Ahh, finally a RUclipsr who doesn't beg for money, via Patreon, Paypal, etc. Subscribed! Btw, I own a 2005 Ford Focus Estate 1.6. Only 100hk but it's really good on the highway.
It's essentially the same lump as in my 308. It's a fine engine if service and well maintained, in my experience. Would not recommend it for journeys less than 5 miles in length, I have the lower output 92bhp, and it's been well behaved. However it is now an inconvenience owning a forbidden fuelled engine. I've been a fan of the Mark 2 Focus for a long time, and with a 2.0 petrol engine that would be quite a nice car to enjoy. Just shame about the tax band, which is still geared towards forbidden fuel vehicles being cheap to tax which is just crazy.
Yes, if it was on the list I read out, then it will be the same one. A car to recommend would be the Mark IV Seat Toledo, which has very economical petrol models not much money, and lots and lots of space. They are actually on the lower end of the tax spectrum too. As you know, we used to have one! Mr Coleman will be doing a video on the infamous DLD-416 engine soon on his channel, which will go into far more depth about the issues, as I barely scratched the surface...
It's OK sir. In the interests of public service and recognition of how many were sold, I think you can mention the elephant in the room. I agree, the MK1 hatch was the best looking Focus but the MK2 was a better looking estate. It's a nicely proportioned and styled machine. In terms of spec I'd definitely find the rear parking sensors more useful than electric rear windows so I approve of Ford's decision.
Yes, I see what you mean, sir! The rear parking sensors were quite useful, as it is quite long. The car does look nice, if a bit more anodyne than the previous generation. I am doing my public service duty in this Mark II Focus with the forbidden fuel engine, aren't I?
Good review Joseph, I’ve still got my 2.0 petrol titanium hatchback now done over 161000 miles just enjoy driving it too much, I’d recommend the 2.0 petrol version even tho it’s a but more to tax and fuel up
Yes sir! I do like a Titanium... The 2.0 with a manual would probably be a nice combination. The 1.6 with 115 bhp is good, but possibly underpowered for some people, and the 1.8 has the issues with the spark plug tubes, so why not? Glad you enjoyed the video!
A good family car but a few problems to look out for. Ford were notoriously mean with electric rear windows on the Focus . Even the Mklll didn't have them on Zetec or ST Line right up to 2018.
That is pretty mean, sir! I think the last car I had without electric rear windows was the 1991 Rover 216. You are right about the problems, unfortunately.
I liked the look of these when they first came out. I was never a fan of the Focus mk1, inside or out. Although it had great handling. So, who developed that engine? My understanding was that the Mini Cooper D had a PSA unit from 2007 to the facelift when they switched to the N47. I’d love to see you test a Volvo S80 with it in, just to see if the car would move. 🙂
The DLD-416 engine was a joint development between PSA and Ford. It was used in the R56/R57 Mini until 2011, as we covered in the Cooper SD video. Mr Coleman has a video series coming up on "Terrible Engines to Avoid" and the DLD-416 will be featuring on it. I don't really wish to drive another car with this engine again, I would much prefer to drive a Mark I Focus!
My wife had a '08 plate 1.6 petrol zetec and it was a very good workhorse with some very nice Ford handling but certainly those grey lower plastics certainly cheapened the feel and the writing on the CD player console quickly flaked off. Still a very handsome design if not ground breaking in comparison to the Mk1.
Oh yes, sir! They are nice to drive. The plastics aren't too bad, but they aren't quite Volkswagen Group quality yet. The post-facelift ones do look better than the pre-facelift in my opinion.
I had a 1.6 diesel 06 plate. Only had 40 thousand miles and blew up one day on the way to work. Threw oil up in the turbo etc. Gutted as not had it long 😪
Oh yes, the good old problems with this particular forbidden fuel engine! I only touched upon the surface with the ones I listed. Mr Coleman had a nine month old example do a diesel runaway on him when he was driving on the M6. He is actually going to do a video on this engine on his channel as it really is so terrible, and it went into so many different cars. Sorry to hear that yours was a bad experience too!
@@lloydvehicleconsulting I gave £3000 when relatively still new. Was a ghia model very posh !! Never had any problems with petrol ford's currently own a focus 1.6 titanium petrol 59 plate no problems in 3 years !!!
@@jonathonbrambell8047 , yes, the Zetec-SE/Sigma/Duratec 1.6 engine is really good, as long as it is looked after with the appropriate cambelt changes, of course. It is Mr Coleman approved too. I really want to drive a proper Focus with a proper engine now we have done our public service announcement about this particular car.
Sir, you have exposed yourself to unnecessary Forbidden Fuel stress in the name of content for us all. You must be applauded for that. My wife had this 2009 Focus 1.6 petrol Zetec briefly while her Kia Picanto had some warranty work completed. She found it quiet, practical and liked the gearchange. She found the quality an equal of the Kia. The first rental provided at this time was a 1.8 Insignia Sports Tourer. It was very worn and ropey and actually broke down after 2 days so was replaced by the Focus. Interestingly, the boot of the Focus was found to be much more practical than the Insignia because my daughter plays a Harp. The Harp required a rear seat to be lowered in the Insignia to accommodate it lengthways. Whereas the Focus could accept the 5 foot Harp across the boot with the rear seats in place. Thank you so much for dancing with the Devil (that we can't speak of) 👿 so bravely.
Yes, sir! When Charlie said he had one of these, I asked Mr Coleman about this particular forbidden fuel engine, and he listed so many faults that I couldn't even remember them. After I drove this, he agreed to make a separate video on his channel about it, as I didn't even cover half the common problems. This was more like a public service announcement than a review. The 1.8 engine in the Insignia would have been the same Family I engine that we had in the Astra Twintop. They do have their issues, as we found our ourselves. Interesting that your daughter's harp went in the Focus boot and not in the Insignia boot, as the space in the Insignia is absolutely huge... We will be back to normal with the next episode of No Budget Reviews!
@@lloydvehicleconsulting the boot in the Vauxhall Insignia Sports Tourer has compartments behind the wheel arches on both sides of the boot which are closed over therefore reducing the width of the boot. So it does have space but is a very awkward shape.
@@seancooke4127 , yes, it sounds like one of those cars where the hatchback may actually be more practical than the estate version in some cases, strangely.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting quite so but a reason to buy the Insignia Sports Tourer is that rear headroom in the estate is much better than the hatchback with its sloping roof line . This was demonstrated by Matt Watson and Rebecca Jackson on Car Buyer Reviews.
@@seancooke4127 , yes, I saw that review. I actually sourced an Insignia A hatchback for a client a couple of years ago and the rear headroom wasn't brilliant.
I moved to Focus automatic hatch in 2009, first with silver Zetec, then 2010 blue titanium and 2011 white titanium. Loved those cars. All petroleum 1.6 but working as a driving instructor high 20s was normal mpg 😕. I leased through AA driving school so got new car every 7 months. After white one the mk3 arrived, only kept my mk3 for 2 months, extremely uncomfortable with my spinal surgery so AA kindly swapped me to first of 8 excellent Fiestas, low 30s mpg in first one, then second onwards was mid 40s!
