. But it was deemed unsafe for the general population, and a waste of money and besides the walking tunnel between the courthouse and the remand was already under way
I have ride by here countless times since the LRT first started up in 1978. I always wondered what this wider section was between the tunnel entrance and the Churchill Station north Metro Line turnout. I am glad to have stumbled upon this video and have my question answered.
Question is where does someone access these stairs in the courthouse and old remand center ? I'd love to see what it looks like from the other side of those concrete walls . There are many publicly unknown areas throughout Edmonton's lrt system that are really cool but only lrt maintenance crews know about
For those interested the other two planned but never built stations were to be at Railtown on the CP Right of Way between 102 and 103 Avenue and a proper MacEwan University station at 107 St and 105 Avenue... These two additions would, could and should have created a great downtown subway loop. For those wondering where the info is from? It's from the Official ETS LRT design guidelines document. It also shows a phantom station next to the downtown Convention Centre in some of the plans which would have been cool to use/see built too!
Redundancy in any kind of infrastructure is a vitally important hedge against the unexpected trials and tribulations people could experience some day while living in a large city. - I first said that while not having a degree in Engineering myself too during maybe around the year 20016 or so.
I know it was intended for prisoner transport HOWEVER it should be fitted and completed as part of a rebuild of the entire block as "Edmonton Central Station" the HSR final destination in Edmonton for the Ellis-Don Prairie Link or some sort of regional rail for Edmonton. Now more than ever we should be shifting away from cars into a rail based electrically powered transport system that's 4X more efficient than cars/buses/trucks... Not to mention cleaner, quieter, etc.
@@RiceHatAhh405 Thanks for that, but I was referring to underground existing stations, not future above ground stations. Are there other underground "ghost" stations, where the infrastructure is already in place, but isn't accessible to the public?
Two more were planned but never built although they should be... Railtown at 102/103 Ave and the CP ROW which is a park... The other station unbuilt would be a proper MacEwan University station at 107 St at 105 Avenue... These exist in the official design guidelines book for ETS LRT planning. At one time a spur line and station next to the downtown Convention Centre also looked to be planned but the Valley Line largely replaced that concept...
That nice mint green was not put on for cosmetics. It was painted so track and signal workers could locate the "Insulated Rail Joint". It is deferent from other rail joints as it stops the electrical energy from entering the next "block" aka rail.
There's also a unused station that is connected to the CN tower. Not long after I moved here I worked security guarding a street access stairwell that was on the north west side of the property. Now with the epcor tower there I'm not sure if it's still around.
That unused station connected to the CN Tower used to belong to the Via-Rail company, and it was the point in Edmonton where Via Rail passengers would get on board the train there, instead of its current location along 121st Street, south of the Yellowhead. 🥲 If you take a look at Google World maps in 3D mode from about 1Km overhead, you can see how that spur line where the current station is continues southbound until you reach the Brew City Market (formally the old Molson House and Molson's brewery site) where the line starts to wrap around the corner of the cemetery there, and then proceeds eastbound towards the CN Tower. Those lands in there used to be rail yards for CN Rail (between 105Ave and 104 Ave and from 120th Street to roughly 102nd Street. That was the initial reason why Edmonton had that "Rat Hole on 109th Street between 105th Ave and underneath 104th Ave, ending at 103rd Ave. There was also an underpass on 101 Street between 105th Ave and 104th Ave as well at the time. And then the spur lines continued towards the CN Tower and the old Post Office (currently the R.A.M.), and hence the underpass still on 97th Street, which was there to allow vehicles to pass under the shared CN Rail and Via Rail Spur lines, heading further east until you hit the point where the LRT comes out of the ground, and you can still see the spacing left for the old rail lines on either side of where the LRT goes underground. From there, the old shared CN Rail and Via Rail lines paralleled the LRT tracks, all the way out past the LRT's Clairview terminus and back out to rejoin the CN Main line.
