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- Опубликовано: 24 мар 2024
- New Dealership SCAM
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How to protect yourself,
Step 1: Stop being stupid!
The END!
Facts!
Maybe don’t even start being stupid is better
If you can do everything in person at the dealership. Even if the dealership is asking for a down payment to hold the car, just simplely refuse and tell them that you will be in as quickly as possible, or just put $100 down on yr CC,. and likewise just walk away. You can always report scam through CC to get your refund of $100.. Don't trust anyone, even the people at the dealership over the phone. See them in person at the dealership. Best wishes and good luck!
It really is that simple. Being skeptical keeps me safe
Lmao 🤣
Really appreciate the honest work you do. One important part to remember is to not fall into the trap of lifestyle creep. I didn't buy a SUV on your advice in 2022-2023. Still very happy with my paid off 2017 Mazda 6 even with a new little one
thanks
When you are committing to buying a high ticket item like a car or house you NEVER WANT TO BUY IT ONLINE sight unseen. Pictures don't mean 💩. You have to be able to put your hand on it otherwise keep walking. Basic common sense if you ask me. Even without scammers you can be buying a car that your bad back wont be comfortable in after sitting for 20 minutes or you can be buying a car that looks great on the left side but it's banged up on the right where there's no pictures or the pictures were taken really far away.
For me, I would have no idea if the car would even be a good fit (I'm not a skinny short guy) until I can sit inside one; test driving is also a must. I can return a pair of pants if they don't fit, an SUV? Not so much!
@@Steve_in_NJ Hell yeah, people be using the Internet today like it's 1998. We have to get wise and smarten up and catch up with the times.
If someone is dumb enough to send 5k without seeing the car then it's hard to feel bad for them.
Ordinarily, I would agree, but, CARVANA and others advertise on TV 24 hours a day that you can buy a car online, have it delivered to your door, and you never have to get off the couch. It's only surprising that it doesn't happen more often.
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"There's a sucker born every minute" - P.T. Barnum
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that."--George Carlin
Sad but true. Especially in 2024 lol
Ran out of suckers I guess, they closed down.
He was off by about 59 seconds
What's sad is if scammers put their efforts into making legitimate money they'd probably be successful with how much effort they put into scamming.
Doubtful.
facts!
Theyll spent 24 hours scamming so they dont have to work 8 hours.
@@Protocol15 by what measure? Scamming has a short shelf life before you have to use your brain power to come up with a new scam as the scam will only last days/weeks. To think of a scam you have to have intelligence, ingenuity, have some basic grasp of marketing (in most cases), excellent communication to close the sale/scam. If you get into the physical aspects in the car market you have to learn to fake documents, fake vins, swap vins all these are learned skills. Everything adds up and yes, someone probably made $20K to $100K off this scam. But with the skills this person has to pull this off they probably could easily make over 6 figures a year using those skills legitimately (most likely mid 6 figures if they sell high ticket items) or 7 figures using those skills, for example, starting online marketing firm. If you think they can't use these skills to make serious, legitimate, and steady income that rivals the intermittent quick hits of scams then respectfully, I say, you're wrong (and I'm going by the measure that "It's not even close" - in your words - not only is it close, I'd be willing to bet they'd make more in the long run legitimately).
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Dealers dont like scammers because they hate competition. 🤣
lol
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😂 bullseye
It’s their own medicine.
$5k, $10k .ouch, those are some expensive life lessons.
LOL the dealers had to work to salvage the reputation from scams that were not their own. I call that karma.
Most scams work on a few common factors... #1 The deal is too good to be true. People get caught up in the amazing price etc and willfully ignore tons of red flags. The second most common tactic is fear, fear of missing out or fear of consequences for not participating.
Wow, this is insane! I never even thought about this type of scam. Thanks for sharing this info, Lucky! I almost bought a car online last month and definitely would have fallen for this. Upvoting to spread awareness! 👇
Thanks for taking the time to educate people. It benefits EVERYONE
I appreciate your videos and efforts to educate car buyers. My experience with car dealers has been pretty bad but the thing I hate most is when I call to ask a question and they load my name and number into their CRM program and I get calls for the next six months asking if Im still interested in buying the car 🚗.
Wow, crazy story! I'm surprised the FBI hasn't gotten involved in investigating this.
Why should the FBI get involved? That's a waste of taxpayer money. Nothing can protect you if you are this foolish.
