Meet The Fish That Shouldn't Exist
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Fun fact:
The man who found the coelacanth was the grandfather of famous wildlife biologist and conservationist, Forrest Galante
Forrest now has a TV show called Extinct or Alive where he follows in his grandfather's footsteps and attempts to rediscover animals previously thought to be extinct
He was successful on a few occasions, the show is well worth a watch for anyone who likes any sort of wildlife documentaries
Forrest is one of my favorite scientists and he's amazing on podcasts too. I could listen to him talk all day!
@@rjuwuxd3012 Because he tells made up fucking tales lmao
Yeah he's done a few with Jo rogan always been a good listen
@@cammybrown1626 Yeah I really enjoyed them, you can just tell how much passion he actually had for wildlife, it's incredible
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I was born and grew up in East London. I remember being amazed as a kid seeing that Coelacanth for the first time on a school tour. Every time I get a chance to travel to my home town I pop into the East London museum to see it. Awesome video as always.
Also from East London, can't say I go visit the weird ass statue we have, but everyone of us know about it for sure
As a non uk person I can not see me going there anytime soon
This is East London, South Africa. Not the UK@@SAMIAMFNX
Also remember a school trip there some 28 years ago. Been hoping for some 20+ years the country would get better as it’s a beautiful amazing place. Maybe in another 20 hey
are they protected ? hopefully we dont exterminate the species
I'm quite obsessed with this fish and I can't say that there was anything new I learned from this. But still, the amount of effort put into the presentation, animation and your well-written piece of storytelling totally makes it worth watching all the way to the end. I would recommend this to any of my friends.
i wonder how would it taste
old? :)
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@@literally_alec I've heard it tastes absolutely terrible!
I wonder how it would… you know what maybe it’s time to log off for today
@@literally_alecit uses its tongue to taste with just like us
They should have called it a Concealacanth, because of its penchant for remaining concealed for 66 million years, me thinks. Great to see another Thoughty 2 video in quick succession since the last one
agree ...totally
Jolly good jest indeed
lol at the funny take. But yeah, it is called coelacanth because of the hollow tubed spine referred to as a coelom filled with an oily fluid. I think it would have been worth mentioning in the video.
@@busybillyb33 Awesome, that's good to know
Yeah, it funny how NOW we act all confident about exactly how many there are left and where they are… considering us humans only just recently found all but 3 of em.
🤔….IdK!? These sneaky ‘Concealacanth’ b**tards seem pretty damn crafty to me. They just up and stopped evolving and stayed hidden? They’re patiently waiting us humans out, biding their time in a state that allowed to to survive the last mass extinction event. They’re waiting for the next one THEN they’ll make their move, all come out, finish fully evolving, and rule the planet as some kind of super intelligent, species of amphibious fish people…who already know what they’ll need post climate change. Lol. They’re probably already thinking 🐸…💭 ‘Dopey humans! If ya planned on melting the ice caps ya should’ve grew your lungs but kept your gills…like us”
Come to think of it, it’s probably not a great sign that these fishy geniuses are only now, in recent decades, coming up to check on us close enough where three of em have been caught already.
Great presentation. I wish you had mentioned Hans Fricke, the German biologist who was the first person to film the Coelacanth in its natural habitat. He gave the keynote talk at the 1988 Society of Vertebrate Paleontologists convention on Drumheller, Alberta. It was a memorable speech. He had a lot of trouble getting funds for a "submersible" (as he called it). As he put it, after WWII the German people weren't very interested in submersibles, and he had to find private sponsor.
Fun fact: in indonesia it's called "ikan raja laut" which means "sea king fish" which is a bold claim when fish like orcas, sharks, etc have been proclaimed so called "king of the seas" but now considering that coelacanth now confirmed to be one of the oldest surviving fish species the indonesian is right after all
Just a gentle reminder that orcas are not fish; they are marine mammals. 👍
@@AGDinCA If he persists, just slap him with one of your evolved flippers.
@@davidanderson_surrey_bc 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@davidanderson_surrey_bc What we have to persist is that Thoughty2 called Indonesian coelacanth as Indian -_-
Seriously
@@IOHiopa Coelacanth isn’t “Indonesian.” It’s a fish.
If you wanna get picky, they live in waters off of _Africa,_ in the _Indian_ Ocean. Across the gulf from Indonesia. If we’re humanizing animals, it’s either African or Indian. The only Indonesian thing about it is the person who discovered it.