@@levyan4718 Yes, I know that the the old downtown post office was completely demolished, and that the Royal Alberta Museum has nothing to do with the old CN Rail line and VIA Rail spur. I was alluding to where the rail line was running along and what land marks, both in the past history of the city when the rail line was there and the current present we all live in with the rail line no longer there. Most people understand that the old post office was completely demolished, including the atomic bomb shelter that was in the basement of the old Post Office sorting plant downtown there, just as most people would recognize that the new RAM had nothing to do with the old Post Office other than residing on roughly the same footprint of the old post office. It was just to help people visualize where the rails actually ran, now that the land where they used to sit has been for the most part, reconfigured almost to the point of being unrecognizable to present day Edmontonian's.
@@steadholderharrington9035 Do you mean an unused underground station, cause if so I think you're confusing it with the tunnel that was pre-dug for the metro line before the Epcor tower went in. A rare instance of forward thinking when it comes to LRT building in the city.
@@bS7580-i9q If you go into the CN Tower itself, you'll see a part on the west side of the tower that goes downstairs. That was where the old Via Rail station used to exist, and then you'd come upstairs again on the other side along side where the Via Rail train would come up beside the north side (so many sides here) of the CN Tower. The Epcor Tower and the CN Tower have nothing to do with each other, aside from being now situated side by side. The spur line for the LRT didn't even begin construction towards the new Epcor tower until many, many decades had past after the CN Tower had been completed.
I don't know why nobody has done any GROUND PENETRATING RADAR to get a visual of the station. Obviously after 60 years you can't get in there ever again, but I'd be interested in seeing it. No more tours.
@@a.v.2491 I'm seriouse do you know how many heroin needles and crackheads I've seen downtown and near northside Edmonton? Metheads just walk up to you all the time and you got a bunch of 16 white kids who hang out with natives trying to bum smoke off everyone at public trans stations...It's not bueno.
Art probably not a fuck up most likely why its not being used today or because it connected to the underground tunnels they use to walk prisoners to court from remand there a purpose but the public in the dark
Respectfully, this is a load of nonsense. As of 2023, Edmonton has pedways and an existing ugnd 'subway' system already in use. Even if this purported ugnd transportation route exists, it has working lights and exhaust air system for you to visit???? Come on!!! This is a fake garbage video.
I never knew there was “ghost station” after so many times riding the LRT
I've known about this roughed in station since the 1980's. It's not hard to miss passing it
I had known there was a "ghost Station" there since the 80s, I had lived in Edmonton from 1980 to 2001 and have recorded it passing thru Churchill on etc etc, from inside the train, you really can't see too much going 35 kmh, but seeing it from outside the train, it adds to the location of what was going on. I have heard it was for prisoners on Remand, going on so called "prison trains" to another location, but also I have seen the original plans in the 1960s of how the original LRT system would have looked like. Who knows long term, they might have service to the Intl Airport and WEM. :D
They are expanding it to the Edmonton international airport, billion dollar project may I add.
@@AlexisTheWriter Not officially.
Phase 1: to Heritage Valley (starting soon)
Phase 2: to city limits (TBD)
Phase 3: to airport (one day maybe)
Should build it all in one phase.
They are withholding facts here. This station was going to be used to transport inmates from the old remand to the max just north of Edmonton with special armoured rail cars. This was obviously never completed.
Really? thats cool
I heard this was an urban myth. Do you have a source?
my Dad worked for the court house in the late 70's and early 80's and he told us that they did transport inmates a few times. But it was deemed unsafe for the general population, and a waste of money and besides the walking tunnel between the courthouse and the remand was already under way
There's also supposed to be built access to the CN tower as well somewhere before churchhill station . It was another idea that never made it
Was hoping for decaying Art Deco design + Ninja Turtles lair to be quite honest...
me too. what a disappointment
I’ve seen this part through the windows but never thought it was a incompleted station!
I have ride by here countless times since the LRT first started up in 1978. I always wondered what this wider section was between the tunnel entrance and the Churchill Station north Metro Line turnout. I am glad to have stumbled upon this video and have my question answered.
Question is where does someone access these stairs in the courthouse and old remand center ? I'd love to see what it looks like from the other side of those concrete walls .
