Plus they can send multiple zombies flying, built in bleed damage without mods. You can hit through small openings like doors and ladders without issue too. Great weapon.
@@willfultrain6779That’s the truth for real😂 I was specializing in clubs, and somehow I completed the spear hunter set first. I was quite annoyed because I had 1 book left in batter up, and ended up resetting my skill points to use spears
Yep... spears are almost always my go-to melee weapons, especially since they gave zeds a 10'+ arm reach, but nothing beats a stealth crossbow playthrough!
I have all the books, maxed out all magazines. Built a tier 6 stun baton. I get hit way more often than with my spear. Never run out of stamina with the spear, but I did with the baton.
10:00 I agree. As someone who loves to use the stun baton, when you properly deck it out, it becomes a weapon of destruction. The stun is nice, but with a repulsor mod, the zombies get sent flying in a ragdoll and knock down other zombies in the way, making you nearly untouchable. Putting points in damage & attack speed skills are also nice, but if you put it into the physician skill, you can get a 20% dismemberment chance at level 4 and a 10% instant kill chance at level 5.
@Rex_gaming-wg9rv Stun Baton is the absolute strongest melee weapon in the game, especially when you pair it with the food that makes the electrocute aoe. If you fall back to a choke point, you'll trivialize combat. When I run stun baton, I usually stop running ranged weapons.
@@daethe I have a pistol and a knife with my baton but I rarely use them. The knockback and electric spread gives me space to heal or move and honestly it just slaps!
@hppottiness yeah, and if you play co op, the stun baton also doesn't have a wide arcing swing so your chance of friendly fire during melee combat is reduced
As long as they use the same scale, limit S-tier to 2, and evaluate based on the weapon's value within their game-stage... so the lists are reasonably consistent in how they work.
Glock9 has said several times its bascially stunbatton, sledge hammer and machete because with full investment those three weapons can clear entire hoards alone. I think not long ago glock9 did an entire t6 with a stun baton only.
TFP "don't use tools as weapons" Also TFP "lets make the sledge hammer (a tool) a weapon class, oh and the final axe tier a BATTLE axe" Almost every one of the weapons needs something else to be really good, but so does the entire rest of the game even after so many years.
The shovel is actually a decent weapon also, weirdly enough, I've used just the shovel to deal with the 'supply cache' dig missions, do a sprint attack with it and the heads just seem to fly off.
I could never craft a higher than Lvl 1 Combat Stone Axe for some reason... I mean the iron and steel were fine but it just wouldn't give me better stone. Also I kind of hate that the Modder changed the Steel Axe to just be a recolored version of the Iron.
Tier 6 steel spear with all the right mods and all the perks is the best melee weapon in the game. Very high damage, very long range, pierce enemies, built in bleed, attack thru walls etc etc
Dede is clearly God Tier. Holds your stuff for more looting, heals you when your hurt, gives you extra stamina, warns you about enemies and keeps you company. Dede is the GOAT, lol
So true about the auto shotty sound. It SHOULD sound more like the Coil shotgun in Darkness Falls. In fact a lot of the things that are missed opportunities for the guns are addressed well in most of the overhaul mods like Darkness Falls and Undead Legacy. And the IYAZO gun pack mod.
Josh forgets one very important detail. It's what's make 7 days to 2 die.....HORDE NIGHT! in no world are you going to use crossbow over the sniper in a horde night. A silenced sniper can do just as a good job as the crossbow.
I'd place the pipe rifle in F, move the pipe pistol to E and magnum to D. I actually think the magnum works as a solid backup weapon for mid-game. You get them down and one shot them in the head. Or if the speed is set slow (not nightmare or sprint), you can just line up headshots pretty easy.
@Regal2313 I don't find it to be any better than the blunderbuss/pipe-shotgun/pipe rifle. Slightly higher numbers than the pipe rifle maybe, otherwise, it's the same problem.
@ personally I disagree. Better reload time, overall makes the game feel more like a survival game. Depends on the tier. Early game (from supply drops) it’s pretty good, acts as a sniper, while not being too loud, and get usually one tap early game MAYBE mid game, also not too bad without a scope
@@sovereignwinter I agree, it's doesn't deserve the toilet but it can't stand on it's own so I would rate it a C or a D level weapon only for it's support.
Everybody has their own style and preference. Josh's list is pretty fair and i agree with 95% of it. Silly but as throwables I would put rocks higher. It is my go to tool to distract wandering zombies. But hey, its my opinion.
I usually am the Intellect player in our group and I love stun batons! The satisfaction of sending the zeds fly in a ball of electricity is awesome, lol. Also the fact taking this route will full Int focus at the start helps get us rolling in vehicles faster for cheaper as well as lockpicking bonus. I then will switch focus to adding max parkour and Pistol/SMG. It is by far my favorite way to play. While my friends panic I just zap stun the zeds in place or send flying sometimes off buildings...all while laughing.
i have been looking through the coding this week and there is actually weaponization for Dee Dee there to be activated in the future. so technically she is a weapon.
Interesting fact is that Hunting knife is better in 1.2 because it uses less stamina on power attacks and does more dmg on power attacks than machete. But also kinda makes sense since machete got a bit of an AOE atk going on and hunting knife is a single target. But considering how easy it is to get a hunting knife - S tier easily!
