This man owned what he did, explained it as best he could, and was honest. He said, “I don’t have the right (to speak to the families)”. No grandiosity. Nothing cagey. Just a compulsion to do what excited him more than anything else in his life. It is horrific and evil, but nothing complicated.
Agreed because if he did give an apology the families and all of us would have dismissed it as not heart felt or him really meaning it. He actually did explain why he did it. He is person that is void of emotion or loving. I don't think he really loved anyone in his life ever. I think he cared for his own wife and child but caring is because he knew them. Everyone else around him is an object and that's it.
Haha what about piers crimes of interfering with police investigation into a missing and the dead girl. He hacked her cell phone to listen to the voicemails that her desperate parents had left, then deleted them to make more space so that more messages could be left. SICK fool
Well he's in jail. What's the point of lying at this point? Notoriety and fame, and media presence is the only fresh aspect about his mundane life. Might as well make the most of it.
My best friend and I got everywhere by hitchhiker. One day, unbeknownst to us we were picked off by a sheriff in an unmarked vehicle. He started acting all creepy and we decided to jump out of the car. No door handles! When he decided we were sufficiently terrified he showed us his badge and took us home to our parents. God bless that man for teaching us a lesson that may well have saved our lives!
Back in the day lots of teenagers and young adults would hitchhike. It was a more trusting time in America. You never thought about the creeps out there too much. But it was so common for a kid who needed a lift to just as we'd say " thumb it". I even remember my Dad picking up a guy in his Navy sailor uniform who was stranded on the side of the highway. I thought it was weird as a little kid to pick up a stranger even if he was in the service. But Dad was a WW2 vet and probably felt sorry for the poor sailor. Sorry off topic but you never see hitchhikers anymore and that's probably a good thing
Sounds more like the cop tried something with you and was afraid of his image when you guys fled. So he gave a story about 'scaring you'. Because it would have been much easier just to tell you.
I was hoping to hear more about that imprinting, what it felt like as a six year old boy, how that happened in more detail. I dislike how Morgan interviews people, putting words in their mouths, making assumptions about how they must feel, instead of asking questions which allow them to talk in their own words with their own thoughts.
When I was 15, on a Saturday night in December, I decided to walk up to the corner store. On the way to the store, I saw a little dark blue car drive by and when I left store and started back home, as I walked up my street, along came the same car. The guy asked me to get in. I said no. He kept asking and I kept walking. Finally, he ordered me into his car. I thought I could run and make it to my house. At just that moment, my brother drove up and called out to me. That guy took off like a bolt. I believe God was protecting me. Don't know what might have happened if brother hadn't come along.
@@SyracuseIsOranges is that the person you really wanna be seen as? Instead of acknowledging someone escaping a dangerous situation, you'd rather tell them their perspective is wrong? Not a good look
@@SyracuseIsOrangesGod IS real. He gave us free choice. Some use their free will to do unspeakable evil. There are many mysteries about why things happen to different people. Cold Case Christianity is an excellent channel to discover the realness of God. Those of us who study scripture and end time prophecy see how accurate current events fit perfectly into what was predicted thousands of years ago but more important is to understand our souls are eternal. There are only 2 default destinations we will go to forever one second after we die......we chose according to free will.
@@SyracuseIsOrangespeople have free will. God likely gave her brother a spiritual nudge and her brother went down that street then maybe not even realizing the nudge came from God. God gives many “nudges” if we have discernment we can have better ability to react to them. God doesn’t take away free will, however. So the evil people make evil choices. He doesn’t take control of them or anyone. Free will.
Giles murdered my co-worker and friend, Paula Hamric. She hitch hiked from Orlando to Titusville twice a month to visit her 2 little boys. I told her please don't do that! She told me that was the only way she could afford to go see her boys. She was always confident that she would be safe.
I’m 63 and my teen friends always hitch hiked , I said no way. One day they ran away from a perv who picked them up. Never hitch hiked again. Great interview Piers!
I'm 55 and hitch hiked with my friend in the late 80s. We got picked up my a couple in an expensive looking black car, the man was in a suit and the woman was wearing a lot of jewelry and a fur coat. We thought we were safe. As we were driving along, a ziploc bag filled with white powder started to appear, sliding out from under the driver's seat at my feet in the back seat. I remember thinking it could be a bad situation if they knew we seen it so I pushed it back under the seat with my foot 😂 They dropped us off at our destination and nothing happened but that was crazy at the time..lol
Yea, Im 61 born in 63. I thumbed rides as a preteen up till my late teens. I'm straight ( not gay }, and I saw things no good boy should ever see. As an older healthy man, ( still not gay, } It sends a shiver up my spine thinking about those things. And I can honestly say I will take those images burnt in my memory forever to my grave and probably into the after life. You really don't need to know those things. Don't Hitchhike. For the love of God don't hitchhike.
This prisoner, is the most honest serial killer, I've ever seen. I understand what he means when he says, What do I say to the families? I would't care what a person said who killed a member of my family. It would just make me angry.
Same here. I think he has more understanding of that than Peirse or the guy talking about him. I also think he feels shame more than they credit him with. Not saying he shouldn't die in prison, he should.
I agree with you 100%. He didn't want to apologize to the families because it would've been disingenuous. You can tell he has spent a lot of time trying to dissect his thoughts and feelings and actions. His honesty to himself is what I found most impressive, he actually owns his deeds, he doesn't try to excuse his actions or blame anything or anyone else. He must have one helluva therapist...
He said he killed only women who were objects to him. That one came close with him and he responded with love. This man is not cold. He is unique. Dangerous killer ofcourse but a human being. That is even more chilling. Anybody could be him!
Excellent interview! I was a 1st grade girl in Pensacola, FL, in 1974, when I walked a shortcut home because I stayed too long at my friend's house. A man in a Nova type car pulled over to offer me a lift. I said "no thank you," as my mother taught me, but he started to approach me. I yelled, "FIRE!" repeatedly and started running. He jumpped back into his car and sped off. My mother taught me that no one comes if you yell "help," but they will if you yell "fire." She was right. The neighbors came straight away to investigate. With all the serial killer shows I watch, I think how close I may have come to danger that day.
Thanks for the reminder!!.I don't know if I would have remembered that I learned it so long ago!! I'm at an age where I couldn't fight off an attacker- gotta be smarter!!
When he was asked if he was loved as a child, if you watch his body language, you can see he didn't really say yes. I wonder what happened to him growing up.
I agree I actually respected his explanation more than I have respected some fake Apologies from other killers. The fact they pushed him to apologize when he knows it means nothing is kind of immature.
How do you apologize for something SO terrible?! He makes a good point. There's nothing he CAN say. There are no words that could even come close to being the comfort that those who loved those girls would need. Nothing.
10000000% true. It will be almost insulting coming after and telling to the families “I’m sorry” that doesn’t mean anything. Most probably he is already working on that internally and that’s what’s matter.
Perfect reply. The former criminal profiler does not seem to understand that. For the killer, he realizes that there’s nothing to say that will make the families feel any better. It also seems as though he is not sorry for what he did, so apologizing would be dishonest.
exactly that’s exactly what i got from him! i actually made a comment stating the same, it’s not that he’s not sorry it’s that he thinks and knows his “sorry” it’s worthless
I never hitch hiked but was walking home on a desolate highway in 1983/4 and almost abducted. He started off pleading to let him give me a ride, I shouldn't be out there alone, etc. I could not see his face, voice was kind and worried. Thought he might have been someone I knew, did a lot of babysitting and sometimes a Dad would see us walking and give us a ride. Tired after 3 miles and a long hill climb. A voice in my head said "do NOT get in this car". Swamp on one side, huge embankment on the other. Calmly refused the ride until I see it was about 50 feet before I could clear the swamp and bolt through a cornfield. Once I ran, his whole tune changed and he began yelling what he was going to do to me, obscenities, etc. Not athletic, but I ran for my life and he came into my subdivision. I dodged behind garages while he stalked me, had to hold my breath because it was cold and he would see the steam. Got in my house with only a minute to spare before he saw where I went. I was alone, Dad worked 3rd shift. Kept lights off while he drove around trying to find which home I went to. I never walked on the highway again.
In his own words, Bernard said the women were just objects. Yet he can go home to a wife. The ability to switch emotionally from a state of excitement and rage to calm is frightening.
@@taleandclawrock2606Sam Vaknin is the embodiment of that tweet ‘asked my therapist who their therapist was & went to see them. Asked them the same thing until I got to the final boss therapist & defeated them with my train wreck of a life’. Sam Vaknin _has_ pathological narcissistic personality disorder. He’s a fraud of the highest order. Quite literally. He served 18 months in prison for securities fraud in Israel, & fined approx $14,000. He’s a self-admitted ab*ser of women (his disgust & disrespect for women is an ongoing theme in his life). A self-confessed bully who admittedly delights in mentally torturing and gaslighting others. Has absolutely explosive moods & rage, in which he admits he is prone to exceptional cruelty. He speaks constantly about himself, rather than the populations he claims to be an expert in. I’d urge you to explore other avenues to take your insights on NPD from.
I have always had mixed opinions about Piers Morgan. He can be such a flamboyant controversial television personality, but when he wants to do a truly professional interview, he is phenomenal.
grande coisa, confessou como todo assassino faz, pra se livrar da pena de morte ..todos são covardes..uns escondem os corpos pra tentar negociar pra se livrar da pena de morte, se aproveitam do sofrimento das famílias que querem encontrar o corpo pra levar pra casa e usam isso pra ter o que negociar..chantagear..
