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  • Опубликовано: 8 янв 2025

Комментарии • 335

  • @wademan7180
    @wademan7180 4 года назад +38

    I’ll never get sick of hearin a good 2 stroke story 💪🏻👍🏻

    • @kentpaustell6737
      @kentpaustell6737 4 года назад +4

      I'll never get tired of hearing a good 2 stroke!!

  • @Jungleland33
    @Jungleland33 4 года назад +5

    2T is the soul of motorcycle racing.
    Somebody, for the Love of God, bring them back.

  • @IEGastaldo
    @IEGastaldo 4 года назад +1

    Man, this brings me back so many good memories from the late 70's and early 80's. There is nothing like a 2-stroke engine. Gotta love that rabid sound, and that instant gratification.

  • @markcras8508
    @markcras8508 4 года назад +3

    Im nearly 50yrs old i owned a few cr500s when i was a teenager and mates had them also and kx500 since then ive owned always bigbores i currently have kx450 and ktm 500 exc as much as i love the old 500 2strokes people who think there are faster than the new 450s are kidding themselves in saying that i still have been on the look out for a decent rolling chassis to build 1 of these myself ,the best 1 of these ive seen is a fuel injected cr500 in ktm chassis i think it was a new zealand company ,this build is a nice 1 also.

  • @peacefulwarrior4078
    @peacefulwarrior4078 4 года назад +27

    The 500 bigbore TWOSTROKES should definitely come back into production and be the PREMIER CLASS💪 AT THE OUTDOOR MOTOCROSS CHAMPIONSHIP NATIONALS !!! 👍
    #307 former open expert/pro
    87 CR-500 83 CR-480

    • @vetb882
      @vetb882 4 года назад

      yeah bro, no more of this BS twice the dispacement advantage.

  • @scottbradford4130
    @scottbradford4130 4 года назад +4

    Had a 86 XC500 back when I was a teenager.I used to bump start it when I first got it cause my 14 year old lil leg couldn't kick it for the first couple weeks. Then a random rider in the woods taught me what TDC was and I fell in love with it. No clue back then the impact that bike would have on my riding..Hahahaha Miss that bike

  • @josuemelendezortiz7330
    @josuemelendezortiz7330 4 года назад +25

    WOW two stroke the best sound 💪💪

  • @anthonycaldi7056
    @anthonycaldi7056 4 года назад

    Love the simple Black and White scheme. Really makes it stand out.

  • @theshootindutchman
    @theshootindutchman 4 года назад +172

    Dear factories: PLEEEASE make a modern 500cc two stroke, IT WILL SELL LIKE CRAZYYYY!!!😄

    • @SKUNKPROOF
      @SKUNKPROOF 4 года назад +2

      SSR can do a 07 450CRF that Honda parts fit. Bet they could make one of these. Any pre-orders? 🤣

    • @bmdbigfeet1031
      @bmdbigfeet1031 4 года назад +9

      There's only a handful of people who will buy them. The

    • @eduardosampoia5480
      @eduardosampoia5480 4 года назад +8

      You obviously live under a rock...these bikes are not any fun to ride.

    • @sarunasdidjurgis8380
      @sarunasdidjurgis8380 4 года назад +7

      MAICO is the answer. Go and buy it today.

    • @cyberpunk11x
      @cyberpunk11x 4 года назад +13

      @@eduardosampoia5480 They might be hard to ride but they are definitely fun.There is Nothing like a 2stroke engine.

  • @JasonTate86
    @JasonTate86 4 года назад +7

    God I love the hum of those big bore two strokes.

  • @kirbylapierre4231
    @kirbylapierre4231 4 года назад +1

    Love it,we want the 2 strokes back!

  • @127834
    @127834 4 года назад +2

    The unmistakable sound of a CR 😍

  • @barsaf9989
    @barsaf9989 4 года назад +50

    Love the idle. It sounds like someone hitting an empty can against a glass table lol

    • @jeffflick2573
      @jeffflick2573 4 года назад

      Two stroke hater I suppose? I think the 500cc. 2-strokes are the best off-road bikes made!

    • @barsaf9989
      @barsaf9989 4 года назад +4

      @@jeffflick2573 My comment was kind of a complement. It sounds good.

