24v Battle Born Battery Power with 2750 watts of Rich Solar! (RV Lithium Battery UPGRADE)
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- Our Dream System - 2750 watts of Rich Solar Panels, 4 Battle Born Battery Game Changers in 24 volt, dual Victron Multiplus ii Inverters in parallel!
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I'd go with 540 watt panels. Way more efficient. Two would outperform 5 of the ones you have and you could make it fit. Cheaper too.
I hope at some point you will give a cost break down for this gigantic system. I am so jealous of you guys and this system.
Does this void your warranty in any way ?
No, as long as the warranty claim doesn't have anything to do with the system or was effected by the install.
Get some rest!
Thank you!!! 😊
I am curious to how much weight was added to your rv with all the batteries, panels and management components? Great system!!
I would also be curious! I'd guess 750 pounds total (solar + inverters + batteries) but It'd be interesting to hear! All I know is Lifepo4 batteries are very light compared to lead acid / agm
Thanks! Yes, pretty heavy at around 800+ lbs for this.
Very interesting video . All nice and organized install. Awesome to have the company’s come to you at your campsite. I enjoy following the both of you on your trips .
@@IreneIronTravelsso what is your CCC now?
Very neat and detailed!! Thx for the great video!! Safe travels!!
This is the best off-grid system I have seen on an RV. Great video you guys. I love your content. I would love to see a detailed playlist of the installation. I plan to do something very similar on a class A motorhome. Also, I am interested in flexible solar panels but don't know much about them yet. Thank you so much for helping the RV community. Hope to see you on the road someday soon.
Aaron! Monumental! I have to admit that I stopped watching halfway thru your last install because it was just over my head. ( though being a loyal subscriber, I let it play to the very end and “liked” it.). However, on this one, when I saw the picture of the roof filled with all those solar panels, I committed to watching every second of this one. So impressed with your system design, your team members, your knowledge and the video. The result is admirable and amazing. You and Chris are SET UP!👏👏👏👏
Ahhh, thank you Joan! I love hearing this! I tried to make this one "easier" to watch! 🤣
What was the cost of the installation and parts?
650 bifacial should yield over 5K easily with that much spacious top. 2.7KW is a serious loss
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My biggest problem traveling through the country OTR for so many years you get lonely after a while or boring The mountains of beautiful the streams the creeks but after a while it gets really really boring.... There's no place like home
I would love for you to make a printable flow chart diagram that explains which product is linked up to what. There are several products out there but knowing how it fits into the big picture would be super helpful. I'm thinking it would look like a figure 8 :) but could be total wrong!
Thank you so much for allowing us to be a part of this amazing project Aaron and Christine! It was an absolute blast working and hanging out with you guys along with Andrew Mann! The system is looking fantastic and we look forward to seeing many more adventures with Shoey! Say hi to June and Louie for us!
You're the best! Thank YOU guys! Such a fun weekend and we are loving the new system soo much. We'll say hi to the pups for ya!!
Impressive install! I am not sure I want to know the retail price on that. Shout out to RichSolar, I have one of their 150W panels on our trailer. It usually out performs it's rating by a couple of watts. I plan on getting more when I get around to upgrading from our little 200Ah system. I realize these videos are a little behind on showing, but I hope you guys didn't stay for the Tropical Storm. It looked like it might wash some roads out around there.
Thank you! Yes, we were out of that area before the storm, but you're right, those roads in with all the rain would be really bad.
As a future full-time RVer, I am so thankful for everything I'm learning from you guys! :) Wanted to ask if you could explore onboard water-making systems for RVs? I'm not willing to fork over the money to buy a Living Vehicle RV (yikes $$$$), but I'm curious if anything exists out there other than spending crazy money on an LV. I've searched the internet and haven't found anything. I'm hoping in your travels and in your community you have come across some information, or some viable options.
How much weight did you add to the rig? And how did that add to the tung weight for the truck?
