Why The Car I Fear The Most is.... A Mk2 Ford Focus 1.6 Zetec

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  • @JayEmmOnCars
    @JayEmmOnCars  9 месяцев назад +7

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    • @toyota420xp
      @toyota420xp 9 месяцев назад

      Focus rust very fast

    • @Beer_Dad1975
      @Beer_Dad1975 9 месяцев назад

      Nice to see Ranger drivers are the same on the other side of the planet as they are here. Oh it was a Nissan Navara - same type of person always buys a black ute anyway.

    • @xsbgtr
      @xsbgtr 9 месяцев назад

      The MK1 is the most popular in Mexican off roads (there´s no such thing as a road in Mexico)✌

  • @richardharrold9736
    @richardharrold9736 9 месяцев назад +228

    Yet another of Richard Parry-Jones' great efforts to democratise great driving dynamics. May he rest in peace.

    • @vladx2
      @vladx2 9 месяцев назад +7

      Hello, fellow reader of The Intercooler

    • @Juiceian100
      @Juiceian100 9 месяцев назад +14

      I met Richard at an awards event some years ago - he was presenting the awards. He had brought along a Puma which Ford were just launching (I’m that old). A lovely man, a real car fan and a proud Welshman.

    • @richardharrold9736
      @richardharrold9736 9 месяцев назад

      @@vladx2 I'm not.

    • @richardharrold9736
      @richardharrold9736 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@Juiceian100 go and have a listen to his appearance on the Gareth Jones On Speed podcast. It's a good hour long but worth every second.

    • @Beer_Dad1975
      @Beer_Dad1975 9 месяцев назад +7

      I've only ever driven one of these once - being known as "mechanically minded", a friend of mine asked me to check one out that he was buying for his daughters first car. I was genuinely impressed with how it drove as I really wasn't expecting much - and yes, he ended up buying it for her. I'm a fair bit older than Jay, & I learned in a 5th gen Escort - of which my overriding memory is it was a utter shitheap even though it was brand new at the time, so that's probably why I didn't expect much from the Focus.

  • @lloydbrock2711
    @lloydbrock2711 9 месяцев назад +71

    My wife had a 1.6 Zetec when she ran her own driving school. Bought it at 10k miles, sold it at 110k miles. Literally nothing went wrong with it over that period. Great car.

    • @TheRealCatof
      @TheRealCatof 9 месяцев назад +1

      That's good, but 100k miles is not a lot.

    • @kevincraven4038
      @kevincraven4038 9 месяцев назад +25

      @@TheRealCatof it is when it's a driving school car! 😂

    • @highmm2696
      @highmm2696 8 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@TheRealCatofDepends on what those miles are! Motorway/A roads? Nothing. Start stop traffic in rush hour, thats alot!

    • @stevenfarrall3942
      @stevenfarrall3942 8 месяцев назад +3

      Fords can do that if looked after. My 2.0 1996 Mondeo Estate did about 146,000 miles and the only failure was a lambda sensor. It only stopped when some idiot crashed into it and it was 'beyond economic repair'.

    • @ShaunCollins-qj2sf
      @ShaunCollins-qj2sf 7 месяцев назад +2

      Most cars do that mileage trouble free though

  • @418_im_a_teapot
    @418_im_a_teapot 8 месяцев назад +55

    In the three and a half months between me getting a drivers license and me moving out of the country, my father just gave me his old Focus. The very same mk2 in black and 120-ish horsepower with manual gearbox. So basically the first car I got to drive alone and on my own. Such a nice vehicle for a beginner, it's not too heavy on features but also a totally well equipped one. You really learn to drive a car in one. Fast forward ten years, I was getting a drivers license in my new country of residence: I needed a refresher course and taking written and road tests. The learner car? A bloated Audi Q3. This vehicle made me realise why it seemed to me that many more people were afraid of driving now than before: you have no idea what the car is doing, where it's going and how much space you have around you. Not so in a Focus, you feel and see everything you need. The car doesn't beep at you for every single little thing, it just lets you be the actual driver. Maybe I'm forgetting the bad things, but I remember it as an okay car.

    • @stevenfarrall3942
      @stevenfarrall3942 8 месяцев назад +6

      Everyone needs to drive something focus-like when they are learning. Having said that my daughters learned to drive in a 1996 Defender 110. You CAN see every corner in that and now they can drive anything....

    • @fools_opinions
      @fools_opinions 5 месяцев назад +1

      And yet Ford now think we don't want a focus or a fiesta so the range starts at the pointlessly fat puma.

    • @arnehurnik
      @arnehurnik 5 месяцев назад

      It's because they can add a free 3000€ to the price tag on that.
      What we would have needed though was a new Fiesta with significantly more rear headroom.

    • @418_im_a_teapot
      @418_im_a_teapot 5 месяцев назад

      @@arnehurnik like the B-Max. Tons of headroom and is built on the chassis of the Fiesta. Drives like a Fiesta, too.

    • @arnehurnik
      @arnehurnik 5 месяцев назад

      Yes. Although just using that better roof shape would do half of the work already.

  • @snbala
    @snbala 9 месяцев назад +133

    Hi James, thanks for the review of my MK2, as people can see I am a big fan of the Focus with the first MK1 and now MK2 as I also learned to drive in both the MK1 and MK2 and I do encourage people to give the Focus a try if they are in the market for a good all round hatchback that’s great to drive 👍

    • @Marcus-cf6xc
      @Marcus-cf6xc 9 месяцев назад +3

      And me

    • @williamwood395
      @williamwood395 9 месяцев назад +7

      You’ve got 2 lovely cars buddy

    • @davidthomas1424
      @davidthomas1424 9 месяцев назад +3

      Thank you for your contribution to James ' great channel 😉👍

    • @MartinJones123
      @MartinJones123 9 месяцев назад +7

      I own a MK2 Focus ST/XR5 Turbo but the standard Focus doesn't seem bad at all... I prefer the styling of these to the very feminine (IMO) Toyota Corolla or Mazda 3 of the same era...

    • @Emira_75
      @Emira_75 9 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@MartinJones123'looks too feminine" sounds like something my narrow- minded grandad would say about anything other than a white dress shirt😅 don't be so insecure buddy phaha

  • @PenryMMJ
    @PenryMMJ 9 месяцев назад +26

    I had a Mk2 Focus, and it is indeed a very pleasant car that does everything you need for daily use. However mine seemed to be fitted with a kind of Klingon cloaking device that engaged whenever it was parked in a large carpark. I spent ages wandering around trying to find where I had left it. Apart from that though, it was great.

