Toyota Sienna Seats in an RV - Part 2: Redo with New Swivel Base & Sliders
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- Two years ago, we installed a Toyota Sienna seat in our bus for our passenger seat. At that time, we made a custom mounting bracket to fit the base from the previous seat. Well, the time finally came to replace the driver’s seat as well, but we desperately needed new bases for both seats. We took our previous design of the mounting bracket we had made and modified it to work with the new swivel bases. We also added sliders to make these seats truly multifunctional. They can now swivel, slide, recline with a footrest, and be fully removed.
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Comments help so I will say again that I love watching the problem solving and design process.
Thank you Ashley - they do indeed help!
Your oldest daughter is strong she pulled for all she was worth and didn't give up. I had my doubts about the driver seat being able to rotate, you figured it out. WOW L-Z-Boy recliners in a custom coach. Another great install by Juan and Michelle. Thank you for sharing your video with us. Ed
Thanks, Ed. She is shockingly strong. And, we also weren't 100% sure we were going to be able to rotate the driver's seat without removing the chair, swiveling the base, and then reattaching it. We were willing to do that if we had to, since we likely will leave it rotated toward the living room when we are parked somewhere, and only have it facing the steering wheel for drive days. We were pleasantly surprised that we were able to figure out the right combination of turn, slide, turn, slide to get it to turn in that tight space between the shifter and electrical panel.
Man, you guys always come up with the greatest videos when I do a search for a specific solution to a specific problem. We just picked up some really nice leather van buckets, the kind that you release a latch than tilt forward and lift to remove. We want to mount them on swivels and make them our living room chairs. Here you come again to the rescue. Thanks so much for breaking a trail for us!
We found them on someone's lawn with a "FREE" sign on them while walking our dog in the neighborhood. Not a stain or a rip. Someone is looking over us on our bus build I think.
Nice Seats! Job very well done. But I must say Lucky Daddy able to have his baby girl working next to him! Totally Fantastic!!
Thank you Dennis. We do feel very lucky to have our kids with us for this entire project. They help whenever they can and love to be a part of it. She did a great job on this part!
still amazed at all you can do !!
Thanks, Ron. We are learning new tricks as we go.
It's nice to find someone else who knows about baling wire!
Yes, and we are working on the bus out at our family's shop where they keep all of their old retired farming equipment. Michelle comes from a farming family. We scavenged the baling wire from the shed behind the shop. :)
Them seats are awesome, talk about riding and driving in style and comfort.
Thanks, Jerry. They certainly are a huge step up from the old ones.
Where in Mexico did you get your bus painted. Can you send me the information in the comments
very nice job Juan & Michelle. the chairs look terrific and very comfy also. nice work by your daughter helping out. I showed my daughter the video and told her its time for her to start helping me out.
Thanks again Juan & Michelle
Thanks Rich! LOL - You have our full support to use our videos to encourage your daughter to help out :).
Great job.. those seats are a good fit and I really do like the footrest. Plus I am sure you can pick those up for less than RV seats. One recommendation is that the pin to latch the seat would be a little bit stronger with support on both sides of the pin, that is how the factory seats are made.. hopefully you will never have to test that but I believe that would be the weak point. Keep up the good work, you guys will be on the road in no time.
Thank you Gino. We got the seats from a place that does handicap accessible vans. We priced out RV seats of course but those were as much as $3000 per seat! Even the more affordable options were around $1200 per seat. We picked up both of the seats for about $800. Still fairly pricey but more reasonable. Thank you so much we really hope to be traveling soon!
I agree Gino the pins need outboard support for strengthening. They will fail under load and the seat will slide out please check with an engineer to be sure
Looks great. Well thought out. I got a chuckle seeing your daughter put some muscle on that wrench. I was thinking "come on dad have a heart - give the kid a cheater bar". LOL!
Thanks, Mark. She did a great job getting those bolts tight. No cheater bar needed! ;)
Everything is good with the family waiting on the next video
Thanks Derek - it has been a busy season and we finally released one today :)
What I need is a shop like this to build out my bus.
