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- Опубликовано: 19 авг 2024
- Today we're going to be talking about Klay Thompson and Chris Paul leaving the Warriors, and how the team has completely ruined their future. If you guys enjoyed this video, be sure to hit the like button and slap the sub button with your nose (also the bell).
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Warriors offered Klay 2yrs/$48mm last summer which was his market value. He declined and wants 3 yrs/$75mm+ in FA. He is not worth that kind of money so not sure why you feel the Warriors are committing malfeasance here. Lacob has been adamant that paying continuing to pay exorbitant luxury taxes for going way over the salary cap isn’t feasible any more.
This. I don't know how anyone can criticize the Warriors front office, when the owner has paid hundreds of millions in luxury tax over the years to win championships. People are acting like the Warriors are supposed to be run like a charity and just give out money to anyone and everyone who's demanding it, regardless of how much it hurts the organization. The new CBA is finally going to come down hard on super teams, and they're not winning championships with Klay anyways, so there's no real reason to pay exorbitant luxury taxes to keep the team together.
I actually think it’s great for the team’s success that Klay is gone. He was essential for the dynasty but at this point he’s just too inefficient and borderline not good anymore. Thanks to Klay for his contribution to the dynasty. But at the end of the day, he had multiple opportunities to prove that he could be the Klay of old again. But zero points in 38 minutes in a win or go home game was the straw that broke the camel’s back.
I know I’m gonna get a lot of hate for this, but I am glad that Klay Thompson is gone and I feel like it is an even bigger slap in the face that Klay Thompson is willing to take a pay cut to join the Lakers or clippers if that report is true and regardless he has an ego. We offered him a contract that he is worth and he thinks he is worth more because of his ego. He has an ego complex and that was even more evident when a report came out that said Klay Thompson was unhappy with coming off with the bench, even though he was very productive coming off the bench, and he was was one of the least productive starters in the league statistically. His shot selection is poor, his ego is big, and he was taking minutes away from B Pod and Moses. Now Kerr is forced to play Moses. One last thing to note is our record since Klay Thompson returned from consecutive lower body injuries in January of 2022 is very underwhelming and before he returned we was a great team on pace for 60 wins
Klay's attitude when he came back was the most difficult thing that he never got better with. He was resentful, wanted everything to be the same and refused to modernize his overall package meaning his look, his swag, his attitude. He came back a grumpy resentful old man and never snapped out of it. Sad.
CORRECT!!!
It all started with that max contract Draymond green got. Draymond is a cancer. The warriors should have never given him that max extension. I’ll take Klay over dray anytime because Draymond can’t score for shit.
Thank you. Everybody act like Draymond Green is Michael Jordan. This man is not that good. He was blessed to play along side steph and Klay. If he was not on that team he would never have won 4 rings.
@@reginalddumas4525 :o
But he wears number 23 and punched his teammate, plus he has Jordan's teammate as a coach. He has to be the Jordan 2.0
The Warriors ended it by not playing the young guys. Moody has been more effective than Klay, Kuminga is ready to be the 2nd guy behind Steph but Kerr is too afraid to make moves
Looks like they’re gonna do that now
Yet wanna keep the young guys over championship winning pieces
@@user-ge8wp1rs3v championship days are over
Which is why they had an out with Kerr and re signed him for 2 yrs
you guys all stupid, the players you talked about all trashes
You want to take Zach Lavine and that atrocious contract? dude quit basketball youtube
Mdj is doing his best and is getting heat for it
@@djadondaman17 these warriors fans are so dumb they dont know how contracts and cap space work
Klay ended his time in Golden State. Klay was paid 2yrs max while injured and acts like he owes them nothing. Klay's contract was going to be a problem and Bob Meyers knew it and left. Klay is way to sensitive and Bob knew it.
Bob was a coward. When it got tough he left. Easy to be a Great gm when u have a dynasty. At that point all u gotta do is not screw it up
@@djadondaman17it was never bob it was always Jerry west
No. Father Time ended their dynasty. That’s how this works. Klay caught an ACL and an Achilles. You don’t recover from those and return to the same player, particularly 30+ years old. Everyone is old.
They kept that core together for over a decade won multiple titles. They got everything they could from it.