  • @blatherama
    @blatherama 9 месяцев назад +37

    Jay's battle with the Nissan pick-up truck added some interesting spice to this episode.

    • @alfonsodriver1324
      @alfonsodriver1324 9 месяцев назад +13

      Yes, I liked Jay's comments - at the incident, and later - on the lack of common sense (ie cameras everywhere! And achieving nothing apart from putting lives in added danger), incompetence and bad driving of vehicle YL68 XWY, including that fast overtake with a cyclist in play. Great video Jay, many thanks. Kind regards.

    • @johnalees99
      @johnalees99 9 месяцев назад +4

      The irony of it was that here in Australia the ute in question would almost certainly be a Ford Ranger.

    • @troynewton5833
      @troynewton5833 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@johnalees99 Came here to say I was surprised it wasn't a Ranger, however many a "#navlife" numpty run a close second.

    • @nickyburnell
      @nickyburnell 9 месяцев назад

      As a driver, HGV driver and cyclist: Pickups, "Redneck Transport", the worst driven things in North Devon, even worse than Audis

    • @DUNK007
      @DUNK007 9 месяцев назад +7

      Someone should tell the Navara driver that according to the DVLA they has an outstanding recall on their car !

  • @GentilsGarage
    @GentilsGarage 9 месяцев назад +49

    I also have a MK2 Focus 1.6 zetec. Bought it as a stop gap and 3 years on, I still have it. It’s cheap to run, affordable and I now can’t part with it.

    • @chrishart8548
      @chrishart8548 9 месяцев назад +1

      I've got a mk2 1.8tdci style. Can't seem to part with it. My dad borrowed it for a year then I had it back for a year then the mother in law had it for a year. Probably going to keep it till it dies but it feels like it might last forever. Got 69k on it

    • @jacknickprobe
      @jacknickprobe 9 месяцев назад

      Same here

    • @Karl_Burton
      @Karl_Burton 9 месяцев назад

      Pulling off a problem ?

    • @chrishart8548
      @chrishart8548 9 месяцев назад

      @@Karl_Burton don't really know what that means. Does that mean the car is a problem having it around but I'm making a good situation by making the most out of the car ?

    • @GentilsGarage
      @GentilsGarage 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@Karl_Burton no. Let’s face it, it’s 25 year old tech so doesn’t have the urgency of similar period or more modern cars. But does the job from getting a to b and in Surrey country road, it does it really well

  • @tedbainbrigge1374
    @tedbainbrigge1374 8 месяцев назад +1

    I’m a mechanic and have a facelift mk2 1.6 petrol and you’ll be amazed how many other mechanics buy them with that engine because there just so good and reliable. I love mine, great car!

  • @DrFod
    @DrFod 9 месяцев назад +21

    I had a Mk2.5 Focus Zetec with the old 1.8 Lynx diesel engine. It was a heavy lump of cast iron up front and you could feel it at times, but it was reliable unlike the disastrous 1.6 PSA lumps they replaced it with. A cool feature was that you could adjust the weight of the steering with comfort, normal and sport modes, a surprise on such a low trim level.

    • @lillexus5589
      @lillexus5589 7 месяцев назад

      1.4 PSA diesel is bulletproof on the other hand.

    • @gimble447
      @gimble447 7 месяцев назад

      Lynx sorry damned phone lol

  • @jackburtonstwin
    @jackburtonstwin 9 месяцев назад +29

    I feel your pain. I have an Audi A2 which suffers from the same issues with pulling away from a standstill. It requires all 40 years of my driving experience to manage a hill start and, even then, I have stalled-out as the whole exercise is like being a professional plate spinner having to work the clutch, throttle and handbrake in micro-managed unison to achieve something utterly basic, like rolling!

    • @richardharrold9736
      @richardharrold9736 9 месяцев назад +6

      I had the same in an E39 520i Touring, M54B22 engine. The driver who couldn't stall that thing at the slightest provocation has yet to be invented.

    • @liamclarke8269
      @liamclarke8269 9 месяцев назад +3

      I have a honda s2000, and sometimes it's the fastest car in the world but it seems like the slowest car at slow speeds, it has a large exhaust makes lots of noise so try to keep it quiet staying at really low rpm and everything pulls away, silly really. P
      S 13 years daily never let me down once, I love it ap1 1999 x

    • @neilturner6749
      @neilturner6749 9 месяцев назад +3

      Would that be an A2 with the 1.4 engine - either petrol or diesel? I worked in sales for VW/Audi in 2002-6 period and if I’d had a pound for every new 1.4 A2, Lupo or Polo returned to our aftersales workshops within 3 months due to persistent stalling I’d be a rich man! Thing was there was no fault as far as the manufacturer was concerned - it was just “how they were” in order to meet the first real wave of emissions restrictions. They’d used such a “tight” fuelling-map at low throttle that you either stalled or gave it some welly and shot off with the engine screaming!
      You could cure it with the petrol engine by running Super Unleaded (which effectively richened the fuel/air mixture) but of course costs 10% more but there was no cure for the diesel. It was such an irritating issue and ruined our customer satisfaction survey results (that hugely influenced our pay) so much that the savvy salespeople used to subtly direct buyers to alternative engines in the range.

    • @jackburtonstwin
      @jackburtonstwin 9 месяцев назад

      @@neilturner6749 Fascinating response. I have a petrol which was purchased for my son to learn to drive in. Needless to say, he has faced some challenges getting used to the throttle action. Heck, even I have struggled at times and I have been driving long enough to have experienced everything from an Austin 1300GT to various old Renaults, Audis, Rovers, Opel, Lancia and even the Ford Corsair with a V4 engine, and none of them were as easily coaxed into a stall as the A2.

    • @nlpnt
      @nlpnt 9 месяцев назад +1

      Had the same problem in a 2008 Toyota Yaris, 1.5 (all of 'em here). I think early digital throttles just were far too laggy.