I’m not really sure but first, this is a fifth wheel and has pin weight, not tongue. Aaron put the batteries mid ship, not in the front, so that shifts weigh aft, and reduces load on the truck. Also keep in mind that Battleborns are really light. I believe the panels though add a lot of weight. Call Rich solar for weights. We are considering a similar system but scaled back and can’t go that heavy due to an 18,000 pound limit on our truck. We are in the planning stage currently.
Andrew is awesome! Built my little prerunner and does some clean installs!!!
Awesome!
You coulda just bought some nice, used or even new SunPower 250w solar panels for like $70-$80 per panel in bulk at SanTan Solar, which is like 1/4 the cost and about same performance.
Also your RV Rooftop AC probably uses 1300w-2500w, each. Even 3 x 1300w each =3900w/hour. 11kwh of battery is not enough, unless you install a minisplit.
Great job I have an Alliance 310RL and I put a somewhat similar system except it was 12v and one inverter ,5 SOK 206ah and 10 195w panels on the roof. Love how you have upgraded the design. Keep the great videos coming.
Nice 👍 Thats a great system you have! Appreciate you watching!
thanks for the video. I would love a mor detailed installation video. I have done a 12 volt Victron system. I feel a learning curve for the dual Victron 24 volt you did. Thanks again!
Very impressive, hope some of that was comp. Green eyes for sure. What would that cost the average RV'er without a you tube channel cost?
Thanks! Yes, this system is a bit extravagant for the average RV'er, but we've seen similar systems for people that do full-time and want to have the same amount of power off the grid as they have plugged into an RV park. A similar system to this could range around 25k, depending on labor rates. But, you could do a really nice smaller system for a lot less. It really depends on how you camp and your budget. 😊
Great work Rich Solar! We love those guys. Congrats on your epic new off-grid system! Can't wait to see where you boondock with all that POWER 🌞
Thanks guys! What do you think about those 250watt panels? Something you'd put in your installs? Would fit those ORV's nicely!
@@IreneIronTravels hell yeah! We put the 335W Rich panels on our flagship builds!
Idk how you mounted those ... Just looking at thumbnail... A track mounting system would've reduced holes in roof
Thanks Aaron and Chris! Below is what I will be installing beginning tomorrow morning on my 2022 310RL. Purchased the materials locally. Thanks for the motivation. You convinced me to go 24 volt over 12. Great video!
4 380W Solar Panel
2 MP compact 24-3000-inverter
1 100/50 Charge Controller
1 Smart Shunt
4 Enduro 24-100AH
1 Bluetooth Dongle
Hello 👋. Nice system you have going in! You’re going to love the lower amperage of 24 volt! Have fun!
Hi Aaron. Could you send me a diagram in how you connected the 2 Orion 24v to 12v connectors in parallel to the front bay fuse relay. I have a friend who is looking into the alliance paradigm 310rl and we will be building our own solar setup. I think the 24 volt system is better then the 12 volt system that I did for my alliance paradigm 372rk.
Any reason you ran your inverters in parallel instead of split phase? Also I hope your 24v inverters can handle the load better than mine. I have 2 12v MPII 3000 and when both A/Cs kick on at the same time (even with soft starts) and another load is on i n the RV I have had it blow my 400 amp and a 450 amp fuse because of the sudden load. Just running they are fine, it is just that initial hit and your talking about running 3 at the same time granted your amp load will be half because of the 24v, hope it all works great for you. Also you will need to convert to mini split to run A/C for any amount of time. I have close to 3000 watt of solar and that can not keep with up recharging the batteries if 2 A/Cs are running, especially if you run them at night then the solar has to play catch up to charge what you used during the night and power the inverters with what ever battery draw (A/Cs) you have on during the daytime.
WOW! Nice system... how many batteries do you have and I am wondering why so much solar? Is this so you can run 3 A/C units? thanks, solar dummy :(
Don't forget (if not done already)! Update your insurance so you're covered in case of some type of disaster.