Even though he’s a monster I’m impressed that he’s able to be honest and he’s aware of his own behavior and he knows when his urges started. He does seem to have some remorse I’ve never seen that in another serial killer
Remorse?! Where exactly did you see him showing any remorse?! He was as cool as a cucumber. He was talking about what he did like the way you would ask for a glass of water. His soul is dead. He is as cold as it can get. He knows he will spend the rest of his life in prison. He has accepted his fate and that`s why he is talking about it. 😐😑
Respectfully, I feel his remorse is for himself, that he ruined his own life, and seemed detached from the pain and suffering he caused to his victims, their families and loved ones. Truly sad, all of it.
With all due respect, I’m not sure remorse is what he’s feeling…maybe regret? Mostly for himself but his honesty suggests he is, at least, feeling something. I do appreciate his honesty. And I hope I don’t offend…have a good day, all. ✌🏼
I dislike it when people say the victim was in the wrong place at the wrong time; the victim was exactly where he or she should’ve been. It was the killer that was in the wrong.
I hate to say this, as I really am not a fan of Piers Morgan, but he is an incredible interviewer in these scenarios. He asks the right questions, in the right tone and without any sign of aggression or emotion that may be unwelcome by the interviewee. This was a great interview.
I don’t like him much either, especially when he talks about Britain, like he’s a member of the royal family. He does a decent job here. I really hates when he talks about Harry and Megan.
I've listened to hundreds and probably thousands of hours of interrogations and interviews with serial killers and criminals, and I have to say I'm bowled over by Bernard Giles. Unlike the others... He doesn't try to appear the smartest man in the room, he doesn't boast about his actions or show a certain pride in them, he doesn't amplify the facts, he doesn't leave a false mystery surrounding his victims, he shows a transparency and honesty that is hard to imagine. The fact that he is absolutely aware of everything, that he distinguishes between right and wrong, and that he is in some way a prisoner of his unhealthy, uncontrollable impulses, raises a whole host of questions about human behavior. His ability to make the switch between conceiving his victims as objects and creating a relational/emotional distance from them, and coming home to a strong and real love for his wife and daughter, fascinates me. The human being really is a complex machine! Thank you Piers and the team behind this project. That's really good.
I agree and that’s what he was trying to convey. There’s nothing you can say for what you did to their daughters. I’m sorry and I wish I hadn’t done it as you said means nothing.
You're absolutely correct. The best thing a monster like this can do is be quiet, head down, and beg God for mercy and forgiveness as He will let anyone who does exactly that, go free in the world to come😮
agreed. infact the guy in this judging him foe not saying sorry actually has the lack of depth to understand this. you say sorry when you bump in to someone, you say sorry when you are rude to someone, but saying sorry is an utterly ridiculous thing to do when you have taken a 14 year old life, Bernard understands this and knows it would mean nothing and admits he doesn't even deserve the right to say it cause of how sick his actions were. Amazing self awareness, he must have of had an insane compulsion to do this, and ability to compartmentalize his actions.
That interview gobsmacked me. I didn't expect this man to be so blunt about everything he did. He was.... hollow. A shell of a human. That interview was terrifying, that someone like that exists.
This man is at least real enough to not apologize when he does not feel sorry. As a family member of a victim I certainly wouldn't want a fake apology.
Yeah honestly I think he doesn't want to apologize in a self-hate sort of fashion at this point. He did what he did and nothing he could say is going to give those girls back, and it's somewhat wrong of him to ask for forgiveness to those families. Very logical thinker and with the outlook he has now and the drawings he was making during the time I wish that he was asked what type of drugs he was doing at the time to maybe give more of a context to what he was thinking or the mental state of himself.
It struck me so fiercely how he showed no emotion when shown the images of the woman he killed, but lit up when shown the images of his drawings.... he took particular interest and fascination in them, and even smiled afterwards. Devoid of empathy over those he murdered and more curious about his own drawings. That got to me.
@@Elizabeth-xn9rk He didn't have to agree to do an interview and be honest so we can all gain insight about men. like him. That was a form of kindness he showed to the rest of humanity for a minute.
He doesn't know how he feels about seeing his daughter. Seemed a sign of happiness because he smiled then the look disappeared quick and then he lies about what he feels.
These interviews are so important to try to see what makes serisl killers tick. This man knew exactly what and when. We as a society do not give enough importance sometimes to speak of young male arousal and "games." These conversations are made, but not in these cases. Thank you, Mr. Morgan for putting yourself in the rooms with these offenders so that we may be a bit educated.
We also never talk about the fact a lot of men have been sexually abused/molested as kids by adult women. I led a panel of 54 men in college and 42 of them were molested by adult women as kids as young as 8. We also think of men being predators but never the women. Upon doing some research, a lot of abusers were sexually molested as children.
IDIOCRACY CONFIRMED. STOP WITH THE GENDER WARFARE DEMONIC BS! Women are OFTEN predators! They’re essential in every form of trafficking! Ghislaine Maxwell was Epstein’s right hand WOMAN. DISTURBING TREND OF FEMALE TEACHERS ARE NOW BEING CONVICTED OF SLEEPING WITH STUDENTS!!! Because law enforcement has caught on! Domestic violence is very high amongst the LES-BI-HONEST community! REFORM IS ALSO COMING! Child support! Paternity fraud! Alimony! ENOUGH!!!
I appreciate that he didn't apologize. How could it possibly help the families get closure. He said he regretted it. Which, I think is as close as one could get without talking to the families. This was an interesting interview.
Wow a full interview with a serial killer who didn’t get offended by questions, comments of Piers feeling totally revolted with the person and the killings. The killer actually said he highly respected Piers. Regardless that the killer is a very sick person. He's taken accountability and gave a full interview like a man that knows he did very sick things. He's a case person to be studied for the psyc of a heartless serial killer. Grear interview Piers!!
The most dangerous kind of serial killers are the quiet ones who seem completely normal, honest, and friendly/charming. People like him make me want to not trust anyone. He is the definition of a wolf in sheep's clothing.
To me the most chilling part of the interview is when he was asked how he would feel if someone hurt HIS child and his response was “I wouldn’t appreciate it”. That was the point that I realized this brain is not wired the same way as most people. There’s a disconnect and lack of “how would you feel” emotion as if there is no emotion. Very strange.
"I'm not defending the position, I'm describing the position." Most respectable thing I've heard a SK say in an interview. He's not remorseful, nor pretends to be. But we can use these patterns to continue our vigilance against dangers lurking in our communities.
Not showing remorse is a pattern study other cases, I can name numerous and they won't justify they will just brag because it feeds their hunger for attention.
I don't have remorse, fear or compassion really. At least, not when unmedicated. I have ASPD and am self aware. That self awareness kept me from being awful. I know that I am the problem, not society at large. I say this, because people with ASPD need to be better understood and to better understand themselves. All that being said, I also respect that he did not pretend to be remorseful.
@horizonblack Don't worry my dude, I have BPD possibly comorbid with ASPD. I understand. I do have empathy but I can see people one way only sometimes.
@@horizonblackso how does it work, you take your medications and you start feeling compassionate to someone you might have hurt beforehand? Just curious.
@@Sinoochka Not quite. While medicated I am far less angry all the time. There is a pause between my thoughts and my reactions. This calming effect allows time for other emotions to creep in. I am still not emotionally intelligent, but I am getting there.
This is the first serial killer I’ve seen be so brutally honest. He knows he is sick. He knew it was wrong. It’s almost as if he wanted to be caught or stopped. I can’t imagine being born with the compulsion to hurt someone. You almost (of course you don’t) but you almost feel sorry for him having this enormous defect.
I think most of them are so unwell or 'evil' that it doesn't affect them. But I agree, if a person had that knowledge and didn't want to act upon the urge it would be difficult to live with that defect.
No, I get it. Honesty is a very powerful virtue for a reason. Maybe even more so when it's from the lips of a genuine serial killer. Quite a juxtapose. Especially, these days when simple honesty can be a challenge to find in many people. Maybe that's why it seems so refreshing. But I get why that's almost hard to ignore.
@@ThePitchbluenot unprovoked. As a schoolkid if my siblings were harmed or a friend was hurt or if I thought it would stop a bully Besides that, never.
I agree! He made me feel sad, a broken mind that can't be fixed. Aleen Wournos was a serial killer , killed 7 men. Her story is heartbreaking she has been called a " monster " and an " it" , all I could see was a terrified and brutalized 5 year old child. Aileen was put to death.
The most candid interview I have seen. Most of the time, they hee haw back and forth, flirting with the truth, but never embracing it. This dude embraced the truth. I bet he feels so much better talking truthfully.
Well, his truth is ok for him as long as he keeps believing that they were objects not human lives, as he says. If he would learn their names and see them as young girls I wonder if he could live with himself. I wonder if he then would develop emotions that actually respond to his deeds.
@Karenanneseven •I rather have him interview me that this serial killer he is freaking me out he looks as cold as Ice -It’s not illness it’s Evil and calculated
I think he knows what he did is evil and so doesn't deserve forgiveness which is why he doesn't apologize. Saying you're sorry is about receiving forgiveness for yourself.
