Wow, folks please note that he is saying “in an emergency “ what your “insurance company says” is a nonexistent background noise when your family is freezing in an emergency situation. Most of you folks probably have an app telling you when to drink water or go to bed for you as well. The government is not your friend and they certainly are not there to help you. Be self sufficient.
Light a fire in that or any woodstove outside of the house before you use it inside. You need to burn off any oil or chemical residue before using it indoors. Survival stoves are not supposed to kill you
I used to install stoves for a living. Respectfully, you are wrong. More importantly, don't set this up like this guy did with no stoveback. You'll burn your house down easily if installed like in this video.
@@jerrodlopes186 I know you're not talking to me.. right. I ran a Blaze King for 10 years with OSB all around it, never had a problem. All it did was get a little warm. But this guy's chimney I will agree is a bit dubious. Should have at least double wall if not triple going through that plywood.
Hi I am a educated chimney sweeper in my country, with 10 years behind me. This stove looks okay to me, if there is and guide for fire safety, and installation. But I can see some major security breaches on the fire safety. First the chimney pipe must be safely fastened, to something strong and not flammable material. And keep at least 3+ inches to flammable material all around. Secondly. The Stove Shall never ever stand on an flammable material, but on stones / clinkers / metal or Heated Glass (I do not regiment heated glass due to it is to heavy an it can break) I'd recommend 20+ inches in front of the stove, and to the sides 6+ inches. Be aware of that the plate need to be goes all the way to the wall behind the stove in a square shape. (This is so if you drop some sparkle or bigger in the dark there is a lot less chance of fire inside the house.) For the third. For the stove to flammable material, there need to be at least 3+ inches all around. Or whatever the manufaktur prescribe. (!!Remember to always follow the manufacturers advice!!) And if you want any other boring advies I am here.
Hmm the combustion chamber is fine yet any bigger you will need b-vent material if you would like to get deeper into the aspects of the install the oven part changes its over all volume related to combustion factors which is the only reason you are allowed single wall pipe in this situation. Also when installing 26gauge 4inch for exhaust venting please install it going in the proper direction the crimped end away from the combustion box. This will prevent a down draft from blowing carbon monoxide into your home during said emergency situation. Also remember tolerances are based on btu burn rates and the size of the burn box for the amount of ash soot and carbon left in the box on an average burn hour. Please always remember to clean the burner box area as excess ash and hot coals could burn through the burner box the reason for never mounting on wood. If you must use this save me stove buy a piece of durarock concrete board 1/2 will be sufficient to prevent a what if scenario till you can put out the ash if it does burn through and lands on the floor plus durarock is fire resistant for number of hours. anything bigger the burn box would need the proper stone hearth to prevent heat damage to the floor and surrounding areas this obviously not a cast iron design. I'm also in the heating cooling industry I'm even thinking I may want one of these for my self. Just to have in that what if moment
I was thinking the same thing. Never put flammable material under or around the stove. Make sure to allow plenty of space around it. Those things get HOT!!!
Need to Protect wall behind it- yeah, insurances won’t like it.. but better than dying. Also- I would put wire to support pipe outside from weight of snow or strong winds 💥
Scott S. your insurance people are humans. If SHTF they're gonna be home trying to figure out how to survive too. Not in the office pushing pencils and making phone calls. If the grid goes down, none of that will even be possible. THINK
I have owned the same exact stove for a few years now. It puts out alot of heat and is very portable. I used several times in winter during power outages. Heats your home and cook on it and the water tank on the side is awesome for hot water. Gives you peace of mind that you have an option in a bind if something happens.
Better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it. Also, as a Marine Vet. Having canned foods, plenty of extra water containers and MRE's is also a great thing to have.
@@irockz281982 Thank you for your reply. I agree with you. In fact, to be autonomous is the only option today as many troubles are coming in front of us.
@@intuition7228 All MRE's are not created equal as far as taste is concerned. So if you consider stockpiling these try them first and find which ones you like and which ones you don't like
@@markgiltner7358 Thank you, that's what I do already since 2 years. I invite people around me to do the same, they laugh and take me for an oddball ! I don't care, and continue to do so :-)
ha! I'm glad I'm not the only one watching this video FOR THIS WINTER CONSIDERATIONS, even though the video is over 4 years old---I would actually like to install a more permanent cast iron wood burning stove---but it would be a bigger renovation that this quickie. Still, it would be great in an Emergency.
@@bobcat8439 I asked My Son in law we’re I could install on in my house.. HE KNOWS HOW TO DO IT, BUT Wont.. he said if my house catches on fire my insurance wouldn’t pay off .. UNLESS PROFESSIONAL INSTALLATION.. this video doesn’t show using a triple pipe insulator.. ?
@@benholler1389 Maybe because that's one he's being paid to promote? Basically, the point is that people who live in cold climates should have a backup source of heat for emergencies.
We use something similar at our 3-bedroom Fishing Camp in Canada. Only real pain is having to get up during the night to add more firewood. Cabin is just over 100 years old and that heater/stove has been here for over 40 years. We bring new Smoke Detectors/ CO2 Detectors every year but never an issue. Amusing reading many Safety Sally comments. All part of the New fragile America.
Muskietime: thank you...I needed some 1st hand experience about these types...I'm lady in 70s off grid cabin with temps nights mornings dip to teens & single digits...my antique woodstove blew out seams & sealers weren't holding & pipes started breaking jagged holes. Prices new cast iron stoves & double pipes increased beyond what I had saved back for new stuff. People keep telling me just get one of these campstoves to get by but companies warn only for outdoor use. Why would they put out more Co2? Seam leakage? I'm so weary being cold numb a'll night & morning. Appreciate your story, comforts me.
@@patriciamampel3601 I am sorry for your struggles but very impressed with your strength. Be sure you have a tight seal ducting (inside and out) as you do not want carbon monoxide buildup in side the home. Also, be aware of carbon buildup (need to clean the flu every year) as it can ignite if not maintained. Lastly, as mentioned before, please have at least one working carbon monoxide alarm in the area.
@Petal Pusher Unfortunately, nature only provides the trees that are around you. In some areas such as around our cabin on a Shield Lake in Canada, the soil is sparse and hardwoods rarely grow.
@@muskietime did you ever get a decent stove, I'm in the states, I don't think there's much I could do to help, but the idea of a lady in her 70s freezing all night really bothers me.
This is the worlds best stove. I have had one that was built in 1990. I am an outfitter and hunter for over 55 years and this stove is my favorite camping stove. Thanks Cylinder Stove of Utah.
We used to have a 55 gallon drum converted to a wood stove & that thing saved us every winter when the power enevitabily went out due to ice taking out power lines. Cant beat wood heat either 🥰
I'll stick with my kerosene heater. Kerosene can last for years, properly stored. A 1/2 gallon in my heater(a rectangular one, with removable tank, heats up to 500sq feet, fits my needs) lasts for 14 hours, so that's 140 hrs, almost 6 days, from one 5 gallon can(I have multiple 5 gallon cans). This has worked well for me over the last 40 years(I've replace the heater about once every decade)and I live rural in northern MI. It has never failed me in a power outage and since I'm almost 70, this is very easy for me to fill(I fill the tank outside), start and run. I've always had a CM detector(update that every 3-4 years)which has never gone off.
That's cool to have and I think everyone should have kerosene or propane heaters. But there could come in time when we can't get kerosene anymore but surely we could find some wood.
Thank You for sharing this video. Especially being that You had NOTHING to gain. It was to let other's know about the ability to have emergency (operative word) heat, cooking stove and hot water. All things that are very basic in a Non-Emergency situation. Your above description was incredibly clear as was your video. I appreciate your taking the time to make this and share it. Be Safe and Well.
We had a small cast iron stove and made sure to protect the wall. Glad we had it because that's the only way we survived the ice storm. We were without power for a whole month.
Good idea, in Germany the most people on the country side have wood stoves generally, additionally I have a diesel generator as well, a fresh water well is already in my garden, means well prepared.
Set the stove on fireproof material such as patio blocks. Put a vertical section of stove pipe before the spark arrestor (even better, use a chimney cap). install multiple CO alarms. Keep someone awake and alert while using the stove like this. Someone on "Firewatch"
We live with a homemade woodstove and been using it for 10yrs. Yes, set it up on blocks, but also use some sheet metal on the blocks that the stove sits on and also some mounted two inches away from the wall behind the stove to protect the wall. And if the pipe is clear, co will not come into the house. That most alawys happens due to clogged stovepipe. And firewatch? Not needed. But on really cold nights one does need to get up to feed the stove.
