He literally made a man, I think that's enough to consider him a great science professional(I know he abandoned his son, but anyway making him was an awesome science achievement)
I’m not sure if the title of doctor was a thing in the 1700s (a time when university was more of a hobby for the wealthy and very intelligent than a step in someone’s career) but Victor was brilliant and advanced enough in his academic career to have made improvements to various chemistry tools and have made quite a name for himself at the university so I think that’s good enough
I actually live in a city in Germany that is like right next to Frankenstein's castle. Here we call it "Burg Frankenstein" and the American soldiers stationed here introduced a festival held every year on the castle on Helloween. Today it's also a popular local destination for hikers and cyclers but also for birthday parties and generally special events. edit: it's not actually called Frankenstein's castle because of the book. Obviously the castle and its name existed before the book.
In Kenneth Branagh's film, Mary Shelley's Frankenstein (1994), le monster, when Victor Frankenstein dies in the Arctic, the creature tells the crew the captain of the ship: He was my father. Which technically make him a Frankenstein. So his name is technically Franenstein
Patrick: "It's that time of year again where we all go creature crazy, and shine a spotlight on history's most infamous monsters. You know the classics; Dracula, the werewolf, the Mummy, *THATCHER*, Cthulhu and of course Frankenstein." Argentina approves!
I think the most devastating thing I take from the story is how I have personally witnessed parents as monstrous as Victor is to his creation to their own children. An unintended addition to the story's interpretation
Frankenstein is my favorite book as well! I read it every October, this was the 10th year now. I usually read it in Swedish, but I do have a English copy as well that I have read too.
A tiny thing about the pronunciation: Frankenstein is a German name. If there is the letter S followed by a T in German then you need to pronounce it as "sht" not just "st". So it sounds like "Shtein" not "Stein"... with "sh" sound.
Spoilers for a 200 year old book, but... It's appropriately symbolic that Victor died a shadow of a man, wasting away after running to the Arctic, while his creation... "Adam," died with dignity in a self-made funeral pyre.
The classic Universal film doesn't stray thematically as far as you suggest, though without a doubt the details diverge drastically. Henry (changed from Victor) is shown in a questionable light right from the first scene, where he and Fritz steal a corpse as soon as the mourners have left and the gravedigger has finished burying it. They then cut down a hanged man and discard the corpse because it's of no use to him. Most importantly, when he brings the creature to life he exclaims, "Now I know what it feels like to be God!!!" This line was so shocking that it was cut out of the print in some areas when the film was released. In the film he falls ill and is urged to return home, leaving the dissection of the creature to Dr. Waldman, who underestimates the amount of anaesthetic required and the monster kills him. As for the name, in Son of Frankenstein, Wolf rails against the stigma his family has endured and says that 9 people out of 10 call the creature... at which point a train conductor calls out, "Frankenstein!" Later in the film Ygor tells Wolf, "Your father made him. And Henry Frankenstein was your father, too!" To which Wolf asks Ygor if he is implying that the creature is his brother. Ygor responds by saying, "But his mother was lightning." The book and the classic Universal films do stray from each other, but they also have much in common beneath the surface. Sadly, the book doesn't have Dr. Praetorius, nor has he become as iconic to the general public as he ought to be.
I’m kind of sad you didn’t mention the Town of Frankenstein (today’s Zabkowice Slaskie in Poland). In the XVII-th century a group of Gravediggers was stealing bodies from a graveyard, in order to make poisonous medicaments they smeared on doorknobs around the city. The gravediggers were thus accused of satanic rituals and bringing the bubonic plague to the town. Proclaimed guilty, all were tortured and executed. German newspapers wrote about the incident, but quickly turned the group of 8 gravedigger into one, briefly called the Monster of Frankenstein. Mary Shelley reportedly knew this story, as told by her friends while visiting Prussia.
You got all the info across in a succinct way where it comes to misconceptions, misconstrued mistakes, and all we need to know about Frankenstein's monster. The creature is one of my favorite characters of all time, and I really think he could have to potential, as you said, to have the name Frankenstein, one way or the other.
