I'm on a big job, and just now stopped for a cup of tea and a sandwich and even though I am also a painter and decorator and people think I'm nuts to watch painting videos after I've been painting all morning, but I got to tell you my friend I learned so much from you guys and your channel is made a huge difference in my business thanks again for sharing the tips on the windows, do the exact same process except I wipe them down with methyl hydrate (which I'm almost positive I learned from one or you two Gentlemen). I know painting plastic is sort of lousy, but done right, the paint sticks like crazy and they always look much better. Thanks again for all your help and another great resource/reference for anyone who needs a 100% expert advisor and trusted resource. You two are the Best.
Hi guys , great video as always 👍 , i painted 2 x double garage UPVC doors 4 years ago , using a similar system but i 240 grade sandpapered them, washed/cleaned with meths to degrease , applied 1 coat zinsser BIN123 & 2 coats dulux oil based opaque RAL 7016 leaving 2 days between each coat & to this day still looks as good as new 👌🙏
There is joy to be had when you get into “ the zone” of ‘cutting in’ with a good flowing paint…time seems to stop for that moment…(which could be hours)
Another cracking bit of prep. You cant beat a bit of Zinsser, The whole range is amazing. I have been using the new BIN aqua on knotts and no bleed through 😊 Again amazing products.
Nice work, I've fitted hundreds of these over the last 40 years! I've got a couple to paint, but I'll pop the glass out, wouldn't do any harm to wipe down with acetone
I actually painted a plastic window with oil based satin coat. Sets harder than gloss, it's still good 3 years later..oil based settles nicely, no brush marks, though I imagine yours will be even better.. good work
Again it's all preparation wash and sand may be wet and dry. You need to remove the shiny surface on tiles. And a good primer Zinsser bin or 123 thanks 👍
Great job. The primer looks a bit full of brush strokes (not your fault) so do you have to lightly rub down the primer to smooth these out before applying the final top coat ? Many thanks 👍🏼
To be fair most water based finishes leave more brush marks than oil. But any white primer on a dark surface will show all the brush marks. As you build up the coats to 4 it all sits back and looks okay. You do give a light sand in between coats this also helps. Thanks
@@PaintingandDecorating many thanks for your reply. Hope you didn’t think I was being critical of your great work. Your channel is excellent and has helped me many times👍🏼. Is it two coats of primer and two coats of top coat ? Thanks All the best.
No not at all but it needs explaining. One primer and then one undercoat followed by two satin coats. I don't think they will look solid enough with 3 coats. Thanks
Yes colder than normal but it's only a blip. Summer is somewhere 🤔 as long as you do the preparation well it should bond so it won't come off or chip. Thanks 👍
Hi mate I would very grateful if you could give me some advice. I am a handyman in Wales and someone has asked me to paint and internal side of a window from dark brown to white. He said he has the paint. How you price a small job like that? Do you usually have to come back to do more coats another day or you do all in one day? Thanks great channel
Was thinking doing mine but was a bit put off about it being a disaster. Hope i can see the end result & it may give me the push. Do you have any tips if the pvc is damaged? Can normal filler be used?
Great video. Any thoughts on why my white uvpc sill has developed a motley light brown effect? Have used a restorer which faded it but did not last long.
Thank you, there can be a few reasons for some plastic to fail. The sun is the worst and water sitting on the sill doesn't help. Trees and algae and also over cleaning can wear the plastic sill. Sometimes water running down walls can pick up contamination and stain sills.
@@PaintingandDecorating Many thanks, the sill is South facing so gets sun most of the day, when it shines! Maybe I have overcleand with a cream like restorer, any suggestions as an alternative?
Well it won't come off as it's well bonded to the plastic. But how white and marks and stains I don't really know. It's exterior water based and new ground to me. Oil is been faded out. Oil between 5 and 10 years. Water based could last a lot longer with it's new technology. Thanks
Great job well done 👍 I’m a decorator 35 years you did it spot on but please do yourself a favour and buy some proform contractor brushes they are a game changer And I’ve used them all trust me. Including acorn eagle 27 Harris super Hamilton perfection plus
I painted ALL my brown UPVC windows, doors, conservatory and white garage door with Zinsser Allcoat in Anthrocite Grey. Rubbed down with 120 sandpaper, wipe off with damp cloth. NO PRIMER needed. It's BRILLIANT. I gave them TWO coats. Used One and a Half 2:5 Ltr tins at £52 per tin. 3 months later NO scratches etc. REALLY PLEASED. A company wanted £1,500 for ONE days work to spray them.