Now I want you to take on a tier 5 POI using the Ranger Armor. I did a full playthrough and used two lever actions and two .44 revolvers. With Penetration and AP ammo it was pretty alright.
Well in that case allow me to correct his inaccuracies. S tier: steel club, steel sledge, sniper, pump shotgun. Machete is absolutely not S tier. F tier: stun bat, any knife, any pipe. This is for mid to late game, early game you can make anything work.
I wish the fire axe and the steel battle axes were viable weapons because it just makes sense. Just look at left 4 dead or zombie movies, and how well axes do.
Chainsaw would not be good at all in combat in real life either. It just doesn't slice through things like a hot knife through butter like some people seem to think.
@@kathrynck I'd give the wraps a lot higher of a rating, probably c, because all that is needed to repair it is leather which is super easy to get. And on warrior difficulty, the damage was very good and I was slaying zombies very quickly.
@@frozenburst64 I don't find the wraps to be any good on warrior difficulty. Brass is ok-ish, steel knucks are quite good. The range on all the fist weapons is poor, so I expect some compensation, the wraps just don't offer it.
Hey Woodle, could you have a look into Izayo's weapons pack or maybe do a new series with them included? He did an amazing job. I will definitively not play vanilla without the mod anymore. Cheers 😊
Only thing I would swap in the melee would be stun baton and machete but otherwise completely solid and fair. Machete to me is only peak with the level 6 assassins and horde nights it’s not nearly as good.
I did a fire man challenge once, where you used nothing but axes to kill the zombies. With miner 69er maxxed out, they steel axe is a beast. works similar to the sledge hammer.
I'm playin insane on the 8k map and I use the switchback horde base. And the stun baton is awesome for knocking back zed heads and saving the damage on your base. But in general I agree with your assessment of the weapons/tools. Luv yer chit keep up the great work b safe my luv to u and yours
Steel Spears are amazing, when you get the 2 spear perks up and some good armor you can one shot normal zombies, 2/3 shot ferals and get rads killed fast too if you aim for their heads.
Steel Sledge deserves an easy C tier I think. Quite bad in a ceiling-drop in a POI, but very respectable on horde night (with the right blocks). Pipe Rifle I'd give an F, no question. I ONLY repair them with 1 pipe, and sell them. Hunting Rifle I'd put in toilet tier. It's a let-down after the pipe rifle, which is already an F tier. If it had a 5-shot magazine at least (and a slightly quicker action) I'd give it maybe a D. The rest I'd make lots of minor 1-letter adjustments, but generally pretty similar results. I think TFP are thinking the lever action is a "30-30" ...which IS pretty common. But I agree it'd be nice to have more 44 weapons. I actually thought (back when pipe weapons were initially teased) that they'd all be 44's or shotguns, cuz that would just make sense if you were actually making something like that. Because the rimmed cases/shells would work, and nobody's going to mill out a chamber shoulder inside a pipe from Home Depot at that level of crafting competency. They really gotta get rid of that mega-crush silencer on the SMG... it makes the goat look ghetto. And if you actually tried to make a silencer out of a soda can, it'd be aluminum scrap in one shot. An oil filter would make some sense, since it's made to withstand high pressures. But I really miss the sleek black silencer on it.
In future voice based videos, I would suggest either lowering music volume or removing it. I usually listen to these types of videos, and it just gets in the way of listening to the content. Thanks for the video! Really enjoyed the content.
Batons and entire int tree is supposedly just support tree, it wasn't meant to be main-spec, just off-spec. Or when you role-playing with friends, one could main int to do crafting and provide area of denial and cc, medic and high end craft:
As a friend of mine would say, "Listen - if there's one thing I know, it's everything. And 7 Days weapons are a part of everything, so of course I know that."
Agility might be the only tree where the ranged weapon from the third tier is still worth keeping in the loadout when you get the fourth tier, even capped. An smg and dulture pair so well.
20:51. Terry the Titty Tickling Turret.😂👌 Laughed so hard when you first said that during horde night, and it made be about just as happy this time. Also, Deedee shouldn't have been graded at all just cause she's not even a weapon.
I tried a sledgy run one time, and once I finally got my hands on the steel sledge, I realized “dang, this thing is like really bad…” because I’d get smacked by a feral every time if I didn’t charge the power attack from like three hundred feet away because it’s SO SLOW
id definetly change steel axe up one tier. it's an amazing melee weapon with the same reach as the baseball bat, and when you mod it to do more enemy damage with the flame mod, it becomes a different demon.
I think the robotics spec should have a mod at max that they can make, like a "battery pack mod" that can be installed onto all melee weapons to do electric damage on hit. Like the stun baton, but slightly worse. That would be cool
josh you should come up with a type of testing out gameplay where you test out one branch of weapon each week without changing the difficulty, or maybe only changing the difficulty AFTER you've tested all the weapons out. no permadeath or penalties for dying, just coming back to the same stuff to test out the next weapon branch.
Not what I was expecting for the day, but it was fun. Not sure I agree with all those choices, but it's now been solidified! No changes allowed on this list 🤣
I agree with your reasoning and assessment of all but the ranking of the pistol. Finding a toilet pistol early in the game is so OP! This should raise the to at least "B" tier. The pistol is relevant until you get the SMG.
