There is definitely a classic Geoff Marshall "did you see it" thing going on here, the awkward pauses and the fact that he said "circle line trains no longer terminate here" and then immediately said the opposite are tell tale signs from my experience 😄. No doubt we'll find out in the last episode of the series.
The secret entrance is for savvy commuters going to Marylebone station which is a short walk away. I have used in the long distant past, I think it was open all day at some point.
I used that secret entrance for 10 years on my daily commute. Every so often it wouldn't be open and I'd have to trudge back down the stairs, along the platform, up and around - just enough to make me late for work :(
Another amazing video Geoff, my Edgware Road memories is the beautiful in door station garden. I use to love looking at the beautiful plants as a little kid as we passed through the station to catch the Hammersmith and city line tube back to Barking
Orange LEDs on matrix displays are evidently dual colour yellow + red and occasionally you see a single LED on a display where one or other of the colours has failed so it's yellow or red in a sea of orange. Maybe you could make a video on all the stations where this has happened 😂
Used the station very frequently for years as our office used to be on Old Marylebone Road. Including on 7.7.05. I was in the office early. One of my colleagues was on the train that was bombed but got out at the station and it was set off afterwards.
The ‘secret entrance’ is really useful if the service between Edgware Road and Baker Street is suspended as you can leg it out of there and then walk the rest of the way.
I change trains here every morning cos working down here for a couple of weeks. The platforms and which trains go from where bewilders me pretty much every day 😂
Yes, a few of us were tube enthusiasts at school. Often one of us would slip in an Underground question, which one morning was, " what Underground line is Edgware on?". Someone correctly answered, "the Northern," then one chao piped up, "the proper name for it is Edgware Road.." Er no, I don't think so...!!
The Daily Mail currently has a lot of correspondence about funeral request tunes. One of my choices is End of the Line by The Traveling Wilburys. Great series, Geoff.
@@LILC63 From the video, he's pointing to platform 3. So I'm wondering if he record "platform 3 is the only platform served exclusively by Circle Line trains" for the video but then cut it out because it's not true. I don't know, but I'm hoping he responds and clarifies. 😁
Thanks for this - so many memories as I used to travel from Earls Court to here every day for secondary school back in the 80s Back then the secret entrance was open all day from memory 😉
Edgware Road (SSL) is also an OOSI with Marylebone, which is handy when coming into London off a Chiltern Railways train and wanting to head west or south west.
I used this station quite a bit on my last trip to London. I actually really liked it. Easy to get to the trains and you don’t have to use lifts or have a 15 minute walk to get to the platform
I haven't lived in the UK since 1987. A few years ago I flew to Heathrow, took the Express to Paddington, and got onto the Circle Line to go to Euston Square for my train to Wigan. I was very annoyed when I found you now have to change at Edgware Road. If it's not a Circle anymore, it shouldn't be called the Circle Line. Spiral Line more like. 😠
The Edgware Road Bakerloo Line station could be renamed as Bell Street and to keep the Edgware Road sub-surface lines station as it is. Or maybe keep the Bakerloo Line station as Edgware Road and to rename the sub-surface station as Transept Street. Either way I have been to both stations and it’s where the A40 Westway and A5 roads meet.
I didn't realise the signal cabin had closed down there. I spent a week shadowing there in my failed attempt to become a Service Controller, many years ago.
2:20 Geoff, you didn't mention Griffith House! There's an entrance that connects the station directly to the building (right opposite to the secret entrance that didn't open at 16.45pm on the footbridge). Lovely place Griffith House.
English place names can be challenging. I was familiar with the concept of silent letters which are present but not pronounced. However, the idea of invisible letters e.g. the middle E in Edgware is a new one on me.
From memory, the red LEDs are deliberate to handle visibility issues in the event of a low sun setting along the platforms and obscuring the orange displays with the glare. I don’t think it’s anything to do with age of displays.
According to my list if Geoff wants to keep adding underground stations he has only three possibilities left: Bank (Waterloo & City) Kensington Olympia (District) Waterloo (Waterloo & City) Unless he fancies another trip to Kensington I fear this (Edgware Road) may be his last End-of-the-Line video on the tube. I suspect he will not be interested in the other two.
I just had an idea for a Tube challenge. I think it might be evil... Tap in or out of every enterance (independant gatelines) of every station as fast as you can. You cannot tap back into a station after you just tapped out at a different entrance.
@@backwashjoe7864 think of it as a traditional tube challenge but the number of times you need to visit a station is multiplied by the number of individual entrances or gate lines. So if you have a station like Edgware Road with two entrances, both with independent gate lines, you need to pass through each gate line. That means you would have to visit the station twice. With stations like Edgware Road it's complicated by one gate line being intermittently open. Like i said, it might be an evil if not impossible idea.
