Good morning Keith, When you were tugging hard on that dull tap, I thought I saw your building rotate a few degrees. Glad you had a sharp tap to finish the job. Merry Christmas to you and your family.
There is just something magical and relaxing about watching threads being cut. Thanks for showing us most of the process, Keith! And I'm really excited to know that the next time we see this mill project, you'll be putting it all together. Another long series, and a another big, old machine, complete.
Another great video, Keith. It would be interesting to watch you sharpen the dull tap. That looks like it would be well within your wheelhouse. Watching you forge a square head onto a big bolt when you need one for a project would also be interesting.
Wow you were so close to the chuck. Absolutly amazing, it's great to see it coming along, perfect fit by the nats, on those bolts and nuts, tremendous job. I would love to see the first use, or the use of it in the future, that would be beautifull. Have a great day Keith and I look forward to your next video on the Monster cane mill.
Yep - I was thinking, if it's THAT tough to turn, using those long tap wrench arms and Keith's strength, there's maybe a chance of shearing the teeth off that 1&1/4" tap!
I made about 6 of these bolts threading round stock then drilling a counter sink hole in square stock and welding the head onto the round stock. Worked good.
13:45 ... Those big taps are pretty easy to sharpen!! .. Just grind a wheel to the same RADIUS, as the FLUTES are ... and sharpen in like anything else!
@@ellieprice363and since this is a plug tap not a taper or starter tap the wheel needs to be angled sharply in relation to the gullet, why didn't he have a starter tap for that size? Send it off to Steve Summers so he can make a video of sharpening it, maybe he can make a starter tap of it so Keith has one in the size. Also, hats off to Keith for using a plug tap that large by hand, thats the way to build some muscle.
I agree about the lock nuts being square. Chances are they will be using adjustable wrenches which would do both, but the square head would be less likely to be rounded over like adjustable wrenches tend to do to hex-nuts. Acetics after all of your work would tend to just it look period correct. It is looking and all you need is some sorgum cane to run through and then boil the juice down into syrup to put on your pancakes.
That is a threader allright. wow. Mr. Rucker is use to having another ~30lbs to throw into that. ;-) Still, impressive to see uncle manhandle that. The interrupted cutter was the tool for that job for sure. Work smart, not hard. If at all possible ;-)
All the tapping experts..wow. Surprised I didn't see "Why not send them to Adam and let him use his Flexarm". LOL. While I do get there is more than one way to skin a cat (or tap a hole), he picked this, probably thinking "It's 4, and probably faster to do it on the bench". When I was doing machine building we tapped all our holes by hand. HUNDREDS of holes were done by hand, anything from 10-32 to 2-1/2" - 4 was done by hand (largest I ever had to tap). All done by hand...is what it is.
There are armchair experts on every maker channel on youtube. I usually ignore them, because most of the time if you ask them to make a video of them doing it their way, they cannot.
@@lerkzor Oh I know. I am a 100% certified HACK. LOL. At least I admit it. I know enough to be super dangerous. That said, I have learned a TON of things from these channels that I have used when trying to do some things around the house. Little tips/tricks that are so obvious, yet so 'why didn't I think of that'. :)
@lurkzor....knowing how to do video editing has little bearing on knowledge on machine tools. It is a logical fallacy to think that not knowing or having the desire to create videos would make their other expertise null and void.
@@TgWags69 It goes back to "Put up or shut up". That's what we said back 40 years ago. Show me, don't tell me. Lots of people "know" how to do things, but when they are asked to actually do said task? NOPE. Can't do it. I have a whopping THREE videos on my channel...all back when I built a 3D printer. I did this because I was trying to show a friend what these things did. It was a cell phone video I uploaded to YT. Took me seconds to do. Nobody is asking for "Video Editing". Shoot it in one, and upload it. Even if it's 90 minutes long. LOTS of people started that way. Now then, I agree, video editing isn't easy, at least not for me. It really is why I don't even pretend to try a RUclips channel properly, that and I have a face for radio, and a voice for the silent monks. LOL...