There are many publicly unknown areas throughout Edmonton's lrt system that are really cool but only lrt maintenance crews know about
That Ghost station was actually developed to transport criminals from the Edmonton Remand to the Edmonton MAX (north on Manning freeway).
No.
@@levyan4718 Yes it was, It was scrapped due to lack of money, My uncle worked for ETS and was one of the first drivers to operate the LRT.
@@RoadToTheCupcould he get me into the ghost station
they have a reason to finish it when the royal Alberta museum opens
For those interested the other two planned but never built stations were to be at Railtown on the CP Right of Way between 102 and 103 Avenue and a proper MacEwan University station at 107 St and 105 Avenue... These two additions would, could and should have created a great downtown subway loop. For those wondering where the info is from? It's from the Official ETS LRT design guidelines document. It also shows a phantom station next to the downtown Convention Centre in some of the plans which would have been cool to use/see built too!
www.edmonton.ca/public-files/assets/document?path=LRT_design_guidlines_2011.pdf
Redundancy in any kind of infrastructure is a vitally important hedge against the unexpected trials and tribulations people could experience some day while living in a large city. - I first said that while not having a degree in Engineering myself too during maybe around the year 20016 or so.
I know it was intended for prisoner transport HOWEVER it should be fitted and completed as part of a rebuild of the entire block as "Edmonton Central Station" the HSR final destination in Edmonton for the Ellis-Don Prairie Link or some sort of regional rail for Edmonton. Now more than ever we should be shifting away from cars into a rail based electrically powered transport system that's 4X more efficient than cars/buses/trucks... Not to mention cleaner, quieter, etc.
Shit. I lived there 21 yrs and never once heard about this. Amazing!
They should get it in service
She said, "...ONE of Edmonton's ghost lrt stations...", so are there more?
Yes
There is one at Kingsway and another at NAIT, ETS says they will be completed sometime this year, but that's what they said last year.
@@RiceHatAhh405 Thanks for that, but I was referring to underground existing stations, not future above ground stations.
Are there other underground "ghost" stations, where the infrastructure is already in place, but isn't accessible to the public?
Two more were planned but never built although they should be... Railtown at 102/103 Ave and the CP ROW which is a park... The other station unbuilt would be a proper MacEwan University station at 107 St at 105 Avenue... These exist in the official design guidelines book for ETS LRT planning. At one time a spur line and station next to the downtown Convention Centre also looked to be planned but the Valley Line largely replaced that concept...
That nice mint green was not put on for cosmetics. It was painted so track and signal workers could locate the "Insulated Rail Joint". It is deferent from other rail joints as it stops the electrical energy from entering the next "block" aka rail.
Art Aficionados always gotta find a way to tie in everything
Pretty sure, back in the day, you saw the back of drywall, with metal studs showing.
Why doesn't the video show the plans or pictures from when it was first built?
nice video and good info
There's also a unused station that is connected to the CN tower. Not long after I moved here I worked security guarding a street access stairwell that was on the north west side of the property. Now with the epcor tower there I'm not sure if it's still around.
That unused station connected to the CN Tower used to belong to the Via-Rail company, and it was the point in Edmonton where Via Rail passengers would get on board the train there, instead of its current location along 121st Street, south of the Yellowhead. 🥲
If you take a look at Google World maps in 3D mode from about 1Km overhead, you can see how that spur line where the current station is continues southbound until you reach the Brew City Market (formally the old Molson House and Molson's brewery site) where the line starts to wrap around the corner of the cemetery there, and then proceeds eastbound towards the CN Tower. Those lands in there used to be rail yards for CN Rail (between 105Ave and 104 Ave and from 120th Street to roughly 102nd Street. That was the initial reason why Edmonton had that "Rat Hole on 109th Street between 105th Ave and underneath 104th Ave, ending at 103rd Ave. There was also an underpass on 101 Street between 105th Ave and 104th Ave as well at the time. And then the spur lines continued towards the CN Tower and the old Post Office (currently the R.A.M.), and hence the underpass still on 97th Street, which was there to allow vehicles to pass under the shared CN Rail and Via Rail Spur lines, heading further east until you hit the point where the LRT comes out of the ground, and you can still see the spacing left for the old rail lines on either side of where the LRT goes underground. From there, the old shared CN Rail and Via Rail lines paralleled the LRT tracks, all the way out past the LRT's Clairview terminus and back out to rejoin the CN Main line.