The stun baton, the only weapon in the game that a complete muppet can take on anything that is thrown at them, even when actively trying to fail, and still survive. The stun baton, literally has built in cheat codes that make the zombies just stand there ant take it. The stun baton, the only weapon in the game that has its own mod that grants it a second additional cheat code that flings not only the zombie you hit, but all zombies around the zombie you hit backwards and knocks them down. The stun baton, the only melee weapon in the game that makes you absolutely and unquestionably unkillable one on one against any zombie in the game. That stun baton takes the back seat to the machete and steel knuckles. I can't wait to see the next series where he clears Tier 6 quests with machete. Funny thing is, for that series he will probably use skull crushers and power attacks. We all know he'll have to bring plenty of band aides.
Stun baton, the only weapon in the game that makes you replace your mouse because you have to hit the zombies for nine years before they actually die. Stun baton, the only weapon in the game where stunned zombies can still hit you. Stun baton, the only weapon in the game where the fanboys are worse than a vegan crossfitter not shutting the fuck up about how 'great' their favourite weapon is.
The thing with the stun baton is, that if you dont have the right mods and the very expensive skill setup, its a gloving baseball bat that sparkles. A machete is alot better without the right build. With the right build the machette is a portable guillotine.
Great video, making an SMG asap!! Would be awesome to see what all your favorite/ worst mods for vehicles, weapons, armor… are ranked from S to toilet😂❤❤❤
Chainsaw isn't that bad. I did a roleplay playthrough as Ash from Evil Dead, and could only use weapons he used, and all zombies running. Chainsaw got the job done.
I mean on default difficulty sure. It’s okay, even with running zombies, but on insane difficulty then it literally just tickles the zombies and doesn’t stun them like at all. I think he’s ranking these with more favor towards insane/ nightmare so the chainsaw being in F-tier isn’t low enough for it.
@@prolificpoultry4899 fair. I really don't like when higher difficulties just make the enemies have more hit points. It's more fun when they're more creative. Like "only head shots do damage" or something.
The thing is... this list varies depending on difficulty settings. The Stun Baton is WAY more useful on average settings. The levels you play... I just hear Ranier Wolfcastle saying "These goggles, they do NOTHING!"
Josh I got a video idea. Horde on foot with each weapon and a timer to see how long you can last then rate the weapons. After doing individual play throughs with all the weapons for me the steel club stands above the rest, it’s fast and there is a book for rag doll. Machete and steel knuckles are great but I can’t do late game hoards on foot with them because they don’t knock down like the club does so I can’t manage 10+ zombies without getting swarmed. Steel sledge is good for me but requires late game stamina, buffs and regen. Heavy armor perk maxed, cardio perk maxed, sledge perk maxed, custom fit mods in all armor pieces, etc
I'd put pipe shotgun in the E or F tier. It's still a shotgun, and as such can cause the stun/slow to save you from a feral in the early game :P snowballs and rocks might be S-tier though, since they work on zombie animals if you decide to go to the wasteland earlier than you should!
Woodle i love the energy, but i feel that the Junk Turret is a little low rated, for the following reasons: You can make an absolute monster of a portable turret out of the Junk turret by modding it. it can take AP rounds, which means unlike standard turrets which actually need to dump buckets of ammo, a junk turret is capable of 2 shotting all but the spongiest of rad zombies (we talkin Cop, Wights, Tourists, and Demos.) They are also capable of pulling aggro which is wierd and rare but they can which means they can also be a decoy. Now im not suggesting either that they are S tier either cause they arent. they have their drawbacks. but these are an absolute must have regardless of build. B tier for sure. Once you get the specific perks for them though they are absolutely legendary and become High A rank. On a Side note, Drones get their own spot on the list between A and S Labled DeeDee and you messed up your ranking board Ser. You must be a drone to occupy that slot. Cheers Mate.
Woodle have you actually tried using a wrench/ratchet//impact driver as a melee weapon while being invested in Salvage operations? They do a surprising amount of damage.
Magazine fed lever actions have existed for 120 years , not to mention no ody that has tried has actually got a tube fed to go off with pointy bullets. Just in case hornady does make pointy bullets specifically for tube fed lever guns, its the leverevolution line of products.
Logically if steel knuckles are the best tier 3 melee. Then iron knuckles should be the best for tier 2 melee. So another reason to put iron knuckles into A tier
only thing id change about the melee list is baseball bat and iron knuckles. iron knuckles are also better than everything in B tier so it should be in A tier
I woulda 100% swapped the M60 with the SMG... IDK why the SMG was S when it sucks ass compared to the M60 at max game stage, max difficulty. Auto shotty too, shoulda been A,(For Auto), as at max difficulty the extra damage a Tier 6 Auto does over a tier 6 pump IS HUGE. And it will sit down a crown of rad wights. Otherwise, pretty solid tier lists.
When making this list did you take into account mods that you can put on things? Excample is a auto shotgun with a drum mag. Also are you also considering each weapon with their corsaspondent perks that buff the weapon?