Yes, I remember when the AA used Fords pretty much exclusively! The 1.6 Sigma engine is very sweet indeed, and paired with a nice five speed manual would be perfect for a driving school. I see what you mean about the fuel economy, though. The Mark III Focus was very different, I did have one as a hire car in Germany for a week, and it was OK, but I would prefer something like a Mazda3, really. My lady wife passed her test in a Mark VII Fiesta, she absolutely loved it!
A friend of mine who is a pro musician ran one of these 110bhp diesels for 5 years and 170k miles. He didn’t have any issues with it. I had a mk1 with the 1.8 115bhp with no dpf. This was also reliable and I ran it to 120k. It’s still alive now with 180k on it according to Gov.UK
Thank you for watching! If you look through the comments from other viewers, you will see that there are plenty of people out there who have experienced a lot of problems with this DLD-416 engine. Those who have not do clearly exist, but they tend to be the exception rather than the rule, sadly.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting I guess we were lucky. However in my experience ( 750k miles in 25 years) the diesel cars I’ve owned ( all common rail ) have lasted longer and are still alive. I have had 2 petrol engines fail ( Ford 1.6 zetec) at 150k and one head gasket ( 1.6 Vauxhall) at 120k. I do agree with you though and have avoided diesels a few times because of being concerned about repair bills etc. My thinking was that the money saved by driving a diesel 30k a year could be wiped out in one repair bill. I have come to the conclusion though that from my experience and seeing friends experiences and comments on RUclips etc that it’s mainly low mileage drivers who suffer problems with diesels, people who have no need for diesel power that seem to have problems with dpf’s injectors etc. High mileage drivers using decent fuel tend to do ok out of diesel. At the moment buying a brand new Ford for my business a diesel would win especially given the reliability record of any of the petrol ecoboosts. Anyway sorry to talk about that horrible fuel. Love your channel and it’s great to see all these old cars being reviewed. My first car was a mk2 fiesta E reg 1.4 ghia. That handled my 30k mile commute with ease 👍🏼
@@lanehogger1532 , the 2014 Chevrolet Cruze with the forbidden fuel engine that I used to own typically needed a lot more servicing than the petrol equivalent (I have owned both), but that could have just been due to the particulate filter. If it thought that the oil life had expired, it would not activate stop/start and not run a regeneration cycle on the DPF. It needed servicing about every 10,000 miles, whereas the 1.6 petrol I had before was 15,000 miles. It would also run the cycle at quite strange times so it would smoke alarmingly in the rear view mirror when travelling through town. We were covering 17-18,000 miles a year in it at that stage. I don't think 150,000 miles is too bad for a petrol engine, of course if one has had a K Series engine, head gasket failure is so common unless someone who knows what they are doing like Mr Coleman has fixed it that 120,000 miles would be doing really well. Mind you, some people report 200,000 miles or more on an unmodified K Series, so they are not all bad. The EcoBoom engine (which I will be talking about in a forthcoming video when we review something which used it) is not great, is it? It's like the good old Prince engine, that will be another forbidden topic after we have done it, as they aren't great. Glad you enjoyed the Mark II Fiesta review, we should have something else of that era coming up on Sensible Secondhand Classics quite soon. You are right about the
@@lanehogger1532 , thank you, I had to do my own research as the Internet Movie Car Database does NOT cover the final two series of C.A.T.S. Eyes. Maggie Forbes certainly liked her Ghias. I would prefer a V6 over the 2.0 Pinto, personally...
I see you have filmed this car in the future. 3 days before my birthday sir. Lol I like the mk2. My brother had both a late mk1 and mk2. I preferred the go-kart feeling of the mk1 over the mk2, but the refinement of the mk2 over the mk1. I remember you saw my brothers mk2 2.0 titanium in person, sir.
Yes sir! I remember the Mark II Titanium. That is a much better engine than this. Shame that they suffer from rust around the rear tailgate. The Mark IIs drive quite nicely, would actually like to drive a Mark I properly to compare the two. Thank you for watching, sir!
Having owned a MK1 2001 1.6 petrol a MK2 2010 2.0TDCi and current owner of a MK3 1.0 2017 ecoboom I have a little knowledge of these cars and all have their upsides and downsides. The MK1 handles very well but is quite a small car with door mirrors which stick out too far for my liking. The MK2 was great and in 7 years and 89 thousand miles of driving all it needed were 2 new rear shocks for the MOT until it was written off in an accident. The MK3 is a nice car but as I have mentioned in previous comments it isn't that economical. Good review Joseph even if it is on the forbidden fuel.
Oh sir, thank you ever so much indeed for watching! Yes, I thought that you might have some knowledge to share about this. I did like the way that this car drove, forbidden fuel engine aside. It drove better than I remember the 1.6 Style did in 2009. I would prefer a higher specification, but then I could always buy a Titanium. I would also stick with the 115 bhp 1.6 engine. The Mark III Ecoboom does seem a bit disappointing on fuel, I must say. Glad you enjoyed it!
Hi sir, I have a question for u. If you said about this engine only bad things why they fit in on so many cars? (Volvo, Citroen, mini, Suzuki,Mazda, Peugeot etc) do you think all that engineers was unusless?
I just found this old review sir, my friend just bought a 2005 1.6 ghia estate for £5000, its amazing how much they are in Russia. Hopefully it will appear on my channel soon :)
Yes, they are very cheap over here in comparison with many other places in the world. I preferred the petrol one I filmed in September (no surprises there).
Could do a lot worse for the money, especially practical too being the estate. A friend of mine had a pre face lift hatchback in Ghia spec with a 1.6 petrol engine. He owned it from new and traded it in 13 years later. It wasn't in any way remarkable but pretty competent in every way. That's probably why he kept it so long. It simply did everything needed of a small family car in comfort.
It's a good car for the money, we just have to stay away from this absolutely terrible forbidden fuel engine! It is so bad that I didn't even cover half the issues they have, and so I have asked Mr Coleman to make a separate video about it on his channel, since it was used in so many different types of car. The 1.6 Zetec-SE/Sigma/Duratec engine is a completely different story. Very reliable if properly looked after with cambelt changes at the specified intervals, nice sound and power delivery, and in something like a Mark II Focus Ghia, an excellent package. I can see why your friend liked it so much, these do handle well too!
@@lloydvehicleconsulting I've driven a Mondeo of that era with a TDCI engine. Good chassis but a bit chattery. In fact I had a MK3 Octavia VRS with the forbidden fuel and that sounded like a tractor. The only other Diesel I've owned was a MK2 Laguna Privilege with the 1.9 DCI engine and other than huge turbo lag it was fantastic. Most of the time it sounded almost like a petrol and pulled like a train. Don't know why Ford and VAG couldn't develope a quieter Diesel back when they were so popular.