@@dan0711123: Only problem with the barrelstove kits is that it has the barrel on its side and you can not cook on it. BUT, I took a 25 gal steel oil drum and turned it into an upright barrel stove so we can cook on top and it works great. Been using it for 10yrs now. And folks ask how it is that the fire has not eaten through and here is the trick, do not clean the soot out of teh top half of the stove. It acts as a barrier against the fire eating through the top.
We heat with wood all winter, my husband was a fire fighter always states how dangerous this type of stovepipe can be causing house fires, even if you use double wall stove pipe. If you ever have a fire in the pipes you need to completely replace the pipes because more houses burn down if not replaced. You need to know what your doing to stay safe.
The huge problem is they don’t know or realize what needs to be done to maintain their chimney system, especially if they use green or wet wood which builds creosote in their pipes or chimney. In other words it’s a disaster waiting to happen.
Everyone I have seen putting wood stoves in their homes do not use a block chimney instead used insulated pipe, this what I was explaining. The temporary stove can also be dangerous if you don’t know what your doing, you can still get too hot a fire and have problems.
It's interesting how you set this up because I have a Colorado Cylinder Stove and I set mine up the same way. My stove sits on a fireproof blanket and I use a cement backer board to protect the wall. I have used it in two real-life situations where we lost power for over 12 hours (and it was 0 - 10 degrees Fahrenheit outside). I don't have the little oven attachment but that also seems like a good idea. The water jacket is also a great addition for things like coffee, soup, and dishwashing.
!!! Darn algorithms! This is EXACTLY what I was looking for last year. I finally went to the expense of installing a permanent wood stove but this would have been MUCH better for my needs.
everyone in Texas should be researching these stoves no one would be cold.... great idea we have pellet stove but with no electricity doesn't work this would be awesome!
Back in 1978 my parents moved into another house on the South Side of Glasgow. There was an AGA jacketed stove in the kitchen. It was plumped into the central heating (CH) system. They shared the water heating for the CH and a hot water holding tank in the attic. Only problem was the CH needed an electric pump to move the hot water around the 3 storey house. There were 7 trees in the garden that my father & I cut down. There was also a full coal shed left by the previous owners. Back them milk came in 2pint cardboard cartons. We kept them and filled them with a mixture of coal n wood n paper. With the way that Gas prices are rising in the UK, I wish I had that in my house.
A cold air intake is a good idea to, just have another tube going to the bottom of the plywood to the stoves damper,it stops the stove from drawing air from the home, making it safer for co2 and stopping cold spots.
@CJ Wilemon Yea but you missed what he said about the cold spots, the drafts the fire causes by consuming o2. If you don't hook the combustion air intake to a pipe leading outside, then your stove will cause a vacuum in the living space and now those little cracks anywhere and everywhere in the house will be blowing because of the negative pressure your stove fire created in the living space. If you bought a new wood stove, a real one, it will have like a 6" input combustion air intake connector for 6" pipe, and it is for what he is talking about, to run outside. But in this case not thru a window either. But you get the point, it stops the vacuum in the living areas and now instead of having negative pressure allowing all the doors and windows blow cold air right at you, you will now be building a positive air pressure in the living area because your are heating it, and this is the point, now the drafts stop/slow down. You have positive pressure now and any crack the air flows out not in, and the windows won't act like they are open blowing a draft across the room to your fire. Depends on your windows, and your house but you might always feel a draft no matter what, but it helps to not suck o2 out of your living areas with fired appliances, so much safer anyway. Note: all your fired appliances should be hooked up like that nowadays. Your water heater, furnace, wood stove, etc... high efficiency furnaces and water heaters will have combustion inputs hooked outside. Modern wood stoves have them too, real ones.
My thanks to WWH for taking time to make this video, strictly for the benefit of others. It's an excellent suggestion and one I'd never before considered, even though I've been looking at these stoves for winter camping for quite some time. Kinda justifies buying MORE camping gear. Roy, this is for EMERGENCY USE and will obviously be attended to at all times. A spark is NOT going to ignite a piece of plywood and burn down the house. Some tinfoil around the wood would do the same thing and not require purchasing a sheet of "Cement Board" (which will be a crumbly mess as soon as someone steps on it). For a temporary set-up of a few days or a week or two at most knowing what to use from what we already have readily at hand is useful. There are obviously safety considerations, such as ventilation, chimney support, rain deflection, wall protection etc, but when the SHTF anyone with a modicum of common sense could make this work.
you better rig up a brace leg for the outer end of the chimney pipe or the first high wind or snow load will take it down. and yes, a large fast snow fall will NOT melt on the exhaust end of the pipe unless you have a raging fire going.
Make sure you have a large supply of seasoned hardwood cut and split to fit in the stove as well. There should also be a damper in the pipe above the oven. Also don't forget kindling and newspaper.
I gather sticks for kindling, never burning brush outside. I bet you could cook/heat w/ just sticks in an emergency (if no firewood) since it's so small.
Exactly. Without fuel, this stove is a giant paperweight. The fuel is more important than the stove, IMO. You could always improvise some way to burn the fuel, as long as you did it safely. But without a large fuel supply at hand, you're hosed.
wow. the whole using plywood in the window thing, blew my mind away. here I am a new home owner, wanting a small wood stove as emergency & preactical method to reduce my heating cost, and I honestly thought i would have to cut a whole in my house to install it. This is actually quite nice temp. solution to heat things up inside.
One more elbow, on the outside of the house, and you will have the pipe vertical but a little away from the house. You can then easily secure it with banding strap to the house.
@@xtreker15 I originally set my stove up using the large steel oil drip guards (not to be confused with the little round oil pans). These drip guards are about 3' X 4' in size. They worked great but I ended up replacing them with some cement board because they tended to get a little hot. I also ended up getting a fire blanket for the floor and it works well too.
I have a wood stove in my livingroom. Professionally installed. The peace of mind is worth the money ten times over. With the things going on in the world today, it's not out-of-line to think we could lose power for long periods of time this winter. Remember Texas last year? If you lose power in December, the insurance company will be the furthest thing from your mind. Freezing to death will be your main concern. Install it like he says to and you should be fine. Use your head; take anything combustable (easy to ignite and catch fire) and move it away at least 4-5 feet. Don't run the chimney outside too close to the house or deck or trees, etc. Stock up on wood. Cut the plywood for the window and fit it now, before you need it. That way, if you lose power you're not trying to do it in the middle of a storm, and with no power! Then, you can just leave it sit in the garage or basement ready to be installed in a few minutes. Good firewood can be found easily pretty much anywhere right now. I'd get some now. Old pallets make great firewood for a stove like this, and it burns well. Pine will leave too much pitch in the chimney that could cause a chimney-fire fairly soon. Pine is used for framing houses (think construction sites), which is where a lot of people will think to get firewood first. Not a great idea.
You do realize that the OSB plywood is mainly GLUE AND WOOD CHIPS Which BURNS/IGNITES REAL EASY 🔥🔥🔥 Do yourself huge favor and use DURA ROCK CEMENT BOARDS used for a underlayment for ceramic tile floors /walls 👍
As a former stove installer I have to say this setup will likely result in your house burning down. I applaud the DIY attitude. It may serve you well to research proper freestanding stove installation techniques and code in your state.
After watching this dangerous ad, I thought I would see a lot of messages like yours. But not so. Not at all. I have reported the channel, because of this wildly irresponsible ad, passing as some PSA. Those vent pipes will leak and burn. But those pipes are the only type they can cram into a DIY box, and ship to desperate people. You might want to complain as well. It seems most people don't know, or don't want to know simple facts.
Now safely attach the stovepipe while standing on the top step of your ladder. If you survive that you'll get to do it again after a breeze blows down the unsupported pipe.
It is always good to have a backup heat source. Whether it be a wood stove or a small generator to run your furnace and fridge. You can hook up a 110 volt box on the outside of your furnace to plug in a generator. It is better to have a electrician do it to be prepared for long term blackouts . You all have a blessed day.
you dont want to use a generator for heating, let it be your power plant if needed, but have another means to heat an cook. that was what was said on the self defense show "the best defense: survival"
@@feralbigdog I think he meant to run the igniter and blower fan off the generator. It'd be pretty involved as a DIY thing *even if done safely* but you _could_ get a tremendous amount of heat from the exhaust of a generator since likely only 20-25% of the fuels energy makes it into generating electricity. Purpose made devices are called "cogenerators" that use the waste heat for hot water and space heating, meant mostly for off-grid settings but in places with large heating loads the nearly 100% efficiency makes their operation cost competitive with grid powered heaters.
Just got a Kni-Co Alaskan stove recently and was wondering how to adapt it to work in the house in case of an emergency. And then this video pops up! This gives me a good place to start.