Another fine project! 🙌🏾 God bless y'all, be safe. What memories you guys are making. 🙂
Thank you, Katherin.
Love the attention to detail and how you are doing it right - not just functional or good enough.
Thanks, Todd. We really want this to last for years and years to come, so we are trying to do it right the first time. I'm sure we won't get it all right and will have to make repairs or adjustments down the road, but the fewer the better. :)
Love those seats with the belt built in. Won't be long now. Nancy and I would love to have you all stop in when your out our way.
Thanks, Jay.
The spring you have for engaging/disengaging the sliders can be reused. I would determine the length you need then cut them in the middle and remove the excess but keep enough to overlap about a 1/2 inch or so. You can then take a small 1/2 inch piece of metal and drill holes the diameter of the wire on each end. Run the wire through the hole and loop it. You could even spot weld it. Another option would be to cut them as mentioned above and put them together slightly overlapping them (paralllel) and weld.
Very nice Frank! I had not even considered that option and it does indeed sound like a great option! The original wire was so thin I think I would have a hard time welding it (mostly due to my lack of experience) but I am sure someone more proficient would make this work beautifully! Thanks for the tip!
Wow! Awesome work. ❤ We came from Chandler before we moved here.
Damn...you guys really do awesome work...these are going to be safe & useful for many years!
Thanks, Gregory. Way safer than what was in there before. The old pedestal on the driver's seat was honestly scary. So glad to have these new seats and bases now.
Very Nice! Great job on the design and outcome. Steel fabrication is really satisfying...not many people do it. I'm sending this video to Toyota. They'll be calling soon with a job offer for you soon Juan, I'm sure! I think your daughter is next on their list for an engineering job. What great practical experience for your kids!! (We tease our daughter, now 43, about being able to put roofing experience on her resume. Our kids did it all with us too.)
That's so awesome, John! I bet your kids have such good memories. We hope our kids remember all of this with smiles on their faces someday. Our kids will have to start a list of all their "special skills" to add to their resumes one day. :)
Very nice! When do we leave I will be right over. Hahaha
Great channel 👍🏼
We are rebuilding our undercarriage now.
Thank you Darryl. You guys are doing a great job! I saw some of the pics you posted on PD-4104 page and immediately recognized it from your channel. It looks fantastic!
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Thank you Juan
Watching your RUclips channel has really inspired and motivated me.
I bought Wally B about 3 months ago and I new I wanted refresh his undercarriage in away I haven’t seen on the other bus sites and for my own peace of mind.
Thank you for your inspirations
I hope we can meet up one day.
Fantastic work guys..
Thanks, DJ.
Another job well done!
Thanks, Richard.
Nice seats and work. You know a bar stool would have been much easier but not quite as comfortable. Alan
LOL! Yes, that would have been much easier. I don't think our backs would have appreciated it though. :)
Holly shit man. Dot approved.
LOL! Thanks, Charlie.
@@BeginningfromthisMorningAll the work being done is amazing!
Nice job on the seats! I've been following this build for a few years now and I can see the light at the end of the tunnel finally. Before you know it covid will be gone and you'll be on the road with 4 kids fighting with each other for hours and complaining about being hungry, someone touching the other and having to use the bathroom.
Thank you - I sure hope so! I am actually looking forward to the "Are we there yet?", "How much longer", "I am hungry!" LOL. Thank you for joining us and your insightful and thoughtful comments.
Nice work, looks super!
Thanks a lot!
great work guys.
Thanks
Lovely seats - and another great job😀
Thanks, Alison. They are certainly a much needed improvement over what was in there previously.
Looks great well worth all the effort
Well done guys.
Thanks, Brian.
Go devils! Great content! Am taking plenty of notes for our build.
LET'S GO DEVILS! Awesome Javier! What are you guys building?
@@BeginningfromthisMorning We're building a '97 Gillig high floor transit bus ! Thank you for the informative videos. We're on IG @lacoronabus 👌🏽
@@javcrodgz Oh man you guys even had Bernie visit your bus!!