@@markjones8805 nice one good to hear. They are certainly rushing if it's done in a day. I've heard a few people complaining because it's coming off after being sprayed. Thanks
Not this stuff it has a 10 year guarantee. Made with resins and is very expensive. But it's worth the money It's good to apply and fast drying. 3 coats in a day.
Yes I was hoping for windows not getting done on a job eventually. It is the most time consuming part of the job. But it looks like it's here to stay. 👍 Thanks 👍
I think this could attract a lot of criticism from some corners. The Selemix 2k Brigade. The Only Spray Faction. The Adhesion Primer Unit (who would say that 123 isn’t as good as etc etc) but I think decorating is about respecting that there’s many ways to achieve a good outcome and maintaining a budget/profit 👍 I’m proud to be a decorator and sometimes I earn £500 a day and sometimes I do it for £100.
Painters have always painted windows plastic are just a lot easier than wood. You can spray for ridiculous amounts of money or just paint them. Nothing lasts even spray. At least painting they can be touched up or recoated with no massive cost. Thanks 👍. Love being a painter and decorator.
you off your trolly , those are foiled window frames over a pvc graine filler , the only stuff with any longevity is a 2k solvent , sprayed with a turbine , even a 1k like pvc17 is far better than that garbage do a scratch test with your finger nail , and oh yeh im a commercial sprayer of 30 years
Wood is just as bad that's why they had lead paints for flexibility. Wood is probably worse than plastic. Modern paints are better designed using resin and more flexible. Thanks
I'm on a big job, and just now stopped for a cup of tea and a sandwich and even though I am also a painter and decorator and people think I'm nuts to watch painting videos after I've been painting all morning, but I got to tell you my friend I learned so much from you guys and your channel is made a huge difference in my business thanks again for sharing the tips on the windows, do the exact same process except I wipe them down with methyl hydrate (which I'm almost positive I learned from one or you two Gentlemen). I know painting plastic is sort of lousy, but done right, the paint sticks like crazy and they always look much better. Thanks again for all your help and another great resource/reference for anyone who needs a 100% expert advisor and trusted resource. You two are the Best.
Thank you nice to know our knowledge is helping. 👍
Couldn't have put it better Paul. 😊
Hi guys , great video as always 👍 , i painted 2 x double garage UPVC doors 4 years ago , using a similar system but i 240 grade sandpapered them, washed/cleaned with meths to degrease , applied 1 coat zinsser BIN123 & 2 coats dulux oil based opaque RAL 7016 leaving 2 days between each coat & to this day still looks as good as new 👌🙏
Thank you.. it does seem to be a good product.
What a difference! Great job!
Thank you.
brilliant never new pvc could be painted , brilliant info loved this one thumbs up
Thank you 🙂
It can't.
There is joy to be had when you get into “ the zone” of ‘cutting in’ with a good flowing paint…time seems to stop for that moment…(which could be hours)
Another cracking bit of prep.
You cant beat a bit of Zinsser, The whole range is amazing. I have been using the new BIN aqua on knotts and no bleed through 😊 Again amazing products.
Thank you.
So calm and inparational painting your amazing ly skilled a pleasure to watch i learn from you two brothers every video you post thank so mutch
Thank you 🙏
Great work yet again,so steady with that brush 👏👏👏
Thank you. 👍
Planning to do the same with a mid dark grey finish to match our new conservatory. Looking forward to seeing you part2 / finished video. 👍
Thanks I will see what I can do with part two. 👍
Grand job as always
Thank you.
Lots of patience required and skill.
Thank you
Nice work, I've fitted hundreds of these over the last 40 years! I've got a couple to paint, but I'll pop the glass out, wouldn't do any harm to wipe down with acetone
@@waterboy8999 will you take the seal out on the frame?
@@PaintingandDecorating yes, I'll probably replace it.
Back in the 80s plastic windows were sold to us so we don’t have to paint wooden frames.