Thank you, "WWH Destruction" for this. Like many I'm looking for a solution to power outages in winter. Very likely we will see such this year, & prolly next few years, too. Have a GREAT day, Neighbor!
Plumbing and Mechanical codes have all the info you need on venting. I highly suggest you get familiar with those chapters and nix the info on this installation
The only problem I see with this is that there needs to be a rain cap on top of that chimney pipe with a spark arrestor built into it. It' suck to get a stove full of rain water
Can't you just turn the elbow joint sideways so that it's not facing directly up? Old-style British chimneys had a t-joint on top of the flue so the smoke went out the sides and rain didn't come in the top, so I don't see why smoke wouldn't come out of this if the joint was turned to the side.
Well, as you show it, with the oven, water heater, etc, looks to be more like $800 or more. Not exactly the cost of 1 month insurance. Also, you need to support that chimney or the first gust of wind will blow it down. And you need a collar to seal around the pipe where it goes outside. And you need a damper to control the draft. And it should be sitting on a fireproof plate, not a hunk of burnable plywood. And of course you need saws and splitting equipment, and a place to dry the wood. And the wood you bring in will also bring in spiders, ticks, etc.
If the stove is running during the rain, the pipe will be hot enough to vapor off the rain. Same if it is snowing. BUT! One can get some "stove rope" that is fiberglass rope for sealing parts of woodstoves such as the door and what we have here, the stove pipe. Wrap the length of rope you need with some aluminum foil and then press it into place going from the outside in. That will solve any potential issues. Also, I would run some bare wire to wrap around the stovepipe and attach the ends to the eves so the wind does not blow the pipe away.
For sure everyone needs to be more prepared. I’m really hoping that people learned from all of the shortages of different essentials recently. I consider myself a prepper, and I learned areas of preparing that I need to improve on.
My question is, if you have the end of the chimney pointing upwards...won’t it get full of rain or snow? Also if it’s not fixed to the wall it could just break off in the wind?.....anyway thanks for the video....interesting stove and idea...
The snow & rain will melt & evaporate as it gets closer to the heat. But it would be a good idea to replace it with a covered vent for the time its not in use.
I bought their biggest model this week. With the added water tank and the essential components (no oven) it came to just under $800 (shipping was about $160). Should take 3 weeks to arrive.
@@cironicholas526 cast iron lasts forever and there are stove ovens that are 100 lbs. you can move anywhere. This thing will burn out in less than a decade should you actually need it for any period of time.
Penny Kelly said it's 7 to 9 years from height of the mini ice age in northern climes (e.g. Canada) - people in the Northern hemisphere definitely need this kind of solution/wood burning stove.
While I like the idea of an emergency heat source, this set up is dangerous as it is shown for a few reasons! The Flake Board is one problem here! Please consider Cement Board instead on the floor. It is used in showers and bath surrounds so should be readily available. With a non flammable floor area no spark falling on the floor is a problem! This would make this safer assuming a carbon dioxide and smoke detector are also part of the package! Also keep in mind that a makeshift chimney could easily back draw and smoke inside your home with just the opening of a door or window causing a negative draft! If doing this for an emergency situation, I personally would either not burn when sleeping or if too cold at night, suffer and babysit the stove, while the children sleep then shift off when your partner can takes over! And did I say the obvious, a fire extinguisher! I have lots of experience with small stoves. Beats freezing for sure but just be aware of the dangers! All the bestRoy
Interesting thx for posting. Do a lot of winter hot tent camping in -40 and wind will blow that chimney apart. Hook 3 s hooks onto end and then use string to tie it down in 3 directions.
Wow, I've been looking into trying to install a wood burning fire place because of these power outages, but in an emergency this is very doable. Doesn't even have to be this stove, anything else will do as long as you have the right venting system.
Next year im buying property and moving into a 16x20 canvas wall tent for a couple years. Same kind of stove the tents use....Trying to save enough money up to buy me a nice 30 foot camper to live in..
My wife and I built our own home some 40 years ago, it has a 3/4 basement and in it we have a large wood stove. It is flat topped and comes in very handy as both a heat source for out home and to cook on. This looks like a good emergency set up when the power goes out, but I suggest you set it up and use it to get familiar with its operation. And you will need to obtain some aged firewood as you cannot just go out into your back yard in an emergency and make some. Do not expect this stove to solve all your problems however, because in a power outage, you will soon lose all your food in both refrigerator and freezer unless you have a generator and fuel for it. So canned food that you like is a necessity. Finally consider what you need for lighting. Long burn candles can help a lot, but you will not be able to read a book using them. Keep several flashlights and some packs of appropriate sized batteries also available. This should be the basics of what you need….food, water, heat, lighting, and a way to cook. If you have to, you can live a week without bathing. Keep a few bottles of scented rubbing alcohol on hand, put on wash cloth, rub over face, hair, arms, and then the stinky parts to keep clean.
I like emergency & preparedness ideas like this. I'm thankful for my fenced in kitchen garden that we started in 2016. My family are making it look like ordinary plants & small trees in a minimal kept yard. When they are mostly edible. Outside the fence are some thorny Bougainvilleas that don't flower much, but disguises & covers what's inside the fence. I tell my kids not to spend too much time on social media. They understand that there are things they can post & things they shouldn't. That or get compromised in case of mass panic. It's a great help that we don't have to risk often going to the stores, with covid19 going on. That some 60 percent of what we eat these days are from the yard. The territory where we live is tropical (another thing I'm grateful for.) So no need for indoor heating. What we have is our diy outdoor covered barbecue grill. And that we gather & store dried fallen twigs at anytime we can get it. We like to think that we're ready for what's to come, but every little bit goes a long way. :edit: please weld to seal all the joints to this stove/fire place. The base shouldn't be wood but a thick tile or cheap piece of granite. The pipe outside should be screwed tied with metal to the roof or wall. Sorry I don't know a lot but, so it won't fly off?
im curious about something, that is a lot of length on the chimney outside the window and i dont see anything there to support it, and i saw nothing about sealing around where the pipe went through the boot you screwed to the board in the window.
This was a guide. Use your own common sense.There is no need to "seal" the pass-through. if you want to, be my guest. There are many ways it could be done. The takeaway from here should be, one of these stoves could be a lifesaver. Some might not make it.
I've had woodstoves for the last 40 years, I can't imagine being without one! I can heat with electricity, and do, and I have free electricity thanks to a large credit with my utility via my grid tied wind, solar, and hydro system. BUT, if the grid goes down, I'm screwed! It's good to know I have a couple years worth of firewood out in the shed.
Interesting. Many years ago, I made a rocket stove ( 2 old propane tanks) heater, water heater ( will actually create steam), cooker and built an oven hooked into the exhaust pipe made out of 2 ammo cans. A lot like your set up.
Using galvanized pipe indoors (with sublimating zinc) is insane and not screwing the pipes together is even more insane. No chimney cap is also great so you can get gallons of water inside in heavy rains.
You really need more insulation in the plywood, that stove pipe can get really hot. Keep checking the plywood often (where it goes thru) to make sure it is not getting too hot.
This youtube said terrorist attack. Lincoln predicted that no one can mess with the USA. We are destined to live through the ages as free men or die by our own hand. I am having trouble telling the difference between 80's Russia and 20's USA
Another Texan here preparing for the next disaster also. I have been welding on my wood heater that I'm building from two large air compressor tanks my old job gave me. It will be an outdoor unit piped inside. It's time to prepare to go "Grizzly Adams", style now that we know our Texas tax paid government officials will take luxury vacations on our tax dollors while the rest of us here have no power, heat or gas in freezing temperatures.
Your best investment is a generator and a heat pump type of air conditioner which is fairly common in Texas. Make sure your heat pump has a switch over box so you can plug your generator into it. What good is it to have an emergency wood stove? If you live in the burbs, where would you get emergency wood that is dry enough to burn in it?
Wonderful video and very informative. Personally, I would put fire-proof tile on the lower piece of plywood, just in case. Also, get some thin metal and use it, under the stove pipe, onto the plywood to protect the plywood from the intense heat of the stove pipe.
Really like the stove, but those HVAC elbows leak like a sieve. I know because I install them everyday and we are required to tape them or use sealant because they leak so bad.
If the pipes are galvanized they should be burned off outside as the off gas from the initial burns is highly toxic. This is an excellent vid. Suggestion: A stove jack at the least for the pipe going through the OSB/plywood. Risk of fire greatly reduced.
The stove is amazing absolutely looks great. Absolutely functional in all aspects. However, I must say that if any normal household in the city were to do this they would be fine because of the dangers and their house insurance would be void. Just a caution. The stove is absolutely 😊
In the city, they probably wouldn't have enough fuel to last more than a day or two. Furniture would be all burned up after one or two days. So, in the city, it's not really even a consideration unless you have a whole room filled with seasoned lumber.