Also, there was no serious trade partner that was willing to take on Chris Paul’s contract.
I agree with a lot of the points, and as a Dubs fan the Klay situation does bum me out, but basketball-wise it's probably time to move on and give Moody a chance. This likely won't be a championship season, but it will be a season to finally get the finances straight and let the young core of Kuminga, Moody, Podziemski and Jackson-Davis grow. I'm looking forward to watching that. Also I'm super glad we didn't trade for Zach Lavine, a guy who plays no defense and has a contract that likely would have hard-capped us for years.
MOODY MOODY IS READY
Championship potential is birthed in the Front Office. And it can be killed there just as quickly.
Soon as dunleavy became gm every thing started going downhill
@@gdgjjjkkk it went downhill much much earlier. tldr, the warriors haven't had a competent gm since jerry west
@@rishijagtap8593 bob Myers’s wasn’t too bad, but I see where ur coming from
Bob is getting a pass for leaving his dirty laundry that mdj is cleaning up
They need to trade Steph for 6 first round picks before his production starts to drop and along with his value I’m ready for the rebuild and y’all should be to
Does Klay forget that the dubs gave him a max contract while he had a torn Achilles. Like the Warriors owe him? For 75 m he recovered
On top of his Healthcare being free, getting top notch surgeons, physical therapists, trainers, dieticians, medical technology, etc. Most people struggle to get basic Healthcare, and this guy got the best in the world for no charge.
nah Klay was the one who ended the Dynasty.
golden state was the team that refused to give him the contract
him being greedy ended it for sure
@@BlueDevilRoblox they’re already gave him max for 2 years when he was injured . Plus,He’s already not perfoming like a max player and He’s not even on par with Kevin Love at this point . Ask any organization that want him right now after that 0pts ,0/10 performance.
@@BlueDevilRoblox they refused to give a big max contract and he got paid tons for two seasons injured and isn't the same player he once was, he a greedy b.tch
@@kaitotatsuya bro taking one game into consideration to judging Klay as a whole. Ur like the definition of a casual. Klay averaged 19 ppg and 41 percent from 3 in 28 minutes since January. Yea he did have an inconsistent season overall. Golden state should at least give him a deal that is respectable
HE SHOULD HAVE TAKEN A PAY CUT!!!
what rended the dynasty was klays greed
Since Warriors is on a reset phase, they should trade Draymond Green + picks for Lauri Markkanen. Now you have two 7-footers that can rebound, protect the rim, shoot 3s and stretch the floor for Kuminga and Beekman to slash
C - Quinten Post (2-way center with 43% 3PT)
PF - Lauri Markkanen
SF - Jonathan Kuminga
SG - Reece Beekman (2-way quick player with passing skills)
PG - Steph Curry
2nd lineup
C - Kevon Looney
PF - Trayce Jackson-Davis
SF - Lindy Waters III (Splash Waters)
SG - Moses Moody (6th man)
PG - Brandin Podziemski
This may not be a win-now scenario this coming season but will be a dominant team the following season.
They did make an extension but he refused it.
I appreciate the moments Klay gave us as fan and I’m going to miss him. But he’s not what he used to be and his ego was hurting the team. It’s time to let the younger guys get their opportunity.
Exactly he making it seem like we hate klay. No klay ego was hurt and he has vindictive spouse behavior. Call it what it is. Don't blame the organization for paying him for 2 yrs 80 mil while he was at his lowest and very supportive. I guess we forgot about that tho
While the Warriors front office deserve a lot of blame for a lot of things, the handling of Klay's contract is not one of them. From the info available in the public domain it just seems like Klay thought he was being low balled and the Warriors thought they were being fair. At this point in Klay's career the only scenarios in which he could have stayed with the Dubs were either Klay recognizing that he's declining and taking a pay cut without being offended by the offer or the Warriors deciding that winning isn't as much of a priority and want to take care of Klay regardless of outcome. Since neither of those options were likely to happen, Klay leaving the Dubs was always the most likely outcome. But like you said, Klay is a Warriors legend and should always be loved and respected by the fans.