If it's his creator's surname, than it should be his too. Victor Frankenstein was a deadbeat dad, and that's enough of a reason to call him a monster in my opinion.
While discussing Karloff as the monster at 2:55 you actually showed a still from House of Frankenstein with Boris Karloff playing Dr. Niemann and Glenn Strange. as the monster.
I remember when I was A little kid I knew the fankensteins monster being Frankenstein’s monster, I herd kids on my street &in school calling the monster Frankenstein instead of Frankenstein’s monster.
As a side note to the name "Frankenstein". Frankenstein was a town in pre-war Germany (Silesia (Breslau)) province. After WW2, these lands have been handed over to (my native) Poland. The town has been renamed to Ząbkowice Śląskie. I know it is quite unpronounceable. On a personal note, my late maternal grand-parents lived there. I visited them as a young child in the 80's.
There's one anime called Fate, namely Fate/Apocrypha in which people bring old historical figures in order to battle for holy grail which can grant you wishes. Intrestingly in there, they included what if version of frankenstein - Eve, the girl that meant to be paired with Adam
Yes. I used be that know it all. But then on my own I realized that they have a sort of father son relationship, and now I’m another kind of know it all.
When I was in English lit in school my class decided that since the creature had no official given name, we would give him one ourselves. We decided on Glen :)
I always cringe at the reading of Frankenstein as "science gone too far", when really Victor was just a shitty scientist (and negligent father figure). He's quick to condemn his creation when it comes to life, but he barely takes any measures to correct his mistakes, or prepare any measures in case something goes wrong. And when he freaks out and leaves, he never alerts anybody to the situation. In fact, when the monster kills someone, one of his friends get blamed and then executed, HE SAYS NOTHING! (also a shitty friend) What I'm saying is that Victor Frankenstein sucks.
The movie Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein, Abbott and Costello meets the monster named Frankenstein, they don't meet Dr. Frankenstein. Soo the monster is called Frankenstein in this movie. He is also called Jr. and Frankie in the movie.
Wouldn't the monster technically be classified as Frankenstein's son, and therefore be mononymously named "Frankenstein" (due to a lack of given first name)?
IF I had to name a monster, I’d name it “Ineffable” or something synonymous to that. Its because nobody knows nor is capable of seeing such a creature. The good news is that no innocents were harmed. The bad news is that criminals who survived couldn’t describe what the creature was… even criminals were swept away as if they disappeared; certain ones were killed & no more than two attacks at the exact same time, but at completely different locations were reported. Most reports have singular instances where only men are killed & women disappeared and the opposite happened; when the two happened at the exact same time, it implies that one ‘Ineffable’ is a male & the other a female, or something… All-in-all, its scarier than Batman…
"the real monster is man, therefore the "doctor", frankenstein, is the real monster, not adam, the reanimated corpse." did i guess right? can i get a cookie?
"People believing it was possible to bring the living back to life with electricity" -saying it in a sarcastic way. But clearly you have no idea how the defibrillator works.
In "Son of Frankenstein" it is established that the villagers and "nine out of ten people" allude to the Monster as Frankenstein because the name "has become synonymous with violence and monsters."
Am I the only one who thinks the story should have been about Wolf (the name of Henry's son) creating a new monster with dead kids parts and the original monster adopting him after Wolf reject him? So that would make everyone happy, because the title serves for both a son of Henry and a son of the monster
@@loschrodproductions4519 In the original script, of which there were several versions, the Monster kidnaps Peter and demands (because he could talk) that Wolf remove the boy's brain to stitch together a new "friend." Wolf pretends to operate and stabs the Monster with a scalpel. Needless to say, the Hayes office, and Boris Karloff, had problems with this approach.