So this isn’t an all-in-one kit. it’s two kits combined into one it’s an oven kit and a stove kit purchased separately. Just found out. Maybe it will help someone else.
Splendidly efficient when the grid fails if you live in a cold area and have a home. The kitchen is the heart of the home, we should feel hungry and cool occasionally or we fail to appreciate how fortunate we are to have a pie shop on suite.
I'm not a hater. I noticed the water spicket should be on the outside of your water tank and not on the inside. You decide, I'm just trying to save you grief from the haters is all
The next piece of pipe must go over the previous one (or the previous one must go inside the next one) starting with fireplace connection, here all next pieces going inside the previous ones what is potential carbon monoxide hazard. Those perforated ends of the pipe give you ideal channels to leak carbon monoxide into the house. It is an easy fix, unclear why it is done this way.
this is a commonly misunderstood topic. Within a minute or two of hot exhaust going up the chimney the entire vent will suck air into any cracks in the vent (opposite of pushing smokes exhaust out). This is called "drafting".
When you’ve assembled the stove according to the instructions in this video, be sure to call the fire department just before you light it so the have a head start to get to your house fire
Looks incredibly safe using all the particle board . Don’t give a second thought about that pesky roof overhang . Oh , your wife is gonna love the look too !
@@markmed9091 how is is going catch on fire there is no direct contact with any heated parts and the exhaust pipe has a space to let cooling air in around it as well as a metal adapter
@@chrissegee "chimney" pipe when running the stove properly will, depending on how far it is from the stove, run at anywhere from 400-700 degrees F....well above the flash temp for wood
It's a camping stove. Of course you're not going to have it installed all the time (seemed clear to me anyway). Keep it with your camping gear. Have it in an emergency. Don't know why anyone would need to hide it from one's "insurance guy"? The vast majority of insurance claims are for "flood damage", y' know, like when pipes burst? Staying in one's home and protecting one's property during an emergency is the best insurance.
@@UguysRnuts wood stoves are slowly going extinct due to insurance companies dropping customers that have them. I don’t agree with it, but it’s happening.
Bought this wood stove a few weeks back here in Alaska. Will be installing it in my small cabin temporarily while I finish the interior of my cabin. It's super cold at the moment -10 bought I have to get work done. Since it's a 5inch wood stove pipe hole can you just buy 5 inch pipe through out the length of the remaining pipe....since the pipe that comes with it varies in size as goes away from the stove..since it original use is for a tent and just goes straight upward. Thanks for the upload.
THE GUY MADE A GOOD VIDEO. , ( it forces a lot of people to ask the right questions ) If any one sees this and thinks, this is safe and great.. please I beg you, talk to a professional before install and your home owners insurance..! I would not use this more than 96 hours, and never ever leave it unattended.. Again, I think it is awesome job on video , the quality and editing. I just wouldn't use this in a long term or keep up ready to go. THIS IS A TEMP IDEA FOR A " fold up up and place in garage and have it on stand by"..so u can install , yes... this should be a temp thing - up and down.
Living in a townhome & this would be a choice for a TEMPORARY way to heat & cook. Also consider cement sheetrock for under the stove & the sides to protect walls etc.
For an emergency stove, it's an ok idea. For a main source of heat, a very poor idea. Without internal baffling, the majority of the heat escapes through the stovepipe. The only benefit is that the pipe is single wall. That gives a bit of extra heat. Best thing to do it to get an actual wood burning stove that has a cooking shelf. The new ones are extremely efficient. Efficiency equals saving money because wood will last longer, and you'll need less of it.
This is exactly what I was looking or in case of a shtf situtation ,or some lesser emergency situation that affected the average home owner from obtaining natural gas, oil, or propane on a regular basis to heat their homes. As for me, that would be propane. I have tons of wood around me so this stove would work for me. However, I would recommend taking the necessary steps to make it more fire proof.
The problem i see with this might be that the stove pipe is not high enough on the house. A chimney is supposed to be higher than the peak of your roof or you might get a downdraft if there is any wind.
@@jonrosenow5812 Actually you are supposed to measure 10ft from your chimney to a level point on your roof then add two feet or more to the chimney height. Any peak that is within 10 feet of the chimney can compete with the chimney. This can cause draft problems. This is why the rule calls for the chimney to extend 2 feet above any structure within 10 feet of the chimney. This chimney is piped so crazy it just might work or not... LOL.
I think we will get one of these just in case. I wouldn’t use it on a day to day basis, but it would be great to have if you don’t have power esp th le way things are going.
Wow, folks please note that he is saying “in an emergency “ what your “insurance company says” is a nonexistent background noise when your family is freezing in an emergency situation. Most of you folks probably have an app telling you when to drink water or go to bed for you as well. The government is not your friend and they certainly are not there to help you. Be self sufficient.
I couldn't agree with you more 100% the government is not your friend just ask the people after Katrina
Most are dead people walking.
Totally!
hahahahaha good one
Amen brother
Light a fire in that or any woodstove outside of the house before you use it inside. You need to burn off any oil or chemical residue before using it indoors. Survival stoves are not supposed to kill you
good point and great advice
Wrong, I used to help install stoves. Their first firing was by us and in the home. You just have to know what you're doing.
I used to install stoves for a living. Respectfully, you are wrong. More importantly, don't set this up like this guy did with no stoveback. You'll burn your house down easily if installed like in this video.
@@jerrodlopes186 I know you're not talking to me.. right. I ran a Blaze King for 10 years with OSB all around it, never had a problem. All it did was get a little warm.
But this guy's chimney I will agree is a bit dubious. Should have at least double wall if not triple going through that plywood.
Thanks for that very important information. What is a stove back, and were do we get it, or do we have to make it? Thanks
Hi I am a educated chimney sweeper in my country, with 10 years behind me.
This stove looks okay to me, if there is and guide for fire safety, and installation.
But I can see some major security breaches on the fire safety.
First the chimney pipe must be safely fastened, to something strong and not flammable material. And keep at least 3+ inches to flammable material all around.
Secondly. The Stove Shall never ever stand on an flammable material, but on stones / clinkers / metal or Heated Glass (I do not regiment heated glass due to it is to heavy an it can break) I'd recommend 20+ inches in front of the stove, and to the sides 6+ inches. Be aware of that the plate need to be goes all the way to the wall behind the stove in a square shape. (This is so if you drop some sparkle or bigger in the dark there is a lot less chance of fire inside the house.)
For the third. For the stove to flammable material, there need to be at least 3+ inches all around. Or whatever the manufaktur prescribe.
(!!Remember to always follow the manufacturers advice!!)
And if you want any other boring advies I am here.
GREAT advice!!!!! Most people don't want to know how to do it correctly. But when their house burns down, it is all everyone else's fault. Great post.
Hmm the combustion chamber is fine yet any bigger you will need b-vent material if you would like to get deeper into the aspects of the install the oven part changes its over all volume related to combustion factors which is the only reason you are allowed single wall pipe in this situation. Also when installing 26gauge 4inch for exhaust venting please install it going in the proper direction the crimped end away from the combustion box. This will prevent a down draft from blowing carbon monoxide into your home during said emergency situation. Also remember tolerances are based on btu burn rates and the size of the burn box for the amount of ash soot and carbon left in the box on an average burn hour. Please always remember to clean the burner box area as excess ash and hot coals could burn through the burner box the reason for never mounting on wood. If you must use this save me stove buy a piece of durarock concrete board 1/2 will be sufficient to prevent a what if scenario till you can put out the ash if it does burn through and lands on the floor plus durarock is fire resistant for number of hours. anything bigger the burn box would need the proper stone hearth to prevent heat damage to the floor and surrounding areas this obviously not a cast iron design. I'm also in the heating cooling industry I'm even thinking I may want one of these for my self. Just to have in that what if moment
Couldn't the stove be placed on Hardibacker, as well as the back wall?
I was thinking the same thing. Never put flammable material under or around the stove. Make sure to allow plenty of space around it. Those things get HOT!!!
@@THEGLASSMANSWORLD Yes
Need to Protect wall behind it- yeah, insurances won’t like it.. but better than dying. Also- I would put wire to support pipe outside from weight of snow or strong winds 💥
And the floor. We melted our tile once.
Cover the board under it with ceramic tiles. Won't take many and you might find leftover ones very cheap.
Scott S. your insurance people are humans. If SHTF they're gonna be home trying to figure out how to survive too. Not in the office pushing pencils and making phone calls. If the grid goes down, none of that will even be possible. THINK
@@occamsrazor7939 Put pavers stones under it. Flat ones.
