Amazing! - Genesis - The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway - Analogue Productions Atlantic 75 45rpm vs OG
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- Опубликовано: 2 фев 2024
- After a very excited wait, I have been listening to the brand new Analogue Productions Atlantic 75 series The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway. This absolutely superb new Chris Bellman all-analogue cut from the original master tapes is presented on 4x45rpm LPs and pressed at the world's number one (in my opinion) pressing plant: QRP.
The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway was one of the first few albums I bought, around 44 years ago in 1980. How good is this new cut? I compare the new Analogue Productions release to both my 1974 UK original and 1980 UK "Porky Prime Cut".
I purchased my copy direct from Acoustic Sounds at: store.acousticsounds.com/d/17...
The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway is my favorite album, period. It IS a musical movie. After decades of only listening to the music and ignoring the lyrics, I decided during the Covid lockdown to try and figure out what the heck Gabriel was trying to say with his crazy story line.
Peter's liner notes only re-tell his story and say nothing of its meaning. As with most artists, Peter is loath to tell us what his art means. That is our job as the listener. I have searched but found almost nothing that looks at the album's meaning. Not even the book 'Genesis and The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway' by Professor Kevin Holm-Hudson. He also simply re-tells the story with no attempt at its meaning.
I finally put all the pieces together, after coming back with new revelations over the past couple of years. In fact, I just finished an essay on the subject and would be happy to share it, if you think you'd like to read it. I can email a PDF.
Thanks for your review. I just got my copy of the 45prm re-issue and am excited to listen to it. Glad you wife has seen the light! (or is it a train?)
Hi, I've not read Prof Holm-Hudson's book, nor anyone else's reading of the story to be honest. I like that art can be interpreted however the viewer / listener takes it. Rather than having it rigidly dictated etc.
Not sure if I mentioned it in the video but I wrote a pastiche of the story for my O-Level English examination.
@@DaveDenyer Interesting. I don't believe you mentioned your exam. Not being English, I have only a basic understanding of your education system. But I like that you used this subject. I love hearing other's views, particularly regarding 'The Lamb' album. Most people simply see it as an amusing fantasy with great music, but I think Gabriel was going for much more with his lyrics. Wish I could discuss it with him, but that will never happen. It seems impossible to even get in touch with him for sending a fan letter. LOL
Glad to hear you have given this the 10/10. Mine can’t be far away I guess - takes a while to get over to Australia. It’s a magic time for old Genesis fans 😊
"Hang on John" your Lamb will be with you soon! - sorry, could resist! ;-)
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I just visited a friend in the US. He was playing endless 80s-90s AOR on his device when suddenly the carpet crawlers came on. Turns Out it's his favourite song. He added that Lamb was his and his dads(80 ) go to album and they would sit on the porch listening to it. He then produced an acoustic sounds box with this new pressing in! The box itself was the sturdiess mailing box I have ever seen ( should any of your listeners order direct from acoustic sounds!).
When I got home and played it I couldn't stop.Played it through twice.mesmerising. just like you said Dave,it was a movie. Then I reflected that I have not listened to an album all the way through for a long long time. Masterpiece and you caught the zeitgeist of the album brilliantly
Brilliant. Thanks for sharing this Roger. I like your point about listening to whole albums. This one (despite being a double) makes it a joyous necessity!
Still have my original copy signed by Peter at his home in Woolley beneath Solsbury Hill near Bath in 1977. I’m sure it sounds great but in reality 45rpm pressings are a pain for sitting down to relax to, constantly up and down to turn it over!
Oooo nice, I can't say I'm not envious of your PG signed copy. I do totally know what you mean about 45rpm LPs and all the jumping up and down, it completely put me off them until very recently: I honestly have to say I think it was the Selling England 2x45rpm release that finally convinced me this is a "lame" excuse, obviously unless you are lame, then it's a bloody good excuse! ;-)
That looks like a great package. This is and has been one of my favorite albums since I first heard it at about 15. It was always a great listen, but when I got the Rhino Records remaster several years ago, it was a revelation. The remaster is so much better than the original pressing, it’s not even close.
Thanks for your comment Zachary.