Also, it seems Victor is just a terrible scientist in general. Even projects have a sort of name, or what some refer to as a non-name, with some sort of numbering system, that may or may not have characters from an alphabet (in the Western world, from what I can tell, that usually means the classic Greek alphabet with English alphabet acting a variant). At no point does Victor Frankenstein say or mention a categorization of the project to create life that the creature comes from; the closest we get is him saying things like "the experiment" or "my experiment" or "the project" or "my project" and so on. That all said there are some interesting parallels in history. For example, the are accounts the house of Frankenstein was in conflict, and possibly worse, with what we would now refer to as the house of Dracula. So, modern interpretations of the story that we have where Victor, or his creation, crossover with tales of Dracula being at odds with each other actually do have some historical foundation, even if the setting is a bit fantastical.
I would suggest the monster is called/name is now actually "Frankenstein's Monster" as everyone seems to agree on this. This does remind me a somewhat of '"The Artist formerly known as Prince" or maybe "The Doctor" (Who) and perhaps even "Mrs Slocombe's Pussy" xxx
Then his name is Adam. His last name could be Frankenstein as Victor created him BUT hes not actually a biological child of Frankenstein. "If enough people say it its so" . Well, thats BS! If everyone starts calling oranges puppies that doesnt change the correct name
So, you know the premise of this video is wrong on any possible level, but your conclusion is still that it's right because a lot of people wrongly say so... Wow!
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If you created a hideous, living, breathing, monstrosity, from the flesh of dead humans via electric and dark magic, what would you name it?
Patrick, I guess
Hey Patrick
Gooby
Kaiser Wilhelm
Adam
As the saying goes, "Knowledge is knowing that Frankenstein wasn't the monster. Wisdom is knowing that Frankenstein was the monster."
Came here to find this comment
You have the best point.
The scientist, not his creation.
Victor definitely wasn’t a doctor, he went into a two year stress coma after creating the Creature and dropped out of college
That's so me lol
He literally made a man, I think that's enough to consider him a great science professional(I know he abandoned his son, but anyway making him was an awesome science achievement)
I’m not sure if the title of doctor was a thing in the 1700s (a time when university was more of a hobby for the wealthy and very intelligent than a step in someone’s career) but Victor was brilliant and advanced enough in his academic career to have made improvements to various chemistry tools and have made quite a name for himself at the university so I think that’s good enough
"Feel free to insert any politician you dislike."
Uh oh.
Oh, that's too long a list, I can't mention EVERYONE
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I always thought it was called "Frankenstein's Monster".
However, I like the idea of the name, "Adam Frankenstein".
His name was Adam but Frankenstein would be his surname is the guess I have prior to watching.
He was never named adam, not anywhere.
" You must remember they didn't have RUclips or Netflix at the time" - people watching dead bodies twitching from electric shocks.
I've always heard it was because he took on Dr. Frankenstein's surname, being technically his child after all.
It truly makes me smile seeing someone else using GCSE English Lit knowledge
I actually live in a city in Germany that is like right next to Frankenstein's castle. Here we call it "Burg Frankenstein" and the American soldiers stationed here introduced a festival held every year on the castle on Helloween. Today it's also a popular local destination for hikers and cyclers but also for birthday parties and generally special events.
edit: it's not actually called Frankenstein's castle because of the book. Obviously the castle and its name existed before the book.
In Kenneth Branagh's film, Mary Shelley's Frankenstein (1994), le monster, when Victor Frankenstein dies in the Arctic, the creature tells the crew the captain of the ship: He was my father. Which technically make him a Frankenstein. So his name is technically Franenstein
Patrick: "It's that time of year again where we all go creature crazy, and shine a spotlight on history's most infamous monsters. You know the classics; Dracula, the werewolf, the Mummy, *THATCHER*, Cthulhu and of course Frankenstein."
Argentina approves!
DING DONG THE WICKED BITCH IS DEAD
One of my friends is actually called Frankenstein and she hates it...
Yeah cause she's the teacher's pet
she could get married lol
But how does she pronounce it?
@@russellharrell2747 Frung-can-sht-in
I think the most devastating thing I take from the story is how I have personally witnessed parents as monstrous as Victor is to his creation to their own children. An unintended addition to the story's interpretation
In Son of Frankenstein the Baron explains how the townsfolk have started calling him Frankenstein after his family name.