@@johnchandler1687 ceramic tile will conduct heat
I am standing in front of this exact stove warming up in my old 12 x 20 Cabelas tent while I watch this!!
I have owned the same exact stove for a few years now. It puts out alot of heat and is very portable. I used several times in winter during power outages. Heats your home and cook on it and the water tank on the side is awesome for hot water. Gives you peace of mind that you have an option in a bind if something happens.
Why would you want to invade on somebody! Don't forget someone can do the Same to you!
Does the finish on it create fumes?
Can someone please tell me where I can find this wood stove oven
Will it heat up an entire small 2 story home or will it just create a hot spot in the area it's in?
Do you vent it out a window too? I want to get one.
Better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it. Also, as a Marine Vet. Having canned foods, plenty of extra water containers and MRE's is also a great thing to have.
Excuse me, what is MRE ? I'm not american that's probably why I ask you this !
@@intuition7228 MEAL READY to EAT. what is use in most militaries.
@@irockz281982 Thank you for your reply. I agree with you. In fact, to be autonomous is the only option today as many troubles are coming in front of us.
@@intuition7228
All MRE's are not created equal as far as taste is concerned. So if you consider stockpiling these try them first and find which ones you like and which ones you don't like
@@markgiltner7358 Thank you, that's what I do already since 2 years. I invite people around me to do the same, they laugh and take me for an oddball ! I don't care, and continue to do so :-)
ha! I'm glad I'm not the only one watching this video FOR THIS WINTER CONSIDERATIONS, even though the video is over 4 years old---I would actually like to install a more permanent cast iron wood burning stove---but it would be a bigger renovation that this quickie. Still, it would be great in an Emergency.
That's a certain fire Hazzard check my comments
Live in AZ still watching this video wtf does that tell you?
@@bobcat8439 I asked My Son in law we’re I could install on in my house.. HE KNOWS HOW TO DO IT, BUT Wont.. he said if my house catches on fire my insurance wouldn’t pay off .. UNLESS PROFESSIONAL INSTALLATION..
this video doesn’t show using a triple pipe insulator.. ?
Nah I'm planning the same
We installed one in our livingroom last year. It's worth every penny. If it's at all possible, install a real wood stove. You won't regret it.
Here in my country we must heat with stove every winter,because the electricity cost's are the highest in Europe.I live in Poland.
The key thing about this wood stove is that it is portable. It would be a good thing to have along with a generator.
Yes you are very right lol, have a great day.
Why not just properly install a woodstove designed to heat a house? Why does it have to be a POS portable one with a really sketchy install?
Let's throw all safety precautions out the window to gain portability because if you're not always testing the edge, are you even living?
@@benholler1389 Maybe because that's one he's being paid to promote? Basically, the point is that people who live in cold climates should have a backup source of heat for emergencies.
@@frankmiller95 the part he missed was that people in cold climates should have a SAFE form of backup heat.
We use something similar at our 3-bedroom Fishing Camp in Canada. Only real pain is having to get up during the night to add more firewood.
Cabin is just over 100 years old and that heater/stove has been here for over 40 years.
We bring new Smoke Detectors/ CO2 Detectors every year but never an issue.
Amusing reading many Safety Sally comments. All part of the New fragile America.
Muskietime: thank you...I needed some 1st hand experience about these types...I'm lady in 70s off grid cabin with temps nights mornings dip to teens & single digits...my antique woodstove blew out seams & sealers weren't holding & pipes started breaking jagged holes. Prices new cast iron stoves & double pipes increased beyond what I had saved back for new stuff. People keep telling me just get one of these campstoves to get by but companies warn only for outdoor use. Why would they put out more Co2? Seam leakage? I'm so weary being cold numb a'll night & morning. Appreciate your story, comforts me.
@@patriciamampel3601 I am sorry for your struggles but very impressed with your strength.
Be sure you have a tight seal ducting (inside and out) as you do not want carbon monoxide buildup in side the home. Also, be aware of carbon buildup (need to clean the flu every year) as it can ignite if not maintained. Lastly, as mentioned before, please have at least one working carbon monoxide alarm in the area.
@Petal Pusher Unfortunately, nature only provides the trees that are around you. In some areas such as around our cabin on a Shield Lake in Canada, the soil is sparse and hardwoods rarely grow.
@@muskietime did you ever get a decent stove, I'm in the states, I don't think there's much I could do to help, but the idea of a lady in her 70s freezing all night really bothers me.
@@notsure9735 I too am in the States. Our stove/heater is 40 years old.
This is the worlds best stove. I have had one that was built in 1990. I am an outfitter and hunter for over 55 years and this stove is my favorite camping stove. Thanks Cylinder Stove of Utah.
We used to have a 55 gallon drum converted to a wood stove & that thing saved us every winter when the power enevitabily went out due to ice taking out power lines. Cant beat wood heat either 🥰
I'll stick with my kerosene heater. Kerosene can last for years, properly stored. A 1/2 gallon in my heater(a rectangular one, with removable tank, heats up to 500sq feet, fits my needs) lasts for 14 hours, so that's 140 hrs, almost 6 days, from one 5 gallon can(I have multiple 5 gallon cans). This has worked well for me over the last 40 years(I've replace the heater about once every decade)and I live rural in northern MI. It has never failed me in a power outage and since I'm almost 70, this is very easy for me to fill(I fill the tank outside), start and run. I've always had a CM detector(update that every 3-4 years)which has never gone off.
Where can you get one?
Plus kerosene heater won't stink up the neighbourhood and draw unwanted attention from others
That's cool to have and I think everyone should have kerosene or propane heaters. But there could come in time when we can't get kerosene anymore but surely we could find some wood.
@@jeremyhula931 Even wood will be tough to find in a real crisis. Thinking and innovation is needed for another source of power for heat and cooking.
How and where to get a kerosene heater and how to set it up and operate?
Thank You for sharing this video. Especially being that You had NOTHING to gain. It was to let other's know about the ability to have emergency (operative word) heat, cooking stove and hot water. All things that are very basic in a Non-Emergency situation. Your above description was incredibly clear as was your video. I appreciate your taking the time to make this and share it. Be Safe and Well.
We had a small cast iron stove and made sure to protect the wall. Glad we had it because that's the only way we survived the ice storm. We were without power for a whole month.
Where was this? And for how long ago?
Good idea, in Germany the most people on the country side have wood stoves generally, additionally I have a diesel generator as well, a fresh water well is already in my garden, means well prepared.
Set the stove on fireproof material such as patio blocks. Put a vertical section of stove pipe before the spark arrestor (even better, use a chimney cap). install multiple CO alarms. Keep someone awake and alert while using the stove like this. Someone on "Firewatch"
Very good advice, thank you.
You been in the military too long... Fire watch my butt
We live with a homemade woodstove and been using it for 10yrs. Yes, set it up on blocks, but also use some sheet metal on the blocks that the stove sits on and also some mounted two inches away from the wall behind the stove to protect the wall. And if the pipe is clear, co will not come into the house. That most alawys happens due to clogged stovepipe. And firewatch? Not needed. But on really cold nights one does need to get up to feed the stove.
Try cement board underneath the stove . A cheap alternative would be a barrel stove kit for a bout 60 bucks
@@dan0711123: Only problem with the barrelstove kits is that it has the barrel on its side and you can not cook on it. BUT, I took a 25 gal steel oil drum and turned it into an upright barrel stove so we can cook on top and it works great. Been using it for 10yrs now. And folks ask how it is that the fire has not eaten through and here is the trick, do not clean the soot out of teh top half of the stove. It acts as a barrier against the fire eating through the top.
We heat with wood all winter, my husband was a fire fighter always states how dangerous this type of stovepipe can be causing house fires, even if you use double wall stove pipe. If you ever have a fire in the pipes you need to completely replace the pipes because more houses burn down if not replaced. You need to know what your doing to stay safe.
That's why you clean the stack everytime you clear out all your old ash
The huge problem is they don’t know or realize what needs to be done to maintain their chimney system, especially if they use green or wet wood which builds creosote in their pipes or chimney. In other words it’s a disaster waiting to happen.
Everyone I have seen putting wood stoves in their homes do not use a block chimney instead used insulated pipe, this what I was explaining. The temporary stove can also be dangerous if you don’t know what your doing, you can still get too hot a fire and have problems.
It's interesting how you set this up because I have a Colorado Cylinder Stove and I set mine up the same way. My stove sits on a fireproof blanket and I use a cement backer board to protect the wall. I have used it in two real-life situations where we lost power for over 12 hours (and it was 0 - 10 degrees Fahrenheit outside). I don't have the little oven attachment but that also seems like a good idea. The water jacket is also a great addition for things like coffee, soup, and dishwashing.