And, as we all know, the ethnicity of the person who discovers something doesn’t actually matter, and never has. We care more about the actual discovery, the animal.
I have told almost every single one of my family and friends about your videos, because I have been enjoying them so much for the last few years since I started watching. You are one of the most entertaining and informative content creators that I have ever had the pleasure of watching and I just want to thank you so much bro. Cheers to you!
I read a book about this fish, very interesting reading. The locals naturally knew of its existence long before the rest of us.
Used to repair bicycle tires with the scales I once read.
Sadly not all knowledge is documented nor shared... A large part of it is just lost to time, at least historically, until the internet appeared
@@marymcfarlane5108 Check out Philomena Cunk. I'm sure you will fall in love Mary.
I always found the coelocanth interesting, I was so happy to catch one in animal crossing lol
My greatest catch in monster hunter world
Kind of amazed you didn't make a reference that a Pokemon was made based on this creature, the Relicanth that was added in Ruby and Sapphire. The ones that had too much water.
And emerald ! But yeah. Gen 3 rules. Gen 4 introduced me to pvp strategy, but Gen 3 will always hold a special place in my heart.
Coelacanth is also a Yugioh Monster. Super Ancient Deepsea King Coelacanth :D
Why would he make a reference to a Pokémon?
@@deepseadarew6012apparently its called sea king in indonesia
@@clopsy4559 It's literally one of the most popular franchises in the entire gaming history. Why would anyone avoid making a pokemon reference ?
It breaks my heart my country Nigeria makes it difficult to financially support creators like you.
But please know that I appreciate all you do.
Awesome video! My grandpa lives in East London, South Africa, and I remember him taking me to the local museum to show me the stuffed coelacanth. Thank you for shedding some more light on this bizzare fish!
5:35 I love that one of the main musical themes from Beauty and the Beast was used here!!! With The Beast being an “animal in transition”, this was a subtlety clever choice. Good on ya 😊
Truly fascinating. Whoever does the scripting for Arran's videos, they're doing amazing work. Would be so great to see a Thoughty2 video about the history of Thoughty2!
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agreed.
his storytelling is remarkable
Perhaps it is the methods which Thought2 uses to teach or the maturity of your present self that keeps you interested.
yep...so true@@kiltedsasquatch3693
The duck walked up to the lemonade stand, and e said to the man running the stand "hey!" Bom bom bom, got any grapes?
Bravo, mate. Wonderful mini documentary. Though I’ve known about these incredible fish already. You have taught me things that I didn’t know about them. You learn something new every day when listening to your videos. Again bravo.
Thanks for the telling/updating of this story. It's long been one of my favorites. The first time I heard it, I'm pretty sure Marjorie Courtenay-Latimer was described as a secretary or assistant. (As in not an avid naturalist.) And I think at some point I heard that the local fisherman knew all about it. But perhaps the local knowledge was a confusion with the Indonesian coelacanth.
Yup, there he is. The Fish that changed my City Icon
Correction for 18:12 Manado are located in North of Sulawasi Island not in the middle.
14:44
Scientists:The coelacanth is extinct.
Coelacanths:My death was greatly exaggerated.
I never thought I could ever feel as intrigued by a million year old fish as I am right now!!! Lol. What an amazing episode.
I absolutely ADORE your videos, always with something fun and interesting to show. Thank you for your work and dedication
Thank you Thoughty. Great topic. Been recommending your excellent channel to friends and sharing your videos for years.
I like that, when you start your ad sponsor clip, you put a progress bar at the bottom of the screen to let us know it's going to be a brief interruption.
Fish have never really captured my interest like other animals, but I friggin LOVE Coelacanths! I'm super excited to see this channel cover the topic!
I wonder what it means to be a naturalist in 1997
Love your videos mate, it's been awesome watching the channel grow. You have an amazing way of having me completely captivated by a subject i otherwise probably wouldn't have given a second thought, very informative and educational but also always fun and relaxing. Top notch stuff
I truely love learning, and it doesn't get much better than watching your channel. Crime, random facts, history and general knowledge, as well as the more specialist stuff sticks in my head unlike Homer Simpsons new for old format. And I am very thankful for it. Keep it up Mr 42 we want more...
but it had long been known to fishermen in the northern Indian Ocean, who merely said, 'oh yes, the ugly fish - we cannot sell it, so we always throw it back'
This is a fascinating animal and you did a great job telling its story. I always look forward to your videos. So interesting and informative!