@@BeginningfromthisMorning 😀😂 Maybe we'll cross paths someday!
@@javcrodgz I hope so! Best of luck guys! Let us know if you get stuck or need someone to bounce ideas off of!
As always - great team work and a good job complete.👍😀
Thank you so much 😀
Great work. Just found your channel. Can tell you take great pride in your work, I love that!
Welcome aboard!
G'day guys,
Kevin here from Australia.
Wow what an addition two seats make. Job well done. And a thing to remember next time when your young ones are struggling with bolts god invented cheater bars.😁
Q the seat fittings through the floor did you use lock tight (red) .
Im a firm believer when working on cars or (buses) use lock tight red or blue for vibration and safety.
Anyhoo thankyou so much for sharing stay safe and stay well.
✌ Peace.
they used nylock nuts, no need for lock tight.
@@Peter195267 thanks man i couldn't see clearly on that bit . ✌
@@kevinhamling1963 your welcome.
Thanks, Kevin. No cheater bars for us - they have to learn young! LOL! She's surprisingly strong and got it done. And, yes Peter is correct, we did indeed use nylock nuts.
Nice work and by the way that seat is not going anywhere baby girl tighten the bolts up real good there's no need to put a torque wrench on it you guys be safe keep up the good work
Thanks, Timothy. She did a great job! She's really strong.
What is the width of the chairs? Great job. Thanks for the videos.
Thanks. Great Video interesting and enjoyable
Thank you
Great job What about the flooring,
Thanks, Steve. We will just cut the final flooring around the bases. We didn't want to secure the pedestals over floating floor (we will likely use a vinyl plank), so we will just work around them.
👍👌🇨🇦❤, it is all about being safe and functionality, nicely done
Thanks!
Nice seats and mechanism 🙂👍 does the shifter have to be there? Maybe it's difficult to reposition but it would be a lot easier for the rest of your life to spin the seats...
Thank you Yasin - We could move it somewhere else but it would be in the way pretty much anywhere. We considered putting it on the left near the wall but then we wouldn't be able to get to our electric panel in there and the parking brake is over there.
Hi Juan, nice work as always, you guys! I'm about to do our captains chairs soon as well. Can you link to those sliders? That could help me.
Sure. Here you go! amzn.to/3nMllwk Also, if you look in the description of each video, there will be an associated blog post where we always put links to any products or tools we used, so if you ever are looking for something specific, you can try there. If we missed something you're looking for, we are always happy to share. Good luck!
@@BeginningfromthisMorning thanks! I ordered two sets of these.
Hey guys. With a lot of intestinal fortitude and some stalwart resistance to temptation, I begrudgingly let your videos build up for 4 or 5 months so I could binge a lot of them at once again :) I just finished. Had to chime in with a quick comment now that I'm caught up. Congratulations on your progress so far. She really is starting to come together and looking really spiffy! Can't argue with any of your choices and decisions so far.
Juan - that dinger on your right shin looks like it may have been painful :) Also, really liked your solution a couple videos back for keeping the lead acid coach batteries topped off from the main Nissan Leaf battery pack.
I'm partial to the technical stuff for sure, but all aspects of the build are enjoyable and I really like to vicariously follow along with what you all are doing. And, from the closing still shots that reminded me, inadvertently seeing your kids grow up along the way :) Haha, I wasn't expecting that when I first started binge watching your channel over two years ago now.
Sorry if I missed it, but do you guys have an approximate "Launch Date" yet and plans for the first destinations and route of travel??
Cheers and Keep Up the Great Work!
Sev
Thanks, Sev. It's been a long process, as evidenced by the girls' pictures. Thanks for hanging in there with us. Our launch date is "as soon as we finish this dang bus". LOL! The route will mostly depend on weather and what's going on with all the COVID stuff at this point. We will likely stay on the west for at least a little bit to get our bearings before we head out super far away. We are inching our way toward being able to at least take a short shake-down trip, and we can't wait.