Too busy trying to go after Trump
@@danielmiedema5836 Beat me to it
They’re too busy going after Trump and his supporters.
@@danielmiedema5836 also for fraudulent scamming type behavior I believe right? 😂
Of course, somebody dumb enough to send money without any corroboration was trying to buy a charger or a challenger. It was going to look great outside their single wide. I guess it's back to the Nissan dealership with them; maybe get one of those hot Altimas
Hahahaha, making some assumptions
lol
@@Rhinozzzz yeah, everyone knows demographically it would be parked outside section 8 lol!
Assumptions but he's probably not that far off the mark. 😆
Tf
Great info, I have bought a brand new car from a franchised dealer 100% online with 0 down and the car sight unseen. I made sure the credit app was directly docu signed and sent to the finance institute, not some man in the middle. 3 Weeks later I got back from vacation and went to pick up the car and no fuss. Like you said, it comes down to being meticulous in handling business transaction and somewhat tech savvy, you should be able to spot scam easily.
Was this an out-of-state dealer? As was mentioned in the video, in some states an online transaction with an out-of-state dealer can be a problem when trying to register the vehicle in the state of residence.
@@g0989 it was an in state purchase. The only reason I had to do that was because it was a sought after car I already put a deposit on more than 1 year and finally showed up while I was on vacation. I had to buy it remotely otherwise they would sell to others.
If you are going to deal with dishonest people, just go to a dealership.
Seems like there's a scam around every corner.
feel like they are getting more creative every month
Scams only work because people are dumb.
Scams work because people are mostly dumb.
Lucky,
Wow man!! This scam is "next level". Thanks for putting this out there for us!
The Social Media platforms bear some of the responibilty for not taking down the scammer sites even ATFER being reported.
Imagine if they actually put all of that energy into doing something productive. I was told of a study done in the UK that factoring in take and prison time, most criminals made less than minimum wage. Thanks for another great video, Lucky.
Happened at dealership I worked at at least 5 times. Guy walks in wanting to pick up a land cruiser he put 5k down on. The scammers had made a website used our dealership name, address and different email, phone but loaded pics of high end Suv priced way too cheap.
did quite a few online deals during covid, all brand new and verified dealer, also called physical address......never gave money over the phone.......never had a problem and only signed papers when physically in possession of vehicle......it save a ton of time on negotiating, driving around, also was able to contact many more dealers for better price
was in the dealership maybe 20-30 min max at all of them and 1 delivered it to my house, signed papers on my porch.....
people been buying cars like this for along time, most just never heard of it
just have to be smart about it
This is good to know but not surprising, just like purchasing any used car, ALWAYS put your "hands on it" never buy site-unseen. Thanks Lucky.
A month ago I purchased a car sight unseen and had it delivered. I had heard that Victory GMC in Kansas had purchased 100 off lease Chevy Bolts. The dealers in my area were adding 4K to the price rather than reducing the price by the tax credit. I did everything you suggested and took about 2 weeks before I wired them the money. In addition I had a video sent to me with specific questions to be addressed so I was confident it was legitimate. Thankfully all went well.
This short video is packed with unreal info. Who has Facebook anymore? Wow! Just unbelievable 😮
Another day in stupid America! Ugh… god help this Country.
Don’t wire money. Send a cashier check to dealership physical location. Thats the last line to protect yourself.
You had me at "2019 Dodge Charger".
GREAT ADVICE.
Challenger / Atlanta... no suprise there. they do everything here but work
I wont do anything on line. I will shop but no money will pass hands until I am in person.
During the pandemic a lot of dealers (used and new) would do a phone video with you and show you the car. It would allow you to see the background so you could see if it was a real dealership or not. I was looking at buying a used car in 2020 when prices 'tanked' but never pulled the trigger on a deal. These days there's no way I'd buy a car from a web photo, I'm going to need to see it, put hands on it, and put a key in the ignition.
Who tf buys a car without seeing it in person or some kind of verification?
I feel sorry for those who were scammed, but I guess I'm old fashioned enough to not be on Facebook and i like to see an actual car and check it out before I buy. I would never buy a car unless it was in person.
“Everyone thinks dealerships are 👿 “
I wonder how that happened😂
The amount of effort these scammers go through is insane and is why it’s easy to fall for. The worst part besides the money is feeling stupid for falling for it. Money comes and goes but that feeling never stops
Scammers are running rampant because the consequences aren't enough of a deterrent.