Believing some cosmic force made everything does a disservice to how beautiful and fascinating animals are in how they change over time to suit their environment
I love your videos and how much they vary in topic but all keep me hooked! You're so charismatic and have really found your flow. :)
great video... loved this story since i was a kid, growing up in a biologist family. but i didn't know about the 2nd species, thanks
coelecanth was just chilling
Thank you for an awesome and fun video, I wouldn't have come across a lot of these topics without your channel.
I never posted anything here before, but I would like to say this is one of the youtube channels I enjoy to watch and shared them to my friends. Thanks for providing in depth information to people who are curious of lots of things, like yours trully.
British band Shriekback had an instrumental track called Coelacanth in the 1980's.
People like you make comment sections an absolute delight. A fun tidbit that also exposes me to a never before heard of band, thank you Dear🌻
Thanks. I might have liked that in the 1980s and I don't know if it would have been available in US. I listened to "Lined Up" too since I would more likely to hear that.
The track made me look deeper into the not-so-extinct fish, and one was spotted off the coast of Sierra Leone in the 50's. The track itself is quite haunting.
I saw the thumbnail and was like Relicanth?!
Funniest thing about East London is that people in South Africa don't know it exist either 😂😂😂. The conversation I had with people when I moved up to Johannesburg, where you come from? Oh I'm from East London. Ah so you come from overseas, why would you come here? No no no I come come from a small town which is situated between Durban and Port Elizabeth. Ah I never knew there was a place like that. Yeah I gathered 😂😂. That's why I always say people should travel their own countries first before worrying about going overseas since there are such awesome places just down the road.
I grew up there. We always saw ourselves as a forgotten backwater sort of town that was always the last place to get anything new. Oh, and of course I saw the original Coelacanth many times, and also saw the second one which was at Rhodes University.
My step father, Paul Buhan was an ichthyologist professor and taught a biological illustration class at Shippensburg State University in PA. He had a sign on his door, "come in just for the halibut ". He would have loved this episode. Thanks for all the great entertainment-- and your always on my watch list. Glad you have financial support, and maybe someday I can throw you something too...anyways thanks again from Sonoma County CA. 🙂🩵
This is the best channel on RUclips. You deserve way more credit that you have. This is awesome. Been a long time supporter. Love it, carry one the good job 🎉
I was about 10 years old when I read about the Coelacanth in a Readers Digest book about unusual animals. I have been fascinated by the fish for the past 50 years.
So you are like in your 60's?
@@who-ny5oe In November I'll reach the big 60.
@@BradGryphonn I'm 21 so I'm quite young and I can't wait to see what my life have in store for me.
@who-ny5oe If I can offer some advice, treat your life as an adventure. There will be highs and lows, but don't ever do what you feel you have to do to satisfy your peers. You do you and explore. Do the things YOU want to do. You'll thank yourself in the future. Rock n Roll!
Today I sent a research paper about critics of Darwinism and I discovered for myself the Huxley Wilberforce debate. This shit was hilarious, basically Wlberforce joked about Huxley, known as Darwin's "bull dog", having an ape for a grandmother. And Huxley retaliated that it is better to have an ape for a grandmother than of an ignorant moron who plunges into topics he knows jack shit about. And after his words everyone jumped from their seats and one woman fainted. I just love when scientist community becomes overdramatic. This debate also happened at the opening of Oxford University Museus.
Yes, Kepler & other heliocentric scientists faced the religious scorn back then. Didn't they? It's a joke for science to be not treated as science.
People need to provide more evidence than sticking to their beliefs religiously.
This is why I think pseudo science must be classified as a new religion.
A true scientist will be amused when somebody proves him wrong. A pseudo scientist will indoctrinate themselves as people of various religion do to themselves and their group.
Is it any different or is it one of those basic fallacies of man?
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Funny they are still a bunch of trash-talking drama queens to this day :)
I guess the fact that DNA disproves Darwin's hypothesis of evolution is irrelevant.
@@lanefunai4714 yeah, no it doesn't, ya troll.
Love your info and your wit, don't stop making videos man!
Thanks for all you do I look forward to seeing your work and love your delivery
As usual you do a great job describing this incredible living fossil called the Colelacanth. How it has managed to survive millions of years as a species. Thanks for sharing this very interesting video and looking to see new videos 👍👍
Love your work
animal crossing taught me about the coelacanth many years ago and I’m proud to say I had a hunch that was going to be a topic in this video. great stuff!
