Gone Girl: Why We Prefer Lies...
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- Опубликовано: 13 июн 2024
- Gone Girl is a superb David Fincher movie which examines our relationship to information and asks the question - Do we as a society prefer pleasant lies, or uncomfortable truths?
00:00 Intro
00:51 Gone Girl
01:03 Finchers Hypothesis
02:50 The Set - Up
04:50 New Information
06:15 Key Scene
08:10 Perceptions Shape Reality
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“We all wear masks, and the time comes when we cannot remove them without removing some of our own skin.” André Berthiaume
That's s great quote
I think this is one of the better analyzations I've seen of gone girl, it's odd that all credit seems to go to the director and none to Gillian Flynn. She wrote the book that this is based on and the screenplay for the movie as well. David Fincher definitely deserves good credit for the movie but I would still consider it Flynn's more than anyone else's.
I was about to say the same. Talking about a woman's work as if it were a man's creation is a bad look for a channel. Unfortunate. Fincher did her story amazing justice and I am in awe of his brilliance, but I am in awe of *hers* as well. Gone Girl is Flynn's voice--her literary creation brought perfectly to life.
I wasn't really giving credit to anyone just highlighting what drew Fincher to the project. If it seemed that way it's just because I was talking about the movie, if I were discussing the book id have focused more on flynn
I haven't seen this movie, but I feel like you literally just described my parents' marriage.
Considering 66% of marriages end in divorce I imagine it describes a lot of them
@@PeakedInterest Except my parents aren't divorced. They're still living the lies.
That's my grandparents too. Seems more common in the older generation
@@PeakedInterest My grandparents, as far as I could tell, had the best relationship that worked for them. Grandpa more or less let Grandma do as she pleased and she rarely, if ever, asked him for help.
Her favorite hobbies were gardening and photography, I remember almost every Christmas that Grandpa would get her something new that she needed - be it gardening gloves or a pad for her knees when she was weeding. Or a new lens for her camera.
He was a model train enthusiast and enjoyed bird watching. So she would buy him books or small things related to those subjects.
Their relationship seemed timeless. They were together for years and truly just seemed to enjoy one another's company.
I think the best relationships are the ones which do two things - communicate openly, honestly and calmly and the second thing is to respect each others space.
Too many couples in my experience don't give each other enough space and it causes friction.
this movie clarifies it to me that life isn't in black and white but always in shades of gray all of us are sometimes greedy and cruel but it's who we believe we are and how we treat people and how we act to strangers that is the real you.
Agreed. Life is shades of grey. Coming from a psychotherapists background I always try not to judge people, but their actions. I find it's usually a far more accurate and fair way to judge things
If you like stories about shades of grey characters, I’d recommend watching the first four seasons of Game of Thrones, if you haven’t already. I think it’s one of the best TV shows that best represents this reality.
Hey man, just like many, i came from the most radioactive man video - and i just wanted to say, you definitely deserve subscriber count in the milions. Your channer covers interesting topics, and the production value of your videos is just outstanding, it can clearly be seen that you put a lot of effort and passion into them. Don't get discouraged, and continue making amazing content, i trust that eventually youtube will make up for not giving you milions of subs yet, and you'll get there!
Thank you. I just try to cover things that I'm personally interested in. Appreciate the kind words
I would of loving to see the detective dig more into Amy and her lies but films like this keep you thinking about what might have been;which makes the film last long after its over. Great insight man
hands down my favorite gone girl analysis!! great work
Thanks very much.
I think you can only lie for so long, especially if the lie is your entire personality. Eventually, they will regress to their mean.
Dude what the fuck you’re videos are so good!! U need more viewers.
Thanks, hopefully the increased attention lately is a sign of a positive future
It's creepy and scary how well he can comprehend this.... Is is he even human at this point
@@PeakedInterest Positive is good. Expecting nothing is also good. You have a bright future.
bro, my stepdad failed my mother in alot of the same manner as is described here, this is a disturbingly honest film.
