Me too.GREAT documentary on Arvydas,I wish someone would ask Shaq his opinion on this GREAT player,but,I'm sure Shaq would have GOOD things to say about Arvydas.
As a European 🇪🇺: A young Sabonis was like Jokic with not quite as good court vision but taller WAY MORE ATHLETIC and obviously a better defender (Jokic isn't bad, but Arvydas in his prime was avarging like 5 blocks per game so I believe he would have made an all defence team) he was also better in the post. He could have been a a top 5 center ever 🥲 USSR did him dirty (btw Nikos Galis was arguably outplaying him in the EuroBasket, he deserves a video too. He is pretty underrated (obviously because didn't play in the NBA), same with Oscar Schmitt)
@@Manuel-04 Just Petrovic (because he at least played in the NBA) is known by Americans (even just as a big what if and a good shooter). He is underrated, but at least most people knew he existed
Sabonis had a complete package. He could run, dunk and crash boards like a young Shaq, his court vision and passing skill was amazing and you could compare him to prime Bill Walton or Larry Bird. He could make hook shots in the post and 3 pointers from outside. He also was great defender. One of the greatest centers in all of basketball.
as a lithuanian, i must say this was a great video. You managed to mention most of the important facts about his career and showed just how amazing he was
Portland is so damn unlucky. Imagine if they got prime sabonis when they were supposed to. Sabonis would have been on those Drexler led teams that already went to the finals. The only hole they had was at center. That's potentially a 90's Blazers dynasty. That would change mj's legacy drastically. What was lost in that description of 2000 wcf game 7 was the obvious ref job for the lakers. Sabonis could not do any thing to shaq the whole series or it would be a foul. Sabonis never got in foul trouble yet magically, the one person that could guard shaq, was fouling out. HMMMM
I have to agree. Imagine Portland and Chicago duking it out in multiple Finals throughout the 90's. Clyde, MJ, and even Sabonis would be in the GOAT discussions.
Imagine Duckworth&Kersey alongside Aryvdas Drexler Porter How would that not be the best starting 5? Cliff Robinson off the bench more than likely adding 14-18 a game As a Bulls fan of 40+ yes Blazers with Sabonis take early 90s titles Same for Rockets in 94&95 had MJ been playing, Rockets had their number
Probably the best put video on Sabonis career on youtube yet. I've seen them all. Short, to the point, no time wasted with all the key moments highlighted. Only one short error. Gomeslky definately didn't want for him to play in finals for zalgiris, cause he was coaching the oposite team the Moscow CSKA.
A pre injury sabonis with dominique wilkins on that atl team would have changed nba history as we know it even mj bulls would not have 6 chips i can guarantee that...o what could have been ..this is one of the greatest what ifs in league
He called his friend in Portland saying he man you gotta take this Jordan kid Their response? thats nice but we need a center Bobby Knight well draft Jordan an play him at center
He was so good, that very few realize this. Stop telling, he would be top 5 center of all time, cause if he would come to NBA before and avoided injuries , he'd become GOAT or at least top 5 player of all time. Arvydas had tremendous passion and love for the game so officials/coaches exploited him for their needs, to the point his legs were completely destroyed. After such Achilles injuries he has suffered, athletes were done with their careers at that time. Yet Arvydas was still best player in Europe because of his skills, despite loosing all of his exceptional athleticism, almost not running or jumping anymore. And Gomelsky could not stop him from playing in the NBA, just nobody from ussr could play professionaly abroad until 1989, when ussr started to collapse. Marciulionis went to NBA, Sabas to Spain. We have seen what he's capable of , despite all the injuries, when he came to NBA 31 years old. I think if he would come to Portland in 1989 , when he was 25, no one would have doubt he is top 5 center of all time, despite being the shell of himself in around 1985 before injuries...
Starting 5 made me really appreciate the Sobonis's. I slept on Domantas and he became my favorite to watch after LBJ. He's an amazing player. His dad was a boss as well! Basketball pedigree out the wazoo.
Arvydas made the NBA at 31 but seemed 50 at best. This is not disrespect, it's a statement of how great he was when younger. If he come in the NBA when young, he sure would be top 5 centers of all time (and still he can be in the top 10).
