Alessandra, I suspect you're putting more thought in your commentary than the two show runners put in their script. Their main goal was to not be writers anymore, they wanted to become movie producers. It's not good. ☹ There are not supposed to be any Istari in the second age, they appeared in the third age. Oh and Galadriel never went to Numenor, she never met Sauron, she has a husband, she is probably over 210 cm tall she's not short like Napoleon, the elven rings were created after the men's and dwarves' rings, mithril has nothing to do with the Silmarils, Numenoreans are "high men" all over 190 cm or taller, they don't use horses, there re no hobbits (or harfoots) in the 2nd age... so many things are wrong in the show. I don't think anything can be salvaged now, it's too late.
I'm well aware about all these things 😢 i remain vague about details and disappointment just in case someone wants to approach the books soon 💚🧝🏻♀️ i tried to save this show but i fail 💔 they failed US! 😔 Totally agree with you!!!
Those are mere details. The lore could have been destroyed and the show could still have been fun. But the show was slow, boring, nonsensical, the dialogues atrocious, the action scenes laughable, the sense of scale ridiculous, the management of time and distances appalling, the depiction of characters awful... should I go on???
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I agree with your analysis completely. The writers and producer created a show that simply was not consistent with Tolkien's world. I don't believe Tolkien would have written it. That is the real problem.
I gave up for this show after hear the cast and the showrunners insulting Tolkien, calling him machist and racist (one of them even hinted a relation with certain German regime from the XX century), or saying that they had wrote 'the novel Tolkien would have want to write'. A note about the wizards (Istari), they were sent to Middle Earth in the third age, none of them were present in the second age so, either they are breaking the lore with an Istar (which they could have done... again) when none should be, or it has only a bleak connection in the way of 'look, a Wizard, now you can remember Gandalf' with 100% no relation with him.
I’m pretty sure Tolkien refused to print in Nazi germany after they questioned whether he had Jewish ancestry to which I believe he replied "I know many fine Jews" and printed elsewhere, apologies for the bad paraphrasing. That being said, I don’t think we can apply our standards of a good person to his day and he likely had many qualities we would find distasteful by contemporary standards. Not to say he was a bad guy, in fact based on his representation of women in his writing he was likely progressive for the time; I just want to make sure you aren’t applying our morals to his time :) I also feel like the addition of the istari in the second age was one of the least awful things they changed (note I said least awful 😂). but apparently the show runners have been sidelined after s1 so hopefully the show will find its feet, I know that’s tough after S1 but I’m an optimistic guy sometimes and very forgiving when it comes to the first season a show 😅
@@SuperstarMcAwesomepants The ones suggesting Tolkien was a terrible person were the cast and the showrunners, not me, xD. I think he was human, so he had good things, and bad things, both for todays and his time standards. I agree that, in regards of broken lore by the showrunners, an Istar in the second age is the lesser sinner of all what they have broke, but I love chatting about lore :D Regarding the future, if they can produce a good show, I will be glad, even if they break some lore (PJ trilogy also breaks some lore and has its failures, and they are kind of fine even so). What I find a pity is the huge opportunity they have lost because of their ignorance, intolerance, arrogance, narrowed vision and almost null writing skills. The show visuals with a good story (prefirably something nearer to Tolkien's) and character development would have been epic for a lot of people.
Ciao sorella! I agree with your point of view. Viggo Mortensen says something similar about the caracter... The House of Dragón, respect more the original history. But that is for an other mention video... Saluti 😘
Hola Aless, me alegro mucho que estés haciendo lo que mas te gusta, pero cuando quieras y te quede bien me gustaria ver una reacción tuya a 11 episodios sinfónicos de Gustavo Cerati, saludos desde Argentina
Jennifer Salke head of Amazon Studios has a legal contract called an 'Inclusion Rider' with an organization named 'Annenberg Inclusion Initiative'. It not only dictates diverse hiring on the production crew and the casting choices but also impacts the content itself; how the characters are to interact based on identity politics categories. She (Salke) is required to make reports on her compliance to this agreement she has signed and is encouraged to consult with the organization while crafting all original content if any question of compliance is encountered. It's well worth reading the Annenberg Inclusion Initiative webpage if you actually want to know why ROP was retconned so horribly as to be unrecognizable as a Tolkien based story.
@@clownofthetimes6727 It's difficult from the outside to say much with confidence, but JJ and his wife have another more dastardly function in this power brokering front that has taken much of Hollywood by storm beyond simple compliance to woke dictates I think. The previous Head of Amazon Studios may have fallen afoul of them.