Got my copy at my 14th birthday in 1979. Been loving it ever since❤ (well actually from listening to my older cousin's album before I whished for it myself 😊)
Really enjoyed this video. I'm not an audiophile myself, but since you shared great thoughts about the superior music and concept as well...
Glad you enjoyed the video, and thanks for your comments!
Excellent review. Thanks Dave!
My pleasure Tony! Thanks for the feedback.
Great stuff as always! Would love a Genesis themed video for sure. Greetings from Norway. Bought the two Atlantic 75 titles based on your review and super happy with them. Great channel.
Hi Espen, glad you enjoyed the video, I note your vote for a Genesis video. I do feel the urge coming on... 🙂
Give in to the urge Dave@@DaveDenyer 😂
Just a slight correction, if you'll allow me, my friend. The original label for Nursery Cryme was actually the shocking pink scroll label... same as Trespass. The madhatter only started on subsequent pressings of NC and then 1st pressings of Foxtrot onwards etc
Cheers
Correction welcomed - and well spotted! That just a slip of the tongue. I do actually have two copies of NC on the pink scroll label.
Hi Dave. I’m from France and i’m a big Genesis fan since 77. Following your video, i bought « selling… » Atlantic version What a slap in the face 😮and now i just bought « the Lamb » and can’t wait to listen to it. I have the first French pressing and a Japanese version so i can compare thank you for yours videos
Hi there, so glad you're enjoying your Selling England, and am certain The Lamb will blow your mind! Thanks for the responding.
Good review - I really like my copy of the Analogue Productions one, too. I worked in a record shop back then and bought 'The Lamb' the day it came out (no longer have that LP, alas) and saw then perform it in Berkeley, CA in 1975.
Also saw The Musical Box perform it using Genesis' original slides and costumes.
I know that at one point long ago they were in talks with filmmaker Alejandro Jadorowski ('El Top') about filming it, but that got nowhere.
I've got loads of great Genesis photos, with and without Peter, but unfortunately none of the Lamb show (some great ones from the Foxtrot tour in '73, though!).
Thanks for the feedback - I'd love to see some of those photos!
@@DaveDenyer As Larsman pointed out, you HAVE to go see The Musical Box. They tour all over Europe and NA. I've seen them several times since like 1999 and they're incredible. What they do is recreate the various tours that the band did using the actual scenery and costumes with vintage instruments (mostly). Last year, they took on Lamb and I went to see them. It was simply incredible. Phil Collins has been quoted as saying that the drummer plays the tunes better than he did!
Hi Dave - I'd love to show them to you. I'm currently working on a website for showing my 70's concert photos and it should be done in a few weeks; I'll keep you posted!
Just saw them in San Francisco in December! Omg! They were incredible!! Highly recommended!!
Hey Bruce - I live in San Francisco! But I haven't seen MB in 6 or 7 years, probably. Their show that really blew me away was the 'Foxtrot' tour one, because they played my college gym in Rochester, NY in Spring of '73 on that tour; lotsa great pix, too!
Fantastic stuff Dave,been enjoying your videos immensely.
I have the German Og and Uk Og , both magnificent.
The new AP smashes them both.Amazing package 👍
Thanks Liam, glad you’re enjoying my videos. Thanks for the feedback.
This is my all time favourite album & I have this AP Atlantic 75 version on order. I don’t have a UK original vinyl version but do have an early repress from 1975 on the “Small Hatter Label.” The dead wax on Side A is etched CGS101 A//4 A PORKY PRIME CUT so it would appear that the same plates were used on the blue label 1980 repress which you have. Like you I have not experienced any humming on my pressing but I do not think the sound is the greatest on the tracks closest to the centre. Hopefully this latest version remedies the problem I have and if the SEBTP & Face Value are anything to go by this will be a real treat.
Thanks again for another first class review.
That’s really interesting Ian. Thanks for the feedback.
If you get a graphic equalizer like an emb it has 180 degrees flip phase you can inject a 50 hertz out of phase signal and it will cancel out the hum, you could use a app as well do the some things
Thanks for sharing
Interesting observation about the hum on the original. You've got me checking the run-out grooves on my several copies! I haven't got this new 45rpm version though.