I remember this big man from Lithuania. I mean Arvydas Sabonis is 7 foot 3 and 292 pounds. His size and skill made him one of the most dominant centers in basketball history. He was also known for his incredible skill set, including his passing, footwork, and rebounding abilities. Guess what! He is passing the torch to his son, Domantas Sabonis, who is just as dominate as him
domantas isn't even close to being as dominant as Arvydas, people don't realise just how insane he is..he could run, bench 500, his vision, his shooting, his size, his everything was almost perfect, he was a completely package, only to be torn by injuries
I always liked Arvydas, on how he played the game. If he just played much earlier in the NBA, maybe we could have something to talk about. And yeah, before Jokic, there was Arvydas.
Arvydas was Jokic before Jokic. On second thought, Arvydas was a TALLER and MORE ATHLETIC version of a Jokic Imagine if Sabonis was able to play with a contender Portland in the late 80's early 90's along with Drexler. Their rivalry with the Jordan Bulls will be a sight
I use to love watching him play as a kid, his IQ is unmatched. In my opinion he is a WAY better player than Jokic and shouldn't even be in the same breath.
just imagine he torn his achiles twice in same year 1987 and was operated blindly in 1980s without no computers by russian doctors...Dude played till 2004 with one healthy leg and still was MVP of euroleague at 40 :)
I watch him live during the 80's he was the best center in the world for period of ten year's .The problem for him was no regime and far to many injuries...
A lot of people put D-Rose staying healthy as their biggest "NBA What-If" and rightfully so. But for me, mine is what if Sabonis got to the NBA sooner, like when the hawks drafted him. We could be talking about him the same way we do Hakeem, Kareem, or Shaq
ArvySabonis is your Custom Center that have 99 in Close Range, Mid Range, Layup, Blocking, Speed, Defense, 80 in other categories except Stealing. Complete Package.
It's very fascinating to think what sabonises career would have looked like if he had entered the NBA earlier then he did but luckily just wasn't on his side
Great video, but you forgot to mention couple things: 1) Game 7 against Lakers was stolen by refs, rules did not apply to Shaq at that time 2) His last career game with Žalgiris against Maccabi was the most devastating loss of the last 20 years, we still don't talk about it
Even though I'm fully confident in sabonises ability to dominate the NBA I'm happy he was able to dominate the Euro League and get paid a couple a million along the way
The guy is a God in Lithuania, so I know quite a bit about him. So the vid is quite inaccurate, 1st time in my life that I heard about him being "devoted" to gomelsky or that he "wanted" to play while injured. The actual reasons: He wasnt let go to NBA and he was ordered by SSRS to play or else. When SSRS finally fell and he was pretty much in a wheel chair, he lost all confidence in his ability to play. Then him going to Spain, recovering, winning everything in EU led him to finally decide to go to NBA at 31.
Rumor has it that, after his retirement, Arvydas split his game into three parts: he gave Jokic his passing, Dirk his shooting, and Embiid his legs
hmm, I see who got the worst end of the deal
😂😂😂
Sheesh, also removed the competitiveness for Embroiled 💀
Edit: Embomed, Embrittled. Works aswell 😂
@@chunkeydonkeymonkeyDefinitely Dirk!🤪
@@MistaP13
Jokic is better than dirk in everything
All the love from Croatia to Arvydas. One of the best of all times!!!
Arvydas is an interesting figure. Glad to learn about this
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Me too.GREAT documentary on Arvydas,I wish someone would ask Shaq his opinion on this GREAT player,but,I'm sure Shaq would have GOOD things to say about Arvydas.
@@kerry-j4m Nope Shaq hated the man
@@deironwolf8167 He did ??? Why ???
@@kerry-j4m not sure maybe ego maybe not but only heard negative things coming from Shaq about Sabonis
This vid won’t get a bajillion views but it was one of your best. More people should know about this dude. Great stuff Nonstop
been waiting on this forever
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lol Foreal?
As a European 🇪🇺:
A young Sabonis was like Jokic with not quite as good court vision but taller WAY MORE ATHLETIC and obviously a better defender (Jokic isn't bad, but Arvydas in his prime was avarging like 5 blocks per game so I believe he would have made an all defence team) he was also better in the post.
He could have been a a top 5 center ever 🥲
USSR did him dirty (btw Nikos Galis was arguably outplaying him in the EuroBasket, he deserves a video too. He is pretty underrated (obviously because didn't play in the NBA), same with Oscar Schmitt)
Yes
Drazen Peteovic too
@@Manuel-04 Just Petrovic (because he at least played in the NBA) is known by Americans (even just as a big what if and a good shooter).