@@TgWags69 What? Dude, if you can't press the 'record' button on your phone ... and the 'cannot' in my comment is because they are not (in this case) machinists .. or in the case of my late friend from Tucson, gardeners. People would visit his place, see his garden, and then proceed to give him advice on gardening. His response was golden: He would politely listen, ponder for a moment, and then ask if he could come over and see their garden. INVARIABLY they would go "MY garden? I don't have a garden."
I would be tempted to single point those nut threads. Since both bolt and nut are needed, I am also surprised that no suitable pair can be purchased; specific threads are not then needed.
Nice video as always Keith! A couple of questions as l have very limited machining experience, can taps be resharpened and could the internal threads have been cut on a lathe?
Great video, Keith! A question about the order of operations: would it have been easier to drill the entire piece of metal, then cut the individual nuts apart rather than drilling and cutting off one at a time? Are you concerned about the drill bit deflecting as you go deeper? Just wondering - thank you.
Actually that can be done on a surface grinder but is better sent to Steve Summers who has a tool and cutter grinder, a more appropriate tooling choice. It just needs the gullet resurfaced and although a dremel type grinder with speeds over 10,000 can do the job; holding everything in relation to the other to only remove what is needed for sharpening -and not the cutting parts which would dull it faster than you can say idiot tools.
Very nice work. Just a couple of questions, one trivia, one slightly more serious. 1. What is the longest chip you got off of a piece? I noticed on the third turn through on the threading the cip was virtually all the way to the end. 2. What do you and other turners do with all your chips? 😊
Large taps like that can be sharpened by hand, in just a few minutes. Throwing them out if they are not chipped is costly, especially if you are the one paying for the new one. Even if chipped still worth saving for chasing rusty threads, saving the costly new tap.@@mikewatson4644
Mr Rucker, I'm surprised that you opted to cut the threads by eye, and not use the facility of the boring machine to ensure that is was vertical. Any particular reason for that? Even I, as a modeller, use my mill to help me cut threads... Best wishes for the Festive Season from me and the wife in East Anglia - England's farming county.
I've made several tapping blocks with clearance for the tap to start it dead straight. I think that would help quite a bit in starting the threads. I think inch diameter threads are the largest I've used. I generally do twice the tap diameter to keep them straight. Those nuts came out pretty nicely all told.
Skill, muscle memory, quick draw style or method does require skill so make a lot of some size bolt. I would say around 25 at a time with 4 cycles will do the job of training your muscle memory, and sharpening for reflexes... speed the RPMs each cycle if you have a CV motor. Each bolts usually takes 8-12 passes on the larger ones like 3/4 -10, and only 5-7 on the very small ones like 10-24
Many more than have a 1 1/8 tap, but levity aside, most jobshops and the folks working the jobshop circuit have some of the oddest tools you can imagine, many trade tools actively with other Machinist Types and Maintainence types every Sunday after lunch or at fishing camps etc.
Why not single point thread it slightly undersize and just finish it with the tap? Would keep the thread straight and would be easy to turn the tap just to skim it out to final size
Good suggestion as a lot of machinist would do it that way, but with many different ways to do a job . take your choice on what's best for you at the time.
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Looking good Keith. If those lock nuts on the outside are going to be a part of the mill I would probably make them square as well.
Good morning Keith,
When you were tugging hard on that dull tap, I thought I saw your building rotate a few degrees.
Glad you had a sharp tap to finish the job.
Merry Christmas to you and your family.
There is just something magical and relaxing about watching threads being cut. Thanks for showing us most of the process, Keith! And I'm really excited to know that the next time we see this mill project, you'll be putting it all together. Another long series, and a another big, old machine, complete.
Very pleasant to watch large stock being threaded.
I remember watching your channel back when you acquired that four jaw scroll chuck!