  • @migsteele
    @migsteele 9 месяцев назад +1

    My first car was a mk2 ford focus, 1.8 zetec climate.
    I loved it, so many adventures and fun. 30ish mpg, fast enough for me to do tonnes of trips around the country.
    Super cheap to run, insure, put tyres on etc.
    Great ‘don’t take on debt’ car. And now we only have my wife’s car, I sold it to my brother in law for £500 (though at the time it was worth more than that) with hope he wouldn’t go into a debt spiral.
    Amazing car, would buy another one, very grateful for the memories and freedom it gave me.

  • @kenw1295
    @kenw1295 9 месяцев назад +1

    This is what makes your YT channel the only car one I watch these days, a good mixture of exotica and stories along with your average every day cars for Joe Bloggs. Other youtubers start off well but end up with ceaseless videos of buying ever increasingly expensive cars.

    • @JayEmmOnCars
      @JayEmmOnCars  9 месяцев назад +2

      I love a bit of posh stuff, but even for those who can afford it they're occasion vehicles - there's a lot of fun to be had at sensible money and I like to show that too :)

  • @Benjamin-xh5hj
    @Benjamin-xh5hj 8 месяцев назад +1

    Other half has the 1.8 petrol mk2. It’s done 69000 miles , still feels brand new. Lovely car, pulls well.

  • @stevenmanning6884
    @stevenmanning6884 9 месяцев назад +13

    Great video, I must admit I'm being drawn back to the blue Oval either a Focus or a Mondeo. With not alot of pennies to shell out on a vehicle its increasing likely.
    I learnt to drive late 70s mni, my driving instructor used to make me push it hard across the fens towards Peterborough training me to read the road ahead Great fun and learnt so much from my instructor. Needless to say my first car was a mini, which I modded to drive like a go car. Happy days indeed.

  • @dtulip8
    @dtulip8 9 месяцев назад +15

    I had a 56 plate pre-facelift 1.6 Zetec as a second car. Loved it, was cheap to run and much nicer to drive than the 2015 Punto I’d shared with my mum for a year after passing. Have now had the ST and RS versions as well

  • @Jam3sA
    @Jam3sA 9 месяцев назад +28

    The mk2 to me was a step down on the styling & fun front, but were way more comfortable mile munchers. Much prefer this engine to the Ecoboost too! I can understand James' reticence in jumping back into the car he learned in, I've refused to drive a Mk1 Clio since my test too

    • @MrAjjm65
      @MrAjjm65 9 месяцев назад +1

      I would refuse to step in to the car I passed my test in but I don’t think there are too many still on the road - a Metro MG Turbo!

    • @bensmithkent22
      @bensmithkent22 9 месяцев назад

      When I learnt in a 206 1.4 glx in 2003 it felt like it was so modern and refined 😂. Then a year or so later I owned a big (for me for the time v6 a4) drove a 206 again and a mk1 focus 1.6 and they felt so tinny in comparison with teeny little pedals.

    • @johnjackson2349
      @johnjackson2349 8 месяцев назад +1

      Early ecoboost engines had way too many problems, on the 1.0l for example the turbo was too close to the block and the heat cooling cycles would crack the block resulting in needing a new engine! Bloke at work had it replaced under warranty and the new engine came with a 1 year warranty because it was certain to happen again

    • @LOTPOR0402
      @LOTPOR0402 8 месяцев назад

      But a step up an the mk3

    • @dornsmichel_1364
      @dornsmichel_1364 8 месяцев назад +1

      I actually think the MK2 is by far the best looking of the Focuses 😅

  • @Pietervdv
    @Pietervdv 9 месяцев назад +21

    I had a 2004 1.6 tdci as a company car and absolutely loved it. Mind you, my company car before that was a 60 bhp Golf SDI, so it was an easy win.

    • @FatHead1979
      @FatHead1979 9 месяцев назад +6

      Ah, yes. That was the non-turbo charged engine wasn't it?

    • @18pestilence
      @18pestilence 9 месяцев назад +5

      Yes, the SDI was VW’s non-turbo diesel they put in their smaller cars. While I haven’t owned one, I have heard stories of those engines being virtually indestructible with just regular maintenance.

    • @FatHead1979
      @FatHead1979 9 месяцев назад +9

      @@18pestilence They also do 0-62MPH is about 2.5 hours! 🤣

    • @chrishart8548
      @chrishart8548 9 месяцев назад +5

      ​@@FatHead1979I think it's 18.5sec 0-60mph that's a long time though

    • @Pietervdv
      @Pietervdv 9 месяцев назад

      @@FatHead1979 it was indeed. Embarrassingly slow.

  • @petersturt8746
    @petersturt8746 9 месяцев назад +6

    I'm driving a 2l mk2 focus zetec in Australia and I find it's clutch quite easy but I do have the exact same problem with being passed aggressively by large pick ups who then go slow in the bends

    • @alanjm1234
      @alanjm1234 8 месяцев назад +2

      That's just 90% of Australian drivers. Super aggressive but basically incompetent. Anything other than a dead straight road is simply too much for them.

  • @alfienaylor1587
    @alfienaylor1587 2 дня назад

    The Mk1 and Mk2 Focuses enjoyed great success from the minute they arrived, and cars that are everywhere with nice looks like those Focuses are the cars I tend to go for.
    I had an 11 plate Sport model with 128,000 miles for work recently, and while the 1.6 TDCi drove amazingly, the comfort and convenience qualities let it down tremendously. Not a single radio station maintained its frequency, my Bluetooth kept disconnecting, and even tuned into Radio 1 it had a bug where it kept cutting out, and this actually activated the engine lights briefly. I spent the whole day on edge.

  • @machidaman
    @machidaman 9 месяцев назад +2

    These are the reviews that have kept me subbed since the really early days of your channel, and i love them. These are the cars that we can all relate to and many of us have driven, or even still drive.
    When I returned from over a decade in Tokyo and was waiting for my own car to ship here, my mum gave me her Focus and it was solid and i ended up keeping it for a while as a daily. Got me where i needed to relatively quietly and confortably, literally never broke, and just kinda slowly and progressively lost power in a way i have never relly experienced with any other car until it was no longer driveable.

  • @timblanden2778
    @timblanden2778 9 месяцев назад +7

    I learnt to drive in a XY Falcon (an Australian car), built like a tank, and apart from what felt like 300 turns lock to lock steering, I have a lot of fond memories. I bought a mk2.5 Focus XR5 (ST everywhere else) as an end of model demo run out in 2011 and have had it ever since. I love it. Sure I've had dalliances with other cars over the years, but all the new stuff is so boring (and expensive) that in the end I just keep it. It's due for a cam belt and the clutch is now near its end, so I'll give it a bit of a birthday and add a limited slip diff (it's only real dynamic let down) and maybe a bit of a tune. It's a great everyday car.