But the franchise player-Klay Thompson-has to want to come back! And nothing he is doing matches what he was saying! Klay has allowed a poor shooting night to bring everyone down. Sorry-love what Klay has done as a Dubs, but he got huge pay when he was injured two years-and he is no longer a defensive player. It was at the end of the season and coming off the bench that had him playing good. And he is not acting like how he was talking about the Dubs and wanting to stay. And I feel bad that he is acting this way because it is gonna affect Steph and everyone else! Good luck Klay and I hope you are treated and supported elsewhere as you were with the Dubs.
this is the best time for a transition and rebuild while steph still him, moving to a big and younger core
Re watching the 941 days documentary hurts 💔💔 that was one of my favorite vids on this platform...
The warriors handled this very poorly
I think Klay is handling this poorly honestly.
Gsw did the best they could
@@djadondaman17yes the dubs did the best they could given both, how important it was/is to not hit the 2nd apron, AND given how strict the new rules are if they went over that 2nd apron
(I really don't think people understand how stuck the Warriors were btwn a rock and a hard place with the new cpa rules... they were trying to 1st aquire a new 2nd option to help Curry & Klay due to the fact that they weren't chip worthy by themselves. Then, after acquiring that new 2nd option, they were trying to somehow keep Klay! All of that proved to be impossible and the gamble backfired. But I don't blame the dubs fo for trying. Klay, being Klay couldn't wait to see how things played out and took the 'waiting' as a slight and flipped the F out... all because he thinks he should still be treated like a max player, which he isn't any more.
I honestly believe that one day, the whole time-line of how everything played out these last few days will become public knowledge and Klay will feel regret and realize that he maybe could have handled the situation better with a little more realistic outlook, behavior and patience, realizing that the Warriors FO wasn't trying to screw him over and that they were truly stuck trying to solve an impossible situation. That is, keeping the big 3 together forever, contend for a chip, let the youngins develop and finally to avoid financial ruin for the foreseeable future.
mismanagement and greediness ended the dynasty. they thought they could do a 2 timeline thing when they should have absolutely traded the wiseman pick, the kuminga pick, and even the moody pick for impact veterans back in 2020/2021. instead they kept these young guys without developing them and then gave up wiseman for basically nothing, and then traded poole and other assets to bring in chris paul just to waive him for absolutely nothing. now they are out on paul george, and there’s no real moves that the warriors can make to make enough improvements to move the needle enough to get back to the finals, and with that knowledge you’re gonna let klay walk for nothing despite not putting together a competitive roster? just awful.
Still won a championship in 22 so 🤷🏾♂️
@@MelloWyatt won a championship with only jordan poole as the main and basically only contributor of the young players, which i didn’t say anything about having should have been traded. in fact i implied that trading poole was a mistake. the first major mistake that dunlevy made, because getting a 38yo chris paul for poole and attaching additional assets to CP was getting fleeced for poole and it was obvious at the time of the trade too. i get that you had to trade poole after draymond punched him but for a 38yo 6’0 guard in a guard heavy roster that desperately needed size and defense, the choice wasn’t just a bad return in value for a 22yo but a baffling one.
Bob Myers left us high and dry the coward
Although I loved watching Klay on the Warriors it's definitely time to move on.
I’m a fan of many NBA teams and The Warriors for the west is one of my favorites. At one point, the team looked like it was set to have the next gen to fill the roles of Steph, Klay, and Draymond with JP, Gary, Wiggins, and Kuminga and Donte before he left keeping the 3 point branding of the team alive really.
They were solid to at least have them grow more and more but the management of the team has decline because if they had baby versions of the OGs build around that and continue to draft new/current players to keep it strong without rebuilding it completely
If ever Klay went to the Lakers thru the sign-and-trade method, might as well get Austin Reaves in exchange, right?
They cooked bro 😭
Thank You Klay for all the great memories! You will ALWAYS BE a beloved warrior!
Terrible take. If you actually watched games, Wiggins had more good games than Lavigne. He can fit next to any star player combo and will be a positive asset. Klay on a 20m+ contract or Lavigne on his will be negative value contracts unless they are expiring 2 years from now.
The new CBA played a large part in this. I hate losing Klay, but I do t feel like he was disrespected either. Also no trade is better than a bad trade. No one In their right mind is grabbing Zach Lavigne for Wiggins and cp3. Cause under the new CBA you’re likely losing Kuminga and Podz.