@@markonmotoring , the first forbidden fuel car I have had was a 2014 Chevrolet Cruze 1.7 LT VCDi. There is a review of it on the channel, actually. That had a more modern version of the good old Isuzu Circle-L engine which dates back to the pre-Cambrian period and was very noisy, but quite economical. I had to get rid of it when the London Ultra Low Emission Zone was announced in 2017 as it was losing £200 a month in depreciation. The Focus engine was also a bit noisy, not sure if it was the same one which you would have driven in the Mondeo. I have driven an Octavia vRS, but it was a petrol. Glad to hear that you don't have any forbidden fuel engined cars at the moment. The Laguna Mark II is one of those cars which is fast disappearing from the roads due to low values, it seems.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting Yes my Laguna 2 was a facelift Privilege so was very well specked and worked well until the park break failed and was going to cost more than the value of the car. I'd love a V6 petrol. I drive a pre facelift one and it was delightful (but only averaged 25mpg). Only Isuzu diesel I've driven was the Crosswind with I believe a 2.5 N/A diesel. Old Land Rover springs to mind.
@@markonmotoring , I think electronic failures were responsible for an awful lot of those Mark II Lagunas and Méganes being scrapped. Mr Coleman, of course, hates electronic handbrakes, and I am not a massive fan of them either. I would like to try a Vel Satis from the era with the 3.5 V6, though... Don't think I have had the pleasure of driving an Isuzu myself.
Great review. Never realised that this engine had do many issues if I'm honest. Not a bad looking hack as a runaround though. Definitely more handsome than its successor
“Everything we do, everything we do...” 😉 Well Sir, as the proud owner of a 2012 Volvo S40 1.6D (which replaced my Rover 45), this is the first of your videos to make me nervous!! Car has been flawless in my 5 years of ownership so I am hoping I am one of the lucky ones. I do service it at a Volvo main dealer every year. What is Mr Coleman’s channel called? Will subscribe and keep an eye out for the forthcoming video 😕 Really like Focuses (Fords in general). Great video Sir 👊🏼
The Focus had a tough act to follow and looked soooo different to its predecessor - the Mk1 is an interesting looking vehicle, never appealed now does and the latest is awesome, having driven a rather punchy ST I’d have one as fun machine.
You certainly did enjoy that current generation ST, didn't you? Ford were so unsure about how the Focus would be received in 1998 that they kept the Escort in production alongside it for two years just in case. It turned out to be a big success, though, and I would like to try a Mark I if I can get my hands on one. You are right, a car that didn't appeal to me much when new, but I do quite fancy a nice Ghia saloon.
I can't wait for The Rubbish Mechanic's review on this engine. I bet I can relate to everything he says. About 2 years ago now, my brother had to scrap his 108,000-mile 54 plate Peugeot 307 SW SE HDi because of numerous (very) expensive issues (same engine as this Focus, 1560cc 110 bhp. WJ54NVM). Turned out to be totally unfit for the purpose it was designed for. Any acceleration over 3000 rpm's sent it into limp mode with 'anti-pollution fault' showing on the centre display. Turbo oil starvation as you described, this car was on its 3rd turbo when he bridged it. It also ended up with a horrible engine knock which we couldn't get to the bottom of, the cooling fan was running constantly until one day, it seized, it kept jumping out of 2nd gear and there was a slight misfire at around 1200 rpm's which would make the car sometimes stall when pulling away. There was really not much power in this car at all, it was junk. And it would have cost nearly 4 grand to replace the turbo with its pick-up assembly, injectors, DPF and replenish the EOLYS DPF cleaner fluid. And it still wouldn't be right afterwards!
Ah yes, Mr Coleman is not going to be complimentary towards this infamous DLD-416 engine, I am afraid. I know the anti-pollution faults on a Peugeot from the 2000s only too well, sadly, as the 207 I did in 2019 had the same fault showing... You are right, injector faults, oil starvation on the turbo, DPF problems, etc. I only really touched upon all the problems, Mr Coleman has far more experience with these than me.
Oh dear...Mr Lloyd, what were you thinking, a focus with a forbidden fuel engine! Great review though, yes these are slowly getting cheaper, I think I prefer the mk2 to the mk1, mainly due to the exterior of the car. I’ve never had a focus, more for a Mondeo or this cars predecessor the Escort really. I’d heard the 1.6 oil burner was a troublesome engine which is why I’m surprised at its wide use in so many cars, I’d go for the 2.0 petrol engine in a focus.
Oh sir, this is a Public Information Film, not really a review. We have to inform the public about these terrible DLD-416 forbidden fuel engines. You are right that they are a bit troublesome. My friend Andrew owns a 2.0 Focus Titanium, and has already commented on this video about it. You can actually get facelifted ones with under 100,000 miles on the clock for No Budget Reviews money now, so this video will just become more and more relevant.
I had a 2003 ford focus wagon ( collection version) with a 1.6 16v zetec engine, the same what i told about my alfa 147. This car also used around 1 liter oil on 1000 km.! Also the katalysator sensors broke down l. Always had a warnings light on. Replaced the sensors. Still the engine warning light didn’t go off. Later my complete katalysator was broken. You had the gasoline smell all the time. Later my a/c was broken. And allot of other small things. That was the end of ford for me.
Oh dear, sir! You should hear Mr Coleman talking about catalytic converters, Adblue systems, diesel particulate filters, EGR valves, swirl flaps and other emissions equipment. He is not really much of a fan. A failed catalytic converter can be a major problem, sadly.
I had 58 plate 1.6 petrol Hatch In this fetching colour of Vision Blue great car, but also had the 1.6 TDCI in a C-Max and myself and my wife had a scary moment in the C-Max when the forbidden Fuel decided to cut out on the M6 at 70mph!! Turned out it was a issue with the camshaft sensor, ford were very apolgetic but we decided to get rid, once it was fixed. If I was to get a forbidden Fuel focus it would have to be the 1.8 diesel, good old lump. Would have another focus in a heartbeat either a mark 1 or the 2. Mark 3 and 4 do nothing for me.
Oh sir! Yet another person who has experienced the horrors of this forbidden fuel engine... The camshaft sensor is another common fault with them, I just couldn't remember all of them as there were so many. Mr Coleman is going to do a special video about them on his channel. That's right, we will be staying away from the forbidden fuel versions in the future, but we do hope to get more Mark I and Mark II Focuses on No Budget Reviews.
Ah yes, sir! It's more a Public Information Film than a review, though. The 1.6 petrol Focus Mark II does seem to be regarded as quite a good car by a lot of people.
I've driven the MK1 and MK3 but not the second generation. Both were very good. My friend who owned the MK2 ghia briefly had a MK1 3 door 1.6 zetec and he did feel that the MK1 had the edge in terms of agility. Only slightly though. Perhaps the MK2 was gaining a little middle age spread. 😂
Yes, I need to actually drive a Mark I Focus properly to be able to compare the two. Preferably a Mark II Focus with an engine that we can talk about as well! The test drive I had of the Mark I Focus was with a client around 30 mph roads in Battersea for about ten minutes, not really enough time to properly assess it.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting And yet, I do wonder how many of all these DLD 416-powered cars will still be on the road in 5 years time, given all their issues and consequent repair costs.
My parents owned a 2005 C-Max Zetec between 2010 and 2015 with the same engine. Their first and only car powered by the forbidden fuel. I never took to it and I wish they had kept the 1999 Scenic 1.6 16v. I disliked the vinyl door cards. The interior looked drab. I haven't seen so much vinyl on the insides of doors since their old 1976 Granada! At least the Scenic had some fabric on the door cards to break up the sea of plastic. At least this post facelifted Focus has a nicer interior. My dad did have some running issues as referred to in the video and he traded it in after my mum sadly passed away.