  • @josephkelly4893
    @josephkelly4893 9 месяцев назад +5

    I Had a 2008 saloon of this magic little car, the Ghia, the balance in that chassis was sublime, brakes were on point, steering perfect, and surprisingly quick. Thanks for the video JM

  • @leedsleedsleeds1747
    @leedsleedsleeds1747 9 месяцев назад +4

    I had a MK1 1.6 Zetec which was a great car to drive and used to go round roundabouts like it was on rails

    • @alecboyyes
      @alecboyyes 5 месяцев назад +1

      Same, now have a Mk3 1.6 econetic diesel, not quite as fun to drive.

  • @BN-cf8gk
    @BN-cf8gk 8 месяцев назад +3

    I learned to drive in a brand new mk2 Focus Titanium 2.0. Terrific car, extremely easy to drive, very easy to place on the road and park. All the controls felt right, including the relatively short throw gears, the stalks, steering, pedal feel etc. The works, it all felt right. I do remember it being a bit fussy on take off, but it was able to pull away okay in first, probably because it had more power.

  • @awesometised8065
    @awesometised8065 9 месяцев назад +8

    I passed my test in October 2021 and got my first car in January, a MK2 Focus Sport edition. I’ve still got it and I absolutely love the thing! The ST style alloys really make it stand out and look more modern than a 2011 car, it only has a 100hp variant of the 1.6 petrol but it still makes me smile every time I drive it as you can just rev it out making you feel you’re going much faster than you actually are! Unfortunately mines suffering from a rust problem on the wheel arches and other parts of the car but I have no intentions of ever giving it away until it literally falls apart under me. Not sure if it’s the first car buzz or the fact the MK2 is a gem but it’ll always hold a special place for me, thanks for the great video again Jay, definitely a bit bias if I say it’s one of my more favourite videos😉

    • @majorminor3367
      @majorminor3367 9 месяцев назад +2

      I have exactly the same one. It was the last run out of the mark 2 before the mark 3. In fact Ford built the mark 2 and 3 together well into 2011

    • @awesometised8065
      @awesometised8065 8 месяцев назад

      @@majorminor3367 I think they look better than the original mk3s, comparing mine with the mk3 on the street it looks a fair bit more sportier, obviously the trim levels and edition models make a huge difference when it comes to fords

    • @gimble447
      @gimble447 7 месяцев назад +1

      Sport and studio models were very basic bottom of the range affairs, equipment levels were just too low especially in the earlier models up to 2007/2008

  • @FatHead1979
    @FatHead1979 9 месяцев назад +13

    I'm still running a very early MK2 Focus 1.8 TDCi saloon. Currently it's on 181K miles and still on it's original clutch, DMF, injectors, high pressure fuel pump and turbo. As Jay mentioned on the video, it's important to keep on top of any new patches of rust (whilst it's still only surface rust), the early MK2s also didn't come with the long black plastic protective strip for the bottom of the sills, so I have to take extra car to grind off any rust spots etc.
    I've kept on top of maintenance so despite it not looking a bit rough painwork wise, it drives like a 7-8 year old car. MOT is due in December, which I'm expecting it to pass (it passed last year without needing any work) but I think I'll probably have replaced it with a MK4.5 Mondeo 2.2 TDCI Titanium X Sport before the December 2024 MOT lands due. I've owned the car for nearly 12 years and will be sad to see it go, on the upside if everything has gone to plan I'll then own a 197BHP Mondeo with heated seats 🤣

    • @chrishart8548
      @chrishart8548 9 месяцев назад +1

      Wow very close to my situation I have a mk2 focus 1.8tdci hatchback owned since 2008 so just over 15 years. My other car in the garage off the road for now as I'm driving the focus is a mk4.5 mondeo titanium-x powershift estate. Its not the 2.2 just the 163hp 2 litre. It's a real treat to drive though. Heated / cooled seats cruise control. Auto light's/wipers, adaptive headlights, halve leather alcantara interior, brushed aluminium everywhere.

    • @DrFod
      @DrFod 9 месяцев назад +3

      The 1.8 Lynx diesel engines are a bit agricultural but will go on forever if maintained properly. The 1.6 engines they replaced them with had all kinds of problems.

    • @chrishart8548
      @chrishart8548 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@DrFod I had a choice of the 1.6 or 1.8 diesel when I bought the car. The ford garage actually said I should go with the 1.8 looks like it was good advice. It's 16 years old Feb 2024 and it's cost me nothing other than fuel.

    • @FatHead1979
      @FatHead1979 9 месяцев назад +4

      @@DrFod Indeed. The only exception to that in terms of the Lynx engine is the last 12-18 months of the production run, Ford decided it would be a super idea to change the lower heavy duty chain (that NEVER, ever failed) for, wait for it...a phucking wet belt 🤦and we all know how well wet belt's worked out of the 1st gen 1.0 EB and the current 2.0 TDCi (EcoBlue) engines #Muppets

  • @harryturner9907
    @harryturner9907 9 месяцев назад +7

    I loved my mk2 zetec it was my third car and the first car I had that had any ammount of power behind it, going from a 1.4 astra to this felt like a different world. I told everyone it was a luke warm hatch it was great!

  • @jacksjp
    @jacksjp 8 месяцев назад +1

    I also learnt to drive in a focus 1.6 from the aa from that time. And I agree the clutch took alittle getting used to. The visibility of seeing out made the manoeuvres easy and it was a easy car to judge when approaching gaps in traffic or down narrow lanes.
    Several years later i owned a st version and it was a blast to drive.

  • @deaks25
    @deaks25 9 месяцев назад +4

    My parents had a black 59-plate Mk2 1.6l Zetec that had been very well spec’d. it was a generally nice little car that was a reliable little workhorse. The fact they went straight to the Mk3 based on how the Mk 2 performed.
    I know it’s relatively gutless, but that 1.6 always sounds nice and peppy.