I believe the only ones left are Kensington Olympia on the District line and Bank and Waterloo on the Waterloo and City line? Unless we get the Elizabeth Line, DLR and Overground too?
I wonder how many tourists have ended up in Edgware (end of the Northern Line) instead of Edgware Road station. I had it once when they want to go to Edgware Road itself but had to tell them that you are at the wrong station and now 35mins outside Central London
I no longer live near Oxford and I'm not at Uni in Colchester anymore, but when I was, i'd take the train to Paddington, get on the circle via Edgware Road to Liverpool Street. Seems like I cant do that anymore without changing trains....thats if I wanted to.
You would get on the train via Circle/Hammersmith and City Platforms rather than the District/Circle one and it would take you direct from Paddington to Liverpool Street.
You use the Hammersmith & City Line platforms rather than the District Line platforms now, or the Elizabeth Line. The District Line platforms have got a lot quieter since that happened. To get to the Hammersmith & City Line platforms, you now have to go out of the station and go back in the side entrance, you can't use the same footbridge anymore that you can use to change platforms on the GWR lines.
I live just across the road from here and unfortunately that side (secret) entrance/exit hasn’t opened in a really long time Geoff, not sure why not. Passenger numbers maybe or the fact it doesn’t really lead to anywhere unless you want to get the number 18 bus
lol I just notice that too! Initially, I thought the letters were etched in the tiles but maybe they are just stickers and part of the ‘G’ has fallen off.
If there’s disruption, then it affects the whole line when it’s a circle. Having the layout as it is now makes it easier to run a normal service over the unaffected part of the line.
@@skyblazeeterno Because they don’t change the operation of an Undergorund line because people fall asleep on it. How old are you, five? It’s to reduce the impact of delays. That’s the answer because I know why they changed it. If you have a Circle then you’re sending trains continuously over the spot which is causing delays. Not only does this impact the Circle Line, but jt also impacts the other lines which share the track with the Circle Line, such as the District Line. I tell you what. Why don’t you find evidence that the reason is due to “dossers” and “sleepers” and get back to me. 😆
I wonder if anyone has bought a ticket to 'Liverpool Street' and ended up in the entirely wrong city I do think its slightly funny how trains from Liverpool Street go to East Anglia not to Liverpool!
Is there still the other typo on an entrance sign at Edgware Road Station. On one of the signs at the entrance it said ‘for the BAKELOO line station’ on it
I'm confused. At the start, you say the Circle goes straight through now. But less than ɑ minute later, that it terminates. Which? Oh, and v/o audio drops out at 0:51.
He said since 2009 trains no longer go in circles but go through Edgware Road when they go to Hammersmith and end in Edgware Raoad when they go back round the circle - see the line split at 0:42
Legend has it that geoff is still waiting for the entrance to open
😂
I'm on the Edg... of glory
👏👏👏❤❤❤❤
Edgy.
I would never have guessed you were a Gaga fan @JagoHazzard 😂
@@FromtheWindowSeat Indeed. You would have thought Death Metal, naturally.
@@kellypaws Naturally 🤣🤣
More like Edg of the Line
Get out.
comment this at edgware too pls
@@RightAwayProductions005 you arent the comedy police
Ware is that, then?
Split in the line to not run in circles.
There is definitely a classic Geoff Marshall "did you see it" thing going on here, the awkward pauses and the fact that he said "circle line trains no longer terminate here" and then immediately said the opposite are tell tale signs from my experience 😄.
No doubt we'll find out in the last episode of the series.
I think the pause is where he muted an incorrect platform number
@@LeeSmith-cf1vo as the vision shows platform 3, i imagine he should have voiced over "platform 3"
Got to ask the big question - did the small secret entrance ever open in the end on day of filming? I would love to find out if it did or not.
THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING AT THE END LOL, does it open after all lol
nope 6:40
I can't take this, he just leaves us hanging...
it was open the day the Google street view car drove past in Aug 2024 then back in May 2018 , but all other days it was closed !!!
@@glitch1971 he gives an ambiguous statement at the end that indicates he did not see it open
Edgware has an e on either edge
The secret entrance is for savvy commuters going to Marylebone station which is a short walk away. I have used in the long distant past, I think it was open all day at some point.
I used that secret entrance for 10 years on my daily commute. Every so often it wouldn't be open and I'd have to trudge back down the stairs, along the platform, up and around - just enough to make me late for work :(
gosh that building wrapper is nice!