20:00 Calling DD Lydia works perfectly because both are only good to carry your stuff, are moderately good at their job, and are constantly in the way of your aim, except when you actually need to talk to them. Also, missing opportunity to have the S tier color purple.
I was hovering over the dislike if the stun baton was actually going to be in the toilet tier. My only changes would be lowering the stone sledge hammer one tier, robot lowered one tier, raise the m60 to s tier, and raise auto-shotgun up one tier.
Thank you! Wish we ould habe a montage of your bwst and worst moments with each. Snds like a ton of editing work, but would be fun. Maybe a key scene with each A and S...
Gotta say, someone tested the silence capability of the guns a while back. Think it was at 1.0 release or A21. The pipe shotgun for all its crap, was the quietest gun you could put a silencer on. Imagine assassin rolling with a hot bar full of pipe shotguns and never waking a zombie once
Three Agility weapons in S tier and also the three weapons I use for my most used end-game loadout. Impossible for me to disagree with this completely official, absolutely 100% objective tier list :)
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Putting the pipe shotgun in the toilet is an insult to toilet pistols 😅
If it didnt take 3-5 business days (and always starts on a weekend) to reload I dont think Id hate it as much..
Pipe shotgun is like the old blunderbuss
If im using it, ive got 4 or 5 on my bars, and a melee weapon lol
After you complete the books. I’d argue Steel Spears are S tier. Power attacks pierce multiple zombies, kills refill your stamina, and that REACH👀
Plus they can send multiple zombies flying, built in bleed damage without mods. You can hit through small openings like doors and ladders without issue too. Great weapon.
Spears makes sense that they're good since the game just loves to hand out all the spear books when you want the others.
@@willfultrain6779That’s the truth for real😂 I was specializing in clubs, and somehow I completed the spear hunter set first. I was quite annoyed because I had 1 book left in batter up, and ended up resetting my skill points to use spears
Yep... spears are almost always my go-to melee weapons, especially since they gave zeds a 10'+ arm reach, but nothing beats a stealth crossbow playthrough!
I have all the books, maxed out all magazines. Built a tier 6 stun baton. I get hit way more often than with my spear. Never run out of stamina with the spear, but I did with the baton.
If I had a choice of going into battle with a drone, or with a junk turret, I'd pick the junk turret.
In my opintion turret should be s tier, that thing carried me in blood moons, they do soo much dmg and with the perks of intelect they are op
10:00 I agree. As someone who loves to use the stun baton, when you properly deck it out, it becomes a weapon of destruction. The stun is nice, but with a repulsor mod, the zombies get sent flying in a ragdoll and knock down other zombies in the way, making you nearly untouchable. Putting points in damage & attack speed skills are also nice, but if you put it into the physician skill, you can get a 20% dismemberment chance at level 4 and a 10% instant kill chance at level 5.
I think stun baton is under rated, it’s extremely powerful with the correct levels and mods
@Rex_gaming-wg9rv Stun Baton is the absolute strongest melee weapon in the game, especially when you pair it with the food that makes the electrocute aoe. If you fall back to a choke point, you'll trivialize combat. When I run stun baton, I usually stop running ranged weapons.
@@daethe I have a pistol and a knife with my baton but I rarely use them. The knockback and electric spread gives me space to heal or move and honestly it just slaps!
@hppottiness yeah, and if you play co op, the stun baton also doesn't have a wide arcing swing so your chance of friendly fire during melee combat is reduced
I like how this isn't about how much damage an item does, but rather how closely the damage matches Woodle's expectation
Everyone knows that primitive bow is better than rocket launcher 😂
This guy doesn't know anything about this game.
The most dangerous weapon in 7DTD is a hard surface under Jawoodle as he falls from height.
id say Jawoodles head is harder than any surface xD :P
He’d break less legs landing on it lol
Ohh it would be cool if other 7D2D creators made tier lists like this too. IZprebuilt, Kage848, Glock9, etc
yes please let this happen
Don't forget GNS
@@theovermynd3930 Oh yeah! One of my absolute favs
As long as they use the same scale, limit S-tier to 2, and evaluate based on the weapon's value within their game-stage... so the lists are reasonably consistent in how they work.
Glock9 has said several times its bascially stunbatton, sledge hammer and machete because with full investment those three weapons can clear entire hoards alone. I think not long ago glock9 did an entire t6 with a stun baton only.
The devs 100% need to add katanas
TFP "don't use tools as weapons"
Also TFP "lets make the sledge hammer (a tool) a weapon class, oh and the final axe tier a BATTLE axe"
Almost every one of the weapons needs something else to be really good, but so does the entire rest of the game even after so many years.
I think that's for balance. They want all items to have a reason to exist.
The shovel is actually a decent weapon also, weirdly enough, I've used just the shovel to deal with the 'supply cache' dig missions, do a sprint attack with it and the heads just seem to fly off.
Woodle you should give the "Get an Axe" mod a shot, it makes the axe a viable melee weapon with its own perk magazines
I could never craft a higher than Lvl 1 Combat Stone Axe for some reason... I mean the iron and steel were fine but it just wouldn't give me better stone. Also I kind of hate that the Modder changed the Steel Axe to just be a recolored version of the Iron.
You know, base game the Axe can be a viable weapon. It just requires you to wear a certain suit of armor and to find all the firefighter books.