Very true. they get a slap on the wrist and let go
@@LuckyLopez777 Yes. Most likely they are not even tracked down. They would be extremely easy to catch too.
Bought a motorcycle new from a dealer that had the warranty start months early. I bought an extended warranty factory one and now that’s reduced as if I bought the car months before I did. 50 days later and still no registration or title. All my paperwork says new and the bike had 3 miles on it
My niece went to the Nissan dealer in Valdosta, GA. and bought a car. She financed through the dealer. She got approved and took the car home. A few days later she got a call from the dealership teller her to tell the bank she made $500 more a month than she told them she made. When she wouldn't lie for them the bank wouldn't fund the loan. She took the car back And the dealer didn't want to refuned her down payment because she didn't lie for them. The ended up refund it but acted like she was the one in the wrong. Have you ever heard of this?
It’s pretty common to just lie and say u make a little more to get approve for a loan if u know u can pay for it and like the car , by law they can’t ask your employer how much u make so u fudge it a little to get approve, everyone does it
As long as she wasn’t getting screwed on the interest rates and fees , the deal would’ve been fine , no one going to jail for saying they made a extra $500 😂
What’s the dealership that Robert operates? I’m looking for a car in Atlanta. Thank you
Hey lucky please tell me you know of loyalty auto sales in Las Vegas😅 I only bring it up because whenever you mention repos I think of there lot and the MASS amount of chargers they get weekly 😂
Is the stupidity of people that keep this scammer doing this. Who’s in the right mind send money like that. You call the dealer you make an appointment, you go in person. If is out of state you still go in person and if the car is gone then is gone.
Wow! Thanks!
Great video Lucky
Thanks Brother. hope all is well coming to vegas anytime soon?
Eek, I’d rather have my toenails pulled out then to go in to a car dealership. Well, I don’t want to be scammed either. There’s got to be another way around it.
Shelf falling down in the background really messing me up lol
whats falling down? my shelf is. good?
@@LuckyLopez777Probably the camera angle.
You lost me at Facebook Marketplace. Customer learned an expensive lesson, life is kinda funny that way. Anyways, on to Lucky’s next doom and gloom video. 😑 🔥
Scam and dealership have always gone together lol. Nothing new. Like peanut butter and jelly.
Scams like this is all over. I was looking for a place to rent off facebook marketplace and I constantly ask the person like me see the place but they keep insisting they want an application fees and down payment for seeing the place.
cell phone sim clones to scam banks, now this. Everything is moving back to in person.
Only a fool would buy a vehicle online sight unseen.
Facts!
being broke and owning nothing is growing on me. Everything is fine...😮
Being broke and owing nothing is ahead of most people.
feels like thats the future
It’s not you’re broke and now you have an excuse
The biggest scam of all is The Treasury Department and The Fed.
#changemymind
Bull if you do it smart it works real good just bought a 2014 gc sight unseen only on web
Hey lucky I was making phone calls to the Matt hate dealership when the whole thing was going on I spoke to the guy and he was full of crap The main guy and then TK's garage and OC motivator yourself and buttered the insider All great videos I know I work in the auto industry and know how people are
facts!
@@LuckyLopez777 actually through OC motivator I subscribe to your channel we correspond up on his channel all the time I got my my super bead wide body last call at sticker paid $63 146 for it and it's the wide body the a plum crazy any help that I can give you I've been in the car business for over 45 years I've done it all from vice president of roadster wheels to president of Avanti motor vehicles to own custom shops here in Las Vegas
Also with such big deals always go face to face.
The law must be changed so SCAMMERs get heavy sentences for these things. It's about time!
If it sounds to good to be true it is. Do not buy on line go to the dealer in person and check the Dealer out.
The punishment should be severe for online scams, but lawmakers are very busy with other important for them things. Look at Florida how they approached the problem with squatters, it was very fast, but not much happened in other states.
what is sad is that dealerships have such a bad reputation of being sleazy that it is absolutely believable they would try to scam a customer. This particular dealership and "Robert" may be good and honest but this industry is so filled with people willing and ready to take advantage of a customer who may not be as good at negotiations as someone else the dealership taking money and denying it would be totally believable.
Scams are easy to spot. Putting $ down, pre purchase is the big red flag
Extended auto warranty scammers are right next to this
I’m struggling with the idea of buying a used car without looking at it first.
You said the scammers are buying vehicles with that money.. how many of those scammers are just keeping the money and the information to use later for something else .....?
As a mechanic we always said Never buy something sight unseen sure way to get burnt if you do.!