Another amazing video Geoff, my Edgware Road memories is the beautiful in door station garden. I use to love looking at the beautiful plants as a little kid as we passed through the station to catch the Hammersmith and city line tube back to Barking
Orange LEDs on matrix displays are evidently dual colour yellow + red and occasionally you see a single LED on a display where one or other of the colours has failed so it's yellow or red in a sea of orange.
Maybe you could make a video on all the stations where this has happened 😂
I saw similar at Liverpool Street Central line. A green led when all the other led’s were orange.
Used the station very frequently for years as our office used to be on Old Marylebone Road. Including on 7.7.05. I was in the office early. One of my colleagues was on the train that was bombed but got out at the station and it was set off afterwards.
The ‘secret entrance’ is really useful if the service between Edgware Road and Baker Street is suspended as you can leg it out of there and then walk the rest of the way.
That conclushion abbout how Eddgewheare shudd be spelled was gould! 😂
I change trains here every morning cos working down here for a couple of weeks. The platforms and which trains go from where bewilders me pretty much every day 😂
Great video at Always Geoff!
"more stranger" tut tut Geoffrey!
Me, sitting here in the States, doing the Leonard DiCaprio pointing GIF, when Geoff does a station I've actually been to.
Lol I thought I was the only one doing that!
I think the disused platform in Mansion House has a red dot matrix display, or at least did until recently. Might be misremembering though
I'm so happy, another "End of the line" video!
As a northern line train operator it nice to see Edgware Road as I often get asked..”is this Edgware Road?…. No it Edgware. Different place
I imagine that people must get quite annoyed when the realize their error. It is a bit of journey to get back
Well, the A5 connects them.
Yes, a few of us were tube enthusiasts at school. Often one of us would slip in an Underground question, which one morning was, " what Underground line is Edgware on?". Someone correctly answered, "the Northern," then one chao piped up, "the proper name for it is Edgware Road.." Er no, I don't think so...!!
The Daily Mail currently has a lot of correspondence about funeral request tunes. One of my choices is End of the Line by The Traveling Wilburys. Great series, Geoff.
I love these videos! Thanks!
Fantastic video. But what's with the awkward pause at 0:51?
Audio may have have cut out. I assume he would have said ‘that it’ in the silent bit but it cut out.
@@LILC63 From the video, he's pointing to platform 3. So I'm wondering if he record "platform 3 is the only platform served exclusively by Circle Line trains" for the video but then cut it out because it's not true. I don't know, but I'm hoping he responds and clarifies. 😁
something about "platform 3"
July 2005 seems like yesterday as a child. A Geoff documentary on the transit tragically attacked would be insightful.
As a North West London pedant, very much here for the correct spelling of “Edgware”.
I used to change here, and like the garden next to the train. I think that it won an award one year.
The spelling of Edgware (not Edge-ware) is same as Bridgwater in Somerset (not Bridge-water).
And the same as another station, which featured in End of the line, Edgware, on the Northern Line!
@@ClydebridgeStation Well, that is because Edgware Rd goes to Edgware.
You didnt mention the "Window Cleaner" statue directly outside, with a bucket and pail, staring up at the skyscraper outside!!
Thanks for this - so many memories as I used to travel from Earls Court to here every day for secondary school back in the 80s
Back then the secret entrance was open all day from memory 😉
Edgware Road (SSL) is also an OOSI with Marylebone, which is handy when coming into London off a Chiltern Railways train and wanting to head west or south west.
I used this station quite a bit on my last trip to London. I actually really liked it. Easy to get to the trains and you don’t have to use lifts or have a 15 minute walk to get to the platform
I haven't lived in the UK since 1987. A few years ago I flew to Heathrow, took the Express to Paddington, and got onto the Circle Line to go to Euston Square for my train to Wigan. I was very annoyed when I found you now have to change at Edgware Road. If it's not a Circle anymore, it shouldn't be called the Circle Line. Spiral Line more like. 😠
I would've taken the Piccadilly Line all the way to King's Cross, and walked the rest of the way.
I'm glad you explained what a VPN is otherwise I wouldn't have known...
I can't believe that there was not a commitment to return to see the side entrance actually open, we need to know what happened!!
Just a query - at 6.10 there is a roundel stating EdgEware Road, as well as the one behind you Edgware Road!?!
I’m wondering about that too!. I had to watch the whole episode again just to see all the spellings of Edgware😂
as you become more familiar with dear Geoff, you will know that he photoshopped that one.
The Edgware Road Bakerloo Line station could be renamed as Bell Street and to keep the Edgware Road sub-surface lines station as it is. Or maybe keep the Bakerloo Line station as Edgware Road and to rename the sub-surface station as Transept Street. Either way I have been to both stations and it’s where the A40 Westway and A5 roads meet.