The show is heresy and Mor"mazon" has equavalently sacked the literary Osgiliath equivalent of Professor Tolkien's lore and story with season one, it is a descration of "history of the elvish speaking tongues..we defined our position in Exsurge Tolkien on our channel...the show is heresy.
Good points in the video. I guess the root problem was they wanted to inject topics and ideology that is not present in Tolkiens works, so they needed to twist the story and characters to insert them. Also they wanted to include popular names and concepts (like harfoots) for marketing purposes. Bottomline: the show is made for the wrong reasons
I really love your content. I hope you get to see Nazgol channel video about Galadriel! She reminds me of you. ❤️❤️❤️ you both showcase your elven blood in your demeanor. ❤️❤️❤️
@@AlessandraBonadonna I’d be pleased to hear what you thought after watching! ❤️❤️❤️❤️ the true female power is rising to protect Tolkien himself. I love it.
Hai alexandra B. Apa kabar,,saya selalu ingat reaksi anda, yg sangat emosional ,, di Godfather cover,,Alip ba ta,,kapan anda mereaksi karya ali ba ta lg? Semoga hari" anda sangat menyenang kan dn, sehat selalu 🙏 Alipers 🇮🇩
Bravo and we say u speak true! We called this in Exsurge Tolkien, since 25 March, now its a full apostasy of power, The evidence is clear, and none can deny that "ROP" is not of Tolkien. Our EXSURGE TOLKIEN that makes robustly clear the heresy of the showrunner's mouths and hearts. They probably know nothing of Tolkien's masterpiece, as evident from their interview in the Vanity Fair Article. For "they who proclaim to loveth Tolkien, yet understandeth, not his world view can neither hope to create a new film, show, or series of his secondary world." "Auta i lóme!" and" Aurë entuluva!"
@@NovRen19 i hope until the end they would redeem their strange choices...but last episode killed my hope 🥲 episode by episode it was just getting crazier 🤦♀️ you are right...they don't know nothing about Tolkien!!!
Remember #SaurGuyladriel is not a woman, a woman is human, SaurGuyladriel is an elf, an elf female, thus She must be declared She-Elf or Strong Female, get it right people....🧝♀️🤯
Por favor reacciona a Gustavo Cerati ccon Andy Summers "Traeme la noche" , Cerati con Bajofondo " el mareo" y las cancion solista de cerati crimen, tambien hay un vivo de Gustavo con Shakira( ella estaba completamente enamorada de el) pero solo se destaca Gustavo la cancion que cantan le quedo grande a ella, no te lo pierdas no te arrepentiras!!!
I find it hilarious that every race of every culture across the globe LOVED his books and yet somehow... the showrunners felt the need to change it and make it "more diverse" and more "equal" so everyone can be represented. Wtf? We all loved it based on the story. No one... and I mean NO ONE... gave a shit about the race or sex of the characters. We cared about how the characters were written. We loved the characters based on who they were as people. Which is why everyone... and again I mean EVERYONE... loved the books. Didn't matter where you come from or what demographic you fit into. There's was something for everyone to grow attached to. This show? Nah... there's nothing in it that I can get invested in.
there is no sense of journey, no epicness. most of the lore is distorted in a way that does not make sense. People teleport from one place of the map to the other in matter of days...they all seem to meet at the right place and time...the three rings never were about saving the elves nore about balancing one another. it simply is not Tolkienian stuff. And by god it's bo-ring! It doesn't even work as fan fiction. Fan fiction would at least be lore accurate. They wanted a Feanor figure but did not have it so they changed Galadriel to make her more Feanor-like. it saddens me...
Alessandra, I suspect you're putting more thought in your commentary than the two show runners put in their script. Their main goal was to not be writers anymore, they wanted to become movie producers. It's not good. ☹
There are not supposed to be any Istari in the second age, they appeared in the third age. Oh and Galadriel never went to Numenor, she never met Sauron, she has a husband, she is probably over 210 cm tall she's not short like Napoleon, the elven rings were created after the men's and dwarves' rings, mithril has nothing to do with the Silmarils, Numenoreans are "high men" all over 190 cm or taller, they don't use horses, there re no hobbits (or harfoots) in the 2nd age... so many things are wrong in the show. I don't think anything can be salvaged now, it's too late.
I'm well aware about all these things 😢 i remain vague about details and disappointment just in case someone wants to approach the books soon 💚🧝🏻♀️ i tried to save this show but i fail 💔 they failed US! 😔 Totally agree with you!!!
Those are mere details. The lore could have been destroyed and the show could still have been fun. But the show was slow, boring, nonsensical, the dialogues atrocious, the action scenes laughable, the sense of scale ridiculous, the management of time and distances appalling, the depiction of characters awful... should I go on???