Dunleavy needs to go
The only 2 players that should be kept are Steph & Dray
Wiggins needs to be moved now
We need NAZ REID
As long as Warriors have Steph they have a chance, Steph just need stability to shine, his number dropped cause of al the drama that happened at the back of the season. Steph can carry and thats why he won clutch player of the year. Klay and Draymond's ego's are why warriors have stuck in so many situation these past years, and Steph trying to be there guy has allowed that to continue for this long, new GM is doing great he just need to get more ruthless like the former Celtics GM
Warriors fo is so horrible like they aren’t even trying
Losing Wiggs for zach lavine is crazyyy...warriors did the right thing there...and abt Klay going out...its more on Klay than the dubs
Guys come on stop searching for reasons if we knew the reason since years. They are just getting old! That’s it
At this point might as well trade dray wiggins too
Exactly maybe you get something for Wiggins
just wigs
Not saying it would’ve much easier, but another problem was Kerr leaning too far into one aspect of coaching. He put the core’s egos over everything else and now they’re more entitled, the offense became more stagnant, the connectivity between players is horrible on defense, and youngest don’t get to help with carrying the load as much as they should.
They still have Curry, they have the young guys and cap space for next year, kuminga might be ready for the jump, no need in taking Lavine or getting something in return, they are going to be back next year. Until that the Warriors still one of the most entertaining teams to watch.
team couldn't compete anymore. time for a reboot
it literally is it.. i'm so done mentally
The Warriors loyalty to aging players, overpaying them, and neglecting developing their young guys as a result, is what killed the dynasty. Now they're being pilloried by Klay, and his dickriders, for lack of loyalty. Genuinely hilarious.
bro warriors literally couldve fleeced the bulls cp3 for zach lavine and still have wiggins to trade for lauri😭😭
When they drafted Wismen and not Haliburton.
Clearly you don't understand how contacts finance works, if they traded for cp3 they must trade him with a package that equal for him money wise, by waving him and letting Klay move they have now a space to sign a max contact player
the new Warriors GM has done great for the situation he was thrown in by that coward Bob who ditched the team when they were in a runt stuck in a situation to make tough decision and needed a general who was respected to get the job done, but no we get a GM who is new and doesnt have the respect of fans to make those tough decisions. Bob did what was great for his career and thats cool but he is the type you dont go to war with cause when you are down he will dip as soon as he gets a chance
I wished if he could at least retires as a Warrior 🤧
The Lakers ended it and kings finished the dynasty
Life is funny, most NBA player stars get payed, party every night, don't allow their co-stars to truly shine and get credit for taking a paycut when they finally want to win a ring. Meanwhile someone like Klay who sacrificed his whole career and spotlight is now greedy and egolistic. The only time I saw this guy partying was a championship parades, now he's egolistic?
But hey thats life
Not sure what makes you say that about the Klay portion of how they handled things. Klay was stuck on a certain $$$ amount I guess. You can't argue with $$$ demands - its either a yes or no.
Also they shouldnt have traded Jordan Poole just to make Draymond happy, who cares about Draymond being happy you gotta make STEPH happy not Draymond. Draymond can be replaced at this day and age because he is far from the player he was once was. He should be happy his contract is not that big...
Believe it or not, the Dubs defense was much better when Dray was on the floor and a lot of metrics proved it along with the eye test
klay to the mavericks
Nah ain’t no way Warriors front office ruined their dynasty. They’ve already established their legacy. Atp, the fans were hoping for their big 3 to retire as Warriors.
Klay’s ego ruined their big 3 tenure. Yes, he’s still valuable and can still contribute but the Warriors already gave him that loyalty contract. Bro needs to put his pride aside and accept he’s not in his prime anymore
As long as steph curry is in the golden state..the dynasty is still alive..klay is just a past chapter..
Just you wait
Saying the warriors ruined the dynasty is crazy after everything Klay did
Im pissed at this shit organization ever since the trade deadline
Honestly u can also blame steph, it dosent seem like he ever tries to do anything that has to do with recruitment or makin sure ppl on the team r actually trying .it feels like he comes plays ball and goes home
Chris Paul was a garbage player with a garbage deal . They were going to have to attach a pick just to get a team to take him. The team is literally better just getting rid of him and Klay .