Well I don't recall seeing any red LED on my last visit. But I like it!!
I didn't realise the signal cabin had closed down there. I spent a week shadowing there in my failed attempt to become a Service Controller, many years ago.
2:20 Geoff, you didn't mention Griffith House! There's an entrance that connects the station directly to the building (right opposite to the secret entrance that didn't open at 16.45pm on the footbridge). Lovely place Griffith House.
English place names can be challenging. I was familiar with the concept of silent letters which are present but not pronounced. However, the idea of invisible letters e.g. the middle E in Edgware is a new one on me.
Awesome Video Geoff 😄😄
Been here a lot as I used to play live poker at the Vic casino, between there and Marble Arch. Lovely cosmopolitan area, little Lebanon.
Obviously with 2 Edgware Road stations youd think tfl would be looking at renaming one of them
From memory, the red LEDs are deliberate to handle visibility issues in the event of a low sun setting along the platforms and obscuring the orange displays with the glare. I don’t think it’s anything to do with age of displays.
Edgeware is a clothing brand started by that bloke from U2.
One of the other members has a range of dog food.
😆😆 Bone shaped by any chance?
Shouldn't it be Edgewear?
@@Wildcard71No, "ware" is the word for products made of a given material or by a given person.
Larry Mullen Jr dog food?
According to my list if Geoff wants to keep adding underground stations he has only three possibilities left:
Bank (Waterloo & City)
Kensington Olympia (District)
Waterloo (Waterloo & City)
Unless he fancies another trip to Kensington I fear this (Edgware Road) may be his last End-of-the-Line video on the tube. I suspect he will not be interested in the other two.
He's a bit of a completist so I say he will cover all 3
I just had an idea for a Tube challenge. I think it might be evil... Tap in or out of every enterance (independant gatelines) of every station as fast as you can. You cannot tap back into a station after you just tapped out at a different entrance.
I don’t understand the challenge. Can you give an example of this tapping sequence?
@@backwashjoe7864 think of it as a traditional tube challenge but the number of times you need to visit a station is multiplied by the number of individual entrances or gate lines. So if you have a station like Edgware Road with two entrances, both with independent gate lines, you need to pass through each gate line. That means you would have to visit the station twice. With stations like Edgware Road it's complicated by one gate line being intermittently open. Like i said, it might be an evil if not impossible idea.
2:46 that sign is making me want to go ctrl-A ctrl-E
I think it would be interesting if Geoff did former terminuses of lines. (eg: Verney Junction or King William Street)
I see this as soon as I plan to go to Edgware Road😂
But did the side entrance open?!! I need closure..........
Get your coat!😂
I still think there are three e's in Edgware Roade.
I believe the only ones left are Kensington Olympia on the District line and Bank and Waterloo on the Waterloo and City line? Unless we get the Elizabeth Line, DLR and Overground too?
Good stuff 👍
Google Street view shows the entrance open Aug 2024 and May 2018 !!! All other dates it is shut.
why didn’t you ask or interview the staff about that entrance Gate not opening / on time in the video for a bonus feature of the station in the video
I wonder how many tourists have ended up in Edgware (end of the Northern Line) instead of Edgware Road station. I had it once when they want to go to Edgware Road itself but had to tell them that you are at the wrong station and now 35mins outside Central London
I no longer live near Oxford and I'm not at Uni in Colchester anymore, but when I was, i'd take the train to Paddington, get on the circle via Edgware Road to Liverpool Street. Seems like I cant do that anymore without changing trains....thats if I wanted to.
You would get on the train via Circle/Hammersmith and City Platforms rather than the District/Circle one and it would take you direct from Paddington to Liverpool Street.
You'd use the CrossLizPurple line now.
You use the Hammersmith & City Line platforms rather than the District Line platforms now, or the Elizabeth Line. The District Line platforms have got a lot quieter since that happened. To get to the Hammersmith & City Line platforms, you now have to go out of the station and go back in the side entrance, you can't use the same footbridge anymore that you can use to change platforms on the GWR lines.
There's two e's in Tupperware as well!!
I live just across the road from here and unfortunately that side (secret) entrance/exit hasn’t opened in a really long time Geoff, not sure why not. Passenger numbers maybe or the fact it doesn’t really lead to anywhere unless you want to get the number 18 bus
Thank you for pronouncing Marylebone correctly. Certain other London Underground youtubers do the cursed "Marley-bone".
Does the high level sign at the Bakerloo station read EDCWARE (5:12 minutes into video)?
lol I just notice that too! Initially, I thought the letters were etched in the tiles but maybe they are just stickers and part of the ‘G’ has fallen off.
