One thing about the velgrmon ruling, on deletion inherited effect only need the digimon that was deleted to be in trash to activate, they will still activate even if they are removed
Oh really!? I was not aware of this. I was fairly certain that the card bearing the on-deletion effect (in this case the inheritance card itself) needed to be in the trash for it to resolve. I'll pin this comment to get some input from others to double check me on this one!
@@East_ML yeah, as they said, all the "on deletion" effects are part of the top card of the Digimon even if they are written on another card, so the Koichi mentioned on 3:28 will still trigger as long as an effect does not remove the Velgra from trash. This is also why if you use Onmimon Mercyfull to delete and return ONLY the top card (among others), then no On Deletion effect will trigger from that stack
@@East_ML Its true, I remember this ruling from digimon with save and on deletion inherits. If you activate save first, you don't get to activate the inherit since the the digimon with the inherit isn't present in trash to activate the inherit.
Inherits are always considered to be an effect of the topmost digimon, even when they've gone to the trash on deletion It doesn't matter where the source goes during effect resolution & sequencing as long as the top card is in the trash to resolve the remaining On Deletion effects as they're considered to be that cards effect
That Beemon ruling is the most common question ppl have been asking lately, glad it was the first thing covered. Also, that Red Hybrid ruling sounds like a Speedrun strat lol great stuff
A ruling I think is pretty interesting is that Velgramons "[End of Attack] By deleting 1 level 4 or lower purple Digimon, delete all of your opponent's Digimon with the lowest level." it does not need to be your own purple Digimon. I know it only comes up when facing another deck with purple lvl4 and lower, but still interesting.
With end of turn in mind. Is the same with start of turn. I give multiple digimon on board "start of turn this digimon attacks" end my turn. Opponent start of turn, chose one digimon attacks and all the other dont. Since the time for start of turn has passed?
I believe the ruling goes that one digimon will attack at the start of the main phase, and then once "when attacking" effects have processed, the other "start of the main phase" effects will attempt to resolve, but because an attack is currently happening they cannot resolve and will not attack. This is mainly because multiple attacks can't happen at the same time, so you're right, but not because the start of main phase passed.
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Congrats! Also yeah, what my mans up there said, what deck did you run with? It always feels great to go far with a deck you really love.
Also i'm so confused about CannonBeemon's de-digivolving, people saying it only de-digivolve only 1 Digimon but Lordknightmon with the exact same text can dedigivolve multiple ones without a problem, so what's wrong?
To my knowledge, these are the same. Lordknightmon X cannot choose different targets. I'm pretty sure it also mentions this in the official websites card rules q&a: world.digimoncard.com/rule/#qaResult_card Just search for Lordknightmon and you'll see it.
I'm a casual who has barely played the game, but is the Royal Base thing really that big a deal? And, if it is a big deal, do cards that shuffle security come up often enough for it to be a serious concern anyways? From what I can tell, you can still add face-ups to your security with the deck, so you can get the effects back, probably by your next turn anyways, and more security means more protection. I can see it's certainly not perfect, but if it was perfect, it would probably be nerfed in the next ruling update anyways, probably even more harshly.
I think you hit the nail on the head. forcing a security shuffle is definitely a way to fight against the deck, but they certainly don't fold off of it. It does seem like Bandai is going to be printing more cards that function when face up in security, (no only in Royal Base, we've also seem some "field spell" type cards coming in the next set that are placed face-up in security as well) so more ways to force security shuffle could be coming after that too.
If I just played the Takuya and Koji and digivoled on top, could I still use the inheritable to attack or would it have summoning sickness? Additionally would the ancientgreymon be deleted on my opponents turn?
It would be deleted during your opponents turn. It specifically states during the end of your turn. As a result it won’t. As for the summoning sickness, it is still affected by it. That is something that was ruled with Hybrids when they first came out. It doesn’t have rush so it cannot.
Yeah the TakuKoji couldn't attack, because it was played that turn, unless you found a way to give it rush. For example the new Gigasmon could let you do that.
2:34 what about in Gammamon's Lv5 effects? When i was using Gammamon i deleted my Regulusmon using GulusGammamon's end of attack & when i tried to use 2 GulusGammamon's on deletion under it (play 2 free Gammamons) to wipe his field and to use 2 Gammas my opponent said NOPE! that effect doesn't work because my Lv5 must have digivolution sources to activate on deletion, but the on deletion activates in the trash so any on deletion under it doesn't work so i lost my Digimon for nothing...
I'm still confused abput takuya and koji interaction. I get that you don't get deleted becsuse the trigger condition has alreasy passed. But shouldn't it get deleted once it reaches the same trigger condition (end of opponent's turn). That's how any other tcg i've played would work and i don't understand why it does not here
No because the effect only states "at the end of the[This] turn". So the effect is only active for the current turn and won't be present for following turns.