Now here we are painting plastic ones. 😁
Yes never thought I'd have to paint windows again. One bounce is no rot no putty. 👍
Nice job 👍🏻
Thanks 👍
Nice job mate very skillful I painted my kitchen tiles with slate rustoleum turned out great rather than rip them out . All about preparation though 👍
I actually painted a plastic window with oil based satin coat. Sets harder than gloss, it's still good 3 years later..oil based settles nicely, no brush marks, though I imagine yours will be even better.. good work
Yes oil is lovely to work with but times are changing l. Water based if it lasts well is a game changer. Thanks
@@PaintingandDecorating you're a tradesman people could trust, very honest ☺️
Why are brits never masking up when they are painting?
@@allanpedersen2379 a little square edge can occur next to the tape
They like to see paint all over the brickwork like in this job. I would not have been happy with this at all.
yeap.., tasty work x
Thank you.
This is so helpful. Any tips on painting tiles?? Especially old school kitchen tops that have tiles
Again it's all preparation wash and sand may be wet and dry. You need to remove the shiny surface on tiles. And a good primer Zinsser bin or 123 thanks 👍
Great job. The primer looks a bit full of brush strokes (not your fault) so do you have to lightly rub down the primer to smooth these out before applying the final top coat ? Many thanks 👍🏼
To be fair most water based finishes leave more brush marks than oil. But any white primer on a dark surface will show all the brush marks. As you build up the coats to 4 it all sits back and looks okay. You do give a light sand in between coats this also helps. Thanks
Always a good idea to lightly rub down primer with a 240 then two top coats rub first with 400 before final coat
@@PaintingandDecorating many thanks for your reply. Hope you didn’t think I was being critical of your great work. Your channel is excellent and has helped me many times👍🏼. Is it two coats of primer and two coats of top coat ? Thanks All the best.
No not at all but it needs explaining. One primer and then one undercoat followed by two satin coats. I don't think they will look solid enough with 3 coats. Thanks
@@PaintingandDecorating brilliant - many thanks it’s much appreciated.
The weather has been abysmal this year.Looking good on the Upvc front.What paint will you use and will it chip if bumped (Ms clumsy here)?Thank you.
Yes colder than normal but it's only a blip. Summer is somewhere 🤔 as long as you do the preparation well it should bond so it won't come off or chip. Thanks 👍
You’d have to have such a steady hand like yours , if I tried it , more paint would be over the glass and brickwork lol
He's got loads on the brickwork and painted the silicone. Messy job. I'm not a decorator by tade but could do a tidier job than this.
Just have a rag handy and wipe it off.
got one of them over the door canopy plastic things what do i need pal in order to change colour
A good exterior all in one primer and top coat. Bedec, or Zinsser. Thanks
Hi mate I would very grateful if you could give me some advice. I am a handyman in Wales and someone has asked me to paint and internal side of a window from dark brown to white. He said he has the paint. How you price a small job like that? Do you usually have to come back to do more coats another day or you do all in one day? Thanks great channel
How long is this likely to last do you think? Just wondering?
Was thinking doing mine but was a bit put off about it being a disaster. Hope i can see the end result & it may give me the push. Do you have any tips if the pvc is damaged? Can normal filler be used?
I would say two pack filler is probably best. Thanks 👍
What brush is that cheers and a lovely job, did you ever film the painting of them?
It's a Hamilton perfection half inch. Thanks
Great video. Any thoughts on why my white uvpc sill has developed a motley light brown effect? Have used a restorer which faded it but did not last long.
Thank you, there can be a few reasons for some plastic to fail. The sun is the worst and water sitting on the sill doesn't help. Trees and algae and also over cleaning can wear the plastic sill. Sometimes water running down walls can pick up contamination and stain sills.
@@PaintingandDecorating Many thanks, the sill is South facing so gets sun most of the day, when it shines! Maybe I have overcleand with a cream like restorer, any suggestions as an alternative?
👍👍👍. Thank you
Thanks 👍
Great stuff,may I ask how far you gentlemen travel for work?
Thank you. We only do videos on here and don't advertise for work. Sorry
@@PaintingandDecorating no problem although I wasn’t enquiring about that,it was just a question about how far you travel….👍
Great job...r u doing a part2 video
No I don't think so, too much to do. Need to crack on.