Absolutely love your videos!
The Ginkgo tree is in the same boat -- A living fossil that is said to be close to 300 Million years old.
Magnolias are another ancient tree still around today. It may have been the first flowering tree.
Imagine being pregnant for 5 years... The horror
The kid will be ready for school soon after its first breath.
Fascinating, educational, entertaining and fun!! My favorite kind of video! Thank-You, Arran!❤😊
No, thank YOU! Another awesome video. You put so much effort into research and how you tell it in such a brilliant way is awesome! This was a really different and cool one where we all learn things about life on earth. Very, very good. And again, thank you! loved it
We barely know the species on our planet let alone the vast universe.
im a south african and know this fish, from my childhood. my grandad was a big fisherman and caught two i know of. somewhere history is not adding up.
Someone's grandad is a bullsh*tter.
How? He caught fish from the ocean
A lot of locals in Africa and the Indies knew of the fish but didn't know they were that rare and undiscovered. Most fisherman just sold them after they died or released them to the water.
I had to replay when Aaron said that it took so long to arrive because they went to the wrong London, because I giggled & I thought "Did he just giggle too?" Then I had to listen 3 more times because, Aaron has a nice giggle!😊
Always look forward for your videos, and hopefully see many more in the future, thank you
Been a sub to thoughty2 for so long
Missed this channel 😫🖤
The progress bar for the sponsored ad was a nice touch and made it a lot more bearable, somehow.
Just thought you'd appreciate the feedback.
I've noticed that most of those run for 90 seconds. The channels promise a set amount of "airplay" to their sponsor. It's never random, so just skip ahead 80 seconds when they start. You'll usually be close to the end of the ad. ✌️
I just LOVE your channel. Keep doing what you're doing.😊
You know a fish is gangster when the fisherman calls the museum for recognition
I'm still waiting on the day that we find sasquatch.
How about a Kilted Sasquatch?
@@kiltedsasquatch3693 sure
“A Simple Comment.”
Apparently, saying this sentence will put a smile on your face. Thanks for another amazing video!
As usual Arran, another thoughtfully presented video.
As an aside, Charles Darwin proposed that Natural Selection was the mechanism through which evolution occurs, focusing on genetic adaptations and mutations that make an organism better suited to its environment. Naturalists, scientists and philosophers in other fields had been exploring and publishing works about the foundations of evolution for over 100 years before Darwin published his landmark On the Origin of Species. To credit Darwin with coming up with the theory of evolution is not accurate, it's just that natural selection isn't an idea with holes. It's one of the most solid theories in science, and as such made the musings of earlier contributors mostly forgettable.
It's weird how certain kinds of content become such a part of your life... your channel is really important to me and thousands of other people, I'm sure. I don't know your story or how you got here... but I'm so happy you and your channel exist.
Love this episode! I grew up in East London, and my school Selbourne was attached to the Museum (on the same grounds) We would often get to go look at the exhibits and the coelocanth was my favorite.
Loved your content for years now. Keep it up
"Big fuck off asteroid " is the best way I've heard it described.
you look younger without the moustache....and less the 1910's look
To be honest if you didn’t do these sorts of videos I would have never known all these weird and wonderful stories and facts about the most crazy things, by the way your actually quite a good story teller, I’ve been watching your channel now for roughly 5 years I think wow it’s been a while, hope all is going well!
Really? This is basic general knowledge. You need to start reading books.
@@thursoberwick1948but reading books isn’t useful and it’s not ‘basic’ knowledge
@@clopsy4559 Reading books is EXTREMELY useful. You'll find a wider range of opinions there than you ever will on RUclips or Faecebook which are policed to the gills.
@@thursoberwick1948 what books do you read?
@@AdamSharif. I've read hundreds of books. You might as well asking which food I eat. I can't read everything but I read everything from novels to books on science, linguistics, architecture, art etc. They go into far more depth than websites do including Wikipedia.
Great videos I always look forward to them keep up the great work!
Thanks for taking the time to fill our minds, with knowledge and triva. I look forward to hearing the stories and facts, you have put together. You truly are an entertainer. Love the animations too. Great work.
The irony that discovering it is not extinct pushing it closer to extinction, our reaction should be figuring out how to preserve them as we don't have many animals on earth like that, we could learn a lot by studying these fish.
Whether we discovered it or not wouldn't have changed the fact that we would still be doing "human activity" in the ocean. It would have gone extinct without us realising that it was there to begin with. Now that we know it's there, we can, hopefully, preserve it.