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Hail Lady Alessandra "Defender of Men" and we welcome thy subcription to our channel and the world of Dor Vahdor. We have subscribed to thy channel as well and are thy ally hence forth. You bring light into these dark times with thy passion, truth, and love of story. peace be to u.
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I agree with your analysis completely. The writers and producer created a show that simply was not consistent with Tolkien's world. I don't believe Tolkien would have written it. That is the real problem.
Sadly true Greg 💔
I gave up for this show after hear the cast and the showrunners insulting Tolkien, calling him machist and racist (one of them even hinted a relation with certain German regime from the XX century), or saying that they had wrote 'the novel Tolkien would have want to write'. A note about the wizards (Istari), they were sent to Middle Earth in the third age, none of them were present in the second age so, either they are breaking the lore with an Istar (which they could have done... again) when none should be, or it has only a bleak connection in the way of 'look, a Wizard, now you can remember Gandalf' with 100% no relation with him.
Thank you for all your information Pablo 🙏🏻 this is so sad! 😢
I’m pretty sure Tolkien refused to print in Nazi germany after they questioned whether he had Jewish ancestry to which I believe he replied "I know many fine Jews" and printed elsewhere, apologies for the bad paraphrasing. That being said, I don’t think we can apply our standards of a good person to his day and he likely had many qualities we would find distasteful by contemporary standards. Not to say he was a bad guy, in fact based on his representation of women in his writing he was likely progressive for the time; I just want to make sure you aren’t applying our morals to his time :) I also feel like the addition of the istari in the second age was one of the least awful things they changed (note I said least awful 😂). but apparently the show runners have been sidelined after s1 so hopefully the show will find its feet, I know that’s tough after S1 but I’m an optimistic guy sometimes and very forgiving when it comes to the first season a show 😅
@@SuperstarMcAwesomepants The ones suggesting Tolkien was a terrible person were the cast and the showrunners, not me, xD. I think he was human, so he had good things, and bad things, both for todays and his time standards.
I agree that, in regards of broken lore by the showrunners, an Istar in the second age is the lesser sinner of all what they have broke, but I love chatting about lore :D
Regarding the future, if they can produce a good show, I will be glad, even if they break some lore (PJ trilogy also breaks some lore and has its failures, and they are kind of fine even so). What I find a pity is the huge opportunity they have lost because of their ignorance, intolerance, arrogance, narrowed vision and almost null writing skills. The show visuals with a good story (prefirably something nearer to Tolkien's) and character development would have been epic for a lot of people.
Ciao sorella! I agree with your point of view. Viggo Mortensen says something similar about the caracter...
The House of Dragón, respect more the original history. But that is for an other mention video...
Saluti 😘
I still didn't see House of Dragon 🙏🏻 i will make a video reaction while i'm watching it maybe 🥰
Hola Aless, me alegro mucho que estés haciendo lo que mas te gusta, pero cuando quieras y te quede bien me gustaria ver una reacción tuya a 11 episodios sinfónicos de Gustavo Cerati, saludos desde Argentina
è sempre bello vederti :):)
Jennifer Salke head of Amazon Studios has a legal contract called an 'Inclusion Rider' with an organization named 'Annenberg Inclusion Initiative'. It not only dictates diverse hiring on the production crew and the casting choices but also impacts the content itself; how the characters are to interact based on identity politics categories. She (Salke) is required to make reports on her compliance to this agreement she has signed and is encouraged to consult with the organization while crafting all original content if any question of compliance is encountered. It's well worth reading the Annenberg Inclusion Initiative webpage if you actually want to know why ROP was retconned so horribly as to be unrecognizable as a Tolkien based story.
Thank you so much for this interesting information Kory 🙏🏻 i didn't know and i'm pretty curious now to go and read about it! 😘
JJ Abrams is also a member. The plot thickens!
@@clownofthetimes6727 It's difficult from the outside to say much with confidence, but JJ and his wife have another more dastardly function in this power brokering front that has taken much of Hollywood by storm beyond simple compliance to woke dictates I think. The previous Head of Amazon Studios may have fallen afoul of them.
The show is heresy and Mor"mazon" has equavalently sacked the literary Osgiliath equivalent of Professor Tolkien's lore and story with season one, it is a descration of "history of the elvish speaking tongues..we defined our position in Exsurge Tolkien on our channel...the show is heresy.
Do you have a source for this information? I'd really like to read into it.