Great interview! To think a serial killer would actually speak openly amd honestly about his crimes and not try to "expalin away" the reasons for his actions, is surprising. Best interview yet, Piers
Kind of messed up how this man is more honest with himself and knows himself on a much deeper level than most people ever will. His stoicism is impressive. He deserves his pain, but still, impressive.
I would not say he knows himself so well like that. Asked does he remember what the girls looked like he killed and said no, didn’t remember the names of the girls he killed, said he didn’t really know he loved his wife till it was over, didn’t remember drawing his pictures, didn’t know who the person was in the picture he drew, etc.
That's what I felt and I was confused the retired sheriff being interviewed didn't understand that. He was incensed the guy couldn't do it and it meant he had no soul. I think he had a soul but it was very damaged and he's had 45 years to reflect on that. He knew "at least apologizing" was so inappropriate and probably cruel. Because we was aware of his damaged soul, when the damage began and he began to unravel as his murders continued, unlike the btk guy or Bundy or gacey who enjoyed their conquests.
@heckyes..... thats for sure the reason. He is very direct and intelligent and coherent with what is going on. He knows that just doing an apology because somebody else thinks he should isnt going to change a thing. He has been in prison for 45 years? And well InTouch with the fact thats his life till the end and that there is no point or benefit for either side in doing that. I appreciated his honestly and matter-of-fact responses.
I agree. He has been so open and direct in his responses to Piers' questions, and shows no signs of deception at all. He understands clearly that at this point, an apology would be ridiculous and seen as disingenuous, no matter how truly remorseful (or not) he may feel.
He confessed to it all. Really chilling, one of the best interviews for sure. Sad to see so many people dying like the way they did. Condolences to their families 🙏
That was chillingly one of the best interviews with a serial killer. He and Dahmer are the only two I’ve seen that simply told their stories with honesty and without fanfare. Find it terrifying, yet interesting they don’t have the ability to feel remorse.
Why ? What’s the gain here ? He will never see the light of the day on the outside world. Each one is sicker then the other with different circumstances
@@annaathome2995because the insight into why someone developed into this- gives clues on how to spot and redirect and put into counseling up and coming future young mentally ill people.
I dont think people understand. It's not that he doesnt wanna apologize. Its just that since he's a psychopath, he cant comprehend that simple verbal acts can have certain emotional impacts to people. Also, he feels that its pointless to apologize since it doesnt undo anything, a family member has been killed and its a massive impact. And now he's locked up because he's dangerous, and he understands that. He's just very matter-of-fact
@@cicholasnage Agree, also when he said his thing was to objectify, once it became personal he couldn't go through with it. He had dehumanised the victims, where they had as much significance as a rock and still do. He has internalised it so much so, that it's all about him, everything else is superfluous.
You can see, every time he's asked a question his eyes look up & to the right... and it's obvious that he's putting himself back in the moment, and answering honestly. Effing terrifying.
I like that he’s become so introspective. He’s a monster, there’s no question about it. He can in no way, shape or form ever be allowed to engage in society ever again. But the fact that he has acknowledged that he is damaged and has this compulsion and has taken responsibility for his evil deeds is refreshing. The way that he turns inward whenever a question about how he felt comes up and tries to explain what was happening is rare, at least from what I’ve experienced.
Truly fascinating. He seems so polite, makes no excuses and doesn't seem to be recalling the murdrs and getting off on it. Very chilling and not what I would think of as a heinous serial killer. I almost think there is a touch of something almost resembling remorse but he just seems to be lacking something. Thank you again Piers for an amazing interview.
A dangerous character but at least honest. He shouldn't be forced to say he's sorry because he's obviously not and he's been honest about that too. He should remain locked up as he's a predator and a threat.
As many contact as piers has had with serial killers he still understands very little about their psyche. This man even gives him the answers all the time "i am not defending it, I am describing it" but piers keeps asking the questions as he expects this man to defend what he did.showing him pictures and names of his victimes, expecting that he reacts like a person who killed someone in defense or by being overwhelmed or whatever (meaning the reason everyone could become a murderer.) Its boring to watch that he can't adapt to the killers answers which are very interesting from a psychological point of view. Lot to learn Piers
Yeah. When he asks: were you loved, you can clearly see that the killer was hestitating. Piers could've just stated: 'You're hestitating' and he might even open up.
I haven’t watched many of these yet, but I don’t care for his interview style. It seems like he’s too focused on trying to cause drama. Leading questions, disconnected guesses, intentionally provoking.
People tend to label these people as "demons", "monsters" or "inhuman" in order to distance themselves from serial killers being humans. Amazing interview. I'm sure Giles is wondering what made him a killer ... a person with a loving family background turns into a killer. It does make you wonder what went wrong, if anything "went wrong."
i can appreciate how honest he is. None of these people i’ve seen him interview are truthful about their crimes & Piers has to pacify them until he can’t take it. R.I.P. to those babies; they were all someone’s baby 😢
I can truly appreciate the fact that he doesn't attempt to schmooze in any way with meaningless words that he truly doesn't feel just to bring a false sense of comfort to the victim's families. Brutally honest and makes no excuses for his actions.
It’s chilling to watch a psychopath be so open and candid. He’s sorry he did what he did b/c of where’s he’s at, but he’s completely INCAPABLE of FEELING TRUE REMORSE. He has no capacity for empathy. This was sad to watch on so many levels…
@@adrianavandewetering5588 “Empath” is a relatively new term. I’ve taken a multitude of college level clinical psychology courses & have had minimal hands on experience with Psyc patients in preparation & throughout my profession (late 1990’s-2000’s). I’ve never heard the term used in Medicine!! (To be completely transparent, the majority of my >20yr experience has been in Trauma/Orthopedics though.) Anyway, down the rabbit hole I went!! lol!! I think I’m an Empath!!🤯 I’m the type of person who can listen to another’s story & literally *feel* their emotional pain. I can easily read people, & am compassionate. I have to be very careful as to not be taken advantage of. I’ve been like that since I was a kid. Most all emotion/behavior/Psychopathy runs on a continuum; including empathy. I’m 95% positive, the man in the video is a true Psychopath. I don’t think he would have stopped killing if he hadn’t been caught. He couldn’t even emote when asked about his daughter!! Therapy often doesn’t help people like this, beyond teaching them to how NORMAL people SHOULD behave. They become better actors, & unfortunately, this can make them better at hurting others. True crime has always fascinated me, & this man’s interview was one of the most chilling that I’ve ever watched (& I’ve seen many). Thankfully, we don’t come in contact with people like this on a daily basis… My heart breaks for his victims, their families & friends, & his daughter.💔
This is the most honest explanation from a killer I've ever heard from someone who's clearly impaired in the brain structure of developing empathy and emotions in the first place. Pierce just fyi from a therapist, just because there's a family with other kids who do well doesn't mean there isn't a kid who scapegoated
Ty both my little brothers could and one still can't do anything wrong in my parents eyes but me I could and still do everything wrong as far as my parents are concernd
They could’ve also responded differently to him because of what they picked up on. I’ve worked as a mental health provider in prison and I could just FEEL when someone was a psychopath and just wasn’t “normal”
This was a fantastically honest portrayal of a homicidal psychopath. How anyone could be so devoid of emotion while committing such horrific acts is incredible. Great interview Pers, my opinion of you went up greatly because of this interview.
This man has a great deal to give to profilers, LE, psychology . . . he has given and can give a body of information that no level of education can give. I respect the level to which he own the horrific things he did and what he discloses.
"I certainly wouldn't appreciate it..." *doubles down* ... Woah. There were a few times I could at least admire his honesty. NOT RESPECT, but appreciate the honesty... But that just really made an impact.... Sick man. Glad he is locked away. He isn't sorry.
A psychopath does not understand the concept of love so cannot say if they were or not. Its an emotion completely missing in them. They can fake it by using the right words but they can't show it because they don't know how. Psychopaths are born that way, sociopaths are made through events/abuse/neglect growing up.
It was chilling at the end where Piers is explaining how it’s hard to not feel like he’s a monstrous person, and Giles just responds “I understand.” No explanation, no trying to change Piers’ mind. Just that he understands. It shows that he’s self-aware and knows he is in fact monstrous.
He is the only serial killer that actually shed some light onto how they tick and some early warning signs. He gave us the knowledge of how to glimpse into a young person's mind who may be going down a dark path. Sadly even knowing these things we as a society still don't supply near adequate mental health access to actually stop these people from becoming murderers!? All I can say is that all adults, especially teachers and parents need to be aware of their kids drawings and emotions and take steps if necessary! Luckily 99% of unstable kids and young people don't go on to be like this guy but may be almost as bad without help.
Mr Morgan respect for you for doing these interviews . It cannot be easy to interview these people and walk away and stay sane . Look after yourself again thank you .
This interview is fascinating from many different perspectives. From him knowing he had a problem, to him being straight up honest about what he did. He doesn't seem like he's making excuses or anything. Also, people like this also seem to be the most respectful in interviews. Am I the only one who notices how he says "sir" and was very respectful in this interview? I don't know...this was just very interesting. There's something to be said about just owning the horrible things that you do.
I think he's completely aware that him saying sorry would not help the families. He didn't see them as people just opportunities. How do you apologise to a family when you never humanized your victims, it wouldn't be genuine.
He is intelligent enough to describe how he felt in detail, “atoms vibrating” etc., a very cool character, extremely honest in this interview. He should never be released. I would like to know more about his early childhood development.