Well Thoughty you did it again. You picked one of the most uninteresting subjects imaginable, and then turned it into a fascinating story. That's why I love this channel.
Uninteresting?!
@@milanradojkovic3818 Right? Like, it's a once thought extinct species being rediscovered after millions of years. Where is the uninteresting part? The fact it's a fish? Most once extinct species of animals are most likely to be sea animals due to the fact that they were the most well-off animals when the meteor wiped out most other species.
Thank you for such entraining, educating and informative videos.
Please keep making them, they are much appreciated.
I still remember being around 12 and going on a field trip to Scripps Institute where we saw a Coelacanth on display, suspended in an aquarium of formaldehyde to let you imagine it being alive and just hanging out there. I was enamored by seeing an actual animal that is so rare and beautiful. I am now 60 and a home marine aquarist with a few living reef aquariums and one my favorite fish is the comet fish (Calloplesiops altivelis) which for some reason give me a Coelacanth vibe since they are very exotic fish in the way they look and move, very unique among other reef fish. Just google images of Marine Betta to see what I mean.
For a fish that is 400 million years old, I imagine there were varieties of it ... some preferred shallow water and some preferred deeper water. After the asteroid wiped out the dinosaurs, the shallow water variety died out, but the deep sea version persisted. It probably didn't "disappear" for 66 million years, many people probably encountered them they just didn't know it was this epically historic species.
Hey look a rare fish let’s fish it out even tho it can be one of the last ones. -humans
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This also really puts a zipper on the theory of evolution as far as going from fish to Fiona evolution is a real part of everything's existence but it will eternally remain a theory and not a fact.
Are you using the scientific definition of "theory" or the layman's definition? They are two very different definitions.
@@glennjpanting2081 pretty sure that he is not using the scientific definition of theory
@@yourlocallesbian6448 That was my guess, too.
@glennjpanting2081 oh really 😂
@@miles-thesleeper-monroe8466 Yes, really.
Fascinating video! I love the way you tell stories.
I love all your content! Keep up the great work!
Been watching for years . Love your video. Keep up the great work. It's helped me through so many hard time most recently my father's passing. Thank you for all your research and hard work
I’m sorry about your loss! May God give you strength in this difficult time.
For preservation purposes, I'm wondering why they didn't plop it in a tub of formaldehyde or some kind of alcohol to stop rot?
One of the best RUclips channels by far love your work
Hey mate , i really love your content the info you provide . The way you express it . Cant wait for another one . Keep it up Cheers!
I love this story and you did a great job as always
Fabulous video! I love your presentation style! Super informative, but also fun and never boring! Fabulous. Thanks thanks thanks
Thank you. You're the best and love your work!
I did my first “report” on the Coelacanth in grade school. Maybe fourth grade?, in the early 70’s. I’m still thrilled to hear about them as I near my sixties. One of my greatest thrills was to see video of a Coelacanth at sea in it’s natural habitat.
I watched a doc about this when i was about 11, blew my mind! Still had to watch though, love this channel
At the end, when he said humans might make them extinct, I just looked at him and said
they’ll be back "TERMINATOR VOICE”
Keep up the good work. I always enjoy your program.
I’ve been fascinated with this fish since I was a kid and my parents got me a big box of animal cards. I’m 50 now and still fascinated by the story. I find it funny how the one specimen was found in a fish market. Apparently the locals had been catching them for years and it wasn’t a big deal to them.
Evolution, Creation, Forgotten. a long time ago, ancient humans were on a vacation, they were on a tour ship, well they didn't make it back to the ship on time, and were left and Forgotten. So they just moved along, and made due, and in the end, there is no end, we are all just relatives of them.
I really like your style of videos. So interesting and enjoyable. Thank you
I really do enjoy your videos, keep up the great work
Unfortunately, my finances are extremely strained or I would definitely be a patreon member, I remember about 3 years or so ago when I started watching lots of RUclips videos and I first subscribed to this channel, out of all the channels I joined back then I don't think there's more than 1 or 2 of those I still watch, I got tired of many, most creators get either monotonous or just plain boring but there's maybe 3 channels I really look forward to seeing new uploads from and 42 is one. No matter what the subject, and it literally could be most anything, I know it will be interesting, entertaining, and usually educational. Thank you for always putting out such high quality content. I know I'll be here for the next 3 years also. 🤔