Man, I haven't watched Name Explain's videos since I got his book! Great video! I'm glad to be back watching your content!
Plot twist: hermoine Granger is Frankenstein's daughter
Victor or Adam?
Frankenstein is my favorite book as well! I read it every October, this was the 10th year now. I usually read it in Swedish, but I do have a English copy as well that I have read too.
Ah yes,Margaret Thatcher,the scariest monster of all times....
it sure did give me a shock
A tiny thing about the pronunciation:
Frankenstein is a German name.
If there is the letter S followed by a T in German then you need to pronounce it as "sht" not just "st".
So it sounds like "Shtein" not "Stein"... with "sh" sound.
"It came to her in a dream."
Yeah, makes sense
It would probly be easier to list politicians I don't consider monsters
Actually, Steven Spielberg named the shark "Bruce".
After his lawyer, apparently!
Im in Sydney a suburb near me is called Wollstonecraft - and its story is directly related back to the Mary Shelly story and family.
Spoilers for a 200 year old book, but...
It's appropriately symbolic that Victor died a shadow of a man, wasting away after running to the Arctic, while his creation... "Adam," died with dignity in a self-made funeral pyre.
The classic Universal film doesn't stray thematically as far as you suggest, though without a doubt the details diverge drastically. Henry (changed from Victor) is shown in a questionable light right from the first scene, where he and Fritz steal a corpse as soon as the mourners have left and the gravedigger has finished burying it. They then cut down a hanged man and discard the corpse because it's of no use to him. Most importantly, when he brings the creature to life he exclaims, "Now I know what it feels like to be God!!!" This line was so shocking that it was cut out of the print in some areas when the film was released. In the film he falls ill and is urged to return home, leaving the dissection of the creature to Dr. Waldman, who underestimates the amount of anaesthetic required and the monster kills him.
As for the name, in Son of Frankenstein, Wolf rails against the stigma his family has endured and says that 9 people out of 10 call the creature... at which point a train conductor calls out, "Frankenstein!" Later in the film Ygor tells Wolf, "Your father made him. And Henry Frankenstein was your father, too!" To which Wolf asks Ygor if he is implying that the creature is his brother. Ygor responds by saying, "But his mother was lightning."
The book and the classic Universal films do stray from each other, but they also have much in common beneath the surface. Sadly, the book doesn't have Dr. Praetorius, nor has he become as iconic to the general public as he ought to be.
I’m kind of sad you didn’t mention the Town of Frankenstein (today’s Zabkowice Slaskie in Poland). In the XVII-th century a group of Gravediggers was stealing bodies from a graveyard, in order to make poisonous medicaments they smeared on doorknobs around the city. The gravediggers were thus accused of satanic rituals and bringing the bubonic plague to the town. Proclaimed guilty, all were tortured and executed.
German newspapers wrote about the incident, but quickly turned the group of 8 gravedigger into one, briefly called the Monster of Frankenstein.
Mary Shelley reportedly knew this story, as told by her friends while visiting Prussia.
You got all the info across in a succinct way where it comes to misconceptions, misconstrued mistakes, and all we need to know about Frankenstein's monster.
The creature is one of my favorite characters of all time, and I really think he could have to potential, as you said, to have the name Frankenstein, one way or the other.
This was really good, keep up the good work!
If it's his creator's surname, than it should be his too. Victor Frankenstein was a deadbeat dad, and that's enough of a reason to call him a monster in my opinion.
That's FRONK-n-steen.
That’s right, Eye-gor!
@@jillchristensen5093 the told me it was igor
Abby Someone?
@@panelvixen Abby normal?
While discussing Karloff as the monster at 2:55 you actually showed a still from House of Frankenstein with Boris Karloff playing Dr. Niemann and Glenn Strange. as the monster.
Easily one of the greatest non-fiction of all of time.
It was Frankenstein's monster, lately shortened to just Victor's name.
Gee, with all this monster talking, I hope I won't dream of Margaret Thatcher tonight...
I remember when I was A little kid I knew the fankensteins monster being Frankenstein’s monster, I herd kids on my street &in school calling the monster Frankenstein instead of Frankenstein’s monster.