A friend put on liquid spring for 23,000.00 and a tree totalled their rig. Did not get paid back for it.
Oh wow thats horrible! Thats a great tip, thank you!
Wow, horrible! Thanks for the reminder!
Aaron, your system is virtually identical to ours with dual 24V Multiplus 120x2 inverters and the Watchdog EMS. You will probably run into a couple of the same problems I did with the Watchdog throwing a false “Missing Neutral” error when you plug into many 50A shore power sources and also with the Multiplus minimum input current of 18.6A which makes it tough to use a 15A shore power connection when moochdocking. Let’s chat sometime about solutions we found.
Thank you for answering a question I had for Aaron (minimum input). 18.6 amps minimum input current is rough. I run a Quattro 5000 12/220, and it's got a 13.5 amp minimum - and I complain about not being able to go down to 10! 18 is rough. (edit: I'm running 15k BTU AC + everything else moochdocking with a 15a cord).
What happens if you only apply AC power to one inverter? Does it just fault out?
At a certain point, you might be better off with a separate battery charger. I found a 12V (technically 0-15 volt adjustable) 0-100 amp adjustable power supply on Amazon for a good price. I'm sure there's a similar 24V model. Just keep the Victron system in DC mode and tweak your power supply to match your AC limit. Not as efficient as AC to the victrons but better than popping breakers!
It’s not easy to reconfigure the wiring and the Multiplus programming to switch between 2 parallel inverters and 1 isolated inverter, so I haven’t really tested or pursued that option. Fortunately, I haven’t had very many times when I was limited to only a 15A shorepower hookup. The couple of times it came up, I got by with changing the Multipluses to “Charger only” mode which lets you dial the AC input current limit down to any number but you lose the PowerAssist function so you really have to watch and limit what you’re running in the RV during that time.
Hey Skyler! Wow, I didnt know you guys had this setup! Yes, well have to talk sometime about it.
We haven't had any watchdog errors yet. We probably plug into 15 amp once a year when we go back home to MN... so we'll have to figure that out!
I didnt know about the Charger only mode allowing you to change the limiter down below the 19 amps. That would be perfect for us mooch docking on 15 amp. I'll just set it to 10 amps and run of the batteries and solar. 👍
Thanks, I didn’t realize that the Multiplus 3000 had an 18.6 minimum voltage. I have a new Oliver trailer with Victron on the solar side, but a Xantrex 3000W inverter/charger. I’d considered swapping to a Multiplus to take advantage of the load sharing between shore power and solar when running the AC while moochdocking. I can run the AC from the 630 A/h of Lithionics batteries for several hours, but with just 400W of solar, recovery time is excessive. I can set the Xantrex at 15A while moochdocking, but I thought the Multiplus could pull from both sources. I need to investigate more!
Just doesn't seem cost effective to me. if you're always in a place without shore power i can see this or a genny, but this setup for the avg non influencers who don't get really good deals for the advertisement of the video the cost is sky high. It would take many years of off grid living to pay for this setup before actually saving anything vs a genny at less than half the cost. it would prob take almost 4 years to pay this system off at a price tag of 8k + which this easily is with those BB batteries being a grand a pop.
Did you get out of the San Bernardino mountains before the storm hit? I've been thinking about you!
Thank you! Yes, we did leave the area before the storm it. We saw some rain from the after effects, but nothing too bad. 😊
I'm glad! The mountains and parts of the desert got it the worst. Not what you want to be in when boondocking.@@IreneIronTravels
Would love to see a wiring diagram of this setup. Good job!
Holy Solars. You'all can light up a freakin' village 😅
Jaws. We’re going to need a bigger boat. Are you going to need a bigger truck?
You should start looking into hydro panels
Finally! I’ve been waiting for this video. System looks awesome. Did you need 2 inverters since you have 3 a/c’s? I still haven’t convinced the wife on our own MK295, she got a house instead.