Sorry to hear about your mother, sir! That must have been a sad time. The Mark I Scénics were actually quite reliable, the Energy engines are pretty good. I did source a Mark I C-Max for a client last year, but it was a Ghia, which was a bit plusher. The Zetec was probably a bit austere. The interior in this Focus Zetec wasn't too bad. Mr Coleman will be doing a video about the DLD-416 forbidden fuel engine on his channel, as I didn't manage to even scratch the surface with the potential issues.
Wash your mouth out, sir! If you think this video was any more than a Public Information Film about the dangers of this particular 1.6 forbidden fuel engine, then you are much mistaken...
@@RickandHeather , I am afraid not, sir. As long as this terrible DLD-416 forbidden fuel engine still exists in cars, we will continue not to talk about diesels on this channel.
Oh sir, we have to warn people about the dangers of this particular forbidden fuel engine somehow! Normal service will be resumed tomorrow. Thank you very much indeed for watching anyway!
I recognise the radio, and much of the switch gear from my Mk4 Mondeo - not that that type of 'parts bin' issue worries me all that much. I must add that heated front windscreens are truly wonderful things on a cold winter's morning and I miss them terribly - don't Ford hold the copyright and stop other manufacturers from adopting this technology? I couldn't agree more - mobern Ford diesels are very often more trouble than they are worth when they reach a high milage at least.
The copyright on the heated front windscreen expired in around 2012, hence why it appeared in cars like the Vauxhall Corsa E from 2014 onwards, for example. A lot of people absolutely loved Fords for this reason, of course. You are right, nothing wrong with using the same switchgear and radios in multiple cars if they work well. The forbidden fuel engine, though....
I've heared that the HDi version apparently is more reliable. Many parts are different the Ford parts tend to fail. Most of the other cars used the Peugeot engine
@@Mr330d I've heared that on modern Ford diesel engines if there is a problem like the injectors they do a recall where they fit the better ones like they did on the EcoBlue engine
I have a petrol one of these coming up on the channel soon, sir, we will have a look at the sound insulation once the forbidden fuel element has been removed.
Thank you for watching this Public Information Film about the dangers of the DLD-416 forbidden fuel engine, sir! I do hope that you enjoyed it. The next part will be on Mr Coleman's channel. We went there so you don't have to...
@@paulie-Gualtieri. , it's not just the refinement, sir! I didn't actually finish the list of common faults with this particular forbidden fuel engine. There are so many that Mr Coleman is going to do a separate video about them on his channel.
Thank you very much indeed for watching! Yes, like most cars of their era these Mark IIs do rust, even in odd places like around the rear window, I have noticed... Are there lots still around in Russia?
That's strange. My dad's friend has a mk2 focus with the same engine and it has 103,000 miles and hasn't had any problems. Maybe he has just had a good experience
Oh sir, you just have to look at the comments section of this video to see that there are numerous issues with it, sadly. He may have just got away with it. I only really touched upon them, Mr Coleman is going to do a video about them on his channel at some point where he will explain them all in some depth.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting the mk2 focus does suffer from rust also they can rust around the rear arches at the bottom. I saw a mk3 focus with a small rust patch on the boot
@@lloydvehicleconsulting yeah. But you should sit or drive a mk2 Focus 225. I sat in a stock 225 bhp Focus and it was amazing especially when the Turbo kicked in it sounded amazing too even in stock form. Its a nice 2.5 Inline 5 Turbo from Volvo.
@@Cupat1 , as I have said for almost four years and over 1,000 videos, "we don't talk about diesels on this channel"! I therefore, will say no more on the subject.
I almost bought one of those but passed it up for an astra with nicer bodywork. It turned out to be a mistake. Having watched the video and heard what you have to say about that engine the astra may not have been as much of a mistake as I thought.
Oh sir, I didn't even cover half the issues these 1.6 forbidden fuel engines have. There were so many that I couldn't remember half of them. In fact, Mr Coleman is going to make a separate video on his channel about them, as they are in so many different cars and there are just so many problems that we need an expert opinion. The Astra Js and Hs do have their problems (having owned an Astra H ourselves, we did know about them), but at least this engine is not one of them.
It's called the DLD-416 engine. It was a Ford-PSA joint project, and it really isn't very good. Mr Coleman is going to be doing a video on it on the Rubbish Mechanic's channel, I barely scratched the surface with known issues, unfortunately.
Ahh, finally a RUclipsr who doesn't beg for money, via Patreon, Paypal, etc.
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Btw, I own a 2005 Ford Focus Estate 1.6. Only 100hk but it's really good on the highway.
Thank you for watching! I did test a 1.6 facelift Mark II on No Budget reviews back in the autumn and it was really good. Thank you for subscribing!
It's essentially the same lump as in my 308. It's a fine engine if service and well maintained, in my experience. Would not recommend it for journeys less than 5 miles in length, I have the lower output 92bhp, and it's been well behaved. However it is now an inconvenience owning a forbidden fuelled engine. I've been a fan of the Mark 2 Focus for a long time, and with a 2.0 petrol engine that would be quite a nice car to enjoy. Just shame about the tax band, which is still geared towards forbidden fuel vehicles being cheap to tax which is just crazy.
Yes, if it was on the list I read out, then it will be the same one. A car to recommend would be the Mark IV Seat Toledo, which has very economical petrol models not much money, and lots and lots of space. They are actually on the lower end of the tax spectrum too. As you know, we used to have one!
Mr Coleman will be doing a video on the infamous DLD-416 engine soon on his channel, which will go into far more depth about the issues, as I barely scratched the surface...
early PSA 2.0hdi 90bhp engines Bullet proof .... this 1.6 is bullet proof when you think how many are out on the road
It's OK sir. In the interests of public service and recognition of how many were sold, I think you can mention the elephant in the room. I agree, the MK1 hatch was the best looking Focus but the MK2 was a better looking estate. It's a nicely proportioned and styled machine.
In terms of spec I'd definitely find the rear parking sensors more useful than electric rear windows so I approve of Ford's decision.
Yes, I see what you mean, sir! The rear parking sensors were quite useful, as it is quite long. The car does look nice, if a bit more anodyne than the previous generation.
I am doing my public service duty in this Mark II Focus with the forbidden fuel engine, aren't I?
Good review Joseph, I’ve still got my 2.0 petrol titanium hatchback now done over 161000 miles just enjoy driving it too much,
I’d recommend the 2.0 petrol version even tho it’s a but more to tax and fuel up
Yes sir! I do like a Titanium... The 2.0 with a manual would probably be a nice combination. The 1.6 with 115 bhp is good, but possibly underpowered for some people, and the 1.8 has the issues with the spark plug tubes, so why not? Glad you enjoyed the video!
A good family car but a few problems to look out for. Ford were notoriously mean with electric rear windows on the Focus . Even the Mklll didn't have them on Zetec or ST Line right up to 2018.