Excellent video, Patrick! Happy Halloween!
By the way, an "s" before a "t" is most of time pronounced as "sh" in German words and names.
8:30 "Bring the living back to life"?
As a side note to the name "Frankenstein". Frankenstein was a town in pre-war Germany (Silesia (Breslau)) province. After WW2, these lands have been handed over to (my native) Poland. The town has been renamed to Ząbkowice Śląskie. I know it is quite unpronounceable. On a personal note, my late maternal grand-parents lived there. I visited them as a young child in the 80's.
Thank you!
He’s not called Frankenstein, he’s called Adam.
However the doctor himself is a monster.
Expect he's not a doctor.
He technically would be a Frankenstein as the monster considers himself Victor Frankenstein's son and so he would inherit the surname.
Whilst you are celebrating Halloween in America we in India are celebrating Diwali. Happy Diwali to you all!
There's one anime called Fate, namely Fate/Apocrypha in which people bring old historical figures in order to battle for holy grail which can grant you wishes. Intrestingly in there, they included what if version of frankenstein - Eve, the girl that meant to be paired with Adam
A weird surname naming tradition is what happens in iceland, id suggest a video about this but dont have patreon
He does have a video on Icelandic names.
Yes. I used be that know it all. But then on my own I realized that they have a sort of father son relationship, and now I’m another kind of know it all.
Hell, my robot vacuum cleaner has its own name, how can you not name a golem that you made with your own hands?!
When I was in English lit in school my class decided that since the creature had no official given name, we would give him one ourselves. We decided on Glen :)
I always cringe at the reading of Frankenstein as "science gone too far", when really Victor was just a shitty scientist (and negligent father figure). He's quick to condemn his creation when it comes to life, but he barely takes any measures to correct his mistakes, or prepare any measures in case something goes wrong. And when he freaks out and leaves, he never alerts anybody to the situation. In fact, when the monster kills someone, one of his friends get blamed and then executed, HE SAYS NOTHING! (also a shitty friend)
What I'm saying is that Victor Frankenstein sucks.
The real monster is the person who points out the name isn't Frankenstein.
It doesn't relate to names, but the sisde by side images of Prometheus and Frankenstein in almost identical poses was beautiful
Thatcher - the scariest of them all!
You had me at Thatcher.
No amount of rationalization will convince me to call Frankenstein's monster Frankenstein. At least not as its first name.
The movie Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein, Abbott and Costello meets the monster named Frankenstein, they don't meet Dr. Frankenstein. Soo the monster is called Frankenstein in this movie. He is also called Jr. and Frankie in the movie.
"Woooo! Spooooky!" lol
Wait... So he did use electricity? I heard somewhere that it was never said in the book what he used to reanimate it but idk i haven't read it yet
yeah, that's what the bolts are for. connecting wires.
no, it’s unspecified to keep the lines of reality and science fiction blurred. The use of electricity comes from the film adaptation of the book
Small town of Bellevue Michigan, doctor there is a Dr Frankenstein.
Wouldn't the monster technically be classified as Frankenstein's son, and therefore be mononymously named "Frankenstein" (due to a lack of given first name)?
The book never spexifies that the body was animated with electricity...? Unless i missed something...
You forgot to add that prometheus was eventually saved by Hercules.
Thatcher is truly the most evil of all
You should do the Dakota's
I've won money on this question! He's called the Monster or the Creature.
IF I had to name a monster, I’d name it “Ineffable” or something synonymous to that. Its because nobody knows nor is capable of seeing such a creature. The good news is that no innocents were harmed. The bad news is that criminals who survived couldn’t describe what the creature was… even criminals were swept away as if they disappeared; certain ones were killed & no more than two attacks at the exact same time, but at completely different locations were reported. Most reports have singular instances where only men are killed & women disappeared and the opposite happened; when the two happened at the exact same time, it implies that one ‘Ineffable’ is a male & the other a female, or something…
All-in-all, its scarier than Batman…
Ok, call the monster Frankenstein all right. But Victor Frankenstein can't be called a "Dr.", can he?