Hi David, the hum is most obvious right at the opening of the title track...
They did a wonderful job on this release ( par for the course for this series now ) it’s really opened up the listening experience for me, even the albums lesser moments still sound very compelling and I’ve enjoyed it immensely. I would be interested in you doing a run down of your favourite albums by artist…cheers
Glad you’re enjoying it as much as I am Barrie. Thanks for the feedback. 👍
Such a cool album. I have a Japanese pressing from like 1978 that I enjoy greatly. I also have a US 1st, but haven't played it in a long time (over 10 years). I seem to remember it being solid. I found half a UK 2nd in a dollar bin here in the US. Disc 1 only, so hence why it was in the aforementioned dollar bin. But Disc 1 was clean, and I remember it besting the Japanese pressing. Cutting cut off in the middle of the album was a bummer, haha. I need to compare my 2.5 copies.
I knew a guy who was a massive Genesis fan during their classic run with Gabriel. He mentioned how he eagerly anticipated the release of Lamb and was actually disappointed when he first heard it. However, he reappraised it and ended up ranking it among his all-time favorites along with their prior four studio albums. Selling England was his favorite album by anyone.
Do I NEED another copy? No. But am I extremely intrigued? Oh yeah.
Hi John, honestly, unless you're not keen on The Lamb (I do know a few Genesis fans who aren't) then I think this is an essential purchase.
Cheers! Thanks Dave, Right On Mate!
Thanks for the feedback David!
I really really want this one it's my favourite album of all time..... but i don't have money
I really hope Peter, that one day one comes your way. 🙏
Dave, I think the broadway melody of 41 may have been by Charles king(1929). I guess you also spotted the otherv2 lifts. The searchers "needle and pins" from 1964,and the lift from the stones song "its only rock n roll but I like it(1974). Peter was quick off the mark lifting that riff ,or did he get there before the stones? Would love to hear a genesis retrospective from you. I lost interest after trick of the trail but maybe I missed out on some gems??? Also, there's the solo works of banks and Hackett.. could you include? I heard that Brand X explored some jazzy territory too
Thanks for the feedback Roger, well found; but I'm not sure that is the song I was thinking of. It was a long time ago and maybe my mind is playing tricks on me. I've since gone through about 80% of my 78 collection and it isn't there... I've still the last 20% to check at which point I'll conclude I'm going mad! ;-)
Great review. Regarding the original pressing - I bought it on day of release. It skipped on Back in NYC. There was quite a furore about this at the time and I had to wait a couple of weeks for the replacement. There is that noticeable hum you mention - this was also a bone of contention at the time!
Hi Robert, thanks for the first-hand feedback about the original release. Most fascinating...
Really enjoyed your analysis and can agree with most of what you say. I don't have the 1980 repress that you refer to but do have my original bought on the first day of issue in 1974. I always found the hum very annoying for, whilst it is inaudible on most of the album where it is drowned out by the intensively layered content, it does grate on the quieter sections. The Lamb was my least favoured of the Gabriel era albums but has steadily moved up the hierarchy for me to the point where it is vying with Selling England to be my favourite. I think the AP 75 smashes the original pressing quite comprehensively and cannot see myself playing the latter again. I do have two minor gripes (I can live with the packaging differences). Firstly, and it is more of an issue with this than any other "45" I have, is that the necessary flips cut in to break the flow to the point that the first time I played it I was caught out a couple of times as the stylus struck the out groove. I suppose this is inevitable on a dense concept album but it still irritates. Secondly, as with my Selling England AP 75 the inner sleeves were crush ended due to sloppy packing.............come on AP, you can do better. In summary, however, I think this is the sort of release that makes the pursuit of audiophile perfection worth very penny spent.
Thanks for your feedback Ian. I do agree that on this release the out of place side changes are not as unobtrusive as on SEBTP, but I love it so much I just forgot to say that!
I struggle with parting with this sort of cash when the Porky Prime original pressing is frankly stunning. That hum is only really audible between tracks or if you strain in exceptionally quiet passages.
I bought the UHQR of Steely Dan’s Aja and yes it is outstanding but did it add to my enjoyment of the album in multiples? No it’s just much better than an already great early analog MCA pressing.