It's scary cutting that aggressive thread right up to the chuck. One mistake spells disaster. Glad it was you and not me doing this. Good job!
Another great video, Keith. It would be interesting to watch you sharpen the dull tap. That looks like it would be well within your wheelhouse. Watching you forge a square head onto a big bolt when you need one for a project would also be interesting.
You make it look so easy. Your process is seamless. Thank you
It’s getting close to completion, it’s going to be a historic beauty!
Great video!! .. And the hand made nuts and bolts look just like the originals would have!!
Can't wait to see it all assembled.
Wow you were so close to the chuck. Absolutly amazing, it's great to see it coming along, perfect fit by the nats, on those bolts and nuts, tremendous job. I would love to see the first use, or the use of it in the future, that would be beautifull. Have a great day Keith and I look forward to your next video on the Monster cane mill.
Fantastic job on those square nuts and bolts Professor.
Awesomeness Extreme!
That lettering looks crisp against the background paint on that thing!
It would be great if you could show a short video of the Monster Cane Mill crushing cane at some point.
Nice Job Keith. I know the first tap was giving you trouble when I saw a vice of that size move a little. Really nice work!
Yep - I was thinking, if it's THAT tough to turn, using those long tap wrench arms and Keith's strength, there's maybe a chance of shearing the teeth off that 1&1/4" tap!
Just love watching, missing job shop work like I do, your videos soothe my manual machinist soul. 😊
I made about 6 of these bolts threading round stock then drilling a counter sink hole in square stock and welding the head onto the round stock. Worked good.
That's looking really nice Keith!
13:45 ... Those big taps are pretty easy to sharpen!! .. Just grind a wheel to the same RADIUS, as the FLUTES are ... and sharpen in like anything else!
Nah....viewers will have sent 20 of them by the next time he needs one. He's like Mr. Pete...just throw it away cuz he has too much.
It’s not so easy to dress a wheel to the same radius as the flutes but it can be done.
@@ellieprice363and since this is a plug tap not a taper or starter tap the wheel needs to be angled sharply in relation to the gullet, why didn't he have a starter tap for that size? Send it off to Steve Summers so he can make a video of sharpening it, maybe he can make a starter tap of it so Keith has one in the size. Also, hats off to Keith for using a plug tap that large by hand, thats the way to build some muscle.
This is shaping up !!
It's funny when the "new model" is 100 years old.
Thank you Keith!
Single point threading is so mesmerizing.
Nice job Keith, that will work.
I agree about the lock nuts being square. Chances are they will be using adjustable wrenches which would do both, but the square head would be less likely to be rounded over like adjustable wrenches tend to do to hex-nuts. Acetics after all of your work would tend to just it look period correct.
It is looking and all you need is some sorgum cane to run through and then boil the juice down into syrup to put on your pancakes.
I am really looking forward for the assembly video.
Thank you for an enjoyable video, amazing how you manage to exactly find the start of the thread each time you make a cut, mesmerising.
That’s what the threading dial is for, and the half nut. The lathe takes care of most of it.
Outstanding work and amazing item to view built. :)
ALWAYS INTERESTING, LOVE THE CHANNEL
Looking good like always
Very nice work, Thanks.
So close to finish!
Nice job 👍😎
Thanks Keith
Nice job!!
Love your work! Great job!
Great job.
Ahhh, Nuts!
That is a threader allright. wow. Mr. Rucker is use to having another ~30lbs to throw into that. ;-)
Still, impressive to see uncle manhandle that. The interrupted cutter was the tool for that job for sure.
Work smart, not hard. If at all possible ;-)
Good result.
All the tapping experts..wow. Surprised I didn't see "Why not send them to Adam and let him use his Flexarm". LOL. While I do get there is more than one way to skin a cat (or tap a hole), he picked this, probably thinking "It's 4, and probably faster to do it on the bench". When I was doing machine building we tapped all our holes by hand. HUNDREDS of holes were done by hand, anything from 10-32 to 2-1/2" - 4 was done by hand (largest I ever had to tap). All done by hand...is what it is.