  • @missogyny4921
    @missogyny4921 9 месяцев назад +2

    My nemesis of a learner car was a Hillman Imp (yes, I am that old!). The surging/kangarooing tendency on start off due to the rubber driveshaft doughnuts is something I remember, plus the disconcerting way you had to ram the gear lever across the gate to find reverse. Fond memories of the ex-Army instructor asking me to stop at the tobacconist during lessons so he could keep his pipe lit! I eventually owned a couple of Imps, one of which I rolled over on a gravelled country lane while showing off, so my (over) confidence had grown since the learner days!

  • @andrewmoorhouse687
    @andrewmoorhouse687 9 месяцев назад +1

    I had a Mk1 1.8 Petrol Ghia and, to this day, it remains one of my favourite cars I’ve owned. I had it 4 and a half years and put 68,000 miles on the clock. The ride and handling balance particularly were a revelation at the time, the 1.8 fairly pokey, with more torque than the 1.6, if a bit more reluctant to rev. It wasn’t that the car was necessarily brilliant in all areas, though it was in some, it was just that it seemed so complete as a package. It took us all round France one year and remains the only car I’ve driven round Le Mans. I’d love to try one today to rekindle old memories and see if they’re still as good as I remember. Oh, and learner car was an Austin Metro 1.0L, bright red, one of BSM’s finest!

  • @AntJoseph_
    @AntJoseph_ 9 месяцев назад +2

    9:10 That’s exactly my thought with most 2000's hatchbacks. They just still look somewhat modern today, and they're not as ugly as newer ones.

  • @anthonygregg862
    @anthonygregg862 9 месяцев назад +5

    Hi James. I learnt to drive in a 1.4 Nova SR. It was a decent car. My instructor was a lovely chap and felt at ease driving the car having been driving on private roads for a while. Then I had a limited budget for my first car which was a Talbot Horizon 1.3. It lasted a few years until it fell apart to rust. Thanks for all your superb content and entertainment.

    • @GTFour
      @GTFour 9 месяцев назад +2

      Nova SR learner car, very cool (for the time) instructor and learner car! I had one as my second car for a year. Great fun. Got ragged stupid absolutely everywhere. Always wanted a GSi though!

    • @kevinjamesparr552
      @kevinjamesparr552 8 месяцев назад +1

      I learned to drive a Mayflower made by Triumph. Since then have driven million miles in many cars . This Ford is a modern safe deal .Cars back in my time had none of the safety features but we drove them all over the world with no fear

  • @Jo3man96
    @Jo3man96 9 месяцев назад +1

    I learnt to drive in a mk2 focus too, a 1.6 diesel. I found it very easy to learn in, definitely more than the seat ibiza my first instructor had (had to change instructors because the first one had to have open heart surgery and he had to have time off from driving).

  • @Daniel_Tromans
    @Daniel_Tromans 9 месяцев назад

    Great video James! I learnt to drive in a 1999 Polo, which was base spec so had no abs, power steering, or anything really! But loved it so much that I bought it back a couple of years ago and have recently gone on a road trip to Croatia and back in it

  • @robertwilkins3043
    @robertwilkins3043 8 месяцев назад

    Great job 👍🏻 I have been restoring my Scirocco Storm for the past 5 years and found your videos super helpful.

  • @taxus750
    @taxus750 9 месяцев назад +12

    Apart from the 5-pot ST (sold here in Oz as the XR5) the other Mk2 Focus I wanted to drive was the 1.6 turbo-diesel. I still like the design of these.
    [edit] I meant to type 2.0 TDCi, not 1.6 [/edit]

  • @MadLFC
    @MadLFC 9 дней назад

    Had the same model in an auto and although the fuel economy was average at best it was such a solid well planted car that gave you loads of confidence when driving it. The auto transmission was buttery smooth and we had seven years trouble free motoring out of it.

  • @epicginganinja1142
    @epicginganinja1142 9 месяцев назад

    I’ve owned a mk2 pre facelift ST in electric orange for just over 5 months and I’ve fallen in love already. Keep up the good reviews!

  • @RJ-fj8cf
    @RJ-fj8cf 9 месяцев назад +1

    Feels very nostalgic seeing a tidy one in AA driving school spec, then realising it was 14 years ago I last drove one. Thanks for that 😄

  • @steverees1936
    @steverees1936 8 месяцев назад +1

    After owning a mk 1 focus 1.8 diesel estate which was called Florence by my wife, I really enjoyed owning it for many years. I finally traded it in after reaching 300,000 miles for a mk 2 focus estate with the same 1.8 diesel engine and I've had it for 6 years. It has got 176500 miles on the clock and still pulls like a train. I really love these wee cars and the 1.8 diesel is in my opinion one of Fords best engines. I personally don't have the clutch issue, when pulling off so not sure if it has the same set up as the petrol cars.

  • @mattnev
    @mattnev 9 месяцев назад +7

    Had one. Genuinely brilliant car. Drove well, looked ok, could fill it up take rubbish to the tip. 🤣

  • @canerguener8664
    @canerguener8664 8 месяцев назад +2

    Cornering behavior like a sports car. Underrated vehicle.

  • @harryfonseca7730
    @harryfonseca7730 9 месяцев назад

    I had one of these as my first car at 17. Exactly the same as this one. Absolutely loved it.

  • @fgaze72
    @fgaze72 9 месяцев назад +2

    I only recently noticed the very original tail-light design on the mk2 focus, and now i cant stop noticing them

  • @mikestringfellow7999
    @mikestringfellow7999 9 месяцев назад

    My first car was a pre-facelift mk2 Focus with this engine. It had the auto box, so was even slower than this, and it had more issues than any other car I’ve owned in the 16 years since, but all were relatively cheap and easy to fix, I could park it with 1 finger on the wheel and it was mine. I loved it!

  • @mitsum17chi
    @mitsum17chi 9 месяцев назад +1

    I learned in a "19 MK3 Leon 1.5 TSi Evo. Quite modern compared to the Focus (then again, this was only 6 months ago that I passed) but a great car to learn in. Very easy to control, smooth gearbox, and a user friendly layout. I would own one myself, so haven't really got any fear of it.

  • @chrishart8548
    @chrishart8548 9 месяцев назад +2

    Ive stuck 17" wheels on my mk2 with 215/55/17 tyres (for reference same size as a nissan juke or vw t-rok) amazing they fit ok and never rub. The rid over bad roads is amazing. And the speedo is spot on according to gps dashcam and google maps. And it still handles like its on rails. Suspension on these cars is way to firm. Its a bit like a cross over without the premium. Its also made it much easier to get in and out of due ti the extra height.

