I appreciate the honest video. You helped me decide to buy after being without for many years. It's not all about money. Hopes and dreams still matter.
Ironic to see a financial planner making poor financial decisions. =) In all seriousness, the big tires look great. The AP will be a great help getting the Instrument rating and continue to develop your skills just like learning tailwheel did. Thanks for the update.
LOL!! It has been a real adventure! I agree with your assessment on the usefulness of the auto pilot!! I just finished my IFR training and the auto pilot was a huge help with managing the cockpit! Thanks for watching!
I am late to the party but here is my advice as a professional aviation operations manager: Ran the airline over night based at KCMH our planes end in QS. Limit your duty day to 14 hours. This is from the time you get up/moving toward your meetings or work to the time the engine must be off. Do not budge from that. Balance the mission. Every flight is going to have a partial panel and you need a flashlight to see the steam gauges. If you can fly that you are able to fly anyplace. That is the safety part, from what I heard you say, you fly fatigued and that kills. Twin: Budget 3 times what you pay now. A friend of mine has a non pressurized M350, I know not a twin but still complex, every annual has been over $16,000. He is not adding stuff like me but still so they claim his plane needs a specialist to inspect it. Any idiot can inspect my Arrow. Another friend has an Aztec, speed costs money he says, when we go places he arrives in time to have a car pulled up for me in my Arrow. He does have double the useful load I have. I have 4 vs 12 cylinders to feed. On a twin you still have all the nav needs and double the power plant needs. Then there is the argument of are you really safer in a piston twin? For me, my Arrow is having the vacuum pump removed and a backup alternator installed. Speed, there is always something faster. I am just working to make my Arrow as fast as I can. As far as cost, I can’t keep count, it is a toy. If I knew I would be depressed. My first annual was $40,000 second was $3,000 but had new Garmin stuff added on so it was closer to $20,000. I paid for the electronics separately long before they arrived.
Haha, I don't feel so bad now. Older Cessnas are definitely expensive to maintain. I just had my 185 painted and the quote ballooned from 36k ending up to about 65k. Adding glass and new spinner. Bit I don't see too many Brinks trucks following the hearse, what are ya saving it for?
DO NOT FLY TIRED anytime, never mind at night - single engine? There are old pilots and bold pilots, but there are no OLD BOLD pilots - they don't make it. I am CPL up in BC. ex low time Bush Pilot. but I am happy I had the experiences I have had because a normal pilot wouldn't have gone into some of the places I went. Difference was the owner of the company had been everywhere for 40 yrs of flying - so he would sit me down on the floor and use a shoe or a pencil or eraser or a coffee cup to show the exact problems I would encounter and how to approach and how high off the brush my wheel's had to be so I could drop down onto the "descending" one way in one way out dirt strip at the fishing lodge and make it safely.. that was just amazing looking back. It impressed upon me early on in my career how much technique and timing and placement mattered IN THE BUSH. Not on a large gravel bar but on short strips on the side of a large hill, some might call a mountain. Me? I little 2 place kitfox with 160/180HP that I can put amphib floats on - water opens up a lot of places and increases your safety for landing... and also have Plane #2 - faster low wing turbo that will top out over 200MPH and get you up into the flight levels 200-250 if you do allot of X country. That's just my opinion for what I would do - and yes I was wondering why you were putting all that glass in a bush plane. Save that for your speedster. Steam Guages have worked for a long long time - they will continue to work - nothing wrong with a small elec back up .
Channel has potential. Post more often. Add details to the $93K in RUclips description such as line item breakdowns and overall mission. I would like to see a segregation of expenses vs investment/upgrade costs. Get straight to point of $93k at start of video then delve into the stories/missions/etc later. That is what video editing is for. You did great mentioning $48k at start. Aim for instrument first and practice several actuals before going deep into twins. Twins are fun, but can be double the trouble.
I appreciate you taking the time to provide this feedback. I will take your good advise... I am defiantly not much of a youtuber! As for the twins... i am currently in the process of a overhaul now... that just cured my twin engine itch! Thanks for watching!