If you can zoom in there’s a tiny horizontal line on the letter, it is a G… but just barely!
I find Edgware Road so annoying, usually spend my time there waiting 10+ mins for a connection for only one stop to Baker Street.
That entrance does open. You can see it while queuing in the permanent traffic jam coming off the Westway.
There's a nice pub next to the Bakerloo station called the Green Man. They do a pretty good pint of Guinness for those who care about such things lol.
Stayed there last weekend!
Did any one open that Secret Entrance in the end??? 🤔🚂🚂🚂
That Pic is Willesden Green!
I live in the area and have not seen the side entrance open for years and years but maybe I just miss the time slots when it is open
this one is always a weird one! Always confuses me
The Bakerloo line doesn't have a connecter blob with the Circle, District & Hammersmith & City Line.
4:38 Bethnal Green is also the same. Has two stations but they're not connected. One tube station & one train station.
That would be confusing, especially for visitors.
Honestly what was the need to make the “circle” line not a circle anymore
If there’s disruption, then it affects the whole line when it’s a circle. Having the layout as it is now makes it easier to run a normal service over the unaffected part of the line.
@@mofomatI'm not seeing how that would help. Imo it's possibly to stop people spending all day dossing or sleeping on the line
@@skyblazeeterno That is possibly the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever read.
@@mofomat why is it ridiculous?
@@skyblazeeterno Because they don’t change the operation of an Undergorund line because people fall asleep on it. How old are you, five? It’s to reduce the impact of delays. That’s the answer because I know why they changed it. If you have a Circle then you’re sending trains continuously over the spot which is causing delays. Not only does this impact the Circle Line, but jt also impacts the other lines which share the track with the Circle Line, such as the District Line. I tell you what. Why don’t you find evidence that the reason is due to “dossers” and “sleepers” and get back to me. 😆
Nice!
The Polish and Russian metros are worth visiting.
Brilliant video as always Geoff.
'Edgeware' is the ubiquitous hat that 'The Edge' from U2 always wears :D
I think we have three left if he would do it. Bank, Waterloo and Kensington Olympia
I think that is accessible to staff only.
neat
Ah yes, the place I ended up when I intended to go to Edgware.
Bus up the Road?
I wonder if anyone has bought a ticket to 'Liverpool Street' and ended up in the entirely wrong city
I do think its slightly funny how trains from Liverpool Street go to East Anglia not to Liverpool!
I know someone who almost went the other way...
@@Eden-rg2ul It would be possible, but instead, they go from Euston.
@Eden-rg2ul I know someone who works at Liverpool Street station, they regularly get asked what platform for the train to Manchester or Blackpool!
"... more stranger ..."?
Open at peak hours occasionally
Is there still the other typo on an entrance sign at Edgware Road Station. On one of the signs at the entrance it said ‘for the BAKELOO line station’ on it
Don't push me cuz I'm close to the Edg, I'm trying not to miss my train
Great Video About End of the Line Episode 27 - Edgware Road Mr. Marshall
What is the benefit of closing an entrance (other than event capacity entrances)? Does it save on staffing?
I'm confused. At the start, you say the Circle goes straight through now. But less than ɑ minute later, that it terminates. Which?
Oh, and v/o audio drops out at 0:51.
He said since 2009 trains no longer go in circles but go through Edgware Road when they go to Hammersmith and end in Edgware Raoad when they go back round the circle - see the line split at 0:42
Tbh, I've always spelled it EDGWARE ROADE. Me bad. Great stuff, cheers! 😉
Did the secret entrance get opened? We will never know!
Cpr1234 beat me to the same 👇 question ☝️
Edgware sounds like a company that makes high-tech swords
Or pottery as they often described as xxxxware
Are we getting EOTL ‘Bank’ ??
maybe !! :-D
And Waterloo! (What about a bonus for Charing X?)
Didn't mention the siding where a train stables overnight at the end of service.
👍🏻🇬🇧👀...
I noticed one of the station name signs which reads ‘EDGEWARE ROAD’ ?
And here I thought "Edgeware" was the correct spelling. I've been living on the Edge' for too long.
There should add a corridor to link the Bakerloo Line Edgeware Road to the Circle,District and Hammersmith and City Line Edgeware Road
Why? Who would want to change trains there when you can do it more easily at Paddington or Baker Street?
@@norbitonflyer5625 true
It's still in London
The station I so often pass by, but never specifically get off at
I live in Edgware itself and I always have to spell Edgware - "E D G (no E in the middle) W A R E" - to whoever I'm giving my address to on the phone.
It's the right spelling, because it is. But every single part of me still wants to 'fix it'.