He seems to be pretty self aware- he described his early childhood experiences that he think imprinted these violent urges on him. Sadly we still don’t know why these experiences sometimes turn people into serial killers.
A serial killer by definition is an odd creature. This guy is not only that but an oddball among serial killers. I was amazed one of these monsters was so openly honest about his horrendous behavior. So many that Morgan interviewed continued to lie about their crimes. I was taken aback that when given to opportunity to show his remorse to his victims. He completely balked. Which just showed me, although “honest” about his crimes he was *NEVER* gonna be truly sorry to all the ones he hurt. Thankfully he’s exactly where he belongs..
@@sosaray7624 But was his regret because took five human lives? Causing a lifetime of pain for thief parents, siblings and and all their loved ones? Or completely changed a close net community in such a vile and negative way? Or did he just regret he got caught and would never see the light of day?
@@melloone611did you not hear the part where he said he cried while watching Braceheart? He basically said he was sad because he wished he could have lived a life of purpose and integrity.
True, but many who commented on here were taken in when he added well what could I say. But it was his first reaction that showed as a true psychopath he Did Not have any remorse period. He didn't plan on getting caught either as he stated in interview, he said he was so into the acts he was doing he was getting a charge out of it. He wasn't thinking it through.
Him saying sorry will not change anything. No matter how much that doc try to make you feel about the guy,he did it for himself. Without your help or encouragement,so when he says,saying sorry for what,I totally understand. When he was asked.. “Did your parents love you or did you feel loved”,he hesitated when asked that question twice. By his parents 1 and his wife 2. Good interview!
I think it's pretty clear why he did what he did . He explained the incident from childhood and the subsequent obsession he couldn't control. This was a very clear insight into the mind of a killer
How eerie his constant, blank, straight look at Piers and twisted, laboured smile feels! "How do I say sorry to people I hurt knowingly, deliberately, by design?" I would he keeps quiet forever if I were his victims family and find closure in the knowledge that he admitted to the crime and would pray he lives long in the misery of incarceration.
I respect his honesty, and at the same time, he can never be let free. Extremely dangerous!!!
Lol
You don't know if he's honest. Psychopaths lying all the time about anything, just like that
@@LoraHari81good point, but I suppose anything he says concerning the crimes can be fact checked by the investigators
respect? you would use word respect to something like him? ok
Anyone that "respect his honesty" makes them, aka YOU, sound like a serial killer.
he has no mersy,pitty,
He cant explain why he did what he did. He knows he has some kind of demon within him. Most honest interview yet.
Sounds like the group of folks living in the Us . But their loyalty is to somewhere else.
Demon?! He is the devil recarnated.👹👺
@@kenw2225 Who are they?
He did explain, he explained he had a compulsion.
@laurastuart3814 People don't pay attention. He litterally said from the beginning about playing that game where they were chasing his neighbor.
This man owned what he did, explained it as best he could, and was honest. He said, “I don’t have the right (to speak to the families)”. No grandiosity. Nothing cagey. Just a compulsion to do what excited him more than anything else in his life. It is horrific and evil, but nothing complicated.
Agreed because if he did give an apology the families and all of us would have dismissed it as not heart felt or him really meaning it. He actually did explain why he did it. He is person that is void of emotion or loving. I don't think he really loved anyone in his life ever. I think he cared for his own wife and child but caring is because he knew them. Everyone else around him is an object and that's it.
Totally agree!
I agree, what could he possibly say to the family’s that could make them feel better, nothing.
@@RichWeigell agree with you here that sweet of him if he care for his family
They all have one thing in common. They're all cowards.
Finally someone who at least admits to his crimes.
jeff dahmer did as well
He admitted to 9 but the detective work was lazy. It breaks my heart there were 4 families with no closure.
And how about you have you admitted to God your sins?
Haha what about piers crimes of interfering with police investigation into a missing and the dead girl. He hacked her cell phone to listen to the voicemails that her desperate parents had left, then deleted them to make more space so that more messages could be left. SICK fool
Well he's in jail. What's the point of lying at this point? Notoriety and fame, and media presence is the only fresh aspect about his mundane life. Might as well make the most of it.
It's like he's a normal guy trapped in a serial killer body. Very strange. I appreciated his honesty.
U got that the wrong way round,he’s a serial killer in a normal persons body
That's how they get to people like you.
Compartmentalized.
@@StuartHanson-fo7iw Depends on what angle you look at it.
@@mahbubmo Maybe it's the other way around...
My best friend and I got everywhere by hitchhiker. One day, unbeknownst to us we were picked off by a sheriff in an unmarked vehicle. He started acting all creepy and we decided to jump out of the car. No door handles! When he decided we were sufficiently terrified he showed us his badge and took us home to our parents. God bless that man for teaching us a lesson that may well have saved our lives!
Similar story
Back in the day lots of teenagers and young adults would hitchhike. It was a more trusting time in America. You never thought about the creeps out there too much. But it was so common for a kid who needed a lift to just as we'd say
" thumb it". I even remember my Dad picking up a guy in his Navy sailor uniform who was stranded on the side of the highway. I thought it was weird as a little kid to pick up a stranger even if he was in the service. But Dad was a WW2 vet and probably felt sorry for the poor sailor. Sorry off topic but you never see hitchhikers anymore and that's probably a good thing
Sounds more like the cop tried something with you and was afraid of his image when you guys fled. So he gave a story about 'scaring you'. Because it would have been much easier just to tell you.
Don't do it. Ever!
@@9Joel9 no
His explanation of how it became imprinted cant be understated. This is a profound revelation that needs deeply investigated and learned from.
I agree. What happens in childhood imprints.
Agreed.👍🏻
It's investigated thoroughly and regularly, which is great news!
Piers. Please don’t use Casey Jordan for these videos. She’s a hack.
I was hoping to hear more about that imprinting, what it felt like as a six year old boy, how that happened in more detail. I dislike how Morgan interviews people, putting words in their mouths, making assumptions about how they must feel, instead of asking questions which allow them to talk in their own words with their own thoughts.
When I was 15, on a Saturday night in December, I decided to walk up to the corner store. On the way to the store, I saw a little dark blue car drive by and when I left store and started back home, as I walked up my street, along came the same car. The guy asked me to get in. I said no. He kept asking and I kept walking. Finally, he ordered me into his car. I thought I could run and make it to my house. At just that moment, my brother drove up and called out to me. That guy took off like a bolt. I believe God was protecting me. Don't know what might have happened if brother hadn't come along.
god isn't real, why'd he save you and not these other women?
@@SyracuseIsOrangesshut up
@@SyracuseIsOranges is that the person you really wanna be seen as? Instead of acknowledging someone escaping a dangerous situation, you'd rather tell them their perspective is wrong? Not a good look
@@SyracuseIsOrangesGod IS real. He gave us free choice. Some use their free will to do unspeakable evil.
There are many mysteries about why things happen to different people. Cold Case Christianity is an excellent channel to discover the realness of God.
Those of us who study scripture and end time prophecy see how accurate current events fit perfectly into what was predicted thousands of years ago but more important is to understand our souls are eternal. There are only 2 default destinations we will go to forever one second after we die......we chose according to free will.
@@SyracuseIsOrangespeople have free will. God likely gave her brother a spiritual nudge and her brother went down that street then maybe not even realizing the nudge came from God. God gives many “nudges” if we have discernment we can have better ability to react to them. God doesn’t take away free will, however. So the evil people make evil choices. He doesn’t take control of them or anyone. Free will.
Giles murdered my co-worker and friend, Paula Hamric. She hitch hiked from Orlando to Titusville twice a month to visit her 2 little boys. I told her please don't do that! She told me that was the only way she could afford to go see her boys. She was always confident that she would be safe.
Cara, I'm so sorry to hear abóut the loss of yóur friend via this moñster 😢. Such a heartbreaking situation for her bóys , family and friends 😢
_May Paula rest in eternal peace._ 🕯
Lesson learnt: never trust a stranger !
@@MrsKhan0101
_Amen._
It is a sad world.
That is so sad x
I’m 63 and my teen friends always hitch hiked , I said no way. One day they ran away from a perv who picked them up. Never hitch hiked again. Great interview Piers!
I'm 55 and hitch hiked with my friend in the late 80s. We got picked up my a couple in an expensive looking black car, the man was in a suit and the woman was wearing a lot of jewelry and a fur coat. We thought we were safe. As we were driving along, a ziploc bag filled with white powder started to appear, sliding out from under the driver's seat at my feet in the back seat. I remember thinking it could be a bad situation if they knew we seen it so I pushed it back under the seat with my foot 😂 They dropped us off at our destination and nothing happened but that was crazy at the time..lol
@@originalsixxSounds like the rich people's coke accidentally slid out from under the seat 😅😅
@@jamescrumpler8384 Yep! I think that's exactly what happened lol
Women back then were idiots beyond belief
Yea, Im 61 born in 63. I thumbed rides as a preteen up till my late teens. I'm straight ( not gay }, and I saw things no good boy should ever see. As an older healthy man, ( still not gay, } It sends a shiver up my spine thinking about those things. And I can honestly say I will take those images burnt in my memory forever to my grave and probably into the after life. You really don't need to know those things. Don't Hitchhike. For the love of God don't hitchhike.
This prisoner, is the most honest serial killer, I've ever seen. I understand what he means when he says, What do I say to the families? I would't care what a person said who killed a member of my family. It would just make me angry.