There are armchair experts on every maker channel on youtube. I usually ignore them, because most of the time if you ask them to make a video of them doing it their way, they cannot.
@@lerkzor Oh I know. I am a 100% certified HACK. LOL. At least I admit it. I know enough to be super dangerous. That said, I have learned a TON of things from these channels that I have used when trying to do some things around the house. Little tips/tricks that are so obvious, yet so 'why didn't I think of that'. :)
@lurkzor....knowing how to do video editing has little bearing on knowledge on machine tools. It is a logical fallacy to think that not knowing or having the desire to create videos would make their other expertise null and void.
@@TgWags69 It goes back to "Put up or shut up". That's what we said back 40 years ago. Show me, don't tell me. Lots of people "know" how to do things, but when they are asked to actually do said task? NOPE. Can't do it.
I have a whopping THREE videos on my channel...all back when I built a 3D printer. I did this because I was trying to show a friend what these things did. It was a cell phone video I uploaded to YT. Took me seconds to do. Nobody is asking for "Video Editing". Shoot it in one, and upload it. Even if it's 90 minutes long. LOTS of people started that way.
Now then, I agree, video editing isn't easy, at least not for me. It really is why I don't even pretend to try a RUclips channel properly, that and I have a face for radio, and a voice for the silent monks. LOL...
@@TgWags69 What? Dude, if you can't press the 'record' button on your phone ... and the 'cannot' in my comment is because they are not (in this case) machinists .. or in the case of my late friend from Tucson, gardeners.
People would visit his place, see his garden, and then proceed to give him advice on gardening. His response was golden: He would politely listen, ponder for a moment, and then ask if he could come over and see their garden. INVARIABLY they would go "MY garden? I don't have a garden."
A lot of extra effort went into making nuts that will never be seen again. :)
I seem to recall that those kinds of one off special hardware items are called sparklers! Cheers Keith!
Nuts!
ABom and his FlexArm is what comes to mind. Buy you, sir, are dedicated.
Thank you.
Happy Wednesday Keith!😊⚙️🛠🚂👍👍👍👍✌️
Thank you!!!
Maybe see a video of this crushing cane again one day.
Nice 😊
Always a jot watching you work. I was afraid tapping those nuts would be too much. Merry Christmas to you and your family!
Nice
That was a big tap that you were using to cut those threads
No gym required for Keith tonight after hand cutting those threads.
11:03 I make the threads, by using a stand drill to hold the shaft in the axis. It could probably be done using a lathe.
When you are starting the big taps use a sprung centre in the radial drill to keep everything straight.
Beautiful work, Keith.
I would be tempted to single point those nut threads. Since both bolt and nut are needed, I am also surprised that no suitable pair can be purchased; specific threads are not then needed.
Oil grooves in the babbit material?
Bingo, he did not mention it this time, maybe he has already shot the video on it and is yet to post it.
NICE JOB
Jam and and a brass washer.
I was noticing that you are using hex nuts for the jam nuts. Would that be period correct for the mill, or is that temporary for this video?
Did Keith get a video editor recently? I don't ever remember chapters on the playbar and the cuts/transitions seem different too.
Good morning Keith! Looking forward to the reassembly. Thanks
Here's a comment for your analytics: greetings from Lithonia.
Looking good
Nice video as always Keith!
A couple of questions as l have very limited machining experience, can taps be resharpened and could the internal threads have been cut on a lathe?
Yes, and yes.
Keith, taps are easy to sharpen, especially large taps with their big grooves. I never toss unless broken.
Great video, Keith! A question about the order of operations: would it have been easier to drill the entire piece of metal, then cut the individual nuts apart rather than drilling and cutting off one at a time? Are you concerned about the drill bit deflecting as you go deeper? Just wondering - thank you.
You could have power tapped them on ur Carlton , it will easily tap that , we had one at work and did 3 inch pipe tap on it saves the labor !