@@Chris_Sizemore True, and not very widely known about. But it's still not great (in vanilla).
"this won't be one of those lists where everything is in A and F tier"
>>>puts so many things in A tier it overflows into B tier
Stun Baton is hands down the best weapon in the game no other weapon comes anywhere even close.
I personally love arming and then throwing timed charges onto zombies. It's fun.
Tier 6 steel spear with all the right mods and all the perks is the best melee weapon in the game. Very high damage, very long range, pierce enemies, built in bleed, attack thru walls etc etc
It’s good, but it’s not the best. Knuckles are
@sauronikov9254 no.
@@TryHardCentral spear is ranked 3rd in melee. Followed by stun baton and knuckles
@@sauronikov9254 by someone who hasn't tried all 3. With steel spear you can spam power attacks infinitely.
@@TryHardCentral you can do that with any melee though
I honestly didn't even realize the flashlight was a weapon at all. I never use it...ever.
Dede is clearly God Tier. Holds your stuff for more looting, heals you when your hurt, gives you extra stamina, warns you about enemies and keeps you company.
Dede is the GOAT, lol
So true about the auto shotty sound. It SHOULD sound more like the Coil shotgun in Darkness Falls. In fact a lot of the things that are missed opportunities for the guns are addressed well in most of the overhaul mods like Darkness Falls and Undead Legacy. And the IYAZO gun pack mod.
Josh forgets one very important detail. It's what's make 7 days to 2 die.....HORDE NIGHT! in no world are you going to use crossbow over the sniper in a horde night. A silenced sniper can do just as a good job as the crossbow.
For stealth creepy kills the crossbow is ~more~ silent. at close range, mobs will still be awoken by firing a silenced gun, but not a crossbow
chainsaw as weapon would use fuel as ammo so i think its quite the good idea
100% agree. It "should" be much better.
Also, they should add a flamethrower which uses gas ;)
Actually, axes can become a pretty powerful weapon, if you're wearing a full lumberjack outfit
Lumberjack outfit should affect chainsaws, too. It's criminal that the Lumberjack doesn't make the chainsaw a viable weapon.
The steel axe is pretty good, one power swing usually takes off a zombie head or atleast knocks them on there ass
The tools in this game do not have the option to be used as weapons, it would be an interesting game using only tools.
@@gasYotube No, they can be. just mostly aren't very good. But the axe can "kinda" work with fireman's books & lumberjack outfit.
I'd place the pipe rifle in F, move the pipe pistol to E and magnum to D. I actually think the magnum works as a solid backup weapon for mid-game. You get them down and one shot them in the head. Or if the speed is set slow (not nightmare or sprint), you can just line up headshots pretty easy.
I could see that, yeah.
The pipe rifle and hunting rifle both need to be waaay down the list.
@@kathrynckhunting rifle early game is really good, later on… nope.
@Regal2313 I don't find it to be any better than the blunderbuss/pipe-shotgun/pipe rifle. Slightly higher numbers than the pipe rifle maybe, otherwise, it's the same problem.
@ personally I disagree. Better reload time, overall makes the game feel more like a survival game. Depends on the tier. Early game (from supply drops) it’s pretty good, acts as a sniper, while not being too loud, and get usually one tap early game MAYBE mid game, also not too bad without a scope
@Regal2313 Yeah, with a scope and suppressor, the hunting rifle is very good. It is like my lazy/easy stealth kill weapon aside from my bow.
I think you were really fair with your assessments😄. Nice to see you still have something to throw in the toilet😉
Though looking at your gun tier, the crude bow as an A tier🤔 over the other bows and crossbows? Nah....think there was an oops in assessment
@@AryonaSamoto I can kinda see it, cuz he was consistently judging weapons by their value AT the game stage where you'd make them or loot them.
sledge is a great support weapon and doesn't deserve to be in the toilet. the AOE knock down on every hit is great to start or get some space.
@@kathrynck Yeah, that's true but it looks funny when all the assessments are done🤣
@@sovereignwinter I agree, it's doesn't deserve the toilet but it can't stand on it's own so I would rate it a C or a D level weapon only for it's support.
Yay can't wait for the new series!!
Everybody has their own style and preference. Josh's list is pretty fair and i agree with 95% of it. Silly but as throwables I would put rocks higher. It is my go to tool to distract wandering zombies. But hey, its my opinion.
I usually am the Intellect player in our group and I love stun batons! The satisfaction of sending the zeds fly in a ball of electricity is awesome, lol. Also the fact taking this route will full Int focus at the start helps get us rolling in vehicles faster for cheaper as well as lockpicking bonus. I then will switch focus to adding max parkour and Pistol/SMG. It is by far my favorite way to play. While my friends panic I just zap stun the zeds in place or send flying sometimes off buildings...all while laughing.
i have been looking through the coding this week and there is actually weaponization for Dee Dee there to be activated in the future. so technically she is a weapon.
Interesting fact is that Hunting knife is better in 1.2 because it uses less stamina on power attacks and does more dmg on power attacks than machete. But also kinda makes sense since machete got a bit of an AOE atk going on and hunting knife is a single target. But considering how easy it is to get a hunting knife - S tier easily!