Exactly. Agree with you 100%.
Same here. I think he has more understanding of that than Peirse or the guy talking about him. I also think he feels shame more than they credit him with. Not saying he shouldn't die in prison, he should.
Totally agree with you here
I agree with you 100%. He didn't want to apologize to the families because it would've been disingenuous. You can tell he has spent a lot of time trying to dissect his thoughts and feelings and actions. His honesty to himself is what I found most impressive, he actually owns his deeds, he doesn't try to excuse his actions or blame anything or anyone else. He must have one helluva therapist...
@@Ellen-o3pl agree with you here my friend
This interview is probably the only gift he’s given to the world. Rare to get this glimpse.
That one girl who gave him the joint, it calmed him and he drove her home. Just wow. A joint saved her life!
Nah she just gave him a bj.
Which part was that at?
He said he killed only women who were objects to him. That one came close with him and he responded with love. This man is not cold. He is unique. Dangerous killer ofcourse but a human being. That is even more chilling. Anybody could be him!
which part?
@@italydude51519:46 onwards
Excellent interview! I was a 1st grade girl in Pensacola, FL, in 1974, when I walked a shortcut home because I stayed too long at my friend's house. A man in a Nova type car pulled over to offer me a lift. I said "no thank you," as my mother taught me, but he started to approach me. I yelled, "FIRE!" repeatedly and started running. He jumpped back into his car and sped off. My mother taught me that no one comes if you yell "help," but they will if you yell "fire." She was right. The neighbors came straight away to investigate. With all the serial killer shows I watch, I think how close I may have come to danger that day.
Wise mom you have.
Glad you made it. I still live in Pensacola and it’s gotten much worse.
that is scary
I don't think I ever heard that advice but it is very good!
Thanks for the reminder!!.I don't know if I would have remembered that I learned it so long ago!! I'm at an age where I couldn't fight off an attacker- gotta be smarter!!
When he was asked if he was loved as a child, if you watch his body language, you can see he didn't really say yes. I wonder what happened to him growing up.
I picked that up as well
I thought the very same thing.
Yes I agree there was hesitation.
Good catch. He definitely paused. There may not have been extreme abuse but he had hesitation for sure.
He doesn’t know what love is!!! Never did
The fact that he feels he has no right to apologize shows that he understands the gravity of his actions.
These people are crazy and lack empathy but they're not dumb.
My thoughts exactly
@@slevinlindsay3624are you sure. Did you do research? Just asking
I agree I actually respected his explanation more than I have respected some fake Apologies from other killers. The fact they pushed him to apologize when he knows it means nothing is kind of immature.
Oh so interesting yes very indeed hahahah
How do you apologize for something SO terrible?! He makes a good point. There's nothing he CAN say. There are no words that could even come close to being the comfort that those who loved those girls would need. Nothing.
exactly, but try to explain that to the morrons
10000000% true. It will be almost insulting coming after and telling to the families “I’m sorry” that doesn’t mean anything. Most probably he is already working on that internally and that’s what’s matter.
Perfect reply. The former criminal profiler does not seem to understand that. For the killer, he realizes that there’s nothing to say that will make the families feel any better. It also seems as though he is not sorry for what he did, so apologizing would be dishonest.
exactly that’s exactly what i got from him! i actually made a comment stating the same, it’s not that he’s not sorry it’s that he thinks and knows his “sorry” it’s worthless
Glad others see it like I do. He can say NOTHING to fix it, or take their pain away, EVER!!! It would basically be an insult to them in a way.
I never hitch hiked but was walking home on a desolate highway in 1983/4 and almost abducted. He started off pleading to let him give me a ride, I shouldn't be out there alone, etc. I could not see his face, voice was kind and worried. Thought he might have been someone I knew, did a lot of babysitting and sometimes a Dad would see us walking and give us a ride. Tired after 3 miles and a long hill climb. A voice in my head said "do NOT get in this car". Swamp on one side, huge embankment on the other. Calmly refused the ride until I see it was about 50 feet before I could clear the swamp and bolt through a cornfield. Once I ran, his whole tune changed and he began yelling what he was going to do to me, obscenities, etc. Not athletic, but I ran for my life and he came into my subdivision. I dodged behind garages while he stalked me, had to hold my breath because it was cold and he would see the steam. Got in my house with only a minute to spare before he saw where I went. I was alone, Dad worked 3rd shift. Kept lights off while he drove around trying to find which home I went to. I never walked on the highway again.
Your story is terrifying, I'm so happy you followed your instinct.
That's remarkable. I'm glad you listened to your sixth sense. We all have it, but a lot of people don't listen to it. I'm glad that you did though. 🙏
This is terrifying 😢
That’s terrifying I’m so glad you’re okay, good on you for listening to your instincts!!!
Jesus Christ.. How did you get over that? thank god you were safe. x
In his own words, Bernard said the women were just objects. Yet he can go home to a wife. The ability to switch emotionally from a state of excitement and rage to calm is frightening.
I guess anything outside of what he loved and valued were just objects.
'Switching' Sam Vaknin describes switching in Cluster B personalities, a form of disassociative disorder.
@@taleandclawrock2606Sam Vaknin is the embodiment of that tweet ‘asked my therapist who their therapist was & went to see them. Asked them the same thing until I got to the final boss therapist & defeated them with my train wreck of a life’. Sam Vaknin _has_ pathological narcissistic personality disorder. He’s a fraud of the highest order.
Quite literally. He served 18 months in prison for securities fraud in Israel, & fined approx $14,000.
He’s a self-admitted ab*ser of women (his disgust & disrespect for women is an ongoing theme in his life). A self-confessed bully who admittedly delights in mentally torturing and gaslighting others.
Has absolutely explosive moods & rage, in which he admits he is prone to exceptional cruelty.
He speaks constantly about himself, rather than the populations he claims to be an expert in.
I’d urge you to explore other avenues to take your insights on NPD from.
They were not people he had any relationship with .. the victims were just a means to an end for his compulsive need. Sounds demonic.
It's demonic...plan and simple
I have always had mixed opinions about Piers Morgan. He can be such a flamboyant controversial television personality, but when he wants to do a truly professional interview, he is phenomenal.
At least this one confessed that he actually did it
Extremely rare. They are usually OJ types
And he didn't seem proud of what he did, which is very unusual.
grande coisa, confessou como todo assassino faz, pra se livrar da pena de morte ..todos são covardes..uns escondem os corpos pra tentar negociar pra se livrar da pena de morte, se aproveitam do sofrimento das famílias que querem encontrar o corpo pra levar pra casa e usam isso pra ter o que negociar..chantagear..
@@listerine414 😂
Piers confessed to ordering Harry's phone to be tapped?
Even though he’s a monster I’m impressed that he’s able to be honest and he’s aware of his own behavior and he knows when his urges started. He does seem to have some remorse I’ve never seen that in another serial killer
Exactly what I was thinking
Same here.
Remorse?! Where exactly did you see him showing any remorse?! He was as cool as a cucumber. He was talking about what he did like the way you would ask for a glass of water. His soul is dead. He is as cold as it can get. He knows he will spend the rest of his life in prison. He has accepted his fate and that`s why he is talking about it. 😐😑
Respectfully, I feel his remorse is for himself, that he ruined his own life, and seemed detached from the pain and suffering he caused to his victims, their families and loved ones. Truly sad, all of it.
With all due respect, I’m not sure remorse is what he’s
feeling…maybe regret? Mostly for himself but his honesty suggests he is, at least, feeling something. I do appreciate his honesty. And I hope I don’t offend…have a good day, all. ✌🏼
I dislike it when people say the victim was in the wrong place at the wrong time; the victim was exactly where he or she should’ve been. It was the killer that was in the wrong.
What is the point of sharing these stories if we don’t learn from them? Serious question
Valid point
Hitchhiking was so dangerous how scary
Good point. You should get to be wherever you want!
Piers is helplessly shallow in that way. He always looks for the easy linguistic hook to hang things on. Nothing to be done about it.
I hate to say this, as I really am not a fan of Piers Morgan, but he is an incredible interviewer in these scenarios. He asks the right questions, in the right tone and without any sign of aggression or emotion that may be unwelcome by the interviewee. This was a great interview.
I don’t like him much either, especially when he talks about Britain, like he’s a member of the royal family. He does a decent job here. I really hates when he talks about Harry and Megan.
It’s so disturbing and fascinating at the same time 😮
am startled that he seems so nonchalant and hes emotionally chomotod showing no signs of remorse.just engrossing
That’s how a lot of serial killers are
Just like Jeffrey Dahmer! A real monster, yet fascinating.
Right?!
Please - please don't let your fascination lead you down a path where you end up doing what he did. Please don't get that drawn in. Reject it, please
I've listened to hundreds and probably thousands of hours of interrogations and interviews with serial killers and criminals, and I have to say I'm bowled over by Bernard Giles. Unlike the others... He doesn't try to appear the smartest man in the room, he doesn't boast about his actions or show a certain pride in them, he doesn't amplify the facts, he doesn't leave a false mystery surrounding his victims, he shows a transparency and honesty that is hard to imagine.
The fact that he is absolutely aware of everything, that he distinguishes between right and wrong, and that he is in some way a prisoner of his unhealthy, uncontrollable impulses, raises a whole host of questions about human behavior.