Just invest in Morse taper tap holders 1 1/4 like butter
Make a video Sharpening the tap using the surface grinder ??
Actually that can be done on a surface grinder but is better sent to Steve Summers who has a tool and cutter grinder, a more appropriate tooling choice. It just needs the gullet resurfaced and although a dremel type grinder with speeds over 10,000 can do the job; holding everything in relation to the other to only remove what is needed for sharpening -and not the cutting parts which would dull it faster than you can say idiot tools.
If you had kept that first tap in you could have skipped the gym that night. 😁
Very nice work.
Just a couple of questions, one trivia, one slightly more serious.
1. What is the longest chip you got off of a piece? I noticed on the third turn through on the threading the cip was virtually all the way to the end.
2. What do you and other turners do with all your chips? 😊
They send the chips to Britain. We can't get enough of them!
But they supply their own fish, Cod I believe.
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I'm not a machinist. I am wondering how are successive passes of thread cutting all synchronized to the same place?
You can charge people to "workout" at your gym. Manual tapping... moving heavy stuff...
At about 27:00 you state that you are going to take another .005". Is that off of the diameter or DOC?
Shouldn't the tip of bolt be domed, like indentation where it fits?
Nice work
Hello Keith 👍.
Thank you for sharing.👍
And .. question .. do the flats on the thread diameter not really matter ..no big deal ?😀
Can taps be shrarpened?
They are sharpened when they are made. If they are sharpened once, it can be done again - with the right equipment
Large taps like that can be sharpened by hand, in just a few minutes. Throwing them out if they are not chipped is costly, especially if you are the one paying for the new one. Even if chipped still worth saving for chasing rusty threads, saving the costly new tap.@@mikewatson4644
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Mr Rucker, I'm surprised that you opted to cut the threads by eye, and not use the facility of the boring machine to ensure that is was vertical. Any particular reason for that? Even I, as a modeller, use my mill to help me cut threads... Best wishes for the Festive Season from me and the wife in East Anglia - England's farming county.
take the nuts down to ABOM to use the flex arm tapping machine
I've made several tapping blocks with clearance for the tap to start it dead straight. I think that would help quite a bit in starting the threads. I think inch diameter threads are the largest I've used. I generally do twice the tap diameter to keep them straight. Those nuts came out pretty nicely all told.
How would you do that internal threading with a single point tool?
How do you stop the threading tool at the right position everytime without crashing? Is there some trick to it or is it just skill?
Skill, muscle memory, quick draw style or method does require skill so make a lot of some size bolt. I would say around 25 at a time with 4 cycles will do the job of training your muscle memory, and sharpening for reflexes... speed the RPMs each cycle if you have a CV motor. Each bolts usually takes 8-12 passes on the larger ones like 3/4 -10, and only 5-7 on the very small ones like 10-24
Thanks
Doesn't that mill need some sort of sheet metal infeed hopper with curved brass shoes?
I share with you a dislike of painting. But the red looks great, unlike most of my jobs 🙂
How many shops have a spare 1 1/4" tap?
Many more than have a 1 1/8 tap, but levity aside, most jobshops and the folks working the jobshop circuit have some of the oddest tools you can imagine, many trade tools actively with other Machinist Types and Maintainence types every Sunday after lunch or at fishing camps etc.
What type of steel is best for bolts?
Why not single point thread it slightly undersize and just finish it with the tap? Would keep the thread straight and would be easy to turn the tap just to skim it out to final size
Good suggestion as a lot of machinist would do it that way, but with many different ways to do a job . take your choice on what's best for you at the time.
Looks like there is a lot of backlash in the compound nut.
I know it's not mentioned but it would be interesting to know the cost of this restoration.
17:40 Typical Keith almost injuring himself by being careless. 🤨
HI, all those fancy machines and we are tapping by hand? need some exercise I guess.😁
I know very little about it, but why not just start out with round stock??