    • @jeffflick2573
      @jeffflick2573 4 года назад +1

      @@barsaf9989 I think it sounds good also. Sorry for my misunderstanding of your comment. A lot of 4-stroke riders I know & ride with often make comments about 2-strokes sound like a big garbage bag with empty beer cans being shaken profusely. I ride a older 2011 ktm-300xc 2-stroke so riding with mostly 4-stroke riders I hear alot of negative comments about 2-strokes.

    • @barsaf9989
      @barsaf9989 4 года назад +1

      @@jeffflick2573 nbd. I see how my comment can seem sarcastic. My riding buddies like both 2 and 4 stroke bikes haha. Both have advantages and disadvantages.

    • @jeffflick2573
      @jeffflick2573 4 года назад +1

      @@barsaf9989 I agree and truthfully I've owned and love both 2 & 4 strokes. I ride alot of single track in the mountains and for that I prefer a 2 stroke. My next bike will be a street & trail 500cc 4-stroke. I love to ride either one.

  • @gorn9161
    @gorn9161 4 года назад

    Watch all you want, but you must first ride upon the the beast to appreciate it. It lives for Forth/Fourth. A modern Two-Stroke 500 should just be required to have an "Auto - Fourth" Transmission.
    Zero to eighty, instantly! Just add throttle. BRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!

  • @The08450
    @The08450 4 года назад +22

    Do a full comparison to a modern 450!!!!!!!! Id love to see how it stacks up!!!!!!

    • @vetb882
      @vetb882 4 года назад +8

      It's faster but harder to ride. 2 strokes ya gotta man dafkk up. 4 chokes throw y6 further over jumps, but they don't register how fast your going into your bushing you ass, I mean all the way to the top pro levels, never mind us Amateurs.
      2 strokes SCARE the shht out of you and FORCE you to pay attention and be on your game or it will spit you on your head.
      These bikes should be able to run in the MX1 class, displacement to displacement. 250 vs 250, 450 vs 500

    • @mxgryan
      @mxgryan 4 года назад +1

      450 would thrash it

    • @Wide000
      @Wide000 4 года назад +3

      The 450 is just more rideable, smoother, more tractable, will not waste you as much and will do better consistent laptimes. Both are more capable than the vast majority of riders can handle anyway.

    • @codenamenoob4973
      @codenamenoob4973 4 года назад +5

      450s are faster but some would argue the person on the 2 stroke is having more fun 😉

    • @mxgryan
      @mxgryan 4 года назад +1

      @Tim Allen doesnt matter, you'd still get smoked by the 4T

  • @RelentlessSFi53
    @RelentlessSFi53 4 года назад +1

    So.. that Premix logo at the start of the video would make a killer T-shirt.

  • @gamboi1257
    @gamboi1257 4 года назад +23

    Finally someone who can ride a 500🤣

    • @jonmeray713
      @jonmeray713 4 года назад

      Kyler Eskildsen for how long though,im betting updated suspension and engine mounts makes it a bit better

    • @alexwilson9940
      @alexwilson9940 4 года назад

      Most 90s guys can...

  • @chrisr525
    @chrisr525 5 месяцев назад

    I watched the raw video first and actually thought it sounded like a CR engine, now i know 🤙

  • @MrTroyfinn58
    @MrTroyfinn58 4 года назад +2

    That is the most amazing build I’ve ever seen 🤤🤤🤤

  • @mountainvalleyfrost5777
    @mountainvalleyfrost5777 4 года назад +19

    Curious how it would compare to a BRC Racing KTM 500cc conversion.

  • @dr.hugog.hackenbush9443
    @dr.hugog.hackenbush9443 4 года назад +39

    Now mass produce them.
    You'll have at least a 1 year backlog.

  • @garaldao61
    @garaldao61 4 года назад +2

    Felt immediately at home - Nothing like a big bore 2 stroke MX bike - in my head I was kind of scrubbing the top of that hill -

  • @Budivedder
    @Budivedder 4 года назад +2

    Love two stroke sound👍

  • @spacejaime
    @spacejaime 4 года назад +1

    I sounds like my friend Robbie's 1973 Yamaha DT-1 360. Well, it has been 47 years and I can't recall exactly - but pretty much a similar braaaap! 😁

  • @joelfrancis5391
    @joelfrancis5391 4 года назад +33

    Give Tomac a go. He will shred that thing like its meant to be ridden

    • @hfr8343
      @hfr8343 4 года назад +8

      The dude riding it looked pretty good to me

    • @samking6941
      @samking6941 4 года назад +2

      Et cant ride a 2stroke to save his soul. And the guy riding looked like it was his first time.