His ability to make the switch between conceiving his victims as objects and creating a relational/emotional distance from them, and coming home to a strong and real love for his wife and daughter, fascinates me.
The human being really is a complex machine!
Thank you Piers and the team behind this project. That's really good.
Conceiving is the wrong word! Do you mean convincing or concerning?
Hes just exteemely smart and a better manipulator then most. Dont get too impressed
Kemper was unique too
Well said but he indicated that once he gave in to his impulses his spousal relationship quickly deteriorated and was hostile
People dehumanise others all the time. Referring to other humans as "cockroaches" and likening them to "hordes" of "pests" is a common example.
I kind of agree with him. What's saying sorry going to do? The families will still feel the same. Saying sorry is useless.
I agree and that’s what he was trying to convey. There’s nothing you can say for what you did to their daughters. I’m sorry and I wish I hadn’t done it as you said means nothing.
You're absolutely correct. The best thing a monster like this can do is be quiet, head down, and beg God for mercy and forgiveness as He will let anyone who does exactly that, go free in the world to come😮
Saying I m So
If he means it then sorry is always worth saying,if he can’t mean it then yes,I agree it’s pointless
agreed. infact the guy in this judging him foe not saying sorry actually has the lack of depth to understand this.
you say sorry when you bump in to someone, you say sorry when you are rude to someone, but saying sorry is an utterly ridiculous thing to do when you have taken a 14 year old life, Bernard understands this and knows it would mean nothing and admits he doesn't even deserve the right to say it cause of how sick his actions were. Amazing self awareness, he must have of had an insane compulsion to do this, and ability to compartmentalize his actions.
That interview gobsmacked me. I didn't expect this man to be so blunt about everything he did. He was.... hollow. A shell of a human. That interview was terrifying, that someone like that exists.
And unfortunately, there are probably thousands like him. They have billions of victims to choose from and are experts at going unnoticed.
I have to give him credit for being HONEST! Why do most of us do what we do…….hopefully his honesty can assist in future!
I think he feels saying "sorry" is meaningless. Those are words that anybody can say and it really means nothing.
He can say he's sorry ...but he has no feeling of being sorry ...he doesn't have empathy of being sorry
@@maryleung1425
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I hear you 👍🏻
He doesn't even know their names or what they look like which was probably deliberate. Very dissociated yet very direct.
@@2richants It was 50 years ago. I can't remember the faces of people who I was in school for years. It all blurry memory.
This man is at least real enough to not apologize when he does not feel sorry. As a family member of a victim I certainly wouldn't want a fake apology.
He didn't say he doesn't feel sorry. He feels he does not deserve to ask for any form of forgiveness.
I'm sure he is sorry but what's that going to do? Nothing! He's right! He can't undo the harm he created.
Me either
Yeah honestly I think he doesn't want to apologize in a self-hate sort of fashion at this point. He did what he did and nothing he could say is going to give those girls back, and it's somewhat wrong of him to ask for forgiveness to those families. Very logical thinker and with the outlook he has now and the drawings he was making during the time I wish that he was asked what type of drugs he was doing at the time to maybe give more of a context to what he was thinking or the mental state of himself.
@@deborahmathis7364 stop simping for criminals. He mostly doesn't feel sorry because he isn't capable of
It struck me so fiercely how he showed no emotion when shown the images of the woman he killed, but lit up when shown the images of his drawings.... he took particular interest and fascination in them, and even smiled afterwards. Devoid of empathy over those he murdered and more curious about his own drawings. That got to me.
He had these dark feelings first at 6 yrs old. A monster created so early in life.
What and who created these feelings in this 6 year old boy
I am not forgiving him but was it nature or nature?
Children become self aware at the age of 6. Most people who are gay will say that's the age they were able to pinpoint who they were..so it's true
@@PatriciaGodboutArt "nature or nurture"
@@lydibug51bit sus gay what do you mean l hope god help them
@@PatriciaGodboutArt demons playing witchcraft , pretend witch
The honest interview is way more interesting than the guys that deny. Thank you for this!
All for your entertainment and piers paycheck!
He did explain it. He just can’t care. Did you listen to him? It was very kind of him to educate us like that.
I wonder more about his childhood...yes they can't feel empathy for others
But he said he loved his wife
He couldn’t care. Empathy is non existent
Kind? This man is scary, gross Horrible!
@@Elizabeth-xn9rk He didn't have to agree to do an interview and be honest so we can all gain insight about men. like him. That was a form of kindness he showed to the rest of humanity for a minute.
He doesn't know how he feels about seeing his daughter. Seemed a sign of happiness because he smiled then the look disappeared quick and then he lies about what he feels.
I imagine it’s a very mixed feeling. Definitely happy to see her but really sad being reminded that he can never see her in person.
Even though he's been in prison a long time , I think he would start right where he left off if he Ever got out.
These interviews are so important to try to see what makes serisl killers tick. This man knew exactly what and when. We as a society do not give enough importance sometimes to speak of young male arousal and "games." These conversations are made, but not in these cases. Thank you, Mr. Morgan for putting yourself in the rooms with these offenders so that we may be a bit educated.
We also never talk about the fact a lot of men have been sexually abused/molested as kids by adult women. I led a panel of 54 men in college and 42 of them were molested by adult women as kids as young as 8. We also think of men being predators but never the women. Upon doing some research, a lot of abusers were sexually molested as children.
IDIOCRACY CONFIRMED. STOP WITH THE GENDER WARFARE DEMONIC BS! Women are OFTEN predators! They’re essential in every form of trafficking! Ghislaine Maxwell was Epstein’s right hand WOMAN. DISTURBING TREND OF FEMALE TEACHERS ARE NOW BEING CONVICTED OF SLEEPING WITH STUDENTS!!! Because law enforcement has caught on! Domestic violence is very high amongst the LES-BI-HONEST community! REFORM IS ALSO COMING! Child support! Paternity fraud! Alimony! ENOUGH!!!
I appreciate that he didn't apologize. How could it possibly help the families get closure. He said he regretted it. Which, I think is as close as one could get without talking to the families. This was an interesting interview.
I thought the same thing exactly.
Wow a full interview with a serial killer who didn’t get offended by questions, comments of Piers feeling totally revolted with the person and the killings.
The killer actually said he highly respected Piers.
Regardless that the killer is a very sick person. He's taken accountability and gave a full interview like a man that knows he did very sick things.
He's a case person to be studied for the psyc of a heartless serial killer.
Grear interview Piers!!
Dude was just like "😐" the entire time. Chilling.
His drawing got the biggest reaction from him, but just before that, being shown photos of women he killed did nothing to him.
He's a psychopath theynhave flat emotion. He had wholenlife to practice being. Normal but also he dossint have to wear mask anymore
The most dangerous kind of serial killers are the quiet ones who seem completely normal, honest, and friendly/charming. People like him make me want to not trust anyone. He is the definition of a wolf in sheep's clothing.
No, he is the wolf in your clothing, that's why we would trust him.
Do you not understand the verbiage? "Wolf in sheep's clothing" ... your response is idiotic.
9:26 he has no soul his eyes have nothing there...(40:36)
@Southernbelle4 Your response is pompous and arrogant. Worse than idiotic.
Only weak ppl are scared of them.
To me the most chilling part of the interview is when he was asked how he would feel if someone hurt HIS child and his response was “I wouldn’t appreciate it”. That was the point that I realized this brain is not wired the same way as most people. There’s a disconnect and lack of “how would you feel” emotion as if there is no emotion. Very strange.
"I'm not defending the position, I'm describing the position." Most respectable thing I've heard a SK say in an interview. He's not remorseful, nor pretends to be. But we can use these patterns to continue our vigilance against dangers lurking in our communities.
Not showing remorse is a pattern study other cases, I can name numerous and they won't justify they will just brag because it feeds their hunger for attention.
I don't have remorse, fear or compassion really. At least, not when unmedicated. I have ASPD and am self aware. That self awareness kept me from being awful. I know that I am the problem, not society at large. I say this, because people with ASPD need to be better understood and to better understand themselves. All that being said, I also respect that he did not pretend to be remorseful.
@horizonblack Don't worry my dude, I have BPD possibly comorbid with ASPD. I understand. I do have empathy but I can see people one way only sometimes.
@@horizonblackso how does it work, you take your medications and you start feeling compassionate to someone you might have hurt beforehand? Just curious.
@@Sinoochka Not quite. While medicated I am far less angry all the time. There is a pause between my thoughts and my reactions. This calming effect allows time for other emotions to creep in. I am still not emotionally intelligent, but I am getting there.
This is the first serial killer I’ve seen be so brutally honest. He knows he is sick. He knew it was wrong. It’s almost as if he wanted to be caught or stopped. I can’t imagine being born with the compulsion to hurt someone. You almost (of course you don’t) but you almost feel sorry for him having this enormous defect.
I think most of them are so unwell or 'evil' that it doesn't affect them. But I agree, if a person had that knowledge and didn't want to act upon the urge it would be difficult to live with that defect.
have you never had the desire to hurt someone?
No, I get it. Honesty is a very powerful virtue for a reason. Maybe even more so when it's from the lips of a genuine serial killer. Quite a juxtapose. Especially, these days when simple honesty can be a challenge to find in many people. Maybe that's why it seems so refreshing. But I get why that's almost hard to ignore.
@@ThePitchbluenot unprovoked.
As a schoolkid if my siblings were harmed or a friend was hurt or if I thought it would stop a bully
Besides that, never.