@@Wookierabbit Sorry I know very little on the matter.... I have heard great things about TAS Aviation they seem to have a great reputation with the Cessna twins.
310 guy went to a very smart shop in Georgia . Maybe chk with 310 guy & gal - good fella and ATC controller in Chicago I think . Cessna 310 owner for sure , and good videos too !
"I have a degree in finance. I am mentioning this to encourage you to pay attention. You are young and it seems that you love aviation. Consider getting your A&P through a two-year program that costs around $40K. If you run the numbers for ten-year cycles of maintenance, you will see that it makes financial sense.
Yes - Please boost volume ! Every video is to low on volume these days - it’s not just you big buddy . I wish creators would keep in mind : we can always turn it down a bit ! No problem - If folk’s are interested in the content they will try to really listen to what you are saying … If we turn our pads all the way up - Ya know , that’s all she’s got - ha Hey thanks , but by the way , Your aircraft is Tits ! 3 blade prop next ? See what I mean - cha - Ching - $$$. Awesome unit ! Thank you for sharing and reading - Over & out
No you don't have to be a millionaire..... you just have to really want it! I think that any middle class person can have the goal of owning a 180 and achieve it. I didn't put these videos to discourage anyone from airplane ownership I am just trying to provide a open and honest commentary on what it is costing me. You can own a 180 and keep the cost 1/2 or 1/3 of what I spent. I mention in my videos that it can be done a lot cheaper. Don't be intimated or discouraged to go for it. I will be happy to discuss all the things I could have done differently on a phone call if you like. Good luck! Thanks for watching!
I appreciate the honest video. You helped me decide to buy after being without for many years. It's not all about money. Hopes and dreams still matter.
I agree 100% Thanks for watching!
Ooof, it definitely makes me drool over these 180/185's a touch less when I hear about costs like these.
Ironic to see a financial planner making poor financial decisions. =)
In all seriousness, the big tires look great. The AP will be a great help getting the Instrument rating and continue to develop your skills just like learning tailwheel did. Thanks for the update.
LOL!! It has been a real adventure! I agree with your assessment on the usefulness of the auto pilot!! I just finished my IFR training and the auto pilot was a huge help with managing the cockpit! Thanks for watching!
I am late to the party but here is my advice as a professional aviation operations manager: Ran the airline over night based at KCMH our planes end in QS.
Limit your duty day to 14 hours. This is from the time you get up/moving toward your meetings or work to the time the engine must be off. Do not budge from that.
Balance the mission. Every flight is going to have a partial panel and you need a flashlight to see the steam gauges. If you can fly that you are able to fly anyplace.
That is the safety part, from what I heard you say, you fly fatigued and that kills.
Twin: Budget 3 times what you pay now. A friend of mine has a non pressurized M350, I know not a twin but still complex, every annual has been over $16,000. He is not adding stuff like me but still so they claim his plane needs a specialist to inspect it. Any idiot can inspect my Arrow.
Another friend has an Aztec, speed costs money he says, when we go places he arrives in time to have a car pulled up for me in my Arrow. He does have double the useful load I have. I have 4 vs 12 cylinders to feed.
On a twin you still have all the nav needs and double the power plant needs. Then there is the argument of are you really safer in a piston twin?
For me, my Arrow is having the vacuum pump removed and a backup alternator installed.
Speed, there is always something faster. I am just working to make my Arrow as fast as I can.
As far as cost, I can’t keep count, it is a toy. If I knew I would be depressed. My first annual was $40,000 second was $3,000 but had new Garmin stuff added on so it was closer to $20,000. I paid for the electronics separately long before they arrived.
Haha, I don't feel so bad now. Older Cessnas are definitely expensive to maintain. I just had my 185 painted and the quote ballooned from 36k ending up to about 65k. Adding glass and new spinner. Bit I don't see too many Brinks trucks following the hearse, what are ya saving it for?