Hey Rick! Yes, realistically we won't be running 3 AC's much, but running two you almost do need two inverters. Because the MULTi's are only 2400 watts continuously. 2 AC's plus the fridge, lights, etc.... would be closer to 3000 watts....
Congrats on the House!!
Great install! Thanks for the video :)
This video could not have come at a better time! We have been shopping around for solar panels to add to the 200W panel that came with our trailer. I just ordered four of the 250W, thanks for the discount code!
Great to hear Lulu, thats awesome! You're going to love the extra power! 🌞
We had to give up a lot of our system when we traded in our old trailer and this was the final step in building the system in our new one. Also, Rich Solar currently has a 25% off sale so that was a nice bonus. 😎
I prayed that you managed to finished your projects and were able to get to safety before the weather turned dangerous.
We did, thank you!! 😊
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Nice install. Now water/waste are the limiting factors.
I’d like a more detailed video in this system.
I suspect we are looking at a decent 5 figure amount in this install…
Looks beautiful
Labor costs are where it gets tricky. The parts alone aren't too bad, but professional labor adds up quickly!
The parts for that system are easily $25k. Those batteries alone total $15k.
@@theshastafarian jeez I'm so glad I built my own battery bank from individual lifepo4 cells! 700ah @12v for $2000. Then again, Aaron and Chris probably get a partner discount..
Don’t you just like to drill holes in a new rv! 😂
Not a Battle-Born fan way overpriced
Happy for you guys, I do have a couple of questions though. Did you have to up grade the wiring in the rv and does installation on the roof void your warranty.
Thanks!! No, you don't have to upgrade any of the factory RV wiring, because it is still running the same amount of power as it's designed to.
The roof warranty is not voided, unless the solar panels were determined to be the cause of an issue. For example, if one of the solar panel bracket holes leaked it would not be covered. But if the roof fan started leaking that would still be covered on the factory warranty because the panels don't have anything to do with it. 👍
I am totally for solar but I have no idea how you run a series in parallel etc. I've had solar installed on my house but I wonder-does Chris' eyes glaze over when you start talking about controllers and wattage like mine does! LOL! I just like the outcome of having it but I really don't totally get the installation part but I can appreciate how excited Aaron sounds when he talks about it!
It takes all types to make the world go round! I am such a techie, I build my own batteries - and I razz Aaron about buying pre-made batteries like battle bourn. They're great products but come at a premium price and I think he could handle building a battery 😂
Problem is, nobody can afford this.
It looks like a fantastic setup. Congratulations!
Thank you!
21:35 if you've got existing lithium batteries, you should have a separate 12v battery bank (just connect them to the 12v bus) or as backup batteries.
I'm all 12v, but my Sprinter van has 3 separate battery banks. 12v lead acid starter battery. 12v 100ah LiFePO4 "house battery" connected to the Mercedes electrical system - runs my ham radio, starts my generator, and a few other things.
Then there's a 12v DC-DC charger, and my 12v 700ah home built lifepo4 battery bank.
I ALSO have my 50ah 12V LiFePO4 "emergency battery", but that's completely a backup. Anyway. More is better!
I love the emergency back up battery. Still need to look into that!
Victron touch 70 install, you drilled the hole in the false front panel then said it was a strait shot down to connect the wires. I have 2024 310RL.
I'm having trouble running a snake down. I pulled the power panel & breaker box but cannot fish a snake down. Did you cut any access holes
to get snake the wire down? any help would be apricated. I really enjoy the videos. Thank you
I didn't have to cut any access holes. However in the 295MK there is a panel behind the toilet that does open and shows the roof vent pipes that rundown to the basement passthrough. I dont remember if that helped me at all, but it can be tight with the 3 vent pipes, studs, and screws sticking out. I just tried to follow the wire bundle that was already in there down to the back of the breaker panel. The double connector wire of the Touch 70 made it a bit difficult as well. I believe I taped those together and then to the fish tape. Sorry I couldn't be more help.....good luck!