I agree! He made me feel sad, a broken mind that can't be fixed. Aleen Wournos was a serial killer , killed 7 men. Her story is heartbreaking she has been called a " monster " and an " it" , all I could see was a terrified and brutalized 5 year old child. Aileen was put to death.
The most candid interview I have seen. Most of the time, they hee haw back and forth, flirting with the truth, but never embracing it. This dude embraced the truth. I bet he feels so much better talking truthfully.
Well, his truth is ok for him as long as he keeps believing that they were objects not human lives, as he says. If he would learn their names and see them as young girls I wonder if he could live with himself. I wonder if he then would develop emotions that actually respond to his deeds.
Check out Ed Kemper
People like this don’t develop emotions…
@@evawilhelm5113 probably
@@erikkibler3466
That is not necessary true for most of them but I am aware that this is the mantra being recited on far too many shows.
I think that he was trying to say is that "sorry" is not adequate to atone for his grievous killings. No words can mitigate his lethal spree.
I understand why Bernard said he doesn't know what to say to the families. Sorry doesn't bring back the person you love.
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The self loathing he must feel.
Love him or hate him, Piers Morgan is a great interviewer 👌
mwa....nothing outstanding....
@Karenanneseven •I rather have him interview me that this serial killer he is freaking me out he looks as cold as Ice -It’s not illness it’s Evil and calculated
Yes he is..
Piers is a good interview, and he just says it bluntly that’s what’s makes him great.
He sux!
He said, "I am not defending the thing that I did. I am describing it."
Same with Dahmer. Very matter-of-fact.
We heard that too, but what point are you making?
@@floridaredneck are you bored? go nitpick somewhere else.😂
Best comment ever
Isn't that the point of him doing an interview?
I’ve seen a few of these serial killer interviews I would say this was the best one, the most insightful, honest.
At least he is telling the truth. This serial killer knows he’s evil. Others will lie to their graves.
It's bc they want to do it again.
I think he knows what he did is evil and so doesn't deserve forgiveness which is why he doesn't apologize. Saying you're sorry is about receiving forgiveness for yourself.
Gils is an English name. old English He is a Necrophile Murderer.
He wasn't as smart
The way he just said "yes sir I did" gave me chills damn
Lame
He's saying, there is nothing he can say. He feels his words are just words and not worthy.
And………they aren’t.
@@nancycurtis488 nope.
Great interview! To think a serial killer would actually speak openly amd honestly about his crimes and not try to "expalin away" the reasons for his actions, is surprising. Best interview yet, Piers
He's an abnormal normal man. His calm and honesty are so intriguing.
Kind of messed up how this man is more honest with himself and knows himself on a much deeper level than most people ever will. His stoicism is impressive. He deserves his pain, but still, impressive.
I dont kow if he do tho
I completely agree
Nothing impressive about nothing! Twisted
I would not say he knows himself so well like that. Asked does he remember what the girls looked like he killed and said no, didn’t remember the names of the girls he killed, said he didn’t really know he loved his wife till it was over, didn’t remember drawing his pictures, didn’t know who the person was in the picture he drew, etc.
Are you crazy? Why not become his pen pal? Maybe you can send him food and treat baskets. 🧺 Go see him and bond on a deeper level?
I love these interviews with Mr. Morgan!
All weekend. 😢 I feel crazy watching these so addicting.
Some are better than others
@@couchprincess698Maybe you need to visit a doctor 😢
Yeah??
Morgan is too assuming, don’t like him , shouldn’t expect a sociopath to feel remorseful and apologize
40:30 He obviously feels guilty. He knows his apology will not bring them back. Its probably not that he did not have that capacity.
I think he didn't really apologize because he realizes that would be even more of an insult on top of his actions.
correct.
That's what I felt and I was confused the retired sheriff being interviewed didn't understand that. He was incensed the guy couldn't do it and it meant he had no soul. I think he had a soul but it was very damaged and he's had 45 years to reflect on that. He knew "at least apologizing" was so inappropriate and probably cruel. Because we was aware of his damaged soul, when the damage began and he began to unravel as his murders continued, unlike the btk guy or Bundy or gacey who enjoyed their conquests.
@heckyes..... thats for sure the reason. He is very direct and intelligent and coherent with what is going on. He knows that just doing an apology because somebody else thinks he should isnt going to change a thing. He has been in prison for 45 years? And well InTouch with the fact thats his life till the end and that there is no point or benefit for either side in doing that. I appreciated his honestly and matter-of-fact responses.
Sorry, ya you are rite. ?
I agree. He has been so open and direct in his responses to Piers' questions, and shows no signs of deception at all. He understands clearly that at this point, an apology would be ridiculous and seen as disingenuous, no matter how truly remorseful (or not) he may feel.
He confessed to it all. Really chilling, one of the best interviews for sure. Sad to see so many people dying like the way they did. Condolences to their families 🙏
This person needs to stay in prison for life😢
Yes, he does 😁
@@kringle-jelly and yes he is!
Yep. No doubt he would do it again.
He has 3 life sentences and he's almost 70 years old so I'm pretty sure he's. Lol.
He ain't going anywhere, with govr. Ron in office
That was chillingly one of the best interviews with a serial killer. He and Dahmer are the only two I’ve seen that simply told their stories with honesty and without fanfare. Find it terrifying, yet interesting they don’t have the ability to feel remorse.
This is one man I would have wished the interview was longer.
With a more in depth psychology interview.
Why ? What’s the gain here ? He will never see the light of the day on the outside world. Each one is sicker then the other with different circumstances
@@annaathome2995 If that’s how you feel then I respect that. Not everyone feels or thinks the way you do.
@@MrRaven2 For sure.
@@annaathome2995because the insight into why someone developed into this- gives clues on how to spot and redirect and put into counseling up and coming future young mentally ill people.
How can you expect him to say sorry, if he is'nt capable of feeling such a emotion
He's a sick man!Right from birth
Most of them don't feel empathy.
and he didn't want to disrespect them with lies
I dont think people understand. It's not that he doesnt wanna apologize. Its just that since he's a psychopath, he cant comprehend that simple verbal acts can have certain emotional impacts to people. Also, he feels that its pointless to apologize since it doesnt undo anything, a family member has been killed and its a massive impact. And now he's locked up because he's dangerous, and he understands that. He's just very matter-of-fact
@@cicholasnage Agree, also when he said his thing was to objectify, once it became personal he couldn't go through with it.
He had dehumanised the victims, where they had as much significance as a rock and still do. He has internalised it so much so, that it's all about him, everything else is superfluous.
You can see, every time he's asked a question his eyes look up & to the right... and it's obvious that he's putting himself back in the moment, and answering honestly. Effing terrifying.
It’s down to the left for emotions (if right handed).
I like that he’s become so introspective. He’s a monster, there’s no question about it. He can in no way, shape or form ever be allowed to engage in society ever again. But the fact that he has acknowledged that he is damaged and has this compulsion and has taken responsibility for his evil deeds is refreshing. The way that he turns inward whenever a question about how he felt comes up and tries to explain what was happening is rare, at least from what I’ve experienced.
Truly fascinating. He seems so polite, makes no excuses and doesn't seem to be recalling the murdrs and getting off on it. Very chilling and not what I would think of as a heinous serial killer. I almost think there is a touch of something almost resembling remorse but he just seems to be lacking something.
Thank you again Piers for an amazing interview.
Lacking something... emotions
@@temphys Right. I'm sure he wants to feel emotion but he's just void of them.
He does seem to recall sometimes. When Piers asks him how he felt after the first one.
A dangerous character but at least honest. He shouldn't be forced to say he's sorry because he's obviously not and he's been honest about that too. He should remain locked up as he's a predator and a threat.
As many contact as piers has had with serial killers he still understands very little about their psyche. This man even gives him the answers all the time "i am not defending it, I am describing it" but piers keeps asking the questions as he expects this man to defend what he did.showing him pictures and names of his victimes, expecting that he reacts like a person who killed someone in defense or by being overwhelmed or whatever (meaning the reason everyone could become a murderer.) Its boring to watch that he can't adapt to the killers answers which are very interesting from a psychological point of view. Lot to learn Piers
Exactly what i was thinking . thank u .
Yeah. When he asks: were you loved, you can clearly see that the killer was hestitating. Piers could've just stated: 'You're hestitating' and he might even open up.
It's for views.
A broken human being. Some important pieces missing. Interview did not reveal what those were. Scary!
I haven’t watched many of these yet, but I don’t care for his interview style. It seems like he’s too focused on trying to cause drama. Leading questions, disconnected guesses, intentionally provoking.
People tend to label these people as "demons", "monsters" or "inhuman" in order to distance themselves from serial killers being humans. Amazing interview. I'm sure Giles is wondering what made him a killer ... a person with a loving family background turns into a killer. It does make you wonder what went wrong, if anything "went wrong."
This was the most HONEST serial killer I’ve ever heard on any interview. What he did was horrific but I respect him for his honesty.
This is one of the most interesting documentaries i have seen. Such a calm and gentle personality..and so evil..
i can appreciate how honest he is. None of these people i’ve seen him interview are truthful about their crimes & Piers has to pacify them until he can’t take it. R.I.P. to those babies; they were all someone’s baby 😢
Most honest yet emotionless killer Ive ever heard speak.
