Prey - No Masterpiece, But Surprisingly Good
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- Опубликовано: 7 авг 2022
- So I finally got a chance to watch Prey, and I have to admit, I was surprised. It wasn't the masterpiece that some are hailing it as, and there's definitely things it could have done better, but overall it was a pretty solid movie. Join me as we journey back 300 years to the first battle against the Predator.
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This is the kind of movie that would be considered mediocre 10 years ago but is considered decent now because of how far our standards have fallen
So true
@Russ Ingram What are you on about?
The life of pi, Lorax, Django Unchained, 21 jump street, the dictator, men in black 3, skyfall, the pirates, Jack Reacher, all released in 2012
Half of these aren't even great movies, yet better than the shit we get nowdays. 2012 alone had more good movies than the past 3 years combined lol
Because woke.
The outrage mob makes taking risks too risky. Before all you were risking was just making a movie that audiences weren't interested in, or just wasn't that good. Now you're risking being unpersoned if you don't walk the line.
You clowns are so drunk on calling everything woke or anti-woke, you can't even see straight anymore. This movie would have been considered good at any time, because it was a genuinely solid and fun movie. I'm sorry if you can't see a female protagonist anymore without your juvenile politics coming into play. If it was some big burly male who did the EXACT SAME THINGS you'd be praising the movie without complaint. This was a stripped down, bare-bones Predator film that obliterates the last few entries in the franchise.
SPOILERS! The final moments with our protagonist perfectly demonstrates Hollywood's (any many viewers') warped idea of what a good character is when said character is a woman. After being pushed to her limit, losing her brother, and watching a sizeable portion of her tribe's hunters and warriors die, she is named War Cheif and has a big smile on her face whilst everyone cheers for her. In Predator, after being pushed to his limit, losing his entire team, and a good friend of his outside of said team, Dutch's final moments on screen are him sitting there physically exhausted, mentally scarred by how many friends of his were killed right in front of him, and probably already riddled with survivor's guilt.
I honestly do not understand why so many critics are praising this film for its character development.
Because they're broken souls as well, happy to trample others on their way to the top. This Wahmen was honestly unlikeable. She was only slightly bothered by her brothers death, and couldn't care less about the others.
I'm not watching it, but they made her a Chief? Ye gods, that is stupid. A tribe taking that many loses is doomed. They will be absorbed into another tribe.
Very well-put.
Smiling while stepping over your friends' corpses in order to achieve your dream? That's what progress looks like, my friend.
@@chrislutz416 'well since you got everyone else killed, I guess you get to hold the special stick'
The predator took a massive amount of punishment in this film. Dude was a freaking tank.
Everybody badass till they get shot in the face!
I personally liked it, the predators seemed like massive femboys without their masks, weaker than a toddler.
It makes sense he'd be stronger even without a mask, hence the name Predator.
The idea for the Predator is not to take damage and do nothing, like some of those "fat bosses" from 90's videogames and movies. The idea is to avoid damage, and yet end up outmatched by a superior combatant, who can adapt.
@@lollllolll. I really liked the movie, you can see the effort they put into it. Everything makes sense, is connected etc. Also, predators that hunt humans are actually low tier predators, thats why he has low grade weaponry... but yeah, they are tanks as fuck. What I liked most about the movie is that he would never die by brute forcing him, he got played in the end, and thats how he lost...
@@fernandoi8958 I disagree with the last part, she almost brute forced him and probably should have tbh, she jumped on and beat the predator, sliced its arm off and practically strangled it with rope and lead it into a bog, the movie ends with the predator killing itself but there really was no need, she might as well have walked over and punched it to death at that point, she completely outclassed the predator physically (fucking somehow)
The reason the trees are burnt in the French trappers scene is a nod to the original movie, when the Predator steals Blaine's body and Arnold says it's using the trees. The French trappers seemingly have figured it out and burn all the trees in the area they are trying to trap the predator.
But he uses the burnt stumps in the movie as jumping pads so, didn't work, like at all?
I thought it was to make a clearing in which he could less easily hide.
Comanche and French trappers together? That is an odd hookup.
@@acwojtkowiak SPOILERS!
They weren't "together" (I assume you mean as in "working together.") The French trappers used them as bait.
@@ajlendful he was just too strong, or I guess they didn't think he could do that.
This movie would have been amazing if she told her dog at the final fight to “get the chopper” when referring to her axe.
Very good.
That would have been idiotic. Every other reference in this was subtle and made sense.
@@darkphoenix2 come on bud take the joke
@@PattyOflan88 I'd take it if it was a good joke
@@darkphoenix2 Yes them getting the gun from the second movie was very subtle even tho this means the predator's came back and killed all of them is very subtle
"The film is tolerable because of how little they talk, which limits the amount of cringe they can be made to say" is a hell of a review 😂
Ha
That is true. They should have made the whole movie in Native American language (or whatever the Comanche are speaking) instead of switching back and fourth to English for no reason.