@@IreneIronTravels Thanks for a quick reply, I made some progress with help from a GoPro.
Why did you choose the softstart: Micro air easy start asy-364-x20-ip ? I assume your 295MK has the Colemen-Mach 4800 series?
I ordered three Coleman- Mach units on Amazon but they are on back order. The Micro-Air unit is $100.00 more. I didn't see a link to the Micro on you list.
I gotta laugh!!! when you left the class B van 2 years ago the quote was "maybe we would go as high as 1000 watts of solar on our new RV but never go crazy with as much as 2000 watts+ of power" 🌅 so..... welcome to real-life RVing. We all live for upgrades so you have the right idea.... Go Big! I am jealous.... Be safe!🏞
Would love to see more detail about the Multi+ II parallel setup and programming. We are planning the same thing, right now we have one 24/3000 -70 2x120 and would like to add a second. Also was planing on getting rid of our 12v battery and parallel two Orion 24/12 70 just like you did for 12v power.
Hey guys happy camping! So thanks for sharing your awesome victron system with us; I just recently got a quote for a victron system powered by 4 270 ah battle borns and 1200 watts of solar filling my roof…. Here’s the question will the one more battery off set enough for the lesser of solar granted I have a generator that could be used as a hybrid system with remote start to bring the batteries back up if needed; which then tells me why the extra battery if my ac could make it through the night with less. I hope I have asked this question understandably lol thanks again. Oh next time you guys come through Tucson az say hi
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Great system love the way you put it all together. Wow I would love to see any additional information or videos that you might have on this system. Looks as if you use batteries are 12dv at 270 ah and two in series making one bank and the same making the second bank. Then you paralleled the two back to give you at 24VDC output nice. Just do not understand why you use 250 watt solar panels when you could get 550 watt solar panels ? You would either have 1/2 the solar panels on your roof or the same amount with twice the amount of power going into you system . Then if twice the amount you could put two more inverter doing sharing and wow that would be nice . Plus give you a system that could be added to at any time if 1/2 the panels.
No way to fit 550s on the roof
Thanks! Yes, because of all the stuff we have on our roof (3 AC's, 2 fans, skylight, etc) we just don't have room for wider panels than these 250's. Any higher wattage panel is at least 40 inches wide and we only have 36 inches between the AC's and the edge of the roof. 👍
@@IreneIronTravels and you don’t want to fall off the roof!
Was wondering if you do side jobs to upgrade from 2000 to 3000 inverters and batteries from 200 Amp battle born to 300amp single lithium battery.
which one of you is Irene?
Happy for you guys.
I’ve had dual 3kva’s for about 3 years now. I guess we’re a little more power hungry than we thought. I’ll be stepping up to dual 5ks in the near future 🤘🏼
This was so interesting and informative. We don’t live in our rv but we’re retired and enjoy traveling. We have a 25 foot class c and just had 600 watts of solar installed and a 200 amp lithium battery. We are so excited to try it out. You are so inspiring! Love your channel. Keep it up and enjoy!
Sorry, no way, what a nightmare, way out of control, one bump, one spark, not safe. That's not camping. Way over the top for what? To hear ppl say "I am so jealous of your system and your set up"
Your video hit me the wrong way. Stay safe.
Not safe???....you could say that about anything really if you wanted. And we're definitely not wanting people to say that about our system.
We are just sharing our journey and experiences with others. Thanks for watching! 😊
👍not safe!
I know you have probably answered this 1 million times before but why do you fill up your fresh tank completely at the start of your travel day rather than when you get closer to your site? At 100 gallons that’s over 800 pounds. That makes it a heck of a lot heavier to Paul, which, of course means more fuel consumed.