DO NOT FLY TIRED anytime, never mind at night - single engine? There are old pilots and bold pilots, but there are no OLD BOLD pilots - they don't make it. I am CPL up in BC. ex low time Bush Pilot. but I am happy I had the experiences I have had because a normal pilot wouldn't have gone into some of the places I went. Difference was the owner of the company had been everywhere for 40 yrs of flying - so he would sit me down on the floor and use a shoe or a pencil or eraser or a coffee cup to show the exact problems I would encounter and how to approach and how high off the brush my wheel's had to be so I could drop down onto the "descending" one way in one way out dirt strip at the fishing lodge and make it safely.. that was just amazing looking back. It impressed upon me early on in my career how much technique and timing and placement mattered IN THE BUSH. Not on a large gravel bar but on short strips on the side of a large hill, some might call a mountain.
Me? I little 2 place kitfox with 160/180HP that I can put amphib floats on - water opens up a lot of places and increases your safety for landing... and also have Plane #2 - faster low wing turbo that will top out over 200MPH and get you up into the flight levels 200-250 if you do allot of X country. That's just my opinion for what I would do - and yes I was wondering why you were putting all that glass in a bush plane. Save that for your speedster. Steam Guages have worked for a long long time - they will continue to work - nothing wrong with a small elec back up .
OUTSTANDING Documentary!
Thanks for watching!
Channel has potential. Post more often. Add details to the $93K in RUclips description such as line item breakdowns and overall mission. I would like to see a segregation of expenses vs investment/upgrade costs. Get straight to point of $93k at start of video then delve into the stories/missions/etc later. That is what video editing is for. You did great mentioning $48k at start.
Aim for instrument first and practice several actuals before going deep into twins. Twins are fun, but can be double the trouble.
I appreciate you taking the time to provide this feedback. I will take your good advise... I am defiantly not much of a youtuber! As for the twins... i am currently in the process of a overhaul now... that just cured my twin engine itch! Thanks for watching!
@@villagewealthmanagement Do you have any mechanic you can refer that are familiar with c310?
@@Wookierabbit Sorry I know very little on the matter.... I have heard great things about TAS Aviation they seem to have a great reputation with the Cessna twins.
310 guy went to a very smart shop in Georgia . Maybe chk with 310 guy & gal - good fella and
ATC controller in Chicago I think . Cessna 310 owner for sure , and good videos too !
Can you use these expenses for tax deductions?
That's not cost of ownership. Upgrades don't count. Hanger fees, insurance, annuals, etc are cost of ownership.
"I have a degree in finance. I am mentioning this to encourage you to pay attention. You are young and it seems that you love aviation. Consider getting your A&P through a two-year program that costs around $40K. If you run the numbers for ten-year cycles of maintenance, you will see that it makes financial sense.
Can't hear you reupload ad turn the audio volume up
right audio only
@@JeffinColorado Doesn't work still no sound ss it get muted at the 10 sec mark.
Mike,
I am sorry I don't know what happened. Thanks for trying to watch!
Yes - Please boost volume ! Every video is to low on volume these days - it’s not just you big buddy .
I wish creators would keep in mind : we can always turn it down a bit ! No problem -
If folk’s are interested in the content they will try to really listen to what you are saying …
If we turn our pads all the way up - Ya know , that’s all she’s got - ha Hey thanks , but by the way ,
Your aircraft is Tits ! 3 blade prop next ? See what I mean - cha - Ching - $$$. Awesome unit !
Thank you for sharing and reading - Over & out
Yeah, but you’ve done a bunch of upgrades. Great airplane.
Bush plane has no auto - pilot
So basically you have to be a millionaire to own a 180
No you don't have to be a millionaire..... you just have to really want it! I think that any middle class person can have the goal of owning a 180 and achieve it. I didn't put these videos to discourage anyone from airplane ownership I am just trying to provide a open and honest commentary on what it is costing me. You can own a 180 and keep the cost 1/2 or 1/3 of what I spent. I mention in my videos that it can be done a lot cheaper. Don't be intimated or discouraged to go for it. I will be happy to discuss all the things I could have done differently on a phone call if you like. Good luck! Thanks for watching!