That is pretty mean, sir! I think the last car I had without electric rear windows was the 1991 Rover 216. You are right about the problems, unfortunately.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting 2010 Mondeo Edge for me, with hand-winders in the back. Let's just not talk about the engine it had (125 bhp 1.8 TDCi).
I liked the look of these when they first came out. I was never a fan of the Focus mk1, inside or out. Although it had great handling.
So, who developed that engine? My understanding was that the Mini Cooper D had a PSA unit from 2007 to the facelift when they switched to the N47.
I’d love to see you test a Volvo S80 with it in, just to see if the car would move. 🙂
The DLD-416 engine was a joint development between PSA and Ford. It was used in the R56/R57 Mini until 2011, as we covered in the Cooper SD video. Mr Coleman has a video series coming up on "Terrible Engines to Avoid" and the DLD-416 will be featuring on it.
I don't really wish to drive another car with this engine again, I would much prefer to drive a Mark I Focus!
My wife had a '08 plate 1.6 petrol zetec and it was a very good workhorse with some very nice Ford handling but certainly those grey lower plastics certainly cheapened the feel and the writing on the CD player console quickly flaked off. Still a very handsome design if not ground breaking in comparison to the Mk1.
Oh yes, sir! They are nice to drive. The plastics aren't too bad, but they aren't quite Volkswagen Group quality yet. The post-facelift ones do look better than the pre-facelift in my opinion.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting What’s your opinion on the 2.0 tdci 138hp engine? Looking at a 2010 mondeo atm.
I almost didn’t continue with this. When I saw the dreaded ⛽️ fuel but persisted another good review sir!
Oh yes, sir! It might be the forbidden fuel, but this is really more a Public Information Film than a review, so it is justified.
I had a 1.6 diesel 06 plate. Only had 40 thousand miles and blew up one day on the way to work. Threw oil up in the turbo etc. Gutted as not had it long 😪
Oh yes, the good old problems with this particular forbidden fuel engine! I only touched upon the surface with the ones I listed. Mr Coleman had a nine month old example do a diesel runaway on him when he was driving on the M6. He is actually going to do a video on this engine on his channel as it really is so terrible, and it went into so many different cars. Sorry to hear that yours was a bad experience too!
@@lloydvehicleconsulting I gave £3000 when relatively still new. Was a ghia model very posh !! Never had any problems with petrol ford's currently own a focus 1.6 titanium petrol 59 plate no problems in 3 years !!!
@@jonathonbrambell8047 , yes, the Zetec-SE/Sigma/Duratec 1.6 engine is really good, as long as it is looked after with the appropriate cambelt changes, of course. It is Mr Coleman approved too. I really want to drive a proper Focus with a proper engine now we have done our public service announcement about this particular car.
Sir, you have exposed yourself to unnecessary Forbidden Fuel stress in the name of content for us all. You must be applauded for that. My wife had this 2009 Focus 1.6 petrol Zetec briefly while her Kia Picanto had some warranty work completed. She found it quiet, practical and liked the gearchange. She found the quality an equal of the Kia. The first rental provided at this time was a 1.8 Insignia Sports Tourer. It was very worn and ropey and actually broke down after 2 days so was replaced by the Focus. Interestingly, the boot of the Focus was found to be much more practical than the Insignia because my daughter plays a Harp. The Harp required a rear seat to be lowered in the Insignia to accommodate it lengthways. Whereas the Focus could accept the 5 foot Harp across the boot with the rear seats in place.
Thank you so much for dancing with the Devil (that we can't speak of) 👿 so bravely.
Yes, sir! When Charlie said he had one of these, I asked Mr Coleman about this particular forbidden fuel engine, and he listed so many faults that I couldn't even remember them. After I drove this, he agreed to make a separate video on his channel about it, as I didn't even cover half the common problems. This was more like a public service announcement than a review.
The 1.8 engine in the Insignia would have been the same Family I engine that we had in the Astra Twintop. They do have their issues, as we found our ourselves. Interesting that your daughter's harp went in the Focus boot and not in the Insignia boot, as the space in the Insignia is absolutely huge... We will be back to normal with the next episode of No Budget Reviews!
@@lloydvehicleconsulting the boot in the Vauxhall Insignia Sports Tourer has compartments behind the wheel arches on both sides of the boot which are closed over therefore reducing the width of the boot. So it does have space but is a very awkward shape.
@@seancooke4127 , yes, it sounds like one of those cars where the hatchback may actually be more practical than the estate version in some cases, strangely.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting quite so but a reason to buy the Insignia Sports Tourer is that rear headroom in the estate is much better than the hatchback with its sloping roof line . This was demonstrated by Matt Watson and Rebecca Jackson on Car Buyer Reviews.
@@seancooke4127 , yes, I saw that review. I actually sourced an Insignia A hatchback for a client a couple of years ago and the rear headroom wasn't brilliant.
I moved to Focus automatic hatch in 2009, first with silver Zetec, then 2010 blue titanium and 2011 white titanium. Loved those cars.
All petroleum 1.6 but working as a driving instructor high 20s was normal mpg 😕.
I leased through AA driving school so got new car every 7 months.
After white one the mk3 arrived, only kept my mk3 for 2 months, extremely uncomfortable with my spinal surgery so AA kindly swapped me to first of 8 excellent Fiestas, low 30s mpg in first one, then second onwards was mid 40s!
Yes, I remember when the AA used Fords pretty much exclusively! The 1.6 Sigma engine is very sweet indeed, and paired with a nice five speed manual would be perfect for a driving school. I see what you mean about the fuel economy, though.
The Mark III Focus was very different, I did have one as a hire car in Germany for a week, and it was OK, but I would prefer something like a Mazda3, really. My lady wife passed her test in a Mark VII Fiesta, she absolutely loved it!
A friend of mine who is a pro musician ran one of these 110bhp diesels for 5 years and 170k miles. He didn’t have any issues with it. I had a mk1 with the 1.8 115bhp with no dpf. This was also reliable and I ran it to 120k. It’s still alive now with 180k on it according to Gov.UK
Thank you for watching! If you look through the comments from other viewers, you will see that there are plenty of people out there who have experienced a lot of problems with this DLD-416 engine. Those who have not do clearly exist, but they tend to be the exception rather than the rule, sadly.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting I guess we were lucky. However in my experience ( 750k miles in 25 years) the diesel cars I’ve owned ( all common rail ) have lasted longer and are still alive. I have had 2 petrol engines fail ( Ford 1.6 zetec) at 150k and one head gasket ( 1.6 Vauxhall) at 120k. I do agree with you though and have avoided diesels a few times because of being concerned about repair bills etc. My thinking was that the money saved by driving a diesel 30k a year could be wiped out in one repair bill. I have come to the conclusion though that from my experience and seeing friends experiences and comments on RUclips etc that it’s mainly low mileage drivers who suffer problems with diesels, people who have no need for diesel power that seem to have problems with dpf’s injectors etc. High mileage drivers using decent fuel tend to do ok out of diesel. At the moment buying a brand new Ford for my business a diesel would win especially given the reliability record of any of the petrol ecoboosts.