!!! Darn algorithms! This is EXACTLY what I was looking for last year. I finally went to the expense of installing a permanent wood stove but this would have been MUCH better for my needs.
Here in Finland, we all have a solid fireplace in case of an emergency.
everyone in Texas should be researching these stoves no one would be cold.... great idea we have pellet stove but with no electricity doesn't work this would be awesome!
Back in 1978 my parents moved into another house on the South Side of Glasgow. There was an AGA jacketed stove in the kitchen. It was plumped into the central heating (CH) system. They shared the water heating for the CH and a hot water holding tank in the attic. Only problem was the CH needed an electric pump to move the hot water around the 3 storey house. There were 7 trees in the garden that my father & I cut down. There was also a full coal shed left by the previous owners. Back them milk came in 2pint cardboard cartons. We kept them and filled them with a mixture of coal n wood n paper.
With the way that Gas prices are rising in the UK, I wish I had that in my house.
A cold air intake is a good idea to, just have another tube going to the bottom of the plywood to the stoves damper,it stops the stove from drawing air from the home, making it safer for co2 and stopping cold spots.
@CJ Wilemon Yea but you missed what he said about the cold spots, the drafts the fire causes by consuming o2. If you don't hook the combustion air intake to a pipe leading outside, then your stove will cause a vacuum in the living space and now those little cracks anywhere and everywhere in the house will be blowing because of the negative pressure your stove fire created in the living space.
If you bought a new wood stove, a real one, it will have like a 6" input combustion air intake connector for 6" pipe, and it is for what he is talking about, to run outside. But in this case not thru a window either. But you get the point, it stops the vacuum in the living areas and now instead of having negative pressure allowing all the doors and windows blow cold air right at you, you will now be building a positive air pressure in the living area because your are heating it, and this is the point, now the drafts stop/slow down. You have positive pressure now and any crack the air flows out not in, and the windows won't act like they are open blowing a draft across the room to your fire. Depends on your windows, and your house but you might always feel a draft no matter what, but it helps to not suck o2 out of your living areas with fired appliances, so much safer anyway.
Note: all your fired appliances should be hooked up like that nowadays. Your water heater, furnace, wood stove, etc... high efficiency furnaces and water heaters will have combustion inputs hooked outside. Modern wood stoves have them too, real ones.
My thanks to WWH for taking time to make this video, strictly for the benefit of others. It's an excellent suggestion and one I'd never before considered, even though I've been looking at these stoves for winter camping for quite some time. Kinda justifies buying MORE camping gear. Roy, this is for EMERGENCY USE and will obviously be attended to at all times. A spark is NOT going to ignite a piece of plywood and burn down the house. Some tinfoil around the wood would do the same thing and not require purchasing a sheet of "Cement Board" (which will be a crumbly mess as soon as someone steps on it). For a temporary set-up of a few days or a week or two at most knowing what to use from what we already have readily at hand is useful. There are obviously safety considerations, such as ventilation, chimney support, rain deflection, wall protection etc, but when the SHTF anyone with a modicum of common sense could make this work.
you better rig up a brace leg for the outer end of the chimney pipe or the first high wind or snow load will take it down. and yes, a large fast snow fall will NOT melt on the exhaust end of the pipe unless you have a raging fire going.
Make sure you have a large supply of seasoned hardwood cut and split to fit in the stove as well. There should also be a damper in the pipe above the oven. Also don't forget kindling and newspaper.
I gather sticks for kindling, never burning brush outside. I bet you could cook/heat w/ just sticks in an emergency (if no firewood) since it's so small.
Exactly. Without fuel, this stove is a giant paperweight. The fuel is more important than the stove, IMO. You could always improvise some way to burn the fuel, as long as you did it safely. But without a large fuel supply at hand, you're hosed.
wow. the whole using plywood in the window thing, blew my mind away. here I am a new home owner, wanting a small wood stove as emergency & preactical method to reduce my heating cost, and I honestly thought i would have to cut a whole in my house to install it. This is actually quite nice temp. solution to heat things up inside.
Don't use plywood. Use concrete fiber board on the window and floor.
@@TheEnigmaticmuse thats actually a really good tip. plywood being wood still susceptible to a fire hazard.
Unlike a lot of comments on here I find this stove fascinating and I am grateful for you to educate us on options thank you so much!
That's a certain fire Hazzard
@@bobcat8439 …should change your username to scaredy-cat 843
@@gcarson19 I'm a chimney mason kid
@@gcarson19 if someones house burns down and someone dies either way he could get sued
One more elbow, on the outside of the house, and you will have the pipe vertical but a little away from the house. You can then easily secure it with banding strap to the house.
Great idea. I think I would try to replace the osb with cement board.
Not only that but on the floor as well. Reinforce it with plywood to make sure someone can't bust it in.
And make it a big enough piece so if embers fall out when adding more wood you don’t ruin that nice floor.
I was thinking cookie sheets on the lower part of the wall would be a better than not having anything there to protect the wall.
That’s smart
@@xtreker15 I originally set my stove up using the large steel oil drip guards (not to be confused with the little round oil pans). These drip guards are about 3' X 4' in size. They worked great but I ended up replacing them with some cement board because they tended to get a little hot. I also ended up getting a fire blanket for the floor and it works well too.
I have a wood stove in my livingroom. Professionally installed. The peace of mind is worth the money ten times over. With the things going on in the world today, it's not out-of-line to think we could lose power for long periods of time this winter. Remember Texas last year?
If you lose power in December, the insurance company will be the furthest thing from your mind. Freezing to death will be your main concern. Install it like he says to and you should be fine. Use your head; take anything combustable (easy to ignite and catch fire) and move it away at least 4-5 feet. Don't run the chimney outside too close to the house or deck or trees, etc. Stock up on wood. Cut the plywood for the window and fit it now, before you need it. That way, if you lose power you're not trying to do it in the middle of a storm, and with no power! Then, you can just leave it sit in the garage or basement ready to be installed in a few minutes.
Good firewood can be found easily pretty much anywhere right now. I'd get some now. Old pallets make great firewood for a stove like this, and it burns well. Pine will leave too much pitch in the chimney that could cause a chimney-fire fairly soon. Pine is used for framing houses (think construction sites), which is where a lot of people will think to get firewood first. Not a great idea.
Should you burn a fire in it outside to burn off paint fumes?
You do realize that the OSB plywood is mainly GLUE AND WOOD CHIPS
Which BURNS/IGNITES REAL EASY 🔥🔥🔥
Do yourself huge favor and use
DURA ROCK CEMENT BOARDS used for a underlayment for ceramic tile floors /walls 👍
Even fire rated gyprock
I was thinking pavers on the board.
I've been looking at these for about five years, I finally ordered one.
As a former stove installer I have to say this setup will likely result in your house burning down. I applaud the DIY attitude. It may serve you well to research proper freestanding stove installation techniques and code in your state.
After watching this dangerous ad, I thought I would see a lot of messages like yours. But not so. Not at all. I have reported the channel, because of this wildly irresponsible ad, passing as some PSA. Those vent pipes will leak and burn. But those pipes are the only type they can cram into a DIY box, and ship to desperate people. You might want to complain as well. It seems most people don't know, or don't want to know simple facts.
@Max Larson the S will surely HTF if you install a stove like this.
Now safely attach the stovepipe while standing on the top step of your ladder. If you survive that you'll get to do it again after a breeze blows down the unsupported pipe.
It is always good to have a backup heat source. Whether it be a wood stove or a small generator to run your furnace and fridge. You can hook up a 110 volt box on the outside of your furnace to plug in a generator. It is better to have a electrician do it to be prepared for long term blackouts . You all have a blessed day.
you dont want to use a generator for heating, let it be your power plant if needed, but have another means to heat an cook. that was what was said on the self defense show "the best defense: survival"
@@feralbigdog I think he meant to run the igniter and blower fan off the generator. It'd be pretty involved as a DIY thing *even if done safely* but you _could_ get a tremendous amount of heat from the exhaust of a generator since likely only 20-25% of the fuels energy makes it into generating electricity. Purpose made devices are called "cogenerators" that use the waste heat for hot water and space heating, meant mostly for off-grid settings but in places with large heating loads the nearly 100% efficiency makes their operation cost competitive with grid powered heaters.
Just got a Kni-Co Alaskan stove recently and was wondering how to adapt it to work in the house in case of an emergency. And then this video pops up! This gives me a good place to start.
Thank you, "WWH Destruction" for this.
Like many I'm looking for a solution to power outages in winter.
Very likely we will see such this year, & prolly next few years, too.