Klays injury complicated everything smh sucked his injuries impacted his 2 way game
Klutch double agent Dramond masterclass
Klay is gone, PG is already in 76ers, so no big trade is coming - for sure! At best some midlevel player, so 2024-2025 is lost for Steph.
Thank You Klay For Everything You Will Always Be A Warrior In Our Hearts And One Day Will Get A Statue Outside The Chase Center.🫡💛💙💛💙
The warriors need DeMarcus cousins
klay is not what he used to be.
Warriors showed their commitments when the paid him max for 2 years even though he didnt play.
He should have taken the cut.
You’re acting like losing Klay and CP3 is a huge loss. Now the young guys will finally get more minutes.
Even if we kept Klay, then what? We wouldn’t make the playoffs, at least if Klay does leave Moody, Podz and others guys get more plying time.
Do u think if green didn't punch poole.. this situation would never happened
No Poole is trash outside of 22. It's been 2 yrs now
People probably trading for steph rn 😂
Tank the season theres no reason for steph to play
Didn't he get the max when he was 3 years injured !! Ungrateful 🤦🏽♂️
Why would you want zack lavine 150 million dollar contract. He also hasnt been healthy, gsw dont know if that man is healthy, would he even play at the level gsw needs from him?
After all of this, it blows my mind that Steph wants to stay in golden state…. Truly they are toast and won’t be competing for a championship.
People forgetting Steph gets a lot of his chemistry from klay making shots. Steph loves Klay we need him back
Thats not true. I saw steph do just fine in the 2021 season. What about 22 when gsw was the 1 seed before klay came back? Steph force feeding klay at times hurt us
Statement didn't make sense but Steph has proven he's great regardless of whether Klay is hitting shots or not, but I'm sure Steph does see Klay as a brother
People aren't forgetting anything. He never needed klay to get his shot off. He cooks just fine without him. If anything since klay came back Steph had made more of an effort than he should have to get klay going.
Curry has no help !
I think klay ended the dynasty, warriors wont really give max since he’s not a reliable 2nd option. Warriors needed to add one more scoring option to take the load off of steph so they offered klay enough to sign another. With ego at the door, klay will definitely brush out the sour taste on his mouth by for sure taking a much lower contract elsewhere
Now that they have cap space since CP & Klay are gone. why wouldn't they be able to pick up PG in free agency since they should be under the 2nd apron?
They gotta move Wiggs 28.5mil contract first.
@@mikemiddaugh7610 thanks for the reply, i havent looked at the official cap table but pretty sure they should be under the second apron w Wiggins cause they gave melton the mid level exception...but again. im an amateur at this stuff
No worries. Yeah I think your right about Melton and the mle. They also just got a 16mil trade exception for the Klay sign and trade today. Still would have been no were near enough to get PG. Think he's getting a little more than 50mil a season. 4yrs 212mil from the 76'ers. Crazy! 🤯
@@mikemiddaugh7610 Yeah, pretty crazy deal. I think they had to actually finalize the trade w Klay to get under the apron. either way, seems like they are under it at this point w the slomo & melton pic ups...hopefully they can get a big gun
I Don’t think they would have win a championship next year if KT had stayed it’s a business decision $$
I'm still pissed the trio, won't retire as warriors together.
Its a business, not a high school rah rah movie.
Well blame klay. U are washed now. U got paid 80 mil for 2 yrs at your lowest point of your career and u think u deserve max money?
Klay is partially to blame to. He's letting his ego cloud his judgement. Not being realistic about his value as a player. The G.M. Dunleavy Jr. was a mediocre role player at best when he played for the Dubs. Now he's looking like a bad G.M. as well. Get ready Dubs fans, we are going to be at the bottom of the Western conference for as long as Dumpleaver Jr. is at the helm. Back in the day I was so happy when the Dubs traded this bum away to the Pacers. Wish he would have just stayed away from the Warriors for good.
Guess which recently waived warriors player got signed by the Spurs 💀
Klay got injured and it was over
Over when his ego got in the way
Klay being childish and selfish, he's been overplayed.. The lavine offer is just pure gossip😂😂😂
It all started when Bob Myers left, and we could have Got Zach Lavine from my other team but instead we wave cp3, klay leaves
CP3 trade was just a contract dump to get Poole off the books. They couldn’t afford to trade for Lavine’s contract cause their cap situation is a dumpster fire.