@@BeginningfromthisMorning Haha, I hear you. It's been a long, arduous ride, but you're in the closing laps now. It's got to be getting really exciting at this point! Thanks for the reply and that sounds like a great start-up plan. A short shakedown cruise is a sensible way to start for sure. Don't forget the fire extinguishers! :) Just kidding, I'm sure you won't need them. (But, bring them just to be safe)
On a side note: I'm building my first "battery backup generator" here soon. All Juan's intricate battery work way back when, planted the seed and I've been researching and saving for it for a while now. Batteries, inverter, charger and BMS have all been ordered in the last few days. It will be a LiFePO4, 8S, 24V, 280 Ah system to start, with a total capacity of 7.17 KWh. The 100A BMS will limit the output to 2400 W, but it's a 3000 W true sine wave inverter so it should have the headroom to pull that much if I ever have to - I won't! :) But, in theory, I'll be able to pull 300 W continuous for 24 hours, 100 W continuous for 3 days, 50 W continuous for 6 days, etc. Solar isn't in the budget yet, but it's expandable in all ways in the future.
Right now it will just be for power outage situations and of course, the experimental fun of it. I just wanted to thank you all for sharing your experience and getting me hooked on some cool new tech stuff! :)
Sev
Awesome
Thanks, Marchal. Hope you're doing well.
If you end up having to redo this Gokart throttle cables and stops might be stronger and last longer. Its stranded cable and would take the use better than non-stranded wire.
That is a great idea! Thank you!
The seats look great. This may be a silly question, but what year Sienna? Also, are these the second row seats? God Bless ya'll looks like you are doing a great job. We are refurbishing a 2000 Monaco Dynasty diesel pusher and are looking to follow your lead and apply many of the same upgrades.
Thank you Ed - I believe these particular seats are from a 2016 Sienna Limited. They are 2nd-row seats (the Limited part is what gets you the footrest option). I believe the Limited seats from 2011 through 2019 are all very similar and can be interchanged. Good luck with your build-out!
Great work as always. and how much the girls have grown up. Just something that popped up to my mind. the forward and backward adjuster in the passenger seat will be towards the stairs when you will be at camp sites and the chairs turned (i assume that will be most of the time and the most time the stairs will be in use). so wouldn't it be better to have them at the front so that they will be towards the stairs when your on the road and will be using the stairs less frequently??? just a thought.
Great thought about which way the chairs will be most of the time. I think you may be right. If it becomes a problem, we can pretty easily turn the sliders around. You've got me thinking! Thanks again!
Very nice job and great info. I am mounting Sienna seats (non foot-rest style) in my Ford van and this is really helpful. One question I have is regarding the seat bottom angle. It looks like if they are mounted level the front of the seat would be much higher than the rear, making the seating position too low in the rear. Did you find this to be an issue? Thanks!
Thank you - I did buy a "wedge" seat cushion to help "flatten" the dip that you are speaking of and I used it the first few times I drove the bus (just 5 miles to dump and fill the tanks) but the last few times I have driven without and did not find it too uncomfortable. I will know more when we actually start driving more (hopefully soon) and will report back. When I originally planned the driver's seat I was going to have it "Lift" in the rear about 3 or 4 inches but I didn't find a way to do it where the mechanics of the seat where not pretty messed up.
@@BeginningfromthisMorning Thanks for the reply. I'm putting four into my Econoline and I really appreciate the info in your video. It will make my build so much easier. Thanks again!
What exactly should people take note of in order to begin their search? I''m not married to my seats either. And I'm guessing where the seatbelt is located, and whether you have an electric chair or manual?
Thanks guys, great engineering once again, but don’t be sitting down on the job though😃🏴
LOL! We do enjoy a little rest in these chairs on our lunch breaks. :). But, then we quickly remember we actually have work to do and get back to it. Thanks for the encouragement!
You didn't want some big GMC Yukon seats ?
Juan can you provide the model year and seat package for the Siena seats? I am assuming they are second row seats? Do they have any lumbar adjustment and do the head rest tilt forward? Looking for better seats in my 2016 Sprinter 3500 and maybe for the back in the View RV. What do you think is a good price to pay for them?