Anyway sorry to talk about that horrible fuel. Love your channel and it’s great to see all these old cars being reviewed. My first car was a mk2 fiesta E reg 1.4 ghia. That handled my 30k mile commute with ease 👍🏼
@@lanehogger1532 , the 2014 Chevrolet Cruze with the forbidden fuel engine that I used to own typically needed a lot more servicing than the petrol equivalent (I have owned both), but that could have just been due to the particulate filter. If it thought that the oil life had expired, it would not activate stop/start and not run a regeneration cycle on the DPF. It needed servicing about every 10,000 miles, whereas the 1.6 petrol I had before was 15,000 miles. It would also run the cycle at quite strange times so it would smoke alarmingly in the rear view mirror when travelling through town. We were covering 17-18,000 miles a year in it at that stage.
I don't think 150,000 miles is too bad for a petrol engine, of course if one has had a K Series engine, head gasket failure is so common unless someone who knows what they are doing like Mr Coleman has fixed it that 120,000 miles would be doing really well. Mind you, some people report 200,000 miles or more on an unmodified K Series, so they are not all bad.
The EcoBoom engine (which I will be talking about in a forthcoming video when we review something which used it) is not great, is it? It's like the good old Prince engine, that will be another forbidden topic after we have done it, as they aren't great. Glad you enjoyed the Mark II Fiesta review, we should have something else of that era coming up on Sensible Secondhand Classics quite soon.
You are right about the
@@lloydvehicleconsulting thanks for you replies. Just seen the CATSEYES video !!! 👍🏼ps Maggie Forbes drove autos. The sierras were 2.0i ghia’s 👍🏼
@@lanehogger1532 , thank you, I had to do my own research as the Internet Movie Car Database does NOT cover the final two series of C.A.T.S. Eyes. Maggie Forbes certainly liked her Ghias. I would prefer a V6 over the 2.0 Pinto, personally...
I see you have filmed this car in the future. 3 days before my birthday sir. Lol I like the mk2. My brother had both a late mk1 and mk2.
I preferred the go-kart feeling of the mk1 over the mk2, but the refinement of the mk2 over the mk1. I remember you saw my brothers mk2 2.0 titanium in person, sir.
Yes sir! I remember the Mark II Titanium. That is a much better engine than this. Shame that they suffer from rust around the rear tailgate. The Mark IIs drive quite nicely, would actually like to drive a Mark I properly to compare the two. Thank you for watching, sir!
@@lloydvehicleconsulting Here, 8 months after, did you ever try an mk1?
@@Wings_of_foam , yes, if you look on the No Budget Reviews playlist, you will see a review of a late Mark I 1.6 Automatic which we did in the autumn.
Having owned a MK1 2001 1.6 petrol a MK2 2010 2.0TDCi and current owner of a MK3 1.0 2017 ecoboom I have a little knowledge of these cars and all have their upsides and downsides. The MK1 handles very well but is quite a small car with door mirrors which stick out too far for my liking. The MK2 was great and in 7 years and 89 thousand miles of driving all it needed were 2 new rear shocks for the MOT until it was written off in an accident. The MK3 is a nice car but as I have mentioned in previous comments it isn't that economical. Good review Joseph even if it is on the forbidden fuel.
Oh sir, thank you ever so much indeed for watching! Yes, I thought that you might have some knowledge to share about this. I did like the way that this car drove, forbidden fuel engine aside. It drove better than I remember the 1.6 Style did in 2009. I would prefer a higher specification, but then I could always buy a Titanium. I would also stick with the 115 bhp 1.6 engine. The Mark III Ecoboom does seem a bit disappointing on fuel, I must say. Glad you enjoyed it!
Hi sir, I have a question for u. If you said about this engine only bad things why they fit in on so many cars? (Volvo, Citroen, mini, Suzuki,Mazda, Peugeot etc) do you think all that engineers was unusless?
I have absolutely no idea. All I can tell you is that they have a lot of well documented problems, including in this car.
I just found this old review sir, my friend just bought a 2005 1.6 ghia estate for £5000, its amazing how much they are in Russia. Hopefully it will appear on my channel soon :)
Yes, they are very cheap over here in comparison with many other places in the world. I preferred the petrol one I filmed in September (no surprises there).
Could do a lot worse for the money, especially practical too being the estate.
A friend of mine had a pre face lift hatchback in Ghia spec with a 1.6 petrol engine. He owned it from new and traded it in 13 years later. It wasn't in any way remarkable but pretty competent in every way. That's probably why he kept it so long. It simply did everything needed of a small family car in comfort.
It's a good car for the money, we just have to stay away from this absolutely terrible forbidden fuel engine! It is so bad that I didn't even cover half the issues they have, and so I have asked Mr Coleman to make a separate video about it on his channel, since it was used in so many different types of car.
The 1.6 Zetec-SE/Sigma/Duratec engine is a completely different story. Very reliable if properly looked after with cambelt changes at the specified intervals, nice sound and power delivery, and in something like a Mark II Focus Ghia, an excellent package. I can see why your friend liked it so much, these do handle well too!
@@lloydvehicleconsulting I've driven a Mondeo of that era with a TDCI engine. Good chassis but a bit chattery. In fact I had a MK3 Octavia VRS with the forbidden fuel and that sounded like a tractor. The only other Diesel I've owned was a MK2 Laguna Privilege with the 1.9 DCI engine and other than huge turbo lag it was fantastic. Most of the time it sounded almost like a petrol and pulled like a train. Don't know why Ford and VAG couldn't develope a quieter Diesel back when they were so popular.
@@markonmotoring , the first forbidden fuel car I have had was a 2014 Chevrolet Cruze 1.7 LT VCDi. There is a review of it on the channel, actually. That had a more modern version of the good old Isuzu Circle-L engine which dates back to the pre-Cambrian period and was very noisy, but quite economical. I had to get rid of it when the London Ultra Low Emission Zone was announced in 2017 as it was losing £200 a month in depreciation.
The Focus engine was also a bit noisy, not sure if it was the same one which you would have driven in the Mondeo. I have driven an Octavia vRS, but it was a petrol. Glad to hear that you don't have any forbidden fuel engined cars at the moment. The Laguna Mark II is one of those cars which is fast disappearing from the roads due to low values, it seems.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting Yes my Laguna 2 was a facelift Privilege so was very well specked and worked well until the park break failed and was going to cost more than the value of the car. I'd love a V6 petrol. I drive a pre facelift one and it was delightful (but only averaged 25mpg).
Only Isuzu diesel I've driven was the Crosswind with I believe a 2.5 N/A diesel. Old Land Rover springs to mind.
@@markonmotoring , I think electronic failures were responsible for an awful lot of those Mark II Lagunas and Méganes being scrapped. Mr Coleman, of course, hates electronic handbrakes, and I am not a massive fan of them either. I would like to try a Vel Satis from the era with the 3.5 V6, though...
Don't think I have had the pleasure of driving an Isuzu myself.
Great review. Never realised that this engine had do many issues if I'm honest. Not a bad looking hack as a runaround though. Definitely more handsome than its successor
Yes, so many issues with this engine that Mr Coleman will be making a separate video about it on his channel. I only got through about half of them...