How long do you think it will last.I may have a go.
Well it won't come off as it's well bonded to the plastic. But how white and marks and stains I don't really know. It's exterior water based and new ground to me. Oil is been faded out. Oil between 5 and 10 years. Water based could last a lot longer with it's new technology. Thanks
Thank you 👏👏👏
What paint are you using as I’m thinking of painting mine
Zinsser Bulls Eye 123 primer and then Leyland exterior undercoat and Leyland satin finish. 4 coats two satin. Thanks
Hello what satinwood did you use please?
Leyland exterior Saint wood. Thanks
Great job well done 👍
I’m a decorator 35 years you did it spot on but please do yourself a favour and buy some proform contractor brushes they are a game changer
And I’ve used them all trust me. Including acorn eagle 27 Harris super Hamilton perfection plus
Thank you I will definitely check the brushes out. 👍
Better than those blokes that spray plastic windows as you actually open the sash to paint .
I painted ALL my brown UPVC windows, doors, conservatory and white garage door with Zinsser Allcoat in Anthrocite Grey. Rubbed down with 120 sandpaper, wipe off with damp cloth. NO PRIMER needed. It's BRILLIANT. I gave them TWO coats. Used One and a Half 2:5 Ltr tins at £52 per tin. 3 months later NO scratches etc. REALLY PLEASED. A company wanted £1,500 for ONE days work to spray them.
@@markjones8805 nice one good to hear. They are certainly rushing if it's done in a day. I've heard a few people complaining because it's coming off after being sprayed.
Thanks
No masking tape steady hand 👍
Thanks 👍
Anything that is water based ' usually flakes off after a year...
Not this stuff it has a 10 year guarantee.
Made with resins and is very expensive. But it's worth the money It's good to apply and fast drying. 3 coats in a day.
Get upvc windows they said banish painting forever 😅 great video as always though 😊
Yes I was hoping for windows not getting done on a job eventually. It is the most time consuming part of the job. But it looks like it's here to stay. 👍 Thanks 👍
This is going to very controversial just like a small event next Thursday when some will love it and some will hate it
Ya fighter
Actually, it was like watching paint dry...
I think this could attract a lot of criticism from some corners. The Selemix 2k Brigade. The Only Spray Faction. The Adhesion Primer Unit (who would say that 123 isn’t as good as etc etc) but I think decorating is about respecting that there’s many ways to achieve a good outcome and maintaining a budget/profit 👍
I’m proud to be a decorator and sometimes I earn £500 a day and sometimes I do it for £100.
Painters have always painted windows plastic are just a lot easier than wood. You can spray for ridiculous amounts of money or just paint them. Nothing lasts even spray. At least painting they can be touched up or recoated with no massive cost. Thanks 👍. Love being a painter and decorator.
@@PaintingandDecorating totally agree
Oh, the irony, pvc so they didn't need painting, how fickle fashion is...
you off your trolly , those are foiled window frames over a pvc graine filler , the only stuff with any longevity is a 2k solvent , sprayed with a turbine , even a 1k like pvc17 is far better than that garbage do a scratch test with your finger nail , and oh yeh im a commercial sprayer of 30 years
Will do a scratch test for you. Will put it on as a short. Great idea. 👍
Bloody wind chimes
Just about the most tedious job i could imagine, worst of all it has to be done all over again. Twice!
Looks a lot better though. 🙂
Four coats and it is testing. But looks great 👍
Why on earth would you paint uPVC
Because they need painting they are probably 25 years old. And my customer has just bought the house and wants the windows white. 👍
Omg..just buy new windows...looks a bit if a car crash to me
Game Over indeed🤮
You can't paint plastic windows when they get hot they expaind when it's cold they contract paint can't move like that so this is why it flakes off.
Wood is just as bad that's why they had lead paints for flexibility. Wood is probably worse than plastic. Modern paints are better designed using resin and more flexible. Thanks
Are you coming back to waterbased? I know you flirted with it in the past but fell out of love with it. I’m an oil man myself
Yes it does save time and is the way I think it's all going eventually. But oil is nice to apply. 👍
@@PaintingandDecorating have you ever tried rubbing down something previously painted with waterbased? It’s like trying to rub down caulk