We try to, but sometimes it's tough to find potable water on our route. In this instance we had over a 100 gallons of gray and black to drop off as well. So we picked a dump and water that was in the middle between campsites. 👍
@@IreneIronTravels gotcha. Thank you. I’m very new to all of this :-)
Awesome job it look good, this is something that I wouldn't mind doing also, I would need all what you have because we don't boondock but I might just keep the factory installed that we have from Jayco.
Glad you got the solar installed. I will make boondocking much more enjoyable. Keep up the good work!! 👍
Nice. How did you wire the solar panels to charge controllers? How about the total weight added does that put the rv over max or close? I saw previous comments at 800+ lb.
Great video!!!! I hope I can remember this video when we're ready to go full time!!
It'll be nice to be able to run the A/C's during a one night stay, it won't limit our choices with that!
I would love to see another video on a more detailed install, with emphasis on the wiring details. Thanks so much! Really enjoyed watching this build come together.
This setup has to be around 1500 lbs. Do you have any carrying capacity left?
I think I added it up to just under 1000 lbs. About 4000 lbs capacity. 👍
@@IreneIronTravels wow! 4k carrying capacity? That's amazing. I think the manufacturer website says 2,757
Aaron, were you an electronics guy in your pre RV career
I was actually in the automotive industry in management and sales. But I’ve always enjoyed learning and even installed my own car stereo systems as a teenager. When we had a home for 10 years we did a lot of remodeling and I learned some electrical there. A lot of self learning from RUclips. 👍
Love this! 🌞
2 inverters?
At 14:21 in the video it looks like you have the positive and negative leads run of the same battery. They should be at opposite ends of the battery bank so all the battery’s in the set drain together. Maybe you already fixed that during your install.
Awesome setup, definitely a system to be jealous of. Now you can join me in spreading the gospel of 24 volts. 😂
Meanwhile I think 24v is a compromise. If you're going to break comparability with 12V, then just bite the bullet and go 48V 😂. They now sell 48V alternators for my Sprinter... 🤔
@@PsRohrbaugh I guess it all depends on what your estimated power consumption is going to be. I was able to use the factory 12v charger built into the RV's transfer switch. As long as my inverter is on, no matter if I'm plugged in on the generator or using the 24v batteries the 12 volts always stay charged.
@@Independent_DIY good points. Mg point was that 48v opens the door to a ton of residential systems, where 48v is basically the standard voltage for DC storage. Instead of Victron stuff, you can consider things like Sol-Ark (where $7000 gets you a 15kw inverter with multiple AC inputs and outputs, grid tie, and 12k of MPPT charge controllers built-in). The user interface is more residential than mobile and I'm hardly saying it's automatically a superior choice. Just that 48v opens the door to a lot of residential systems.
There are definitely more DC appliances that accept 24v than 48v, but almost everyone keeps some sort of 12v bus around, so if you're going to be using voltage converters anyways, that advantage of 24V doesn't mean much.
The 4/0 wire on my 5000w 12v system gets warm to the touch at times, so I get the advantage of higher voltage whether it's 24 or 48. But as a minimum, people looking into 24V should also look into 48V.
Can you make a video of a 24v system and maybe put a list where we can find the items that you use
The one thing i really would like to know is the wiring on the inverters. From shore power and then back to panel
Nice system and effort!! Enjoy! The great part is you can enjoy the system 24 hours a day. Take care.
I’d be interested in a more detailed video. I’m very interested in doing this as well.
Wow! Thats a system! Aaron you seem knowledgable about solar so here's a quick question... We have a smaller system but decent with all Victron and BB batteries, we have a multi plus 2 3000 watt, 4 BB 100amp batteries and all the other toys to go with it. When we were plugged into good 50amp shore power, both A/c's going (with soft starts), tv, and hot water tank on electric why would our battery monitor be reading down 7 days, 5 days, 3 day 4 hours then gradually go back up. Its never done that before when plugged into shore power. It happened after torrential rains but the electrical never seemed to skip a beat, the electric coming in was always 122-124v on both legs.