  • @nixer65
    @nixer65 9 месяцев назад +25

    I still think the mark 1 was a much prettier car than any of the following models. I know they had to update it, but I honestly think the mark 2 was a step back in styling. The mark 1 is a classic.

    • @kevincockburn7805
      @kevincockburn7805 9 месяцев назад +10

      100% agree, the mk1 was a very sharp shape.

    • @kofib3
      @kofib3 9 месяцев назад +2

      The MK 1 has aged well in my opinion.

    • @michael5089
      @michael5089 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@kofib3 I have had a 2004 model since 2006. Mk 1 Still going!!

    • @kofib3
      @kofib3 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@michael5089 Enjoy and look after it for many years to come👍

    • @michael5089
      @michael5089 9 месяцев назад

      @@kofib3 ☺️👍

  • @Kacpa2
    @Kacpa2 9 месяцев назад +2

    Nice to see more basic cars again :)
    I wonder if you have Lexus IS200 Sportcross on the radar to review.(manual ofcourse).
    I am curious about those and your reviews are always touching up on things that truly matter for a petrol head.
    I myself drove Focus mk1 2.0 Zetec, and it was a blast. Engine so maniacly lively and rev happy that in spite of having "just" 130hp it was incredibly fun.

  • @Jaguarwhisperer
    @Jaguarwhisperer 8 месяцев назад +1

    I had a mk2 1.8 zetec for a year . It rusted more every time I washed it. It was a miserable experience for me. It doesn’t go on performance or engine size for brakes but trim. You need a Ghia or above for rear disc brakes. Great video ,sent shivers down my spine to be reminded of it too.

  • @chrisdowns1987
    @chrisdowns1987 9 месяцев назад

    As an apprentice in the mid naughties we had a fair selection of the mk2 ST on the used car pitch. I remember them as a car that started you grinning as soon as they fired up and kept you smiling long after you put the keys back. Great noises 😊

  • @Golo1949
    @Golo1949 5 месяцев назад +1

    I have the MK2 1.6 tdci Zetec estate, 59 year it also has wind-up rear windows, discs on the back also, but it is actually the 2010 model. 75+ on a long journey cheap road tax, plenty of torque and it isnt slow, when needed, comfortable easy to drive, excellent road holding, (the Zetec have sports suspension).

  • @jameslawford4057
    @jameslawford4057 8 месяцев назад

    Like you I learned in an AA Ford Focus, passed second time and loved the car so much that I bought a Mk1 Focus 5dr. 1.6l petrol, and... Ghia spec - grey leather seats, wood trim and a tape player!

  • @optimusprimevil1646
    @optimusprimevil1646 9 месяцев назад

    happy to hear chris harris and jay emm say the mk1 was a special car because i always felt mine was. i used to take it into the hills of stirlingshire just for the driving experience. felt so sharp in the corners, rotated well, great body control, balanced, notchy gear shift, 1.6 was adequate, not too heavy, marvellous.
    one of those cars that seemed to get everything right, like my clio 2, e46 318 and mk2 mx 5. it's good to be vindicated because without much context, i never new if i always made luckily superb choices or just loved cars so much, because i also had a strange fondness with my p12 primera and dad's insignia

  • @philcrockford5534
    @philcrockford5534 9 месяцев назад

    Learned to drive in a 1982 Datsun Sunny saloon, but my last car prior to my current one was a 09 plate Mk2.5 Focus Titanium TDCi with the 2 litre engine and 6 speed manual. Loved it. All Fords had a reasonably sharp clutch but you get used to it. Plus it meant that in 30 years and 4 Fords I never had a clutch last less than 130,000 miles

  • @somethingfromnothing8428
    @somethingfromnothing8428 8 месяцев назад

    My dad had a 2006 mk2 ford focus st3 that he’s owned for 17 years. He passed away a couple of months ago and i’ve kept it on as my second car with the aim of one day restoring it to mint condition in memory of him. Its an amazing car and i never, ever intend to get rid of it

  • @eddiec438
    @eddiec438 9 месяцев назад +1

    Admittedly I've had the ST versions, but still basically Mk2 Focus and they have been brilliant cars. Extremely reliable, well-built and tough. No rust and great paintwork. Loads of space and comfort and enough tech for me. Plus with the ST its fast and easy to modify. A great Ford.

  • @tobothehobo
    @tobothehobo 9 месяцев назад

    I had a pre facelift mk2 1.6 3door and loved it.
    i kept it for 7 years and it was bulletproof only general maintenance kept it tip top.

  • @klimenz
    @klimenz 9 месяцев назад +1

    Yay! I had fully loaded black 05 Ghia saloon for 6 years. A very decent car that was, except rust. Usual stuff around wheel arches etc. Dirt cheap spare parts available everywhere was a massive bonus. Much better motor than similar year's competitor Auris

  • @xsbgtr
    @xsbgtr 9 месяцев назад

    Hello Jay. My name is Sinuhe. I am from Mexico City and learned to drive in an American MK1 Focus Wagon 2.0 Zetec wih the 4-speeed auto. Amazing car. It managed to survive 23 years of Mexican daily punishment 4 different drivers from the same family and several dishonest/incompetent mechanics( including the ones at the dealership). Right now the car has a broken engine bolt and needs replacement of the head gasket and also needs a new battery and possibly also an alternator replacement. It also needs new suspension parts and I have not been able to find the proper steering replacement. But I love it like no other car so it´s my project and I hope in a few years it can look and drive as new or even a little better. Greetings from the American continent and please keep up the great content in this fabulous channel of yours!

  • @RZM_Valkyrie
    @RZM_Valkyrie 9 месяцев назад +1

    I'm currently learning in a Ford Puma. It's ridiculously easy to drive and it'll take anything a learner can throw at it

  • @nslall
    @nslall 9 месяцев назад +1

    I learned in a Nissan Almera… until i fail 4 times, at which point i switched to the AA and passed in a mk2 focus. At that point we had an early mk1 2.0 focus which i loved. We then upgraded to a mk2 1.6 saloon, we loved that but the issues that we had with the VCT system ended up killing us and we got rid for a 2.2 civic diesel. I look back at the 2 focuses we had and i think they were beautiful to drive.