Hola hermosa te extraño me gustaría de música en español soy de mexico
harry potter is going to be in the second series to help 'not gandalf'
Ahahahahahah
Thats hilarious!
You are much too kind.
Good points in the video. I guess the root problem was they wanted to inject topics and ideology that is not present in Tolkiens works, so they needed to twist the story and characters to insert them. Also they wanted to include popular names and concepts (like harfoots) for marketing purposes. Bottomline: the show is made for the wrong reasons
I really love your content. I hope you get to see Nazgol channel video about Galadriel! She reminds me of you. ❤️❤️❤️ you both showcase your elven blood in your demeanor. ❤️❤️❤️
Thank you so much Makkaru 🥰 i will!!!
@@AlessandraBonadonna I’d be pleased to hear what you thought after watching! ❤️❤️❤️❤️ the true female power is rising to protect Tolkien himself. I love it.
@@Makkaru112 i saw it and i loved her!!! She truly said what it was right to be said ❤️ thank you for your suggestion! 🧝🏻♀️💚
Hai alexandra B. Apa kabar,,saya selalu ingat reaksi anda, yg sangat emosional ,, di Godfather cover,,Alip ba ta,,kapan anda mereaksi karya ali ba ta lg? Semoga hari" anda sangat menyenang kan dn, sehat selalu 🙏 Alipers 🇮🇩
You asked when did the showrunners lose the plot?
Answer: These are arrogant Hollywood Americans- they never had the plot to begin with!
Sadly agree 🤦♀️
@@AlessandraBonadonna Amazon's mistake was hiring Simon Tolkien and firing Tom Shippey!
Bravo and we say u speak true! We called this in Exsurge Tolkien, since 25 March, now its a full apostasy of power, The evidence is clear, and none can deny that "ROP" is not of Tolkien. Our EXSURGE TOLKIEN that makes robustly clear the heresy of the showrunner's mouths and hearts. They probably know nothing of Tolkien's masterpiece, as evident from their interview in the Vanity Fair Article. For "they who proclaim to loveth Tolkien, yet understandeth, not his world view can neither hope to create a new film, show, or series of his secondary world." "Auta i lóme!" and" Aurë entuluva!"
@@odin741 among so many other terrible things.
@@NovRen19 i hope until the end they would redeem their strange choices...but last episode killed my hope 🥲 episode by episode it was just getting crazier 🤦♀️ you are right...they don't know nothing about Tolkien!!!
WARRIOR GALADRIEL!! 🗡💪😏
Remember #SaurGuyladriel is not a woman, a woman is human, SaurGuyladriel is an elf, an elf female, thus She must be declared She-Elf or Strong Female, get it right people....🧝♀️🤯
Por favor reacciona a Gustavo Cerati ccon Andy Summers "Traeme la noche" , Cerati con Bajofondo " el mareo" y las cancion solista de cerati crimen, tambien hay un vivo de Gustavo con Shakira( ella estaba completamente enamorada de el) pero solo se destaca Gustavo la cancion que cantan le quedo grande a ella, no te lo pierdas no te arrepentiras!!!
I find it hilarious that every race of every culture across the globe LOVED his books and yet somehow... the showrunners felt the need to change it and make it "more diverse" and more "equal" so everyone can be represented. Wtf? We all loved it based on the story. No one... and I mean NO ONE... gave a shit about the race or sex of the characters. We cared about how the characters were written. We loved the characters based on who they were as people. Which is why everyone... and again I mean EVERYONE... loved the books. Didn't matter where you come from or what demographic you fit into. There's was something for everyone to grow attached to. This show? Nah... there's nothing in it that I can get invested in.
Thank you for your opinion Dane 😘
Hellooo Aleee
Puedes reaccionar a : what You need - live de Inxs?
made a video about the Pentamerone
there is no sense of journey, no epicness. most of the lore is distorted in a way that does not make sense. People teleport from one place of the map to the other in matter of days...they all seem to meet at the right place and time...the three rings never were about saving the elves nore about balancing one another.
it simply is not Tolkienian stuff.
And by god it's bo-ring! It doesn't even work as fan fiction. Fan fiction would at least be lore accurate.
They wanted a Feanor figure but did not have it so they changed Galadriel to make her more Feanor-like.
it saddens me...
Sadly agreed!!! Thank you for sharing your opinion with me 🥰
@@AlessandraBonadonna thanks to you for the quality content!
why don't you react Alip Ba Ta again
Hola bella mujer , te recomiendo el vídeo de colplay tocando temas de soda en Argentina junto a Charly y z . Un gran beso desde Argentina 🇦🇷 .
Cast it into the fire! Destroy it!