Solid video. I am sorry I missed this one. Using stereotype to critique the audience is such a meta idea. I love it. I would of never watched this movie. But I think I will see if I can show it to people and do the same to them. I wonder what perception I'll get.
It's an interesting reaction, I did it that way
Personally, I felt like the final quote was how I felt about both leads. Neither of them are good people, and they're definitely not good for each other's well being. That said... being that there will inevitably be people who take advantage of good things, girls who accuse a consensual encounter they regret as rape, and so on, her retribution was extremely ill proportioned.
I love this movie and I've never really been able to put my finger on exactly what it is that makes me reread the books and rewatch the movie. Now I know!
This is so true... And its one main reason why most of the people are still blind for the truth because its uncomfortable and this is more or less unintentionally dragging themselves and others down so much. And in relationsships lies are like stimulant drugs it keeps it going but its damned to turn it all to the worse in end.
This. 💔
Well this was a BRILLIANT review.
Thank you, I try my best
I was horrified by the book and the movie. and now, ugh don't know what to even feel about it anymore. thanks, i guess. 😅
Sounds like your feelings can be summed by saying - thanks, I hate it. Lol
Your videos are by far some of the best I've seen on RUclips and I believe your channel is going to grow substantially. I will like and share and hopefully many others will as well. Great work!
Thank you, I put a lot of effort in so it's nice to get such positive feedback
When will this channel get more attention.... This analysis hits the nail on its head.
This was great, I love this movie and have watched it countless times and you really got it down perfectly.
Countless times eh....
Did not see the movie but oh man this is deep
Bro you have to watch it.
@@t.o.3323 Maybe i will watch tonight :D
Brotha your videos are fantastic, hope you have many more down the pipeline, don't stop anytime soon
Great work brother!! Im a new subscriber. The Presentation you put together about the 2 young dutch ladies was as good as it gets. I respect the way that you look at both sides of the equation and not being biased in any way. You do not speculate as many of the other crime docs I watched about them. You took what you know to be evidence , presented it in a way that was very logical and easy to understand and gave your personal opinion on what you beleived happened. Just for the record I saw eye to eye with you on what you believed happened. Ive been making my way thru your videos and enjoyed them all. I too have a love for film and enjoy coming to conclusions on the narrative and visuals. Anyways keep up the good work as you definitely have the Knack.** On a side note there are 2 cases I've followed for years and have yet to figure out what probably happened. The first case is of a man named Brandon Lawson who mysteriously vanished although there is enough evidence to get solved. The other case is about a young man name Christian Andreacchio. If you had time to do some digging on either of the cases , I would love to hear your opinion. I don't really wanna give up too much info, as doing research with an open mind is always best imo. Thx cheers
super well made video thank you so much for making content that is engaging
What a great video. Just found your channel and this is my second video. You earned my sub! Please keep making this good content!
Excellent video!
Very good video!
Just found this channel and I love it so interesting and cool keep posting vids
Ill keep posting if you keep watching
Deal
What was Gone Girl really about? Two bad people.
wow this channel is so underrated you disserve more traction
great video :)
You got a sub sir. I like insightful, even callous if need be analyses of cultures despite the possibility of wrongth think. Helps everyone just to be honest, especially to yourself.
your videos absolutely amazing, I hope that you will get more subscribers.
Thank you
I like how it's basically the Laci Peterson case meets the Jennifer Wilbanks case!
Damn, wow, well analysed.
Thank you
I was unable to live either the acceptable lie nor the uncomfortable truth, so I broke up with my ex girlfriend to focus on myself and my goals.
This is the best dissection of this film I've ever seen! I've always felt people were missing something when they go the purely feminist route and try to make it seem like everything Amy did was justified cause of patriarchy or something. This is the first time I felt like I really got the movie.
Thank you. I try to look at things a little differently than normal
your videos are amazing
Thank you so much 😀
Damn what an amazing analysis!
Thanks
Can you do one on inception directed by Christopher nolan? Like a full break down analysis I will donate for your time.