Have a GREAT day, Neighbor!
Plumbing and Mechanical codes have all the info you need on venting. I highly suggest you get familiar with those chapters and nix the info on this installation
Another good thing to have under any free standing stove is a sand box for any ashes or hot embers.
Does Amazon have them?
The only problem I see with this is that there needs to be a rain cap on top of that chimney pipe with a spark arrestor built into it. It' suck to get a stove full of rain water
Can't you just turn the elbow joint sideways so that it's not facing directly up? Old-style British chimneys had a t-joint on top of the flue so the smoke went out the sides and rain didn't come in the top, so I don't see why smoke wouldn't come out of this if the joint was turned to the side.
Really that's the only problem you see??? Not the absurdly unsafe clearance to combustibles. The zinc poisoning from the galvanized pipe etc?
@@benholler1389 hahaha!!! Hello Bholler :) I have come to help you counter the terrible dangerous misinformation on this video
If its warm enough to be raining, you'll probably survive without using this emergency stove.
@@kerim.peardon5551 Put 1lb coffee can on the screen. Does anybody even buy it that way any more?
Would a Kcup work?
Well, as you show it, with the oven, water heater, etc, looks to be more like $800 or more. Not exactly the cost of 1 month insurance. Also, you need to support that chimney or the first gust of wind will blow it down. And you need a collar to seal around the pipe where it goes outside. And you need a damper to control the draft. And it should be sitting on a fireproof plate, not a hunk of burnable plywood. And of course you need saws and splitting equipment, and a place to dry the wood. And the wood you bring in will also bring in spiders, ticks, etc.
With how he set the chimney up i cant wait till it rains.
If the stove is running during the rain, the pipe will be hot enough to vapor off the rain. Same if it is snowing. BUT! One can get some "stove rope" that is fiberglass rope for sealing parts of woodstoves such as the door and what we have here, the stove pipe. Wrap the length of rope you need with some aluminum foil and then press it into place going from the outside in. That will solve any potential issues. Also, I would run some bare wire to wrap around the stovepipe and attach the ends to the eves so the wind does not blow the pipe away.
As long as I'm not shivering, that is the least of my problem
You probably need a small metal umbrella on the exhaust pipe.... So nobody could shoot a photon torpedo through it... Right, Anakin??? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Wow!! Great info. Where can u by this stove from...
For sure everyone needs to be more prepared. I’m really hoping that people learned from all of the shortages of different essentials recently.
I consider myself a prepper, and I learned areas of preparing that I need to improve on.
My question is, if you have the end of the chimney pointing upwards...won’t it get full of rain or snow? Also if it’s not fixed to the wall it could just break off in the wind?.....anyway thanks for the video....interesting stove and idea...
The snow & rain will melt & evaporate as it gets closer to the heat. But it would be a good idea to replace it with a covered vent for the time its not in use.
I bought their biggest model this week. With the added water tank and the essential components (no oven) it came to just under $800 (shipping was about $160). Should take 3 weeks to arrive.
Where can you purchase it
Could have just bought a real stove.
@@tvviewer4500 I didn't want to deal with the weight of cast iron or the lack of portability.
@@cironicholas526 cast iron lasts forever and there are stove ovens that are 100 lbs. you can move anywhere. This thing will burn out in less than a decade should you actually need it for any period of time.
Where can I get one? Everytime I go to the listed website- it's blocked??
Penny Kelly said it's 7 to 9 years from height of the mini ice age in northern climes (e.g. Canada) - people in the Northern hemisphere definitely need this kind of solution/wood burning stove.
While I like the idea of an emergency heat source, this set up is dangerous as it is shown for a few reasons! The Flake Board is one problem here! Please consider Cement Board instead on the floor. It is used in showers and bath surrounds so should be readily available. With a non flammable floor area no spark falling on the floor is a problem! This would make this safer assuming a carbon dioxide and smoke detector are also part of the package! Also keep in mind that a makeshift chimney could easily back draw and smoke inside your home with just the opening of a door or window causing a negative draft! If doing this for an emergency situation, I personally would either not burn when sleeping or if too cold at night, suffer and babysit the stove, while the children sleep then shift off when your partner can takes over! And did I say the obvious, a fire extinguisher! I have lots of experience with small stoves. Beats freezing for sure but just be aware of the dangers! All the bestRoy
Interesting thx for posting. Do a lot of winter hot tent camping in -40 and wind will blow that chimney apart. Hook 3 s hooks onto end and then use string to tie it down in 3 directions.
Wow, I've been looking into trying to install a wood burning fire place because of these power outages, but in an emergency this is very doable. Doesn't even have to be this stove, anything else will do as long as you have the right venting system.
Next year im buying property and moving into a 16x20 canvas wall tent for a couple years. Same kind of stove the tents use....Trying to save enough money up to buy me a nice 30 foot camper to live in..
Can I get an update how well is this working for u
I have a fire place as a dutch oven and a volgalzang free standing stove both in my family room and always have at least 3 cords of wood .
My wife and I built our own home some 40 years ago, it has a 3/4 basement and in it we have a large wood stove. It is flat topped and comes in very handy as both a heat source for out home and to cook on. This looks like a good emergency set up when the power goes out, but I suggest you set it up and use it to get familiar with its operation. And you will need to obtain some aged firewood as you cannot just go out into your back yard in an emergency and make some. Do not expect this stove to solve all your problems however, because in a power outage, you will soon lose all your food in both refrigerator and freezer unless you have a generator and fuel for it. So canned food that you like is a necessity. Finally consider what you need for lighting. Long burn candles can help a lot, but you will not be able to read a book using them. Keep several flashlights and some packs of appropriate sized batteries also available. This should be the basics of what you need….food, water, heat, lighting, and a way to cook. If you have to, you can live a week without bathing. Keep a few bottles of scented rubbing alcohol on hand, put on wash cloth, rub over face, hair, arms, and then the stinky parts to keep clean.
I like emergency & preparedness ideas like this. I'm thankful for my fenced in kitchen garden that we started in 2016. My family are making it look like ordinary plants & small trees in a minimal kept yard. When they are mostly edible. Outside the fence are some thorny Bougainvilleas that don't flower much, but disguises & covers what's inside the fence. I tell my kids not to spend too much time on social media. They understand that there are things they can post & things they shouldn't. That or get compromised in case of mass panic. It's a great help that we don't have to risk often going to the stores, with covid19 going on. That some 60 percent of what we eat these days are from the yard. The territory where we live is tropical (another thing I'm grateful for.) So no need for indoor heating. What we have is our diy outdoor covered barbecue grill. And that we gather & store dried fallen twigs at anytime we can get it. We like to think that we're ready for what's to come, but every little bit goes a long way.
:edit: please weld to seal all the joints to this stove/fire place. The base shouldn't be wood but a thick tile or cheap piece of granite. The pipe outside should be screwed tied with metal to the roof or wall. Sorry I don't know a lot but, so it won't fly off?
The biggest concern is stockpiling 10X more fuel than you think you'll need in an "average" emergency. You'll probably still burn all of it.
PEOPLE DON'T DESERVE TO BE THIS PREPARED!!!!!
4 years later 11/2021 get idea. This is needed.
im curious about something, that is a lot of length on the chimney outside the window and i dont see anything there to support it, and i saw nothing about sealing around where the pipe went through the boot you screwed to the board in the window.
This was a guide. Use your own common sense.There is no need to "seal" the pass-through. if you want to, be my guest. There are many ways it could be done. The takeaway from here should be, one of these stoves could be a lifesaver. Some might not make it.
This is not meant to be a permanent fixture, just for emergencies. Video was more proof of concept.
I've had woodstoves for the last 40 years, I can't imagine being without one! I can heat with electricity, and do, and I have free electricity thanks to a large credit with my utility via my grid tied wind, solar, and hydro system. BUT, if the grid goes down, I'm screwed! It's good to know I have a couple years worth of firewood out in the shed.
Interesting. Many years ago, I made a rocket stove ( 2 old propane tanks) heater, water heater ( will actually create steam), cooker and built an oven hooked into the exhaust pipe made out of 2 ammo cans. A lot like your set up.
Using galvanized pipe indoors (with sublimating zinc) is insane and not screwing the pipes together is even more insane. No chimney cap is also great so you can get gallons of water inside in heavy rains.
You really need more insulation in the plywood, that stove pipe can get really hot. Keep checking the plywood often (where it goes thru) to make sure it is not getting too hot.
Dont you think you need to attach some sort of wire to the edge of the roof so to keep the chimney pipe in place?