He is underrated, but at least most people knew he existed
@@philip5454 Maybe Americans dont know who Galis was but still he averaged 40 a season and outplayed Sabonis in euroBasket
I just look at his international stats he never average 5 blocks per game like you said but his highest was 3.6 and was consistent around 2bpg
Sabonis had a complete package. He could run, dunk and crash boards like a young Shaq, his court vision and passing skill was amazing and you could compare him to prime Bill Walton or Larry Bird. He could make hook shots in the post and 3 pointers from outside. He also was great defender. One of the greatest centers in all of basketball.
This is like watching a documentary straight from that era-amazing editing and vibe! 📺👏
He's a hall of famer that says it all
Definitely
Sabonis is one of the most underrated basketball players ever.
as a lithuanian, i must say this was a great video. You managed to mention most of the important facts about his career and showed just how amazing he was
While Arvydas wasn't able to reach the NBA much sooner, there's no doubt that he helped contribute to the rise of European basketball.
And that's the silver lining of this story
And is one of the best European basketball players ever
Portland is so damn unlucky. Imagine if they got prime sabonis when they were supposed to. Sabonis would have been on those Drexler led teams that already went to the finals. The only hole they had was at center. That's potentially a 90's Blazers dynasty. That would change mj's legacy drastically.
What was lost in that description of 2000 wcf game 7 was the obvious ref job for the lakers. Sabonis could not do any thing to shaq the whole series or it would be a foul. Sabonis never got in foul trouble yet magically, the one person that could guard shaq, was fouling out. HMMMM
I have to agree. Imagine Portland and Chicago duking it out in multiple Finals throughout the 90's.
Clyde, MJ, and even Sabonis would be in the GOAT discussions.
for some reason, Portland had lots of misfortune regarding picks and injuries, and Clippers with lots of chokings. Like it's a fate thing.
If you're a big and Portland draft you, your knees are fucked
Clingan be the exception pls.
Lakers got favored against Kings as well. They'd do anything for the TV ratings and sales
Imagine Duckworth&Kersey alongside Aryvdas Drexler Porter
How would that not be the best starting 5? Cliff Robinson off the bench more than likely adding 14-18 a game
As a Bulls fan of 40+ yes Blazers with Sabonis take early 90s titles
Same for Rockets in 94&95 had MJ been playing, Rockets had their number
Probably the best put video on Sabonis career on youtube yet. I've seen them all. Short, to the point, no time wasted with all the key moments highlighted. Only one short error. Gomeslky definately didn't want for him to play in finals for zalgiris, cause he was coaching the oposite team the Moscow CSKA.
I remember him well as a Trail Blazer fan. He was fun to watch.
Unfortunately, I wasn't around or watching basketball to see him but I heard about this dude. Heard he was a beast that could combat Shaq.
He was
A pre injury sabonis with dominique wilkins on that atl team would have changed nba history as we know it even mj bulls would not have 6 chips i can guarantee that...o what could have been ..this is one of the greatest what ifs in league
Now THIS is a historic father/son duo, albeit not at the same time.
“He’s not YourVydas… He’s not MyVydas … He’s Arvydas Sabonis” lol I remember an ESPN anchor said this back in the day 🤣
Sounds like Berman
I think it was!
Such a legend and a what if story
Always felt Sabonis was underrated. Skilled passer and consistent shooter
It's fascinating how people like him and jockic can see the floor ball and players on the court
Remember, Bobby Knight said Jordan is the best player he ever seen before MJ played in NBA. This man knew things.
He called his friend in Portland saying he man you gotta take this Jordan kid
Their response? thats nice but we need a center
Bobby Knight well draft Jordan an play him at center
He was so good, that very few realize this. Stop telling, he would be top 5 center of all time, cause if he would come to NBA before and avoided injuries , he'd become GOAT or at least top 5 player of all time. Arvydas had tremendous passion and love for the game so officials/coaches exploited him for their needs, to the point his legs were completely destroyed. After such Achilles injuries he has suffered, athletes were done with their careers at that time. Yet Arvydas was still best player in Europe because of his skills, despite loosing all of his exceptional athleticism, almost not running or jumping anymore.