I LOVE the stun baton. Great with repulsor mod, great chance for instant kill and decap. Nothing I like more in a close up situation
Now I want you to take on a tier 5 POI using the Ranger Armor. I did a full playthrough and used two lever actions and two .44 revolvers. With Penetration and AP ammo it was pretty alright.
As a new player to the game this was super helpful. Thank you.
Well in that case allow me to correct his inaccuracies.
S tier: steel club, steel sledge, sniper, pump shotgun.
Machete is absolutely not S tier.
F tier: stun bat, any knife, any pipe.
This is for mid to late game, early game you can make anything work.
@@dandromeda1you really had the balls to "correct inaccuracies" and say the most off the wall insane takes ever
I wish the fire axe and the steel battle axes were viable weapons because it just makes sense. Just look at left 4 dead or zombie movies, and how well axes do.
wear the lumberjack gloves, Q6 adds 15 to the base damage (doubles damage of the iron fire axe)
Chainsaw would not be good at all in combat in real life either. It just doesn't slice through things like a hot knife through butter like some people seem to think.
This is the official Woodle tier list. If you are not a woodle, results will vary. A lot.
Did I just hear Josh use the "IF" argument for the knuckles. Around 15:20.
Something else Josh didn't try with max INT was using one of each turret.
The knuckles in T1 are weak but the T2 and T3 versions improve a lot and become powerful weapons.
@@gasYotube Yeah, I'd give cloth wraps an F, brass a C, and steel an A (and it does assume perking & books).
@@kathrynck I'd give the wraps a lot higher of a rating, probably c, because all that is needed to repair it is leather which is super easy to get. And on warrior difficulty, the damage was very good and I was slaying zombies very quickly.
@@frozenburst64 I don't find the wraps to be any good on warrior difficulty. Brass is ok-ish, steel knucks are quite good. The range on all the fist weapons is poor, so I expect some compensation, the wraps just don't offer it.
Hey Woodle,
could you have a look into Izayo's weapons pack or maybe do a new series with them included?
He did an amazing job.
I will definitively not play vanilla without the mod anymore.
Cheers 😊
Only thing I would swap in the melee would be stun baton and machete but otherwise completely solid and fair. Machete to me is only peak with the level 6 assassins and horde nights it’s not nearly as good.
Ture but he had to grow a long way to rate Stun batons as high as he did. I do agree with you though.
3:03 Nail gun live tested in Happy Gilmore
And Home Alone 2!
I did a fire man challenge once, where you used nothing but axes to kill the zombies. With miner 69er maxxed out, they steel axe is a beast. works similar to the sledge hammer.
I'm playin insane on the 8k map and I use the switchback horde base. And the stun baton is awesome for knocking back zed heads and saving the damage on your base. But in general I agree with your assessment of the weapons/tools. Luv yer chit keep up the great work b safe my luv to u and yours
Steel Spears are amazing, when you get the 2 spear perks up and some good armor you can one shot normal zombies, 2/3 shot ferals and get rads killed fast too if you aim for their heads.
21:59 im gonna guess you got the AA-12 and A-10 Warthog mixed up lol
yeah, pump at S and auto at B just doesn't make sense
Steel Sledge deserves an easy C tier I think. Quite bad in a ceiling-drop in a POI, but very respectable on horde night (with the right blocks).
Pipe Rifle I'd give an F, no question. I ONLY repair them with 1 pipe, and sell them.
Hunting Rifle I'd put in toilet tier. It's a let-down after the pipe rifle, which is already an F tier. If it had a 5-shot magazine at least (and a slightly quicker action) I'd give it maybe a D.
The rest I'd make lots of minor 1-letter adjustments, but generally pretty similar results.
I think TFP are thinking the lever action is a "30-30" ...which IS pretty common. But I agree it'd be nice to have more 44 weapons.
I actually thought (back when pipe weapons were initially teased) that they'd all be 44's or shotguns, cuz that would just make sense if you were actually making something like that. Because the rimmed cases/shells would work, and nobody's going to mill out a chamber shoulder inside a pipe from Home Depot at that level of crafting competency.
They really gotta get rid of that mega-crush silencer on the SMG... it makes the goat look ghetto. And if you actually tried to make a silencer out of a soda can, it'd be aluminum scrap in one shot. An oil filter would make some sense, since it's made to withstand high pressures. But I really miss the sleek black silencer on it.
Nail gun series when?
In future voice based videos, I would suggest either lowering music volume or removing it. I usually listen to these types of videos, and it just gets in the way of listening to the content. Thanks for the video! Really enjoyed the content.
Batons and entire int tree is supposedly just support tree, it wasn't meant to be main-spec, just off-spec. Or when you role-playing with friends, one could main int to do crafting and provide area of denial and cc, medic and high end craft:
Hey Josh have you played the game F.E.A.R.? It has a gun that shoots a tungsten rod and it pins them to the wall.
The SMG w/drum mag and AP rounds is a God level!
would have liked to see a tier list for traps as well
The best way to make one of these videos, is to have multiple S tiers, an early game vs late game, and stealth vs Rambo.
As a friend of mine would say, "Listen - if there's one thing I know, it's everything. And 7 Days weapons are a part of everything, so of course I know that."