  • @peterbarber8053
    @peterbarber8053 9 месяцев назад

    I owned a mk2 1.6 for two years. It wasn’t quick but the controls were weighted nicely, steering gave good feedback and just handled well. It also happens to be one of the most reliable cars I’ve owned.

  • @mr_pastry
    @mr_pastry 9 месяцев назад

    I started to learn to drive in a Pug 106 1.1. As I am 6ft3 with size 12’s, I struggled with the footwell so finished learning in my Mums S reg Golf Mk4 TDi 90bhp.

  • @nealadsett8484
    @nealadsett8484 9 месяцев назад

    I had a 2010 Focus 1.6 mk 2 sport in white. Really nice car, handled well, looked great. Yes completely agree on the pulling away. I pulled away regularly in a more lumpy manner than in any previous cars. When I first owned it I often thought my driving skills had taken a nosedive. Not had the same problem on subsequent cars.

  • @ChuckFickens1972
    @ChuckFickens1972 9 месяцев назад +1

    If you want a tricky car to get off the line cleanly, you're welcome to try my MK2 Mazda6 2.5L sport. it's the hardest thing to pull away smoothly I've ever driven in my over 30 years of driving, yet once it's going one of the nicest driving cars I've ever owned.

  • @davidd4531
    @davidd4531 9 месяцев назад

    So good to learn that I am not alone with the clutch issue… Mine is however on a Volvo C30, with the Ford 2l engine and the 5-speed gearbox.
    Extremely frustrating driving experience in traffic. It is so bad that I took it to a Volvo specialist, which told me it was in perfect condition and that it just was a trait of this engine and gearbox.

  • @escapetheratracenow9883
    @escapetheratracenow9883 9 месяцев назад +1

    We drove our 2009 Ford Focus 1.6 zetec all the way from South East Bulgaria up to Helmsdale in the Scottish Highlands and back again. Six thousand miles in an epic road trip.
    The car behaved magnificently, didn't need any oil or coolant.
    It's clocked up 88,000 miles and has all its original parts from the day it left the dealer.
    What more can you ask from a car?

  • @flycorvus
    @flycorvus 9 месяцев назад

    Couldn't agree more about Mk1 Focus. My daily driver is a 1.8 Zetec Turnier from '02. 200k miles on it, w/o any problem. Serves like a Swiss watch. Just finished the DIY restoration (brakes, exhaust, rear suspension, all fuel lines, at home) That's a keeper, at the age of 21.

  • @matthewgodwin3050
    @matthewgodwin3050 9 месяцев назад +2

    Had a mk2 Focus diesel as a courtesy car earlier this year and was very impressed with it. 130k on the clock and had previously been in a frontal accident and repaired, but it drove absolutely fantastically. Don't recall it being difficult to get off the line though, and I usually drive an automatic, so if anyone was going to have problems, it would be me. Maybe it had had a recent new clutch or something. Anyway, it was a brilliant car, and I certainly wouldn't be opposed to buying one, just so long as I could find one with a torque converter auto.

  • @maidenthemetalhead
    @maidenthemetalhead 9 месяцев назад

    I learned to drive in a MK5 Astra with a 1.3 Diesel engine. My mother owned a MK2 Focus and its probably the best car she's ever had. Comfortable, easy to live with, fairly reliable, spacious and great to drive. Still a great car 18 years on 😊

  • @n0temalex
    @n0temalex 9 месяцев назад

    The MK2 Focus is really got into my heart, as well as other cars on it's platform like Volvo S40/C30/V50 and Mazda 3, my mom even got an S40 2007 pre-facelift with 1.6 B4164S3 engine with 5 speed manual. Even though Volvo got different suspension settings, all disc brakes, heavier body than a Focus, but still - Great car. It was the one, who teached me how to drive. And it is still a car, which is still my biggest dream.

  • @Beth9228
    @Beth9228 2 месяца назад

    I used to drive a 2005 Ford Focus ZX5 with SES trim level. It got totaled in a bad car accident in early March 2012. From the accident that I gotten a broken left ankle. It was a fun little car and I almost have it for 7 years. My vehicle now is a 2020 Ford Escape SE in black.

  • @chumbucket1026
    @chumbucket1026 9 месяцев назад

    I too was an AA learner 20 years ago. I hated the heated screen on the focus. My instructor went self employed and got a fiesta black. Great little car

  • @ImadHadjersi
    @ImadHadjersi 8 месяцев назад +1

    Crazy how it still looks good and modern (except for the interior obviously)! I especially like the rear.

  • @bradscott1177
    @bradscott1177 9 месяцев назад +1

    Just had my mk2 focus scrapped yesterday, broke my heart it was a brilliant car!

  • @rowlewis81
    @rowlewis81 9 месяцев назад

    Learnt to drive with the Aa but in a 1.25 fiesta waa defo fun to drive in, my instructor was also a lovely bloke that allowed me on the A1 so could get some speed up

  • @Richard-Bullock
    @Richard-Bullock 9 месяцев назад

    When I was learning to drive, my driving instructor had a 1991/J (K10) Nissan Micra 1.2 GS, and my dad had a 1986/C mk2 Vauxhall Cavalier 1.6 L. Both VERY different cars to a 17 year old learner driver.

  • @peterrichardson9248
    @peterrichardson9248 8 месяцев назад

    Hired a Focus Mk2 in Newcastle and drove to the lake district. It was a revelation for me. Not much power but such a joy in the corners.

  • @brianfearn4246
    @brianfearn4246 8 месяцев назад

    Great video, I've owned 2010 focus for 11 years now and still runs fabulously with regular oil changes and general maintenance they should last. If you are buying a 1.6 focus make sure the cambelt & auxiliary belts have been changed also be prepared to change the external key opening bonnet mechanism when it fails ,ive replaced mine. 😂

  • @anthonyroylance867
    @anthonyroylance867 9 месяцев назад +3

    I've owned a fair few cars in my time of driving and I've driven a decent amount of cars and I love my mk2 focus convertible. It's a 1.6 same as the focus in this video so it's not the quickest or the most engaging drive, but as a cruiser it's a lovely car to drive. I've even driven a Merc C220d coupé from London to Manchester and when I got back in my focus cc, I actually thought my car drove better if I'm honest.