I can truly appreciate the fact that he doesn't attempt to schmooze in any way with meaningless words that he truly doesn't feel just to bring a false sense of comfort to the victim's families. Brutally honest and makes no excuses for his actions.
Yes, what a good man.
He doesn't understand it himself, so how can he explain himself. Imagine being a stranger to one'self
It’s chilling to watch a psychopath be so open and candid. He’s sorry he did what he did b/c of where’s he’s at, but he’s completely INCAPABLE of FEELING TRUE REMORSE. He has no capacity for empathy. This was sad to watch on so many levels…
Exactly 100%.
Like the whole world is full of empaths😂😂😂😂and he is the exception
@@adrianavandewetering5588 “Empath” is a relatively new term. I’ve taken a multitude of college level clinical psychology courses & have had minimal hands on experience with Psyc patients in preparation & throughout my profession (late 1990’s-2000’s). I’ve never heard the term used in Medicine!! (To be completely transparent, the majority of my >20yr experience has been in Trauma/Orthopedics though.) Anyway, down the rabbit hole I went!! lol!! I think I’m an Empath!!🤯 I’m the type of person who can listen to another’s story & literally *feel* their emotional pain. I can easily read people, & am compassionate. I have to be very careful as to not be taken advantage of. I’ve been like that since I was a kid. Most all emotion/behavior/Psychopathy runs on a continuum; including empathy. I’m 95% positive, the man in the video is a true Psychopath. I don’t think he would have stopped killing if he hadn’t been caught. He couldn’t even emote when asked about his daughter!! Therapy often doesn’t help people like this, beyond teaching them to how NORMAL people SHOULD behave. They become better actors, & unfortunately, this can make them better at hurting others. True crime has always fascinated me, & this man’s interview was one of the most chilling that I’ve ever watched (& I’ve seen many). Thankfully, we don’t come in contact with people like this on a daily basis… My heart breaks for his victims, their families & friends, & his daughter.💔
Bizarre that they didn't address the rapes at all, only the murders.
RUclips would probably censor it, but it leaves out a huge part of the story.
"What was your criteria for a victim?"
"Access"
Take NOTES FOLKS!
Exactly
I sooo agree! That's what I picked up on
absolutely
He says access but all his victims were under a certain age. I think he had his type but didn't want to admit it
@@thekibblerbut you never know when you fall into the orbit of someone’s type. Always be watchful
I think he is hesitant to apologize because he knows it will be seen as disingenuous, he’s a very smart man I take it
This is the most honest explanation from a killer I've ever heard from someone who's clearly impaired in the brain structure of developing empathy and emotions in the first place.
Pierce just fyi from a therapist, just because there's a family with other kids who do well doesn't mean there isn't a kid who scapegoated
Ty both my little brothers could and one still can't do anything wrong in my parents eyes but me I could and still do everything wrong as far as my parents are concernd
Ed Kemper is similar.
@@maltomilto absolutely agree
They could’ve also responded differently to him because of what they picked up on. I’ve worked as a mental health provider in prison and I could just FEEL when someone was a psychopath and just wasn’t “normal”
This was a fantastically honest portrayal of a homicidal psychopath. How anyone could be so devoid of emotion while committing such horrific acts is incredible. Great interview Pers, my opinion of you went up greatly because of this interview.
This man has a great deal to give to profilers, LE, psychology . . . he has given and can give a body of information that no level of education can give. I respect the level to which he own the horrific things he did and what he discloses.
I believe him when he says he doesn’t remember their faces. Everything else he said seems truthful. Terribly sad for the families.
"I certainly wouldn't appreciate it..." *doubles down* ... Woah. There were a few times I could at least admire his honesty. NOT RESPECT, but appreciate the honesty... But that just really made an impact.... Sick man. Glad he is locked away. He isn't sorry.
I noticed the hesitation when Piers asked "and you were loved?" Asking about his childhood in the beginning of the interview. There's something there.
Maybe he can recognize that his parents loved him but didn’t feel the love. He hesitated with his wife’s love, as well.
I saw that too.
I expected Piers to ask; after Giles hesitated; "do you even know what love is?" "Can you feel love?"
@@KathyLechner , exactly!
A psychopath does not understand the concept of love so cannot say if they were or not. Its an emotion completely missing in them. They can fake it by using the right words but they can't show it because they don't know how.
Psychopaths are born that way, sociopaths are made through events/abuse/neglect growing up.
It was chilling at the end where Piers is explaining how it’s hard to not feel like he’s a monstrous person, and Giles just responds “I understand.” No explanation, no trying to change Piers’ mind. Just that he understands. It shows that he’s self-aware and knows he is in fact monstrous.
He is the only serial killer that actually shed some light onto how they tick and some early warning signs. He gave us the knowledge of how to glimpse into a young person's mind who may be going down a dark path. Sadly even knowing these things we as a society still don't supply near adequate mental health access to actually stop these people from becoming murderers!? All I can say is that all adults, especially teachers and parents need to be aware of their kids drawings and emotions and take steps if necessary! Luckily 99% of unstable kids and young people don't go on to be like this guy but may be almost as bad without help.
I think he learned from profilers who studied him. Nothing insightful from his sick brain.
Mr Morgan respect for you for doing these interviews . It cannot be easy to interview these people and walk away and stay sane . Look after yourself again thank you .
He's being honest; the honesty can help in researching serial killers. He answered the unknown.
People like him will tell 99% of truth but most important part will be left out
This interview is fascinating from many different perspectives. From him knowing he had a problem, to him being straight up honest about what he did. He doesn't seem like he's making excuses or anything. Also, people like this also seem to be the most respectful in interviews. Am I the only one who notices how he says "sir" and was very respectful in this interview? I don't know...this was just very interesting. There's something to be said about just owning the horrible things that you do.
Haha you’re cute. Of course, I’m sure most of us noticed him referring to him as “sir”
I think he's completely aware that him saying sorry would not help the families. He didn't see them as people just opportunities. How do you apologise to a family when you never humanized your victims, it wouldn't be genuine.
He is intelligent enough to describe how he felt in detail, “atoms vibrating” etc., a very cool character, extremely honest in this interview. He should never be released. I would like to know more about his early childhood development.
He seems to be pretty self aware- he described his early childhood experiences that he think imprinted these violent urges on him. Sadly we still don’t know why these experiences sometimes turn people into serial killers.
But he can't remember his victims names. BS he is lying!
@@GuaranteedEtern photos of him when he was like 6 show he was a creep then. His eyes literally leering.
Wow good interview massive respect for Piers for conducting a interview with this serial killer face to face.
This interview fell short. Someone else needs to go deeper with this guy. There's so much more to unpack.
He probably has a time limit unfortunately
No he's just a dumb redneck that thinks he's bright. Nothing really interesting.
Definitely has a time limit
Piers is a dork. That's why.
Piers is a self-absorbed guy so he would never be capable of asking actual deep questions that get to the root of anything important
A serial killer by definition is an odd creature.
This guy is not only that but an oddball among serial killers.
I was amazed one of these monsters was so openly honest about his horrendous behavior. So many that Morgan interviewed continued to lie about their crimes.
I was taken aback that when given to opportunity to show his remorse to his victims. He completely balked. Which just showed me, although “honest” about his crimes he was *NEVER* gonna be truly sorry to all the ones he hurt.
Thankfully he’s exactly where he belongs..
He did say though I wish I never did it means he do got some regret but a selfish one cause he lost his life with them
@@sosaray7624 But was his regret because took five human lives? Causing a lifetime of pain for thief parents, siblings and and all their loved ones? Or completely changed a close net community in such a vile and negative way?
Or did he just regret he got caught and would never see the light of day?
@@melloone611did you not hear the part where he said he cried while watching Braceheart? He basically said he was sad because he wished he could have lived a life of purpose and integrity.
@@KevinRogers-c4r Yes I heard that. Just because he feels some regret doesn’t mean he has REMORSE. They are two separate things.
True, but many who commented on here were taken in when he added well what could I say. But it was his first reaction that showed as a true psychopath he Did Not have any remorse period. He didn't plan on getting caught either as he stated in interview, he said he was so into the acts he was doing he was getting a charge out of it. He wasn't thinking it through.
Piers is expecting a sincere apology. Serial killers are known to have no empathy and little remorse. An apology would be meaningless.
Correct. Wanting these guys to feel bad isn’t going to happen.
Him saying sorry will not change anything.
No matter how much that doc try to make you feel about the guy,he did it for himself.
Without your help or encouragement,so when he says,saying sorry for what,I totally understand.
When he was asked..
“Did your parents love you or did you feel loved”,he hesitated when asked that question twice.
By his parents 1 and his wife 2.
Good interview!
I think it's pretty clear why he did what he did . He explained the incident from childhood and the subsequent obsession he couldn't control. This was a very clear insight into the mind of a killer
Once he gave himself over, he could not stop
Addiction
How eerie his constant, blank, straight look at Piers and twisted, laboured smile feels! "How do I say sorry to people I hurt knowingly, deliberately, by design?" I would he keeps quiet forever if I were his victims family and find closure in the knowledge that he admitted to the crime and would pray he lives long in the misery of incarceration.
Bruh, he’s been in prison for 45 years with this over his head. How is he supposed to be? Smh
'misery'? - look how well they are kept
He did finally said of course. I’m sorry.
@@GaZonk100 Nothing they get in prison can compare to the freedom to steer one's life; nothing!
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