I've pretty much already done that here
ruclips.net/video/t8Ik7V7xneE/видео.html
i love ur content
Thank you
I love your shit man, never stop, I know you'll be big one day
Thanks. I'll keep making if you keep watching
Nice video
I love the Ellen Abbott character as well. The way she is able to take the information given and spin her own narrative on it - much like how journalism works, which likely comes from Gillian Flynn's background as a journalist. Ellen sees the picture of Nick "flirting" with the woman wanting to give him the casserole - we saw the interaction and how uncomfortable he was, but Ellen just sees the photo and assumes he is being flirtatious. This further backs up Ellen's theory when Emily Ratajkowski comes forward with the affair.
However, when Rosamund Pike comes home and admits that Desi was the one that did all of this, you briefly hear Ellen explaining, "and when Desi couldn't have her, he TOOK her. It disgusts me how..." even though we know this is a complete farce, yet with Ellen's power of her audience, it's likely that, if this was a real true crime case, that this would be the story we would tell on all the true crime podcasts.
My fiancé hated this movie when we first watched this because she thought Amy was stupid for deciding to come home to Nick. I tried to explain that this movie is more about how people try to control each other to fit the narratives in their own heads and their perceived characteristics of each other, as well as how "the media" can easily manipulate a story line to fit the story they want to tell. And you're right, it doesn't make it right or wrong. Gillian Flynn did a phenomenal job.
I just watched this movie yesterday on Netflix.
Rosamund Pike is wickedly brilliant in this film , furthermore more she offed Doogie Howser & stitched up Affleck !
I think the characters and their world are such exaggerations that you can't really critique it on the basis of real life, but rather debate it like you would a morality fable. I think the question and debate was the whole point.
I still wish the ending had been more believable (even if not "realistic"). The cop and other friends just telling him to give up and live a lie DESPITE them having proof of her deception, MURDER AND FRAUD was just way too nonsensical for me. But maybe i'm just unappreciative of some "deeper point" lol
I dunno, Affleck makes the point of saying there is no physical evidence that she did anything that's why she made him strip down and get in the shower before she would tell him she did it - then she knew he wasn't wearing a wire.
I think you're right in many ways really the movie is just a starting point to debate how much we really value truth. Perhaps I didn't emphasise that enough in the video.
Yup, same here. To add to that didn't really like the "he's an asshole and she is a murderous psychopath, so that's pretty much the same" vibe. As a morality fable that just fails flat since those things don't even come close. Now if his affair was him seducing and than murdering women and dumping their bodies in the woods that would be more like it. imho it would make even better (more satisfying) movie and the end would work better.
But that's just me, a now old man who "lived in interesting times" since being 5yo and likes to watch movies for fun and not the _message_ or _deep underlying meaning_
cool video btw
Thanks very much
Hey man it seems that all your social media accounts don’t exist anymore? Where can one message you/ reach you in general?
Woops descriptions must need updating. You can message me either on Twitter @Peaked1nterest or Instagram - peaked1nterest.
Sorry about that
Awesome video , I read the book before watching the movie . The author makes me mad lol like no other writer can .
Why is that? I haven't read the book so can't comment on that but Flynn did also write the screenplay too
@@PeakedInterest don't get me wrong she is a great writer , I just find her frustrating I had never wanted to throw a book away while reading it until I read her books , maybe I wanted the story to go a certain way and when it didn't I blamed her twisted mind 😳😳😅😅
I'd say thats a good writer, you're obviously very emotionally invested in the story and that's a writer's job
@@PeakedInterest very true !! I also read her book called Dark Places and I wanted to scream 😳😂. You should read some of her books lol. Thanks for replying.
I like chatting to commenters, I've learned quite a lot of things by replying to people it's interesting.
I'll pick up one of her books since I need something to read now I've finished jaws again
Puppets, puppet master? Life is like that.
1:50 this woman was a sociopath. Everything else you know is a consequence or a footnote of that fact
nice stuff but u should mind the sound volume of your voice and the movies u use in comparison.
what most people don't know is this movie is based on a book written by Gillian Flynn.