    • @benashlin8845
      @benashlin8845 4 года назад +1

      Give it to Tyler Bowers. He can ride one, has his own kx500 that he rode in straight rhythm

    • @markkus1134
      @markkus1134 4 года назад +1

      ben ashlin give it to Rick Johnson!

    • @nathancrittenden8525
      @nathancrittenden8525 4 года назад +2

      @@samking6941 he rode that as smooth as fuck what you on about

  • @ridebecauseucan1944
    @ridebecauseucan1944 4 года назад +1

    That bike just sounds angry ! Awesome job !

  • @hope4surf
    @hope4surf 4 года назад +8

    BEAST BIKE!!!

  • @christ2054
    @christ2054 4 года назад

    Im new to dirt bikes and a 2-stroke of that size sound insane. (Power)

  • @bjornchristiansson2827
    @bjornchristiansson2827 4 года назад +1

    Oh now we talk 😊👌
    Like this bike bring back the 2 stroke 500cc.

  • @itchEhat
    @itchEhat 4 года назад

    That bike looks amazing! Talk about a dream bike !

  • @maxdecillo
    @maxdecillo 4 года назад +1

    Awesome bike congratulations the Team

  • @joshuaystesund7445
    @joshuaystesund7445 4 года назад +1

    Two Strokes are the premier motocross machine. It's time the manufacturers and promoters stop with this ridiculous 4stroke charade and bring the 2strokes back to racing!!

  • @ManuelMartiarena
    @ManuelMartiarena 4 года назад

    OMG, amazing machine!!!, great audio in the video to listen to that engine!!!

  • @mx500a4
    @mx500a4 4 года назад

    I've been riding dirt bikes my whole life, and I have never even ridden a 250 2 stroke, let alone a beast like that!!! Man that thing sounds sick!!!!

  • @kevinclark9176
    @kevinclark9176 4 года назад

    This was so much easier to listen to than the MXA 500 videos. This guy at least had some enthusiasm and wasn’t just reading notes off of a piece of paper.

    • @juanapalomino1669
      @juanapalomino1669 4 года назад

      3023199572gustavoadolfo moto moyadolfo adersavo esmuohoy

  • @daibennett9224
    @daibennett9224 4 года назад +1

    About time 500 cc 2strokes come back,we need them

  • @TTR66
    @TTR66 4 года назад

    Thats the real,Deal...2 Stroke...High Performance...Weapon...

  • @lisacollins6430
    @lisacollins6430 4 года назад

    I’ll would watch anything as long as Sean lipanovich is riding, dudes a beast😱

  • @enduro-parts-aus
    @enduro-parts-aus 4 года назад

    🤤🤤 looks amazing and not wrong the closer you got the better it looked , that engine was 👌🏻👌🏻

  • @TheImtoomuch
    @TheImtoomuch 4 года назад

    This bike looks beautiful and sounds nasty! I love it.

  • @kurtfosberg4457
    @kurtfosberg4457 4 года назад +1

    The mid section of the pipe doesn't look as big as a standard after market pipe but maybe just spreads the power not so hard to ride?

  • @williamfabiano543
    @williamfabiano543 4 года назад +5

    Seeing other comments, i know everyone is waiting for a rereleased 500 2 stroke. Im sure it can happen but when?

  • @Fitnessconnections4u
    @Fitnessconnections4u 4 года назад

    Sweet Bike
    You guys or MXA should get this bike & all other CR500 builds like service Honda CR500AF & The KX500 builds
    Have a open class Shootout

  • @stevenbunn5450
    @stevenbunn5450 4 года назад +3

    Would love to see Dave Thorpe ride and review this bike old school .

  • @bobg3034
    @bobg3034 4 года назад +1

    Ronny Mac's new bike!

  • @cynthiaroesner1719
    @cynthiaroesner1719 4 года назад

    Bike looks bad ass for sure

  • @jamesstewart7224
    @jamesstewart7224 4 года назад

    Top spec. Love that Low boy cone pipe starter motor in there.looks the dogs bollox 👌nice

  • @pnwripping6636
    @pnwripping6636 4 года назад +53

    She needs a shorter silencer

    • @vetb882
      @vetb882 4 года назад

      Nope, that adds MORE low end, that long assed beeyotch is to extend the powerband into the upper ranges.