Ew Zach lavine jeez. Ppl will take anything
I think u read Chris Haynes news wrong.. bulls rejected the deal. Rest what can i say..i m dissapointed
Wtf are you talking about? We can't win with klay, glad he's gone
Nah Keon Ellis ended it lmao
Don't even care about the paycut, should've been gone anyway
Klay is gone and good riddance to his selfish ass. His many flaws have been exposed for the whole world to see since the injuries robed him off his athleticism. Underneath his once supreme athleticism and shot making ability is a selfish player with little awareness of concepts of team defence or team basketball. He was always a shoot first ask question of think later kind of player. Now there is pretty much thing he brings to the table other than his reputation as one of the best shooters in league history so he still gets guarded like that. But he can't guard in space or down low on the block, once his man beats him he's just as likely to wander around aimlessly rather than make timely rotations. And if he can't even shoot 3s efficiently because he can no longer get the separation he once did and still has awful shot selection then he has almost no value.
At his current level of production and consistency on both ends 15m per would have been generous considering his age. The 2 for $48 Mil that he turned down was already a massive overpay based on passed achievements and sentimentality.
The truth for Warriors fans of which I've been one is that the dynasty died when KD walked out the door. That chip in 22 was a confluence of good fortune carried by an all time Steph playoff run. It wasn't the Dynasty reborn it was just a fluke run from a still good team with an all time great player playing at his peak when it mattered.
Now Free Agency has been a bust if they were hoping to give it one last run because a half decade of dominating the league has made them plenty of enemies no other teams were going to do them any favours.
Personally I think Joe and Mike must be breathing a sigh of relief. They can say they made honest attempts to get another star and give it another go, but now the pivot towards the future is clear. Paying a stupid payroll and luxury tax for a 10 seed is just not sustainable even with Steph on the team. They won't actually tank and rebuild while Steph is around obviously but objectively they should be trading him and starting the rebuild as fast as possible.
Naw Joe lacob and green and Kerr screwed the dynasty lacob by not trading the second pick and get a now ready player not surrounding and helping curry prime and draymond and green punch Jordan pool after coming off a championship and the lacob two year timeline crap and Kerr this year by playing saric at five no account of ability on draymond to pull him to side and knock it off and be a leader real coach would of did that and his 4 guard lineup and not playing and starting trayce
Steph curry is getting everything he wants....Draymond. The way things have been handled over the past two years (from the punch onward) has been nothing but devaluating players. Say what you want about Klay's last season, he was the second highest scorer on the team. And, Kerr benched him.
Idc about inefficient shot jacking with bad defense. WE could've kept Poole for that
That's what happens when you sell out your home city for a boujie stadium and wannabe celebrity optics. Karma's a bitch.
Nah let’s be real the warriors ended the dynasty when we decided to keep Draymond instead of Kd. Yeah we got 1 more ring but it would’ve been real nice to see 2 or 3 more
Good riddance😅 , he'll never win another ring, went from splash bro to brick bro
klay thompson is the second jordan poole with that greed lmao instead of maintaining his sharpshooting 3s he decided to be a post guard and driving guard lmao.
Drafting Wiseman destroyed Warriors
Not trading Poole right after winning the Championship for Myles Turner
Keeping Wiggins instead of trading for defenders
CP3 instead of a big
And Coach Kerr wasting young talent by keeping them on the bench
If we cant get another star to help curry should we allow curry to keep losing or shouod we send him to win a other ring and stack up on first rounders? It would be disrespectful to keep him in a loaing warriors team..
HOW ABOUT LETTING STEPH DECIDE WHATS WHAT. He isn't just a side of beef. Steph calls the shots. HE IS THE MARKETING DRAW FOR THE DUBS, remember? That is a LACOB/STEPH CONVERSATION.
He won 4 rings wtf u guys act like steph gas a russ/harden career
He ain't gas but our team ain't winning any time soon without other Allstars. We will see, I like our young guys..
Play mishandled this by greed. He's not the shooter that once was. Teams don't live on hope. They want it right now and Klay wasn't the Klay of old. But that's life. Just move forward.