00:23 what movie is that?
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someone tell me if all marriages are like this before i throw my self into a pit
Maybe I'd make a good movie reviewer ,I never pick sides I'm always looking for anything that's odd or not logical I love truth I love facts that's what interests me I love thrillers especially psychological thrillers ..
Fuck gone girl. I left the theatre feeling so angry, but in a good way.
I’m a feminist. But I love this movie. I understand both sides. But what feminists don’t understand. Is. She comes out the winner. In the end. In a sick twisted way
Like your content but the ads are super annoying. 4 video ads and 3 youtube forced ads. Would like to continue but hate having to wait and skip ever 2-3 minutes. Nice video but not all of us are on a pc to auto skip some ads :(
I watch on mobile too and some of my favourite RUclipsrs have a lot of ads. You're not really supposed to get all of them, they're only supposed to pop up about 10% of the time.
I try to think of it this way, when the ads pop up the people I enjoy watching get rewarded for their hard work. Without those ads those people wouldn't be making the RUclips content I enjoy.
I tested a video earlier with my brother to see what ads come up and on his mobile he watched 5 of my videos and didn't get any ads at all.
My apologies if you were unlucky and got a lot.
Even though I'm a woman then this movie really scared me..I mean the lengths she
Went to is
Terrifying .
Yes he cheated ..but she is the definition of a person who takes things too far . As a woman that's experienced SEVERE verbal and physical abuse.
ALOT of both ..this woman just ...she took it way too far . Even going so far as to murder the 1 guy ..and he didn't deserve that . I think the movie is the story of a female psychopath
It is a big problem that they are both wrong.. it’s not about feminism if we suggest a person (even if it’s a woman) to not hurt other person.. it applies to men as well..in a relationship marriage or love, cheating and violence are just unacceptable.. if husband does cheating then wife leads to violence.. both intolerable.. but the sad truth is only solution is divorce/break up.. one doesn’t get to punish the other person for the physical or emotional loss they have suffered even if it’s huge enough to put their existence in question.. what amy did would definitely be terribly hard to pull off in real life but it would be where a person’s rage can lead them to if they are pushed to the extremes of insanity whether it’s a man or woman.
Balanced take. I approve
you changed the title.
I did. I'm testing different titles and thumbnails to see which people click on more. Well spotted
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7:54 Sounds like the Russia-Ukraine war. All people want is a clear hero and a clear villain. The truth doesn't matter.
Of course people prefer to believe in lies. How else do you explain religion?
Your name is misspelled its piqued interest
Piqued Interest would mean when the interest begins, i chose peaked on purpose because it represents when the interest is at its maximum. Both ways are grammatically correct.
@@PeakedInterest true but "to pique" means to arouse or stimulate. "Peak" is a high point, like the top of a mountain, and "peek" means to take a quick look.
@@PeakedInterest however meaning vary so understandable
Nick is no better than Amy, he is a man child who cracked under the slightest pressure and went to cope by playing videogames and cheating, he betrayed the trust and the marriage vow and couldn't act like a man for Amy.. he is a pathetic narcissist who gaslight amy and destroyed her mentally.. he did it without even feeling guilty and simply thought he could get away with it.. unlucky for him he messed up with the wrong person, even tho I dont agree with what she did, he deserved to be punished..
You have a lot of good answers, but I'm going to give you what your missing. You're looking at the old Panamanian case with a logical brain and not the brain of a psychopath... The key to this who done it... Is the Blonde! (Kris)... Think about this location... Panama! Not too many native Blue eyed blonde women in that region!... The killer was infactuated with Kris...Lisanne was collateral damage to him... That's why you have the photo of Kris's platinum blonde hair!... That was a keepsake of the murderer wanting a trophy. 😐
I never really feel into these but I totally get the gender obsessed public would. Gender is the new identity for some people and these roles are insane.
I prefer these videos of yours, they are neutral and show depth. But the opinion based and oversimplified discussions on the gender wage gap are terrible and biased.
Almost like "Amber Heard"! lol
Great video !