  • @glahut93
    @glahut93 4 года назад +1

    Love to see Tomac race it

  • @aventurascomjoaocesar7044
    @aventurascomjoaocesar7044 4 года назад +1

    🔴😁✊👊✊ I♥️2 STROKES 💨💨

  • @wtfftw24
    @wtfftw24 4 года назад +1

    Woooooooooow!! I love it!!

  • @shanegannon9579
    @shanegannon9579 4 года назад +27

    Make one on production line and see how fast they sell🤔😂 sell like hot cakes

  • @barrycampion9679
    @barrycampion9679 4 года назад +5

    Rode my first 500 2 smoke when I was around 15 years old, couldn't kick it over 😂😂😂

  • @crispincurtis8585
    @crispincurtis8585 4 года назад

    Sweet ride

  • @Nostrildomus
    @Nostrildomus 4 года назад

    Wow , just like Malcom .

  • @stringbender247
    @stringbender247 3 года назад

    If you build it they will come! I will buy a modern 500 two stroke right now. I agree with comments below, these will sell. Modern riders aren't intimidated by big bore bikes anymore.

  • @spacejaime
    @spacejaime 4 года назад +1

    What year is this CR-500 engine? It's important because Honda started de-tuning this motor after 1986....to the best of my recollection.

  • @sciencemilitia1853
    @sciencemilitia1853 4 года назад

    2 strokes and KYB ftw

  • @Steezy_Mx
    @Steezy_Mx 4 года назад

    It only makes sense to push the limits of riding even further and add a 500cc class.

  • @jacko6231
    @jacko6231 4 года назад

    Dream bike 👌

  • @BlackWolf-ly4sq
    @BlackWolf-ly4sq 4 года назад +1

    I really do miss the sound of that big cr500cc two stroke engine

  • @jdirt1982
    @jdirt1982 4 года назад +23

    Does it take glock mags ????

    • @doublefeed732
      @doublefeed732 4 года назад +3

      Joe Dirt This is why your parents deserted you at the Grand Canyon

    • @goodboyringo9716
      @goodboyringo9716 4 года назад +2

      No , it takes 460 Rowland mags.

    • @FixItStupid
      @FixItStupid 4 года назад

      @@goodboyringo9716 Right

  • @TS50ER
    @TS50ER 4 года назад +10

    It sounds like it's running on one cylinder.

  • @akbarasyakur2243
    @akbarasyakur2243 4 года назад

    I like this motocycle,and i hope i have this motocycle😍

  • @tooltime5661
    @tooltime5661 4 года назад

    Put a Husky 500cc motor, have him tweak it,road a older husky 500,front end wouldn't stay on the ground, from low end right across the power band was incredibly smooth, was a rocket!

  • @bougie2k
    @bougie2k 4 года назад

    nice project .... but i think the BRC engine with balance shaft is better less vibration

  • @purebloodheretic4682
    @purebloodheretic4682 4 года назад +1

    Mate, I'd love to see a KX500 in a '90's KX250 Steel Perimeter Frame, Never seen 1 done, I do Believe the Late Great Aussie Andrew McFarlane, had a Custom Built Perimeter Frame 'Factory' KX500 G.P. Built for him to Compete in the 500 MX World Championship, I always wondered why didn't Kawasaki Upgrade their Awesome Powerhouse 500 with the Awesome 250 Steel Perimeter Frame, Kawasaki was 10yrs Ahead of the Game with the Perimeter Frame Design, It Instantly made the Opposition Bikes Look Dated Overnight when the 1990 KX250 was Launched, I owned a '91 Model 'Green Meanie' with Blue Anodised USD Forks, It Looked Bad-Ass then as it Still does Today Imho!! -Cheers 😉👍🇦🇺

    • @heikkiuusi-rauva45
      @heikkiuusi-rauva45 4 года назад

      Carlos Tasty-Weiner Dave Thorpe rode for Kawasaki factory team in 1990,and he had a perimeter-framed factory 500.If I remember right,he got hurt in the pre-season race.

    • @heikkiuusi-rauva45
      @heikkiuusi-rauva45 4 года назад

      Yeah,if you Google Dave Thorpe Kawasaki theres some pics of that bike.