Hello, thanks! Yes, that seems like a weird situation. Maybe the shore power shut off for a short time and you didn't notice...
Was the battery percentage also going down at the same time?
If the power did shut off, that would make sense that it was going down that quickly and then the power came back on....
This is so fantastic a rolling Solar Billboard Congratulations
How does AC input work with two inverters? Do you have to provide it to both? (edit it looks like you do) What's the minimum amperage you can limit to? For example, on my Victron Quattro 5000w 12v / 220 amp, I can't limit my AC input below 13.5 amps. That's fine most of the time for me, but I wish I could go down to an even 10. Does two inverters double your minimum amperage on AC input?
Anyway, assuming you can limit your input to 15 amps or below, this will be the ultimate "moochdocking" setup. The solar might not always give you enough power, but if you can run a 15 amp cord to the house you're staying at, you can run all 3 ACs and an air fryer and not worry 😂
Yes, that is one thing that is tricky with the parallel of the inverters. It doubles the input limiter of 14.5 amps... to 19 amps. So Im fine on 20, 30, 50 amp shore power.....but the 15 amp will be tricky.
I'll probably have to change the charger amps down, otherwise it will try to pull too much power. Then Ill have to manually decide when to plug in or not....
Maybe we just won't need to be plugged in at all if we have some sun....
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I love having solar :) 1500 watts 1000 amp hrs lithium 2 charge controllers ! Adding to my system in the spring to go the same more panels but adding rails and swivel mounts ! Feels soooo good to have everything running off the sun ☀️
That is awesome!
That is so interesting! Interested in reviewing our POWERWIN BT100 1280Wh LiFePO4 Battery?
Hello, thanks! Sorry, but we are not interested in reviewing this product. But, thanks for the offer. 😊
Wow - what a great project to follow! that is some serious solar juice you got there!
Jesus... do you guys have an AC unit for your electrical for those hot desert days??? This stuff must heat up when the weather is gnarly. (Honestly, not to throw a spanner in the works, but do you have a smoke or heat detector in the battery/components compartment? It HAS to get HOT in there, even on normal days, let alone the desert heat days...) What a great setup! With all the online work you do, along with the electrical components of your rig and trailer, this must make you basically 'plugged-in' all the time. Aaron's mastery of electrical astounds me.
I think it's nice that you've been able to partner with so many companies on your journeys to be able to "affordably" work these upgrades into your RV life. Haters gonna hate, I've seen the comments... screw 'em. You two are so professional and giving in your journey and learning experiences; what goes around comes around.
Loved seeing this. I hope it does for you what you need it to do. I can't imagine it's not a super benefit either way. Happy trails!
Thanks Kai! Yes, the system will produce some heat but the batteries and inverters do have built I fail safes on the temperatures. But, that is a really good idea to add a second smoke alarm down there for safety! We did add some water leak detectors down there.
We basically have 40 amps of power while unplugged! It makes running our business so much easier from the road.
Appreciate ya!
why two MultiPlus-II 2 x120V 50A 120/240VAC split-phase? won't one do the job?
The Multiplus 3000's are actually a 2400 watt inverter or roughly 20 amps at 120 volt. So two of them in parallel like this give us about 40 amps of power off grid.
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Nice system I hope it works great for you
Not sure why you would make your system 24v then have to loose efficiency when you bring it back to 12v
I will be doing a video about 24volts in RV's to help explain it because it is relatively new for RV's to do this and its a lot to cover.
But actually the higher the voltage the more efficient the whole system will be and its why off grid cabins would even do 48volt or higher.
So you're right you do loose a little on the conversion back to 12v, but that is only for the few small RV components...like lights, fans, water pump, jacks, and accessories. This is usually 100 watts or less.