Without the Stun Gun I would of been easily mobbed, the stun gun has easily saved my life so many times on surprise attacks.
This is an imposter.. stun baton over the baeball bat? My my my... XD
its a sad day
The bat got shafted in this list.
Stun baton is better tho
Stun Baton is literally the most powerful weapon in the game. It needs nerfed.
the tachy boy is actually quite good if you put a single shot mod on it and use it like you would use the sniper. I'd choose it over the M60 tbh.
Desert Vulture is ELITE!!!!
S Tier, has penetration and insta decap.......
Only thing holding it back is ammo limit.
Agility might be the only tree where the ranged weapon from the third tier is still worth keeping in the loadout when you get the fourth tier, even capped. An smg and dulture pair so well.
20:51. Terry the Titty Tickling Turret.😂👌 Laughed so hard when you first said that during horde night, and it made be about just as happy this time. Also, Deedee shouldn't have been graded at all just cause she's not even a weapon.
I tried a sledgy run one time, and once I finally got my hands on the steel sledge, I realized “dang, this thing is like really bad…” because I’d get smacked by a feral every time if I didn’t charge the power attack from like three hundred feet away because it’s SO SLOW
id definetly change steel axe up one tier. it's an amazing melee weapon with the same reach as the baseball bat, and when you mod it to do more enemy damage with the flame mod, it becomes a different demon.
I think the robotics spec should have a mod at max that they can make, like a "battery pack mod" that can be installed onto all melee weapons to do electric damage on hit. Like the stun baton, but slightly worse. That would be cool
josh you should come up with a type of testing out gameplay where you test out one branch of weapon each week without changing the difficulty, or maybe only changing the difficulty AFTER you've tested all the weapons out. no permadeath or penalties for dying, just coming back to the same stuff to test out the next weapon branch.
Very informative video dude! Thanks!
Not what I was expecting for the day, but it was fun. Not sure I agree with all those choices, but it's now been solidified! No changes allowed on this list 🤣
I agree with your reasoning and assessment of all but the ranking of the pistol. Finding a toilet pistol early in the game is so OP! This should raise the to at least "B" tier. The pistol is relevant until you get the SMG.
Gotta love the fact that a sharp knife is rated similarly to the most complex and technologically advanced melee weapon in the game
The stun baton, the only weapon in the game that a complete muppet can take on anything that is thrown at them, even when actively trying to fail, and still survive. The stun baton, literally has built in cheat codes that make the zombies just stand there ant take it. The stun baton, the only weapon in the game that has its own mod that grants it a second additional cheat code that flings not only the zombie you hit, but all zombies around the zombie you hit backwards and knocks them down. The stun baton, the only melee weapon in the game that makes you absolutely and unquestionably unkillable one on one against any zombie in the game.
That stun baton takes the back seat to the machete and steel knuckles.
I can't wait to see the next series where he clears Tier 6 quests with machete. Funny thing is, for that series he will probably use skull crushers and power attacks. We all know he'll have to bring plenty of band aides.
Stun baton, the only weapon in the game that makes you replace your mouse because you have to hit the zombies for nine years before they actually die.
Stun baton, the only weapon in the game where stunned zombies can still hit you.
Stun baton, the only weapon in the game where the fanboys are worse than a vegan crossfitter not shutting the fuck up about how 'great' their favourite weapon is.
It's his opinion my dude, maybe go outside and touch grass
@@chromecypher Relax my dude, it's just my opinion, and you seem to be reading so much more into it than I wrote into it.
@@craigbporter no, steel knuckles is far better
The thing with the stun baton is, that if you dont have the right mods and the very expensive skill setup, its a gloving baseball bat that sparkles. A machete is alot better without the right build. With the right build the machette is a portable guillotine.
I wish Auto Shottys benefited from the Automatic Weapon Handbooks
So,for 200k subs steel sledge and pipe shotgun only then, can't wait for that one
And he can only use time charges to open chests 😂
The new "use the worst weapon in the game" meme
@@gasYotube I like it!
Great video, making an SMG asap!! Would be awesome to see what all your favorite/ worst mods for vehicles, weapons, armor… are ranked from S to toilet😂❤❤❤
Chainsaw isn't that bad. I did a roleplay playthrough as Ash from Evil Dead, and could only use weapons he used, and all zombies running. Chainsaw got the job done.
I mean on default difficulty sure. It’s okay, even with running zombies, but on insane difficulty then it literally just tickles the zombies and doesn’t stun them like at all. I think he’s ranking these with more favor towards insane/ nightmare so the chainsaw being in F-tier isn’t low enough for it.
@@prolificpoultry4899 fair. I really don't like when higher difficulties just make the enemies have more hit points. It's more fun when they're more creative. Like "only head shots do damage" or something.
Should have finished up with the Traps. There's not a ton of variety but between turrets, spikes, etc. they would have fit well into this format.
The thing is... this list varies depending on difficulty settings. The Stun Baton is WAY more useful on average settings. The levels you play... I just hear Ranier Wolfcastle saying "These goggles, they do NOTHING!"
Josh I got a video idea. Horde on foot with each weapon and a timer to see how long you can last then rate the weapons.