    • @purebloodheretic4682
      @purebloodheretic4682 4 года назад

      @@heikkiuusi-rauva45 Wow! Great Info- You learn something new everyday!! -I didn't even know Dave rode for Kawasaki, I remember seeing lots of photos riding his HRC Honda CR500, I'll go Check it out! -Cheers👍😉

    • @dr.hugog.hackenbush9443
      @dr.hugog.hackenbush9443 4 года назад

      Pro-Circut or FMF made one in the early '90s as a test mule.

  • @geraldestes2470
    @geraldestes2470 4 года назад

    > thnx daisy/hi torque; from the air cooled twin shock league...back in the day special coating(s) were liberally applied '@ the track' using the 'this old maico' formula - ride the motor bike till its warm enough to 'ping' as it cools, scrap off any glop best you can with whatever shop oil clothes you got and then douse it with wd-40 from a hand pumped insect sprayer; results in the slickest husky youll ever own. pressure wash (only) your riding duds (preferably with 'soap' on the cement pad back @ the homestead), good to go, i'd fix only the 'powerband' the 2020 offering.

  • @goroost777
    @goroost777 4 года назад

    Mark you need to bring that bike to the d37 grand prix series and race it

  • @antoniopalmagarcia5325
    @antoniopalmagarcia5325 4 года назад +1

    Hermosa la moto algún dia primero Dios

  • @chrisvozza6530
    @chrisvozza6530 4 года назад

    Beautiful 😍😍

  • @thelowe6393
    @thelowe6393 4 года назад +1

    Always loved the smell of bean oil!

  • @toddjacobs5660
    @toddjacobs5660 4 года назад

    Cant beat a CR500 , i think are the best big bore 2 stroke

  • @alghi9524
    @alghi9524 4 года назад +1

    2stroke is my favorit motocross

  • @mxgryan
    @mxgryan 4 года назад

    So fire

  • @williamrodriguez921
    @williamrodriguez921 4 года назад

    I 💓 This Sound

  • @vetb882
    @vetb882 4 года назад

    Duuude. My dkkk just got hard.. 😳 fahk I miss my KX500 daze. 😎👍🏾
    Beastly brass balls BRAAAAP

  • @wilfredoe.zaragozajr.6527
    @wilfredoe.zaragozajr.6527 4 года назад

    2stroke fav never fade. ❤️❤️❤️
    Gift please 😍😇

  • @fkhan577
    @fkhan577 4 года назад +9

    450 fart stroke: this is what Moto sounds like
    Big bore 2 stroke: hold my premix fuel tank ..

  • @jedielder7970
    @jedielder7970 4 года назад

    How fast does it climb the big hills of Glenn Helen Raceway, or your usual test track, compared to a modern day 450 4 stroke? BTW, I used to ride the 1990's versions of CR500 and they were beasts! At the time, I preferred the CR250's. However, a modern one might be tempting.

  • @SKUNKPROOF
    @SKUNKPROOF 4 года назад

    I was thinking this the other day only no electric start, 85 or 86 motor and an eye on weight. 60+ hp and a sub 200 lbs. A handful to be sure. 😛

  • @100ccSuperRat
    @100ccSuperRat 4 года назад

    I would buy it for the sound alone

  • @nalatreborrenoclaf9648
    @nalatreborrenoclaf9648 4 года назад

    Alan milyard should make a 1000 cc v2 combining 2 cr 500s he's a genius.

  • @TimTheMusicMan
    @TimTheMusicMan 4 года назад

    Is it for sale ? Where does it go from here?

  • @brunometzengo4944
    @brunometzengo4944 4 года назад

    Супер 👍✌️🤙🤟

  • @lancecowburn1693
    @lancecowburn1693 4 года назад

    That is FUCKING PERFECT!

  • @terrelmchenry9524
    @terrelmchenry9524 4 года назад

    I'D BUY IT.

  • @creedkisling233
    @creedkisling233 4 года назад

    Very cool

  • @crispincurtis8585
    @crispincurtis8585 4 года назад

    How many Volts does that engine run on,, is it 3 phase?

  • @arsi.filmbluryah3038
    @arsi.filmbluryah3038 4 года назад

    Badass bike

  • @Corteum
    @Corteum 3 года назад

    What horsepower is this putting out?