  • @alextoft9199
    @alextoft9199 9 месяцев назад +2

    Great cars. I recently did a long motorway trip to Llandudno as a passanger. It was a bit boring but a nice smooth drive and for the price I'd definitely have one. I did drive it briefly and found it quite sharp but maybe didn't have the handling fineness of my 1999 Fiesta. Could have just been that example though. I can really relate with the small Zetecs and clutch. My 1.25 Fiesta was exactly the same. It's part of It's sporty character and zetecs are lively zingy units that love to rev. Getting it moving fine but you do have to rev them too much and sound like your Grandad slipping the clutch. Could never get a nice smooth change in the lower gears. The revs didn't drop quick enough and 1st is so low compared to second. Always used to get a jerk or shunt and made me feel like an amateur. There is a way to drive a Zetec. Drive it with conviction, give it a few revs and enjoy the classic gearbox whine in the lower gears and sporty growl. They are cracking units when you accept the flaws and have a lot more character than the Ecoboom in my opinion.

  • @937m
    @937m 9 месяцев назад

    My grandmother in Turkey has one of these. She bought it new in 2011 (I think) and it has never missed a beat. She has got the Platinum trim with the same 1.6 and an automatic transmission. I always found it to be an surprisingly good car to drive, but the automatic slushbox tranmission combined with the 1.6 and the hills and mountains in Turkey make it feel quite sluggish.

  • @Marcus-cf6xc
    @Marcus-cf6xc 9 месяцев назад +4

    The mk2 focus is a very good car with the seats down you can almost anything in there

  • @bigddb92
    @bigddb92 9 месяцев назад

    My first car & learned to drive in was a Saturn SC2 3 door coupe 5spd. Love that car. Took it to my first autocross too

  • @Mmoukarii
    @Mmoukarii 8 месяцев назад

    I learned to drive in an mk3 Mondeo 1.8 Estate. The mk2 Focus became familiar to me when those were usually given as a service courtesy car from the dealer, and I can agree with the tricky pulling away thing along with the very plastic feeling interior compared to the Mondeo, but other than that I have good memories with this car.

  • @craggercragger8989
    @craggercragger8989 8 месяцев назад

    My first car back in 2007 was a W (2000) 1.8 LX Focus - great car. I changed to a lemon of an E46 316 after about 4 years, then changed to a Mk2 facelift Focus "Sport" with a 1.6 engine (a trim level which was basically a Zetec, but with ST ish wheels and Sat nav/usb, etc, to help shift the last few from forecourts, is how the dealer described it to me).
    Good car, but it was no where near as good to drive as the Mk1 and after a few weeks, I wished I could have taken it back and just bought a Mk1 Ghia or similar. It later got side traded for a 2006 Mondeo 2l petrol - this was quite reminiscent of the Mk1 focus and I was far, far happier with this (plus we needed the additional space due to having 2 dogs by this point.)
    Interesting video, thanks for taking the time to review and share it.

  • @88jerryw88
    @88jerryw88 6 месяцев назад

    When in the UK 10 years ago I had rented a MK2.5 Focus and been very impressed with it. Six months ago here in Western Australia I bought the same model with a 2 litre Tdci and it's a great car. Very economical and the dry climate here along with no yearly MOT means it will last forever.

  • @thegrinch8161
    @thegrinch8161 9 месяцев назад

    Thanks for the reminder jay, my legal learner car was a mark 2 I think it mini metro with BSM motor school. The driving instructor said I was a natural driver who stuck to the speed limit and I did but when you remember that I failed my first test in 1980 but I kept on driving bangers until I passed but I didnae tell him that in case he got prejudiced against me

  • @GarySimmonds
    @GarySimmonds 9 месяцев назад

    My official learners car was a Datsun 120Y, very common instructors car in the 1970's. But my first lessons where in my Dad's Mk4 Ford Zephyr V6, with column gearshift 😮

  • @davidgetero9311
    @davidgetero9311 9 месяцев назад

    I have not one but two Focus Mk2, both pre facelift, both '05 model, both blue, one with the 1.6 100hp Zetec, the other, with the 1.8 TDCI Lynx. Both have passed the 300k km mark and still running just fine, i love how they handle, the petrol one is super fun in twisty roads, loves to rev to the redline, the diesel have lots of torque and it's gearbox is long enough to travel comfortably on the highway. Sometimes people argue that they are just crap cars, but for me they are just perfect, I don't need anything else.

  • @dionvandenberg
    @dionvandenberg 4 месяца назад

    My first car was a 1990 Mazda 323F (Astina). Faded red, 10 yrs of experience and a hoot to drive. I absolutely adored it. So much in fact, that I replaced it with a 1997 323F (Lantis) in 2006, a car that I probably liked even more. Then I switched to VAG cars, then to BMWs and now I have a Mazda again, be it only for the weekends. It's a 2006 MX-5 2.0 and it's absolutely fabulous.

  • @thecreedy
    @thecreedy 8 месяцев назад

    My mum has had one for the last 6 years, I've owned 3 Focus' myself and they've always been fantastic cars.

  • @yoshi555king
    @yoshi555king 9 месяцев назад

    I did my driving test in a 2013 Volvo V40 D3 R-design. 2400CC L5T diesel with 150bhp and nice turboflutter and deep exhaust sound. Rear view was severe limited but it was the best for driving backwards at 25mph

  • @rizaanjappie
    @rizaanjappie 7 месяцев назад

    I owned the pre face lift 1.6 SI model, brilliant driving position,great fuel consumption. Comfortable suspension even on 17 inch rims, looked cool to

  • @mickyboy1955
    @mickyboy1955 7 месяцев назад

    I have a mk2 ford focus 1.6 zetec automatic that i bought with 33000 miles on it 8 years ago.It now has 125000 miles on it.It has passed every M.O.T,all i have ever replaced is a battery and a stop light and normal stuff like tyres,etc and it never lets me down,rain or shine.It's been a great car...

  • @colmfoley5583
    @colmfoley5583 9 месяцев назад

    Ran a Mk 2.5 Tdci for 7 years. Great car. Loved it.... not as refined as the Golf but a reliable, fun and economical car to own. Have had a Mk 1 and now have Mk 3.5 Focus..

  • @martinhudson2552
    @martinhudson2552 3 месяца назад

    I own one of these in the estate version and a mark 5 fiesta 1.4. Both cars 100% reliable. They don’t have the torque of diesel cars but can cruise at motorway speeds easily. I maintain and waxoil all my own cars and rust up to now has not been an issue. Enjoyed the video. 👍