Hey, he didn’t go to Mad Doctor School all those years just be called ‘Mr.’
I find it fitting that The Creature is called Adam by fans because Adam and Eve were the first humans
"the real monster is man, therefore the "doctor", frankenstein, is the real monster, not adam, the reanimated corpse."
did i guess right?
can i get a cookie?
"People believing it was possible to bring the living back to life with electricity"
-saying it in a sarcastic way.
But clearly you have no idea how the defibrillator works.
The definition says inhuman not inhumane. Yes I can believe you got a C.
THATCHER OMG thank u patrick
This really isn't a great way to treat your son
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Call the monster Frankenstein Jr.
Did they really think they could bring the living back to life with electricity?
Frankenstein did not come back with the milk 😞
I call the creation Edgar Winter.
Are there any Shelleys left?
Personally, I've always considered the monster's name to be Adam, but I suppose "--" works too.
In "Son of Frankenstein" it is established that the villagers and "nine out of ten people" allude to the Monster as Frankenstein because the name "has become synonymous with violence and monsters."
Am I the only one who thinks the story should have been about Wolf (the name of Henry's son) creating a new monster with dead kids parts and the original monster adopting him after Wolf reject him? So that would make everyone happy, because the title serves for both a son of Henry and a son of the monster
@@loschrodproductions4519 In the original script, of which there were several versions, the Monster kidnaps Peter and demands (because he could talk) that Wolf remove the boy's brain to stitch together a new "friend." Wolf pretends to operate and stabs the Monster with a scalpel. Needless to say, the Hayes office, and Boris Karloff, had problems with this approach.
@@DetectiveKemper Frankenstein: Hey Brother, I caught your son, now take out his brain and make me a kid
Franken isn't much a monster except an intelligent zombie.
Flesh golem
Also, it seems Victor is just a terrible scientist in general. Even projects have a sort of name, or what some refer to as a non-name, with some sort of numbering system, that may or may not have characters from an alphabet (in the Western world, from what I can tell, that usually means the classic Greek alphabet with English alphabet acting a variant). At no point does Victor Frankenstein say or mention a categorization of the project to create life that the creature comes from; the closest we get is him saying things like "the experiment" or "my experiment" or "the project" or "my project" and so on.
That all said there are some interesting parallels in history. For example, the are accounts the house of Frankenstein was in conflict, and possibly worse, with what we would now refer to as the house of Dracula. So, modern interpretations of the story that we have where Victor, or his creation, crossover with tales of Dracula being at odds with each other actually do have some historical foundation, even if the setting is a bit fantastical.
I have a Ford. My wife has a Dyson. I guess that's case closed?
So, Adam's surname was god?
I would suggest the monster is called/name is now actually "Frankenstein's Monster" as everyone seems to agree on this. This does remind me a somewhat of '"The Artist formerly known as Prince" or maybe "The Doctor" (Who) and perhaps even "Mrs Slocombe's Pussy" xxx
Then his name is Adam. His last name could be Frankenstein as Victor created him BUT hes not actually a biological child of Frankenstein. "If enough people say it its so" . Well, thats BS! If everyone starts calling oranges puppies that doesnt change the correct name
It’s famous to call the monster Frankenstein because theirs no other name giving so we call the monster Frankenstein instead
10:44 I disagree !!! I never names a plant after it sprouted from the seed. How much of a monster am I?
I like to believe that his name is Steve.
"Thatcher"
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So what you're saying is... Zelda COULD be the boy?
So, you know the premise of this video is wrong on any possible level, but your conclusion is still that it's right because a lot of people wrongly say so... Wow!
Its Frankensteins Monster not just frankenstein
Or the Alien of the movie Alien.
Which is a Xenomorph so call it Alien to annoy cinema fans.
Tatcher, LMFAO
You should explain the names of the X-men
I just call him Greg.
Monster Thatcher! Lol.
But what about his first name? Frankenstein is a surname.
Meddl Loide!
lmao thatcher