“Everything we do, everything we do...” 😉
Well Sir, as the proud owner of a 2012 Volvo S40 1.6D (which replaced my Rover 45), this is the first of your videos to make me nervous!! Car has been flawless in my 5 years of ownership so I am hoping I am one of the lucky ones. I do service it at a Volvo main dealer every year.
What is Mr Coleman’s channel called? Will subscribe and keep an eye out for the forthcoming video 😕
Really like Focuses (Fords in general). Great video Sir 👊🏼
I am afraid the good old algorithm has once again buried your comment for over two years...
The Focus had a tough act to follow and looked soooo different to its predecessor - the Mk1 is an interesting looking vehicle, never appealed now does and the latest is awesome, having driven a rather punchy ST I’d have one as fun machine.
You certainly did enjoy that current generation ST, didn't you? Ford were so unsure about how the Focus would be received in 1998 that they kept the Escort in production alongside it for two years just in case. It turned out to be a big success, though, and I would like to try a Mark I if I can get my hands on one. You are right, a car that didn't appeal to me much when new, but I do quite fancy a nice Ghia saloon.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting it’s interesting how certain things suddenly appeal, thank you Joseph
@@PlanetautoUK , it certainly is, isn't it?
I can't wait for The Rubbish Mechanic's review on this engine. I bet I can relate to everything he says. About 2 years ago now, my brother had to scrap his 108,000-mile 54 plate Peugeot 307 SW SE HDi because of numerous (very) expensive issues (same engine as this Focus, 1560cc 110 bhp. WJ54NVM). Turned out to be totally unfit for the purpose it was designed for. Any acceleration over 3000 rpm's sent it into limp mode with 'anti-pollution fault' showing on the centre display. Turbo oil starvation as you described, this car was on its 3rd turbo when he bridged it. It also ended up with a horrible engine knock which we couldn't get to the bottom of, the cooling fan was running constantly until one day, it seized, it kept jumping out of 2nd gear and there was a slight misfire at around 1200 rpm's which would make the car sometimes stall when pulling away. There was really not much power in this car at all, it was junk. And it would have cost nearly 4 grand to replace the turbo with its pick-up assembly, injectors, DPF and replenish the EOLYS DPF cleaner fluid. And it still wouldn't be right afterwards!
Ah yes, Mr Coleman is not going to be complimentary towards this infamous DLD-416 engine, I am afraid. I know the anti-pollution faults on a Peugeot from the 2000s only too well, sadly, as the 207 I did in 2019 had the same fault showing... You are right, injector faults, oil starvation on the turbo, DPF problems, etc. I only really touched upon all the problems, Mr Coleman has far more experience with these than me.
Funnily enough in Ireland we retained the Ghia trim level on the facelift focus but only for 2008-2009
That is strange, sir! Would that have something to do with the Focus saloon, by any chance?
@@lloydvehicleconsulting it would be and the hatch aswell I’ve seen recently a 10 or 11 mk2 focus in Ghia spec
@@ianoconnell8678 , I know that they love their saloons in Ireland, don't they?
Oh dear...Mr Lloyd, what were you thinking, a focus with a forbidden fuel engine!
Great review though, yes these are slowly getting cheaper, I think I prefer the mk2 to the mk1, mainly due to the exterior of the car.
I’ve never had a focus, more for a Mondeo or this cars predecessor the Escort really.
I’d heard the 1.6 oil burner was a troublesome engine which is why I’m surprised at its wide use in so many cars, I’d go for the 2.0 petrol engine in a focus.
Oh sir, this is a Public Information Film, not really a review. We have to inform the public about these terrible DLD-416 forbidden fuel engines. You are right that they are a bit troublesome. My friend Andrew owns a 2.0 Focus Titanium, and has already commented on this video about it. You can actually get facelifted ones with under 100,000 miles on the clock for No Budget Reviews money now, so this video will just become more and more relevant.
I had a 2003 ford focus wagon ( collection version) with a 1.6 16v zetec engine, the same what i told about my alfa 147. This car also used around 1 liter oil on 1000 km.! Also the katalysator sensors broke down l. Always had a warnings light on. Replaced the sensors. Still the engine warning light didn’t go off. Later my complete katalysator was broken. You had the gasoline smell all the time. Later my a/c was broken. And allot of other small things. That was the end of ford for me.
Oh dear, sir! You should hear Mr Coleman talking about catalytic converters, Adblue systems, diesel particulate filters, EGR valves, swirl flaps and other emissions equipment. He is not really much of a fan. A failed catalytic converter can be a major problem, sadly.
I had 58 plate 1.6 petrol Hatch In this fetching colour of Vision Blue great car, but also had the 1.6 TDCI in a C-Max and myself and my wife had a scary moment in the C-Max when the forbidden Fuel decided to cut out on the M6 at 70mph!! Turned out it was a issue with the camshaft sensor, ford were very apolgetic but we decided to get rid, once it was fixed.
If I was to get a forbidden Fuel focus it would have to be the 1.8 diesel, good old lump.
Would have another focus in a heartbeat either a mark 1 or the 2. Mark 3 and 4 do nothing for me.
Oh sir! Yet another person who has experienced the horrors of this forbidden fuel engine... The camshaft sensor is another common fault with them, I just couldn't remember all of them as there were so many. Mr Coleman is going to do a special video about them on his channel.
That's right, we will be staying away from the forbidden fuel versions in the future, but we do hope to get more Mark I and Mark II Focuses on No Budget Reviews.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting looking forward to seeing the video, let's say it was a interesting drive back from Lancaster to Edinburgh
@@scottishcarenthusiastsandtrain , oh dear, sir! Yet another casualty of the terrible DLD-416 engine, sadly.
First an electric SUV Mustang and now you reviewing a diesel??? I had a Mk2 1.6 petrol for a few years. Never once let me down.
Ah yes, sir! It's more a Public Information Film than a review, though. The 1.6 petrol Focus Mark II does seem to be regarded as quite a good car by a lot of people.
I've driven the MK1 and MK3 but not the second generation. Both were very good. My friend who owned the MK2 ghia briefly had a MK1 3 door 1.6 zetec and he did feel that the MK1 had the edge in terms of agility. Only slightly though. Perhaps the MK2 was gaining a little middle age spread. 😂
Yes, I need to actually drive a Mark I Focus properly to be able to compare the two. Preferably a Mark II Focus with an engine that we can talk about as well! The test drive I had of the Mark I Focus was with a client around 30 mph roads in Battersea for about ten minutes, not really enough time to properly assess it.
Another very interesting review Sir. I had no idea so many vehicles shared this engine!
It's ridiculous, isn't it? Huge numbers of cars shared it and the number of problems was crazy. I didn't even touch upon half of them.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting And yet, I do wonder how many of all these DLD 416-powered cars will still be on the road in 5 years time, given all their issues and consequent repair costs.
@@owensteele1274 , not many once Mr Coleman's video goes live, I wouldn't imagine!
My parents owned a 2005 C-Max Zetec between 2010 and 2015 with the same engine. Their first and only car powered by the forbidden fuel. I never took to it and I wish they had kept the 1999 Scenic 1.6 16v. I disliked the vinyl door cards. The interior looked drab. I haven't seen so much vinyl on the insides of doors since their old 1976 Granada! At least the Scenic had some fabric on the door cards to break up the sea of plastic. At least this post facelifted Focus has a nicer interior.