And Gomelsky could not stop him from playing in the NBA, just nobody from ussr could play professionaly abroad until 1989, when ussr started to collapse. Marciulionis went to NBA, Sabas to Spain. We have seen what he's capable of , despite all the injuries, when he came to NBA 31 years old. I think if he would come to Portland in 1989 , when he was 25, no one would have doubt he is top 5 center of all time, despite being the shell of himself in around 1985 before injuries...
eik tu, goat, nebeuostyk gal jau tu kliju 🤣🤣🤣
@@NBADUNKMAN GIMIAI IDIOTU TOKIU IR LIKSI....
Starting 5 made me really appreciate the Sobonis's. I slept on Domantas and he became my favorite to watch after LBJ. He's an amazing player. His dad was a boss as well! Basketball pedigree out the wazoo.
Just read Wiki about his injuries
He simply didn't play from age 22 to age 24 due to a double ruptured Achilles tendon.
5:12 fun fact: after that game, Kenny brought Hakeem’s water to David Robinson.
Ok?
Honestly...the best international player ever, for sure. Arguably the most skilled center of all time.
If only Arvydas played during Portland's title contention alongside Terry Porter and Clyde Drexler, that trio would've been *DEADLY*
If if he did come to the NBA before his injuries, the Blazers would probably have like 2 or 3 rings
Imagine Sabonis demolishing the rim during his prime in the NBA
Arvydas made the NBA at 31 but seemed 50 at best. This is not disrespect, it's a statement of how great he was when younger. If he come in the NBA when young, he sure would be top 5 centers of all time (and still he can be in the top 10).
Or unhurt because it was injuries that truly cut out his longevity.
I remember this big man from Lithuania. I mean Arvydas Sabonis is 7 foot 3 and 292 pounds. His size and skill made him one of the most dominant centers in basketball history. He was also known for his incredible skill set, including his passing, footwork, and rebounding abilities. Guess what! He is passing the torch to his son, Domantas Sabonis, who is just as dominate as him
domantas isn't even close to being as dominant as Arvydas, people don't realise just how insane he is..he could run, bench 500, his vision, his shooting, his size, his everything was almost perfect, he was a completely package, only to be torn by injuries
I always liked Arvydas, on how he played the game. If he just played much earlier in the NBA, maybe we could have something to talk about. And yeah, before Jokic, there was Arvydas.
I'm glad you guys made a video on him really interesting to hear about sabonis
Arvydas was Jokic before Jokic. On second thought, Arvydas was a TALLER and MORE ATHLETIC version of a Jokic
Imagine if Sabonis was able to play with a contender Portland in the late 80's early 90's along with Drexler. Their rivalry with the Jordan Bulls will be a sight
make a "how good was rudy gay actually" video
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Yes
Not that good, actually
He had an okay career, but not anything legendary.
Regarding on this video, should make “How good was Sarunas Marciulionis actually”. Other great Lithuanian legend 🙏
Make a video "How Good Was Alonzo Mourning Actually"
What a great video to learn about the history also the young people don't know about. Wonderful video.
He probably would have been the greatest big man In nba history
We need a how good was bill Walton actually. RIP a legend
I use to love watching him play as a kid, his IQ is unmatched. In my opinion he is a WAY better player than Jokic and shouldn't even be in the same breath.
great video i love your videos man keep up the good work man you the goat
Another thing is, he is the reason we were able to witness The Dream Team because of how he beat US team prior.
For those who think Jokic can't be great in 80s and 90s, this guy is the proof that he could be great in those days too.
Arvydas Sabonis 💪🔥💪
This man loyalty to that coach ruined his health
Sabonis once tore his Achilles running up the stars too fast while trying to answer. A freak accident and he was still as good as he was.
The greatest basketball player of all time.
Very interesting. How about an episode about Detlef Schrempf?
just imagine he torn his achiles twice in same year 1987 and was operated blindly in 1980s without no computers by russian doctors...Dude played till 2004 with one healthy leg and still was MVP of euroleague at 40 :)
Sabonies had the potential to be the best center in the NBA its just a shame he didn't come to the NBA sooner
I watch him live during the 80's he was the best center in the world for period of ten year's .The problem for him was no regime and far to many injuries...
this guy couldve been one of the most talented nba centers ever
A lot of people put D-Rose staying healthy as their biggest "NBA What-If" and rightfully so. But for me, mine is what if Sabonis got to the NBA sooner, like when the hawks drafted him. We could be talking about him the same way we do Hakeem, Kareem, or Shaq
arvydas sabonis was underrated
By 1992 he had already fallen off his peak which was probably 1985-86
Bruh a severely injured Arvydas is averaging 23 ppg and 10 rpg in the playoffs? I bet if he was healthy he could've averaged 40+ ppg and 20+ rpg😬
I can see that ngl
Strength of Shaq, height of Yao, defense of Hakeem, playmaking of Magic and shooting of Dirk.. Arvydas is the real deal
ArvySabonis is your Custom Center that have 99 in Close Range, Mid Range, Layup, Blocking, Speed, Defense, 80 in other categories except Stealing. Complete Package.