@@steadholderharrington9035 post office was completely demolished, RAM has nothing to do with it other than being on the same spot
@@levyan4718 Yes, I know that the the old downtown post office was completely demolished, and that the Royal Alberta Museum has nothing to do with the old CN Rail line and VIA Rail spur. I was alluding to where the rail line was running along and what land marks, both in the past history of the city when the rail line was there and the current present we all live in with the rail line no longer there. Most people understand that the old post office was completely demolished, including the atomic bomb shelter that was in the basement of the old Post Office sorting plant downtown there, just as most people would recognize that the new RAM had nothing to do with the old Post Office other than residing on roughly the same footprint of the old post office. It was just to help people visualize where the rails actually ran, now that the land where they used to sit has been for the most part, reconfigured almost to the point of being unrecognizable to present day Edmontonian's.
@@steadholderharrington9035 Do you mean an unused underground station, cause if so I think you're confusing it with the tunnel that was pre-dug for the metro line before the Epcor tower went in. A rare instance of forward thinking when it comes to LRT building in the city.
@@bS7580-i9q If you go into the CN Tower itself, you'll see a part on the west side of the tower that goes downstairs. That was where the old Via Rail station used to exist, and then you'd come upstairs again on the other side along side where the Via Rail train would come up beside the north side (so many sides here) of the CN Tower. The Epcor Tower and the CN Tower have nothing to do with each other, aside from being now situated side by side. The spur line for the LRT didn't even begin construction towards the new Epcor tower until many, many decades had past after the CN Tower had been completed.
what about the other sides? can you get into that are still or is it all blocked off? and the lady has guts even with a spotter
I don't know why nobody has done any GROUND PENETRATING RADAR to get a visual of the station. Obviously after 60 years you can't get in there ever again, but I'd be interested in seeing it.
No more tours.
I NEED TO KNOW, I WANNA GO NOW FRICK.
Hmmmm future sink holes to come to Edmonton near u...
I LOVE EDMONTON
You shouldn't its full of drug addicts
@@a.v.2491 I'm seriouse do you know how many heroin needles and crackheads I've seen downtown and near northside Edmonton? Metheads just walk up to you all the time and you got a bunch of 16 white kids who hang out with natives trying to bum smoke off everyone at public trans stations...It's not bueno.
Danm live here for 20 years and didn't even no lol
I did not know that I rode the LRT so many times wow
Everyone did not notice future station
Cool. :)
I swear that city is cursed, as soon as I left my life just felt better. That place sucked
Hopefully it will be an infill station soon
Its like the new ghostbusters movie🤣
Canadian ghost: boo eh
I bet for a proven fact that , the city will never use the old ghost stations at all for any reasons so just watch
Art probably not a fuck up most likely why its not being used today or because it connected to the underground tunnels they use to walk prisoners to court from remand there a purpose but the public in the dark
👍
I wonder how many millions the City wasted on this.
Arguably less than they would have spent to build it after the fact.
Doesn't look like modern art but more like brutalist architecture.
are there boring awards for videos? Cuz I give this one first prize.
Well your an asshole
its Edmonton the whole place is a horror show.
There's something really sinister about this place isn't there?
@@lamalien2276
Deadmonton?
So you talk about the ghost station but don’t actually show it . . . Smh .
Dust Fart ??? they showed it
He probably meant behind those concrete walls
😂😂😂
Waste of money as always with the clowns down at city hall.
minute 55 you can hear a man;s voice
😶😶😶😶
Respectfully, this is a load of nonsense. As of 2023, Edmonton has pedways and an existing ugnd 'subway' system already in use. Even if this purported ugnd transportation route exists, it has working lights and exhaust air system for you to visit???? Come on!!! This is a fake garbage video.