Wait so you just keep the ancientGrey for the rest of the match? That is kind awesome if that is the case I'll need to pull that out in my kitchen table matches lol
Yeah, you can now get an idea of lead times for my videos 🤣 Also I messed with a couple of weapons. I will say, the new mechanics on Bow are pretty awesome. You can just stick a bunch of trackers on an opponent and then when you dragonshot a bunch of arrows, they all just home on the enemy trackers. It's such a satisfying payoff visually and the damage!
If you know how bt-3 Davis Motomiya works, is similar to that card: if the tamer has 2 colors, declare which color will represent to put under susanoo.
For Kimeramon, does machinedramon HAVE to be on the field to trigger DNA or could i have it in the trash and delete my kimera with calling from darkness?
If I were to attach an X antibody to a wargrowlmon, use trinity burst and passes turn, attack due to trinity burst effect and evolve into the upcoming SEC dukemon X, and give it blitz using takato and it restands due to not having deleted anything, can it blitz to end game?
Takato gives [When Digivolving] Blitz so pretty sure it won't work since you either unsuspend on digivolve (you're still in the middle of an attack so you can't declare a second attack) or during end of attack (you already missed the timing)
Need to point at that the kimeramon bt18 has the wrong deletion effect, and it needs to be errated to do the effect you have to dna with a machinedramon on the field and one kimermon in trash .
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One thing about the velgrmon ruling, on deletion inherited effect only need the digimon that was deleted to be in trash to activate, they will still activate even if they are removed
Oh really!? I was not aware of this. I was fairly certain that the card bearing the on-deletion effect (in this case the inheritance card itself) needed to be in the trash for it to resolve. I'll pin this comment to get some input from others to double check me on this one!
@@East_ML yeah, as they said, all the "on deletion" effects are part of the top card of the Digimon even if they are written on another card, so the Koichi mentioned on 3:28 will still trigger as long as an effect does not remove the Velgra from trash. This is also why if you use Onmimon Mercyfull to delete and return ONLY the top card (among others), then no On Deletion effect will trigger from that stack
@@East_ML Its true, I remember this ruling from digimon with save and on deletion inherits. If you activate save first, you don't get to activate the inherit since the the digimon with the inherit isn't present in trash to activate the inherit.
Inherits are always considered to be an effect of the topmost digimon, even when they've gone to the trash on deletion
It doesn't matter where the source goes during effect resolution & sequencing as long as the top card is in the trash to resolve the remaining On Deletion effects as they're considered to be that cards effect
@East_ML. Can verify the statements above about the on deletion topic!👍
That Beemon ruling is the most common question ppl have been asking lately, glad it was the first thing covered.
Also, that Red Hybrid ruling sounds like a Speedrun strat lol great stuff
It absolutely is. RedHybrid can do some insane stuff now!
That last one is so interesting and useful to know.
Knowledge is power, hell yeah.
A ruling I think is pretty interesting is that Velgramons "[End of Attack] By deleting 1 level 4 or lower purple Digimon, delete all of your opponent's Digimon with the lowest level." it does not need to be your own purple Digimon. I know it only comes up when facing another deck with purple lvl4 and lower, but still interesting.
You can also turn 1 of your opponents Digimon purple with duskmon to create those conditions for velgrmon
Holy crap, I did not even think about this. This is GODLIKE LMAO. I want to do this now!
Didn’t even occur to me that you could attack with Lucemon larva. Nice
Also an interesting side note to Luecemon Larva, it basically makes your whole field immune to being deleted by DP reduction
THANK GOD. Yellow really been out here shooting with impunity for TOO LONG lol
So end of turn is the equivalent to "At the beginning of your end step"
Great way to think about it!
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With end of turn in mind. Is the same with start of turn. I give multiple digimon on board "start of turn this digimon attacks" end my turn. Opponent start of turn, chose one digimon attacks and all the other dont. Since the time for start of turn has passed?
I believe the ruling goes that one digimon will attack at the start of the main phase, and then once "when attacking" effects have processed, the other "start of the main phase" effects will attempt to resolve, but because an attack is currently happening they cannot resolve and will not attack. This is mainly because multiple attacks can't happen at the same time, so you're right, but not because the start of main phase passed.
@ aahhh now i get it, awesome! Thanks for the reply👍
Hey East I got 2nd place in a ex7 regional (the last one) with my pet deck.
Hoping you get good tourney luck and a cool omni too!
@@baritonetenor nice what deck?
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Congrats! Also yeah, what my mans up there said, what deck did you run with? It always feels great to go far with a deck you really love.
Also i'm so confused about CannonBeemon's de-digivolving, people saying it only de-digivolve only 1 Digimon
but Lordknightmon with the exact same text can dedigivolve multiple ones without a problem, so what's wrong?