Re watched the first seat video. Can you provide the details where you purchased?
HI Thomas. I think these were out of a 2016, but I believe these seats are the same from 2011-current, as long as they are specifically out of a Toyota Sienna Limited model second row seats. The other trim models like LE or SE do not have these specific seats with the footrests. If you look at the blog post from the first video (all of our videos have an associated blog post in the description with more details), we have the information on the seller there. I'll link it here for you. www.beginningfromthismorning.com/chair/ We paid $800 for the pair of seats. Unfortunately, they do not have lumbar adjustment and the headrests only move up and down, they do not tilt forward. But, the recline, footrest, and ability to remove them was a good fit for us. Hope that helps. Good luck on your project!
I would like to buy 1 mounting bracket. :)
I have a 2012 Sienna I would like to make front side passenger seat swivel. Any idea on how to do that
Doing the front seats is going to be much harder because they are usually electric and not designed to have the space to turn. Adding a swivel will also increase the height.
Where is Mexico did you get your bus painted. Can you send me the information in the comments I'm in Goodyear Arizona
Hi Tony - I got the bus painted in Naco, Mexico just south of Bisbee, AZ. The place was called "Taller de Carroceria y Pintura" it is a very small family run business. We give the full details including the contact info for the painter in our blog post: www.beginningfromthismorning.com/back_from_paint/
Gettin to be quite a welder there buddy!! You using fluxcore wire or gas. Hard to tell from the camera
Thank you Mitch - I really enjoy welding - it has opened up an entire world of possibilities for us! In the beginning we mostly did MIG but ran out of gas on a Saturday (turns out I was running A LOT of gas :S) and decided to give flux-core a try. I felt I could get much better penetration with flux-core (especially on these tiny 120V welders) so we have stuck with flux-core ever since. Most of the steel we weld is 1/8" to 3/16" so it is pretty forgiving. Michelle even complimented me on some of the welds on some of the more recent projects :)
I would URGE you to follow a RUclips channel called "Project Brupeg"... a small group refurbing an old (sunken) fishing trawler into an expedition and teaching ship. Like you, Juan, Damien is also a "tool whisperer" who's seems to be able to work with ANY tool with amazing proficiency.
AND, after "the bus" - will it/has it been named?? - is complete, you and your "boss" should head to Oz to meet them... just sayin... Cheers from Canada, hard by Georgian Bay, Ontario!!
Thanks for the recommendation. We will check it out - sounds super interesting! And, yes, the bus has already been named. Her name is Rocinante, the name of Don Quixote's old broken down horse that he imagines is his great and mighty steed that takes him on all his heroic adventures. It's one of our favorite books and felt quite appropriate for this old bus.
What year of a Sienna did this seat come out of?
Where in Mexico get to a bus payment. Can you send me the information in the comments
Read all the details here: www.beginningfromthismorning.com/back_from_paint/
Were you selling these bases
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25:45 Are those the same two girls? If so, my lord, they are growing. Better hurry up and get the bus on the road before they get a driver's license. As for the passenger side, front/back seat adjustor sticking out into the entry stairs - that adjustor will be in the way, one way or another. A question may be, will the passenger chair be pointing forward when the door is used most or toward the living area when the door is used most? I suspect the living area. Make an adapter to make it come out the side. You can do it. Otherwise, I would consider letting the adjustor stick out the front so that the person sitting in the chair can adjust the chair easier - perhaps the lesser of two evils.
Thanks, William. Yes, same girls - it has taken us a long time to which the pictures are evidence. Going as fast as we can! As far as the chair goes, the one on the passenger side probably won't need to use the forward and backward slider too often, which was why we felt okay having it in the back. The side of the couch will be behind the chair, so the adjuster doesn't really get in the way of anything thankfully. If we find that it's a problem, we will definitely look into making an adjustment to it. I'm sure you know as you are building your own bus, sometimes you have to make changes later. Thanks for the ideas.
Sell me 4 brackets please....I dont have a welder ...
I would like 1 bracket for our short bus. I wish someone would sell them.