Nice review though. I just worry that there’s some skint 17 year old out there who doesn’t realise you can get an excellent VG+ original for under £20 and saves for a year for this.
Regarding the 1974 original, this really does blow it away, although, bear your next point in mind: regarding the 'skint 17 year old'... I appreciate that many people buy these things as collectables. In that respect, fine, it'll still be there in 10 or 20 years time when said 17 year old has potentially upgraded to a decent system that can maximise the potential of this pressing. Assuming said skint 17 year old has a fairly basic record player he or she won't be getting most of the benefit of this, or any other pressing for that matter. And I'd probably advise the $120 was better spent on a turntable upgrade...
@@DaveDenyer fair response Dave. And yes a suitcase record deck coupled with an Analog Productions audiophile remaster is probably not the way forward. Keep up the good work!
I would love to hear your top tens, Dave.
Thanks for the feedback Wilber. I do plan to start doing these sometime quite soon.
Dave: Much enjoy your take here. As a side note, I see you're using these hard PVC sleeve protectors, as per your 1980 pressing, which I too also prefer. May I suggest you don't use them as the chemical gas content in the pvc can transfer through the cardboard sleeve and cause destructive "misting" on the vinyl.
Thanks for the heads-up on that. I only use the 'Blake sleeves' these days. But some of my older records are still in the heavy PVC covers. I have had one weld itself to the album cover (Jethro Tull - Living in the Past) so can concur that they are best avoided.
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From Gerard Stroh!!
I Got My Phil Collins Face Value 45rpm Speed Record Album and it Sounds Great!!!
I pre-ordered the 1984 Van Halen Album at 45 rpm Speed Album and I don't know When it post to Come Out and I hope Analogue Productions Comes out The Genenis Invisible Touch at 45rpm Speed LP!!!
I am thinking About Getting The Phil Collins Album Hello I Must Be Going at 45 rpm Speed From Analogue Productions!!!
Bye From Gerard Stroh!!!
Hi Gerard, on the strength of Face Value, I have Hello I Must Be Going on its way. Thanks for your feedback.
Yeah, I really need to get this...I have the Classic Records version and was going to skip it but...my arm is being twisted.
I bought the Selling England (I also have the Classic Records of this one) and it is stunning.
Thank you for the review...I think!
Hi Steven, I'd love to know what you think when you've listened to it, seeing as I don't have the Classic Records to compare against.
A hum in the background? I think the original Yes Relayer also had that effect, perhaps deliberate to add subtle ambiance? Only it seemed between tracks. Ultra sound does the trick on cleaning
It certainly wasn’t deliberate, I’m not sure exactly how quickly it was done but it was corrected with later cuts. Interesting about Relayer, I’ll look into that...
Hi Dave, your new copies of Genesis, the lamb and selling England. Are they the original recordings or they the Nick Davis remix versions.
Hi Chris, these Atlantic 75 issues are superb new cuts / pressings taken from the original masters, so are not remixed at all.
Do you think these are going to sell out anytime soon? I really need to get this, but $120 is a lot for me to spend on 1 album right now. Let me know, thank you!
Hi Dan, They sold out of the first run already and have done / or are doing a limited second run (Chad did a video on this recently). Whether that has already sold out, I'm not sure, so do check and if there are any left I'd definitely get one on order. This really is an absolute gem.
Dave - interested to know your opinion on which of selling england or lamb on Atlantic 45 is the more enjoyable listen? I am only going to buy one at this point. Thanks.
That’s a hard one: personally I would have to say The Lamb, but Selling England is perhaps a more easily accessible and better-sounding album.
Thanks Dave. I think I will go with your personal thoughts and get the Lamb as I find your takes generally spot on. And, the first couple times I’ve listened to both albums I’ve thought Lamb to be a better album. I should have been more clear in my question. My gut tells me Lamb and your personal thoughts sealed the deal. Thank you.
Go for it! @@KRay-km8hh 👍
Can you do a run down on David Bowie albums please
Thanks for the suggestion Jerry.
You obviously dont know what compression is....
I’m learning, at least trying to understand. AlI know for sure is that what I used to think about compression, was very misinformed.