After doing individual play throughs with all the weapons for me the steel club stands above the rest, it’s fast and there is a book for rag doll. Machete and steel knuckles are great but I can’t do late game hoards on foot with them because they don’t knock down like the club does so I can’t manage 10+ zombies without getting swarmed.
Steel sledge is good for me but requires late game stamina, buffs and regen. Heavy armor perk maxed, cardio perk maxed, sledge perk maxed, custom fit mods in all armor pieces, etc
Knuckles are better than club. Lol
That wouldnt be much of a video. Because brawler would win lol
"Demolition only challenge??" Grenades + Rocket Launcher only!
He did a demo's only challenge not all that long ago :)
but it wasn't grenades & frockets only.
@kathrynck not the demo zombies, Demolition skills (explosives and rocket launcher only)
@@TheNuttybrewer Ahh, I see what you did there now. Demo skills vs Demo zombies. That could be cool.
I'd put pipe shotgun in the E or F tier. It's still a shotgun, and as such can cause the stun/slow to save you from a feral in the early game :P snowballs and rocks might be S-tier though, since they work on zombie animals if you decide to go to the wasteland earlier than you should!
Woodle i love the energy, but i feel that the Junk Turret is a little low rated, for the following reasons: You can make an absolute monster of a portable turret out of the Junk turret by modding it. it can take AP rounds, which means unlike standard turrets which actually need to dump buckets of ammo, a junk turret is capable of 2 shotting all but the spongiest of rad zombies (we talkin Cop, Wights, Tourists, and Demos.) They are also capable of pulling aggro which is wierd and rare but they can which means they can also be a decoy. Now im not suggesting either that they are S tier either cause they arent. they have their drawbacks. but these are an absolute must have regardless of build. B tier for sure. Once you get the specific perks for them though they are absolutely legendary and become High A rank.
On a Side note, Drones get their own spot on the list between A and S Labled DeeDee and you messed up your ranking board Ser. You must be a drone to occupy that slot. Cheers Mate.
Woodle have you actually tried using a wrench/ratchet//impact driver as a melee weapon while being invested in Salvage operations? They do a surprising amount of damage.
Now do a zombie tier list!
We all know Arlene will be S-Tier
I am glad you put machete above stun baton.
Magazine fed lever actions have existed for 120 years , not to mention no ody that has tried has actually got a tube fed to go off with pointy bullets. Just in case hornady does make pointy bullets specifically for tube fed lever guns, its the leverevolution line of products.
Logically if steel knuckles are the best tier 3 melee. Then iron knuckles should be the best for tier 2 melee. So another reason to put iron knuckles into A tier
Can't help myself...IF you have the books, when you have the perks.... it's the stun baton all over again ;)
only thing id change about the melee list is baseball bat and iron knuckles. iron knuckles are also better than everything in B tier so it should be in A tier
I woulda 100% swapped the M60 with the SMG... IDK why the SMG was S when it sucks ass compared to the M60 at max game stage, max difficulty. Auto shotty too, shoulda been A,(For Auto), as at max difficulty the extra damage a Tier 6 Auto does over a tier 6 pump IS HUGE. And it will sit down a crown of rad wights.
Otherwise, pretty solid tier lists.
My drone is definitely an A tier because i have the jawoodle drone voice mod. Makes me laugh so much hearing jawoodle yell at me when zombies are near
When making this list did you take into account mods that you can put on things? Excample is a auto shotgun with a drum mag. Also are you also considering each weapon with their corsaspondent perks that buff the weapon?
Also You should do a skill book tier list, from top priority to last.
Should I stop investing points into strength and sledge hammer then? Or is working towards steel sledge really not that bad?
20:00 Calling DD Lydia works perfectly because both are only good to carry your stuff, are moderately good at their job, and are constantly in the way of your aim, except when you actually need to talk to them.
Also, missing opportunity to have the S tier color purple.
Magnum below Pipe Rifle is so disrespectful its just funny, there is no world in which the Shit-Rifle ranks above a gun not named BlunderbussV2.
Sledges & Pipe shotties only series when? :P
oh here we go. hopefully someone makes a real list this time
You are SO loud! lol But I LOVE the energy :) Keep it up!
I was hovering over the dislike if the stun baton was actually going to be in the toilet tier. My only changes would be lowering the stone sledge hammer one tier, robot lowered one tier, raise the m60 to s tier, and raise auto-shotgun up one tier.
Our little Woodle has finally grown up.
Thank you! Wish we ould habe a montage of your bwst and worst moments with each. Snds like a ton of editing work, but would be fun. Maybe a key scene with each A and S...
Gotta say, someone tested the silence capability of the guns a while back. Think it was at 1.0 release or A21. The pipe shotgun for all its crap, was the quietest gun you could put a silencer on. Imagine assassin rolling with a hot bar full of pipe shotguns and never waking a zombie once
love that your ultimate treat is a kiwi fruit on a kiwi dessert lol
We need a mod where if you shoot a Z in the foot/leg with a nailgun they're stuck in place because they're nailed to the floor.
Solid real world lever action info.
Three Agility weapons in S tier and also the three weapons I use for my most used end-game loadout. Impossible for me to disagree with this completely official, absolutely 100% objective tier list :)