  • @gregbencze2896
    @gregbencze2896 4 года назад +1

    He must be scared of it. Used to ridding a four stoke. Hammer that thing wtf

  • @johnbomenka6131
    @johnbomenka6131 4 года назад

    Is it Carbureted ??

  • @kirkdunn1379
    @kirkdunn1379 4 года назад

    Its a so cal or baja desert bike....I grew up on 500s but have no place on a track.....they need the dez.....where they can open up

  • @mengullojushuas.5598
    @mengullojushuas.5598 4 года назад

    could you make an ATK intimidator 700cc dirt bike build

  • @josephharrison4993
    @josephharrison4993 4 года назад

    Nice never roda a 500 ,once flipped a rm 250 lol

  • @racefanwfo
    @racefanwfo 4 года назад +11

    I had a service honda 500 and i could start it wearing tennis shoes on the first kick.

    • @greensocks4507
      @greensocks4507 4 года назад +9

      Yeah but if your foot slips off or it backfires the kick starter could rip a hole in your calf as it flicks back up. Happened to me with my KX 500. Trip to emergency and 12 stitches thanks very much.

    • @honda8192
      @honda8192 4 года назад +1

      Green socks starting my built 04’ CR250R my foot slipped off and it came back up and took a chunk out of my shin bone. I always wear a moto boot to start it now lol.

    • @kdcustoms1272
      @kdcustoms1272 4 года назад +2

      @@honda8192 ouch... Why are you guys starting your bikes in socks? 😆

    • @jonmeray713
      @jonmeray713 4 года назад

      KD Customs what a damn fool lmao.

    • @kraigvanderwyk1153
      @kraigvanderwyk1153 4 года назад

      Later generations of cr500’s had little dimples just below the exhaust port to make starting easier. After a couple rebuilds when it’s time for a bore, starts get a little harder, but noticeable more power.

  • @mylifeissofuckedup8821
    @mylifeissofuckedup8821 4 года назад

    Hi DirtMag does Jonny Weisman has a You tube page? please Let us know his built are outrageous...Give us a link. please....

  • @adambatchelder4121
    @adambatchelder4121 4 года назад

    Wow check our BRC out of candida they build modern 500cc engines with counter balancers based on a KTM transmission

  • @mt1885
    @mt1885 4 года назад +5

    *30+ year old CR500 engine come on guys*

    • @vetb882
      @vetb882 4 года назад +3

      Still faster than the 4chokes...

    • @Sleepy.Time.
      @Sleepy.Time. 4 года назад +2

      you gonna next snivel about fast cars using a LS-1 engine? 30 years ago engineers knew how to do their jobs and the only thing a CR500 engine could use is a counter balancer for vibration

    • @maverick2242
      @maverick2242 4 года назад +1

      Would have been good to see a BRP engine build in this bike, since he’s an ex Factory mechanic, why wouldn’t you go with a BRP setup.

    • @Sleepy.Time.
      @Sleepy.Time. 4 года назад

      @@maverick2242 The BRP kit's cost if you do not already own a KTM 2 stroke puts it well into the $15,000 range if you have to buy a new KTM 250 and the kit on top of that. Finding a blown up KTM fourstroke and a used 500cc engine is much more realistic and just as fast or faster.

    • @maverick2242
      @maverick2242 4 года назад +2

      Sleepy .Time dude, I realise that, did you watch the vid? it’s a 2016 TC 450 which is a white KTM, he’s a Factory mechanic, they said in the vid the engine had all the bells and whistles (though they didn’t tell us other than superficial stuff like pipe etc) so from that I deduce money is no object, be more expensive to cut a frame fit a Cr500 engine, get the geo right and then add all the bells and whistles to the engine, that’s not cheap or easy, it’s already a donor bike ready hence why I replied to the original comment it would have been good to see a BRP kit, why I also didn’t comment on the main section as no disrespect to the build, but if you have a TC 450 already why wouldn’t you go that way, though they are hard to get, understand they’re is a long waiting list to meet demand.
      This market never went away the Japanese turned there backs on us, they wanted us to buy into there 4t bs, I have owned and raced both, like bith for different reasons, but the BS around 2 stroke by 4t media and manufactures is just that BS. demand is still there. I’m loving the content, though don’t get this name or renaming seems a bit indulgent.