My dad did have some running issues as referred to in the video and he traded it in after my mum sadly passed away.
Sorry to hear about your mother, sir! That must have been a sad time. The Mark I Scénics were actually quite reliable, the Energy engines are pretty good.
I did source a Mark I C-Max for a client last year, but it was a Ghia, which was a bit plusher. The Zetec was probably a bit austere. The interior in this Focus Zetec wasn't too bad. Mr Coleman will be doing a video about the DLD-416 forbidden fuel engine on his channel, as I didn't manage to even scratch the surface with the potential issues.
Finally a DIESEL 😂 I love FORBIDDEN FUEL keep burning them dinosaurs 👍
Wash your mouth out, sir! If you think this video was any more than a Public Information Film about the dangers of this particular 1.6 forbidden fuel engine, then you are much mistaken...
@@lloydvehicleconsulting 😂🤣😂🤣 you’re warming to the gas oil....
@@RickandHeather , I am afraid not, sir. As long as this terrible DLD-416 forbidden fuel engine still exists in cars, we will continue not to talk about diesels on this channel.
Must admit my friend, was surprised when I saw it was a diesel!! Great review though - keep up the good work!
Oh sir, we have to warn people about the dangers of this particular forbidden fuel engine somehow! Normal service will be resumed tomorrow. Thank you very much indeed for watching anyway!
I recognise the radio, and much of the switch gear from my Mk4 Mondeo - not that that type of 'parts bin' issue worries me all that much. I must add that heated front windscreens are truly wonderful things on a cold winter's morning and I miss them terribly - don't Ford hold the copyright and stop other manufacturers from adopting this technology? I couldn't agree more - mobern Ford diesels are very often more trouble than they are worth when they reach a high milage at least.
The copyright on the heated front windscreen expired in around 2012, hence why it appeared in cars like the Vauxhall Corsa E from 2014 onwards, for example. A lot of people absolutely loved Fords for this reason, of course.
You are right, nothing wrong with using the same switchgear and radios in multiple cars if they work well. The forbidden fuel engine, though....
I've heared that the HDi version apparently is more reliable. Many parts are different the Ford parts tend to fail. Most of the other cars used the Peugeot engine
There is a viewer comment about a 2004 Peugeot 307 HDi with this engine in the comments section. It sounds like it was pretty bad too.
@@Mr330d I've heared that on modern Ford diesel engines if there is a problem like the injectors they do a recall where they fit the better ones like they did on the EcoBlue engine
@@Mr330d , it's not a good engine at all.
@@Mr330d , that's really interesting, thank you!
The worst thing about these focus is the sound insulation, the road noise is terrible on them
I have a petrol one of these coming up on the channel soon, sir, we will have a look at the sound insulation once the forbidden fuel element has been removed.
"BUT WE DONT TALK ABOUT DIESELS"!.....................................that'll be £12:50 please Mr Lloyd (doubling to £25 if not paid within 24hrs)!!
Thank you for watching this Public Information Film about the dangers of the DLD-416 forbidden fuel engine, sir! I do hope that you enjoyed it. The next part will be on Mr Coleman's channel. We went there so you don't have to...
All the more interesting that it's powered by the forbidden fuel
It is, sir, and it's all the worse for it with this particular engine.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting
Very rough and agricultural compared to VAG engines, Ford always did lack the refinement in this area.
@@paulie-Gualtieri. , it's not just the refinement, sir! I didn't actually finish the list of common faults with this particular forbidden fuel engine. There are so many that Mr Coleman is going to do a separate video about them on his channel.
In Russia the Focus this old could be in far worse condition, especially popular are rust issues. Of course no diesel engines are available.
Thank you very much indeed for watching! Yes, like most cars of their era these Mark IIs do rust, even in odd places like around the rear window, I have noticed... Are there lots still around in Russia?
@@lloydvehicleconsulting a lot of 'em because of the local assembly (Focus mk1, mk2, mk3 as far as I remember) and cheapness.
Yes, they made a lot of them! They certainly have low secondhand values here, probably the same over there too.
That's strange. My dad's friend has a mk2 focus with the same engine and it has 103,000 miles and hasn't had any problems. Maybe he has just had a good experience
Oh sir, you just have to look at the comments section of this video to see that there are numerous issues with it, sadly. He may have just got away with it. I only really touched upon them, Mr Coleman is going to do a video about them on his channel at some point where he will explain them all in some depth.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting the mk2 focus does suffer from rust also they can rust around the rear arches at the bottom. I saw a mk3 focus with a small rust patch on the boot
@@aaronautoreviews3263 , they also rust around the rear window like the Mark III you have mentioned.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting yeah. But you should sit or drive a mk2 Focus 225. I sat in a stock 225 bhp Focus and it was amazing especially when the Turbo kicked in it sounded amazing too even in stock form. Its a nice 2.5 Inline 5 Turbo from Volvo.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting is the 1.8 TDCi and 2.0 TDCi engines better?
Why do you call diesel forbidden fuel
Many, many reasons, the Ultra Low Emission Zone is just one of them.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting Not much of an answer at all
@@Cupat1 , as I have said for almost four years and over 1,000 videos, "we don't talk about diesels on this channel"! I therefore, will say no more on the subject.
I simply asked why you call it that and all you say is " many reasons" hence I said that. You can bugger off and shove your crap 😉🙄
I almost bought one of those but passed it up for an astra with nicer bodywork. It turned out to be a mistake.
Having watched the video and heard what you have to say about that engine the astra may not have been as much of a mistake as I thought.
Oh sir, I didn't even cover half the issues these 1.6 forbidden fuel engines have. There were so many that I couldn't remember half of them. In fact, Mr Coleman is going to make a separate video on his channel about them, as they are in so many different cars and there are just so many problems that we need an expert opinion.
The Astra Js and Hs do have their problems (having owned an Astra H ourselves, we did know about them), but at least this engine is not one of them.
A diesel!?
Don't tell anyone, will you?
@@lloydvehicleconsulting secrets safe with me! 😉
@@4wheelsgood , thank you, sir!
@@lloydvehicleconsulting We don't talk about diesel(s) on this channel. Certainly it's ok to talk about one!
Joseph!!!!!! What the hell are you doing man-get that thing off this channel immediately
It's a public service announcement, sir, we are adding to the armoury of reasons why we can't talk about diesels on this channel!
Isn't it a Peugeot engine? Normally Peugeot diesel engines are quite reliable
It's called the DLD-416 engine. It was a Ford-PSA joint project, and it really isn't very good. Mr Coleman is going to be doing a video on it on the Rubbish Mechanic's channel, I barely scratched the surface with known issues, unfortunately.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting strange I thought that PSA diesel engines are normally quite reliable
This one, sir, is not. Viewers have already backed this up in the comments section.
@@lloydvehicleconsulting I've searched it and the block is Peugeot but the rest of the engine is either Ford or Peugeot.
@@terrificspokesman7416 , yes, a joint development, really.
Do not recommend these engines. Not reliable at all
Yes, I spent a while in the video going over just some of the problems! Definitely not recommended.