To my knowledge, these are the same. Lordknightmon X cannot choose different targets. I'm pretty sure it also mentions this in the official websites card rules q&a: world.digimoncard.com/rule/#qaResult_card Just search for Lordknightmon and you'll see it.
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Damn didnt know the royal base ruling, ,curse you game mchanics 😂
I'm a casual who has barely played the game, but is the Royal Base thing really that big a deal? And, if it is a big deal, do cards that shuffle security come up often enough for it to be a serious concern anyways?
From what I can tell, you can still add face-ups to your security with the deck, so you can get the effects back, probably by your next turn anyways, and more security means more protection. I can see it's certainly not perfect, but if it was perfect, it would probably be nerfed in the next ruling update anyways, probably even more harshly.
I think you hit the nail on the head. forcing a security shuffle is definitely a way to fight against the deck, but they certainly don't fold off of it. It does seem like Bandai is going to be printing more cards that function when face up in security, (no only in Royal Base, we've also seem some "field spell" type cards coming in the next set that are placed face-up in security as well) so more ways to force security shuffle could be coming after that too.
If I just played the Takuya and Koji and digivoled on top, could I still use the inheritable to attack or would it have summoning sickness? Additionally would the ancientgreymon be deleted on my opponents turn?
It would be deleted during your opponents turn. It specifically states during the end of your turn. As a result it won’t.
As for the summoning sickness, it is still affected by it. That is something that was ruled with Hybrids when they first came out. It doesn’t have rush so it cannot.
Yeah the TakuKoji couldn't attack, because it was played that turn, unless you found a way to give it rush. For example the new Gigasmon could let you do that.
2:34 what about in Gammamon's Lv5 effects?
When i was using Gammamon i deleted my Regulusmon using GulusGammamon's end of attack & when i tried to use 2 GulusGammamon's on deletion under it (play 2 free Gammamons) to wipe his field and to use 2 Gammas
my opponent said NOPE! that effect doesn't work because my Lv5 must have digivolution sources to activate on deletion, but the on deletion activates in the trash so any on deletion under it doesn't work
so i lost my Digimon for nothing...
I don't actually know the ruling here, can anyone help out?
I'm still confused abput takuya and koji interaction. I get that you don't get deleted becsuse the trigger condition has alreasy passed. But shouldn't it get deleted once it reaches the same trigger condition (end of opponent's turn).
That's how any other tcg i've played would work and i don't understand why it does not here
No because the effect only states "at the end of the[This] turn". So the effect is only active for the current turn and won't be present for following turns.
Wait so you just keep the ancientGrey for the rest of the match? That is kind awesome if that is the case I'll need to pull that out in my kitchen table matches lol
Yep, you just get to keep them! AncientGreymon and AncientGarurumon just casually sidestepping death lol
Woah so that also Applies to AncientGarurumon so it will stay in play
Yuuuuuuuuup!
Wait did wild beta already finis a week ago? Also what your main wepon in wild beta switch axe, charge blead, longsword??
Yeah, you can now get an idea of lead times for my videos 🤣 Also I messed with a couple of weapons. I will say, the new mechanics on Bow are pretty awesome. You can just stick a bunch of trackers on an opponent and then when you dragonshot a bunch of arrows, they all just home on the enemy trackers. It's such a satisfying payoff visually and the damage!
What this digimon discord you spoke about i would like to join
Link to Digimon TCG server: discord.gg/jbakyfEr
Link to my server is in the video description!
The actual question about larva is...if i attack with it for game....does it win?
That's actually a pretty interesting question 😂
Yes! Even with 0DP, it still checks a security, which means it can close the game!
I have some doubts with how lord of devastation and rebirth work with tamers's colour
If you know how bt-3 Davis Motomiya works, is similar to that card: if the tamer has 2 colors, declare which color will represent to put under susanoo.
@@nicolasmartinez1317 So you can put 2 Takuya and Koji
@@drake2454 yeah, one represents red, the other represents yellow
For Kimeramon, does machinedramon HAVE to be on the field to trigger DNA or could i have it in the trash and delete my kimera with calling from darkness?
Yes, the machinedramon need to be in the field
If I were to attach an X antibody to a wargrowlmon, use trinity burst and passes turn, attack due to trinity burst effect and evolve into the upcoming SEC dukemon X, and give it blitz using takato and it restands due to not having deleted anything, can it blitz to end game?
Takato gives [When Digivolving] Blitz so pretty sure it won't work since you either unsuspend on digivolve (you're still in the middle of an attack so you can't declare a second attack) or during end of attack (you already missed the timing)
Need to point at that the kimeramon bt18 has the wrong deletion effect, and it needs to be errated to do the effect you have to dna with a machinedramon on the field and one kimermon in trash .