Yeah, I never buy anything over $100 unless it's in person. If I'm buying a car, it's worth flying there in person to put hands on it. Even when you're not dealing with a scammer... cars always look better in pictures than in person.
For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. Hence online sales
Oh no,scammers are now destroying the good reputation car dealers have 😅
Wow
I look into places online I buy from before spending anything
Couldn’t imagine sending thousands, when I worry about $35 purchases
Lol
Great info.
thanks
Lucky, I realize you have a ton of subscribers and will most likely not respond but I am trying to get a 2011 Colorado out of Phoenix and I don't know what that market is doing. Any thoughts. Can I get a deal or pony up the dough.
To be honest with you, I would stay away from that truck you’re gonna have too many issues with the ABS systems and the engine. Especially since you’re in Phoenix any population as a high Latino. Market you will never get a truck for cheap because unfortunately a lot of them use it for work and they will pay top dollar
face to face only, cash is king!
If only these criminals can use their creativity for the good, instead of scamming people.
Facts!
"Dodge Challenger" Well that seems like a red flag right there. I mean, who's going to scam you over a little Civic?
Wonder how the collapse of the Francis Scott bridge will affect the incoming months
Now all these loans are crashing down... Good for used car market to come back to reality
The best scam was at small moms and pops dealers. The customer and the dealer would charge 20k-50k extra for a car. The bank would approve selling a used c class lets say for 50k and not at 20k. And the customer would knowingly give the dealer 5k and pocket rest of the cash at a very low interest rate.
It would have never happened if people weren't so in a hurry or lazy to just call the dealership directly and not on facebook. Tech has made people stupid.
imagine what ai will do when it gets used by scammers...
Scammers act like dealers, or dealers acting like scammers. Same coin, different sides.
Buying a car completely online is the dumbest thing ever. Like how do you know you even fit in the stupid thing.
Facts
Or if the car has been smoked in.
I bought two Teslas online without sitting in them.... good thing I fit...
The problem is dealers bitching about factory online sales. They deserve this. Tesla dose not have this problem.
I was selling my Van on FB market, scammer from out of state wanted me to do auto background check using his auto car history check from his website he recommend. HAHAAHAH! Website requires you to sign up and enter a credit card number, but they won’t charge u for a car history check. Dude pressure me so hard. I was like, why not just do a carfax? He was like no, this website is free but requires you to input a credit card info just in case u want to do more then 5+ vehicles history check. Dude message me for weeks everyday trying to get me to sign up. I stand my ground and said go away scammer! Nope!
Buying a car without first giving it a physical inspection is, in my opinion very foolish. It amazes me that anyone would do it. Most scams only work because people are willing to blindly trust people they have never met. Most scams would end overnight if people would just take a few minutes to verify things before acting.
It is amazing how many people say that all dealers are scammers. That is a very stupid assumption. We hear horror stories about them, so that part is true. It happens in every profession, but how about the millions and millions of good stories? The good is always much bigger than the bad, otherwise 38.6 million cars used and new sold in 2022 were all robberies.
When AI really kicks in it will only get worse.
Really thought he was going to expose the discounts scam that dealerships are using to lower the online price without actually lowering the real price for those that dont qualify. I have called countless dealerships and found out i cant buy at the price i seen online if i dont have a trade or finance with them or buy extras. My nieghbor was planned to by a highlander on sat but found out he didnt qualify for 6k of discounts so the car was 3k over budget
Only I'd I ever let dealer see in my driver's license
Here is the scam: raise MSRP 30% gradually over 3 year period. Then offer 5-10% off so buyer thinks they are getting deal. Healthcare system (hospitals & Drs) have been doing it for years. Its why health insurance companies only pay them .70 - .80 cents on a dollar. You should be doing the same and if they don't accept...extend your lease until they do.
How many car dealers do you converse with on Facebook? IDK
I want to be part of your discord
Stupid is as stupid does.
Another day, another scam! When will the madness end!?
Probably never
Those scammers are just Ford Lightning salesmen padding their numbers for Q1 2024.
This is an argument to buy local from longtime dealer with good reputation.
The big issue here is buying on credit, pay cash in person. Problem solved.
Shut down Facebook and a few other social media sites would help minimize the scam opportunity.
The scamming like this is becoming more popular because people are more dolt than ever.
Pretty smart scammers!! WOW!
they are makeing better scams every year
Dealerships are the scammers now
Scammers need to get a real job!