Greetings,
Jeff
Texan here looking for future solutions :\
This youtube said terrorist attack. Lincoln predicted that no one can mess with the USA. We are destined to live through the ages as free men or die by our own hand. I am having trouble telling the difference between 80's Russia and 20's USA
YEP. Learn from the past and prepare for the future. The government is not going to come save you
Please get a better stove and a safe install.
Another Texan here preparing for the next disaster also. I have been welding on my wood heater that I'm building from two large air compressor tanks my old job gave me. It will be an outdoor unit piped inside. It's time to prepare to go "Grizzly Adams", style now that we know our Texas tax paid government officials will take luxury vacations on our tax dollors while the rest of us here have no power, heat or gas in freezing temperatures.
Your best investment is a generator and a heat pump type of air conditioner which is fairly common in Texas. Make sure your heat pump has a switch over box so you can plug your generator into it. What good is it to have an emergency wood stove? If you live in the burbs, where would you get emergency wood that is dry enough to burn in it?
Wonderful video and very informative. Personally, I would put fire-proof tile on the lower piece of plywood, just in case. Also, get some thin metal and use it, under the stove pipe, onto the plywood to protect the plywood from the intense heat of the stove pipe.
Like the stove, but that long stove pipe outside will be knocked down by any good wind.
Exactly!
Oh, cool rainwater heating collection kit!
You’ll need to preburn the stove or you’ll stink up your house. And you should mention safety factors to avoid burning down the house.
like those texans who almost died inside their houses?...some had to burn up their chairs and some other furniture...
Really like the stove, but those HVAC elbows leak like a sieve. I know because I install them everyday and we are required to tape them or use sealant because they leak so bad.
This wood be great for camping also!!
Just need a hot tent, check out luxe, they have some great hot tent and stove options
I was thinking for like a cabin, shelter, fort in the woods situation.
If the pipes are galvanized they should be burned off outside as the off gas from the initial burns is highly toxic.
This is an excellent vid.
Suggestion: A stove jack at the least for the pipe going through the OSB/plywood. Risk of fire greatly reduced.
You would have to secure the outside stove pipes to the house with wire.
I noticed that too. They seem like they'd be too heavy and would weigh down and cause structural problems somewhere.
I have serious doubts about the safety as shown but i do like that it has a cook surface and oven.
The stove is amazing absolutely looks great. Absolutely functional in all aspects. However, I must say that if any normal household in the city were to do this they would be fine because of the dangers and their house insurance would be void. Just a caution. The stove is absolutely 😊
In the city, they probably wouldn't have enough fuel to last more than a day or two. Furniture would be all burned up after one or two days. So, in the city, it's not really even a consideration unless you have a whole room filled with seasoned lumber.
Okay, I'm watching this on a beach 🌴 in Southern California but it's about the Whole Family, wherever they may be👏😎💪🙏☝
This reminded me of the Military stoves we used in tents. You never did a follow up video, you should have.
Where do you buy it?
@@glensiemer4641 I was in the Military. I don't know that you can buy those stoves but I would try a Military Surplus store.
@@glensiemer4641 Amazon sells them
Hi, I was wondering how you like this stove now? I didn’t see an updated review.
So this isn’t an all-in-one kit. it’s two kits combined into one it’s an oven kit and a stove kit purchased separately. Just found out. Maybe it will help someone else.
Splendidly efficient when the grid fails if you live in a cold area and have a home. The kitchen is the heart of the home, we should feel hungry and cool occasionally or we fail to appreciate how fortunate we are to have a pie shop on suite.
I would recommend using durarock or Transite sheet on the floor for fire resistance
Or make a sheet metal sandbox and place the feet of the stove inside of it .
I'm not a hater. I noticed the water spicket should be on the outside of your water tank and not on the inside. You decide, I'm just trying to save you grief from the haters is all
The next piece of pipe must go over the previous one (or the previous one must go inside the next one) starting with fireplace connection, here all next pieces going inside the previous ones what is potential carbon monoxide hazard. Those perforated ends of the pipe give you ideal channels to leak carbon monoxide into the house. It is an easy fix, unclear why it is done this way.
this is a commonly misunderstood topic. Within a minute or two of hot exhaust going up the chimney the entire vent will suck air into any cracks in the vent (opposite of pushing smokes exhaust out). This is called "drafting".
When you’ve assembled the stove according to the instructions in this video, be sure to call the fire department just before you light it so the have a head start to get to your house fire
Looks incredibly safe using all the particle board . Don’t give a second thought about that pesky roof overhang . Oh , your wife is gonna love the look too !
I’m pretty sure it’s meant for emergency situations not every day living
@@chrissegee Definitely an emergency when that particle board catches on fire .
@@markmed9091 how is is going catch on fire there is no direct contact with any heated parts and the exhaust pipe has a space to let cooling air in around it as well as a metal adapter
@@chrissegee "chimney" pipe when running the stove properly will, depending on how far it is from the stove, run at anywhere from 400-700 degrees F....well above the flash temp for wood
Thats definitely what i need ,
Well.....Don’t let your insurance guy see this in your house! Maybe assemble it...take it apart....reassemble it when SHTF!
It's a camping stove. Of course you're not going to have it installed all the time (seemed clear to me anyway). Keep it with your camping gear. Have it in an emergency. Don't know why anyone would need to hide it from one's "insurance guy"? The vast majority of insurance claims are for "flood damage", y' know, like when pipes burst? Staying in one's home and protecting one's property during an emergency is the best insurance.
@@UguysRnuts wood stoves are slowly going extinct due to insurance companies dropping customers that have them. I don’t agree with it, but it’s happening.
Bought this wood stove a few weeks back here in Alaska.
Will be installing it in my small cabin temporarily while I finish the interior of my cabin. It's super cold at the moment -10 bought I have to get work done.
Since it's a 5inch wood stove pipe hole can you just buy 5 inch pipe through out the length of the remaining pipe....since the pipe that comes with it varies in size as goes away from the stove..since it original use is for a tent and just goes straight upward.
Thanks for the upload.
Have you tried out your cylinder stove yet?
THE GUY MADE A GOOD VIDEO. , ( it forces a lot of people to ask the right questions )
If any one sees this and thinks, this is safe and great.. please I beg you, talk to a professional before install and your home owners insurance..! I would not use this more than 96 hours, and never ever leave it unattended..
Again, I think it is awesome job on video , the quality and editing. I just wouldn't use this in a long term or keep up ready to go.
THIS IS A TEMP IDEA FOR A " fold up up and place in garage and have it on stand by"..so u can install , yes... this should be a temp thing - up and down.
Living in a townhome & this would be a choice for a TEMPORARY way to heat & cook. Also consider cement sheetrock for under the stove & the sides to protect walls etc.
How much and how can I order one
For an emergency stove, it's an ok idea. For a main source of heat, a very poor idea. Without internal baffling, the majority of the heat escapes through the stovepipe. The only benefit is that the pipe is single wall. That gives a bit of extra heat. Best thing to do it to get an actual wood burning stove that has a cooking shelf. The new ones are extremely efficient. Efficiency equals saving money because wood will last longer, and you'll need less of it.
a rocket stove with mass heater would work as well.
This is exactly what I was looking or in case of a shtf situtation ,or some lesser emergency situation that affected the average home owner from obtaining natural gas, oil, or propane on a regular basis to heat their homes. As for me, that would be propane. I have tons of wood around me so this stove would work for me. However, I would recommend taking the necessary steps to make it more fire proof.
The problem i see with this might be that the stove pipe is not high enough on the house. A chimney is supposed to be higher than the peak of your roof or you might get a downdraft if there is any wind.
Not necessarily. Triangulate the vertical 10 feet from the horizontal edge of roof and your fine.
@@jonrosenow5812 Actually you are supposed to measure 10ft from your chimney to a level point on your roof then add two feet or more to the chimney height. Any peak that is within 10 feet of the chimney can compete with the chimney. This can cause draft problems. This is why the rule calls for the chimney to extend 2 feet above any structure within 10 feet of the chimney. This chimney is piped so crazy it just might work or not... LOL.
I think we will get one of these just in case. I wouldn’t use it on a day to day basis, but it would be great to have if you don’t have power esp th le way things are going.
Agree with the titles of the video I’m here because of what happened in Texas. I hope this video can reach the people who need it.
I like it seems easy enough,wonder how much it is
I don't why I'm getting this video 4 years after the fact LOL
Seven months after your comment: I do. 😬😬😬😬
It's good because the fuel lines are going to be choked this winter, artificially FYI, so having at least another heat source will help immensely
@@maillemacanaugh1841 yup
The powers that be are struggling to keep up with the agenda to get rid of the useless eaters.
I've got two generators ! 😉
A 5500 and a 8000 ! 💡
A generator is what I would recommend ! ☝️🤠👍