It's very fascinating to think what sabonises career would have looked like if he had entered the NBA earlier then he did but luckily just wasn't on his side
1:55 Tkatchenko (with the mustache) behind the coach. Imagine having to play against him 😦
It's nice to know he's in the hall of fame deservedly so
Its so fascinating to think what the NBA would have looked liked if sabonis had been allowed to go to the NBA
Let's put it this way. Sabonis prime was in Europe. If Sabonis had been a healthy player he would be considered top 10 all time
Portland just has the worst luck with drafting talented players with glass knees/feet.
nice vid
I mean it's just 22 min at already 1k views? Wow NONSTOP fans really like this content
I didn’t see him in his prime, but when I saw him he played a lot like Jokic but was way stronger than the Joker.
Do chris bosh next
i never knew this nba player until you said Domantas
I got an ad for the Arthritis association in my country. Not sure they could've picked a better video to put it in.
Hi nonstop , i want to start a channel like urs , any tips ?
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Some say...Sabonis is biological Jokic father. Furstrated in 1995 Eurobasket loss...he went on fums.
He was probably Jokic before there was a Jokic, but bigger and better defensively.
The Blazers have the 3 literal biggest what if's in NBA history in Bowie, Sabonis, and Oden. 4 if you wanna count Walton.
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@Pleasemison He's possibly the figuratively largest what if. I was pointing out that the other 4 were literally BIG men.
@@rsmitty483 true
Kawamura's passes are like Arividas' passes.
Great video, but you forgot to mention couple things:
1) Game 7 against Lakers was stolen by refs, rules did not apply to Shaq at that time
2) His last career game with Žalgiris against Maccabi was the most devastating loss of the last 20 years, we still don't talk about it
He’s an old modern big man of his time…
The AI narration needs help. Otherwise decent video of a legend.
11:03 uhm 10 BPG? Like 10 BLOCKS PER GAME. Ain’t no way 😂
Zero doubt: had he come to the NBA in his prime, the Blazers would've won rings.
Very good, GOAT potential, or at least KAJ and Wilt level
Lithuania mentioned W
Drexler is not wrong. Those Blazers could have had him, Sabonis and Petrovic in the same team. You had there the potential to win rings.
I keep thinking the lebron one will come soon and he will retire but long live the king
where did you find č in divac?
Sabonis is my GOAT
Prime Arvydas would eat Domantas for breakfast lol
It's fascinating to know there was a poor man's Nikola jockic before jockic but there are probably poor man versions of every NBA ever more or less
The answer - insanely good
Awesome
Even though I'm fully confident in sabonises ability to dominate the NBA I'm happy he was able to dominate the Euro League and get paid a couple a million along the way
if you look closely, you can see a lithuanian player sitting on the floor taking a picture like a professional @0:16
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do one about deni avdija
Pretty sad he didn't get to play in his prime during his NBA days
Make a ray allen one
The guy is a God in Lithuania, so I know quite a bit about him. So the vid is quite inaccurate, 1st time in my life that I heard about him being "devoted" to gomelsky or that he "wanted" to play while injured. The actual reasons: He wasnt let go to NBA and he was ordered by SSRS to play or else. When SSRS finally fell and he was pretty much in a wheel chair, he lost all confidence in his ability to play. Then him going to Spain, recovering, winning everything in EU led him to finally decide to go to NBA at 31.
In honor of his recent retirement, "How Good Was Prime Rudy Gay" vid sounds sweet on the horizon.
Clout Chaser
@@TBCLINQ How is respecting a basketball player "Clout Chasing"? Lol.
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@@younglove3362 Saw this on the other Rudy Gay post. Try something else
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I did this on plenty of post 📫 actually.
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wow...doc rivers really been blowing big gmes since 1982
make a video of How Good Was antonio mcdyess