But, where you really gain efficiency is going up from 24v to 120v instead of 12v to 120v. And this is the BIG components like AC, heaters, micro, etc. 1000's of watts.
I’m currently upgrading the OEM system on our new Interstate 24X. AS uses mixed flexible Merlin panels 200W and 100W wired in parallel. This results in nominal PV input due to shading. I installed a 200W Rich solar panel and I’m getting better PV than the original 300W. The plan is to mount another 200W panel to power our 300AH BB batteries and install a Nomadic X2 AC. Picked the hottest week in Minneapolis to do the install 🙄.
Thats so weird AS decided to go that route! Glad you're getting it sorted out though. Stay cool!
Nice job Y'all! I truly am hoping that representatives in the RV industry are following your channel.
Thank you, appreciate that! 😊
Wow…incredible system!
Awesome much..All N- Live Love Well.
Holy crap and WOW!! So worth the wait. Woodbury wants to know if they lose power can you drive there and power the town?
🤣 Yes! We'll be powering WB when we get back home in the summer! 🤣
Awesome. That is the exact system I had been planning out for my future 5th wheel. Even a similar amount of solar. It's great to see it in real life come together and work. Did you wire the Orions to a bus bar or just parallel them from output stud to output stud like you would batteries?
Thanks! No buss bar for the Orions. Yes, we just parallel them to each other output to output, input to input, neg to neg. And then the input from the 24v batteries and the output goes to the factory RV positive. 👍 Works great so far.
As always BS & BK & BC !!
Thanks Larry! BS, BK and BC!
Awesome installation....wow
I have to look for more installation videos for our travel trailer 😊
Thanks! Yes, I have 2 on our travel trailer if you look back at our channel! 👍
Great video, the system looks awesome. I would like to see a more detailed video on your new setup. Your setup on your ORV was a great help and inspiration for my solar setup on our ORV. We now have a Riverstone 5th wheel and I need to plan my solar setup. Keep up the good work.
Thanks you!!
Great system. I also noticed the Bulleit Bourbon. Nice choice there too.
Right on!
In the process of redoing my electrical system and was wondering why you chose to go 24v other than saving a little on wire size ?
Victron prices are pretty much the same going 12v or 24v. Right now it looks like Rich Solar and BougheRV are competing for some sales on their 12v 200w solar panels. Less that a $1 a watt while the 24v 200w are over a $1 a watt. I haven’t seen a big difference in batteries as far as voltage goes unless you go to 48v.
Plus going 24v you have to get a dc to dc converter which is about $140 and another thing to go bad in the system.
Just curious
Yes, money saving is not a great reason to do it. The biggest savings would probably be in the solar charge controllers as you can buy half the wattage size controller and the victrons can get expensive as you get unto the 150/100's.
But the real reason (for me) is if one is going to go with larger inverters or multiple inverters. At 24 volt you will have half the amperage going through the wires, which is more efficient and a lot cooler. So if I want to run an AC for 12 hours its about 60 amps instead of 120 amps. Same goes for charging the batteries.
So as we leave our inverters on 24/7 it is more efficient to go from 24v to 120v for most of our loads.
If you have a smaller system it probably makes more sense to stay 12 volt and then run as much as you can off 12 volt instead of 120v. And like you said, you do have to deal with the Orion converter of 24v to 12v.
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Thanks for the reply. Understand the higher the amps the more heat created.
I have the cousin to your last rig but it’s a Cougar. Same size and layout. 530 solar, 300a battery and 2000w Xantrex inverter/charger. Upgrade to 1200 solar, 600a battery, 3000w multi Plus and same 50/100 Victron solar. All because I’ll be installing a mini split that should be soaking up around 6000w a day in the mid 80’s. Any hotter and I’ll have to break out the geny
Wow! That is an amazing setup! Awesome job for sure!
Thanks Betty! 😊😊
I can't be the only one that started swatting at my monitor at about 2:29 into it.......
Yes! The bugs were crazy there !