@@vdochev But then people would have to actually watch the movie instead of turning it on and doing something else.
@@vdochev you do know their is an option in the setting to set it full un Comanche and subtitles in English. Y’all not even knowing this say’s a lot about y’all.
The little amount that they do talk is what I hated the most about the movie. Not that I wanted more of it at all. But I hated the way they spoke. I felt like they made no attempt to dial back the mannerisms and attitude of 21st century English. The brother talked like a gym bro who just finished listening to the latest Rick Ross album.
No I wasn't expecting them to speak more like Native Americans, but less like they just left Starbucks and were too busy posting selfies on Instagram
I felt like she was more in danger sinking in that mud then she was fighting the actual predator
That scene was dumb, it's obvious to you she doesn't die since it's an awkward death do the main character and it was only at the first half of the movie. So essentially you knew it is foreshadowing...
Film was pathetic with a 5 ft 5 female who weighs about 7 stone fighting a beast of a predator. Embarrassing and politically correct nonsense
She has the power of Woke Feminist writers.
@@hectichazerdus She uses speed and agility to dodge his hits and get jabs at him rather than pure strenght, so I don't mind that.
yea pretty much lol but it was good overall
I think it’s odd you didn’t mention the native American in the original Predator. He was the first to realize. “There’s something out there waiting for us, and it ain’t no man.”
That guy was a bad ass
As far as I remember, she was presented as a generic "Latino" guerilla (insurgent) fighter (although we know that the film was shot in the jungles of Mexico, the exact location is not specified in the film, and the impression expressed by moviegoers is that the action took place somewhere in South American Colombia, being about insurgents and guerilla wars. But, anyway, she was not presented as a Native American, nor did she give that impression.
@@szaboattila844 That's not who the comment was about!
@@szaboattila844 The comment was about Billy
@@milesnicholas5973 just goes to show you how people aren’t legit Predator fans
"Why don't men want to let me hunt with them?!"
Fails to hunt a deer.
Fails to hunt a rabbit.
Fails to hunt a lion, needs to be rescued by her brother.
Fails to hunt/hurt/defend herself from a bear by making her bowstring wet after scolding a male hunter about this, needs to be rescued by Predator.
Fails to shoot the Predator while he's cutting her brother to pieces.
#fuckpatriarchy
yet somehow everyone loves this film
@@leadmetalproductions I can only summ it up with yesterdays conversation...
Me: "It was bad...but...yeah...it wasn't THAT bad"
Friend: "Yeah? Name one great thing about this movie"
Me: " Well.... *cricked sounds*"
The bigger question is: Why are all men "toxic" towards a young and attractive female protagonist? Because she is constantly talking back maybe? Because she always wants to have the last word? Because she knows everything better and is resistant to feedback? Because she has an unbearable attitude almost all the time? I do not know, but usually you would think that in a tribe of approx. 40 members, all men would try to keep their options open and be nice to attractive women ...
Yeah but the Predator roared in agony off in the distance before she drove that spear though that fucking American CGI cave lions stupid I cant hunt for shit skull
I think this is waaay better than the standard mary sue stuff.
You know the industry is in dire straits when 'not as bad as I thought' is considered a masterpiece because everything else recently has been that awful.
lol 100% agree
Valid point.
"it's not as shit as the last one! 10/10!"
When the bar has been set so low, raising it just a tiny bit seems a masterpiece by comparison.
It’s why a mediocre looking woman looks hot next to a bunch of fat, ugly women.
@@DuggyDarko last one was shit indeed
This makes me wish I could have watched this movie on accident without knowing it was a Predator movie. How mind blowing would that bear reveal scene be if you were a fan, but had no idea it was coming!?
As someone who loves nature and watches documentaries, that bear scene was just unwatchable for me. That's not how bears behave. They aren't mindless killing machines. Wild animals are extremely risk averse and don't just mindlessly attack. And if a bear does come at you it's not going to be growling, it's going to be very calm as it tears you apart, you'll just hear snorting and breathing as it eats you.
@@sup9542 That was the sad part of the movie. Really unrealistic. Humans really aren't on any wild animal's internally programmed meals. They tend to avoid humans like the plague.
@Sup That bear saw an easy 100 lb snack. Winter is coming! Need fat! Why wouldn't it attack? Although, early in the fight, that bear did fuck up the predator. Nicely done Mr. Yogi.
@@sup9542 idk I feel like the bear scene was believable enough but any real lone wolf would have fled from the predator rather than charging at it.
@@sup9542it’s a movie with a fictional alien, what did you expect?
If you compare this movie to Apocalypto, directed by Mel Gibson, you see that Mel Gibson puts huge attention to character development, ambiance, and COMMON SENSE. He gives true reasons for fear because of the motives that drive even the villains. Apocalypto does not have aliens, but for some reason, you care so much about all characters, and every death is pure loss, and sadness.
Indigenous stories can be very attractive, but need another level of sensibility and immersion to create a bond with the audience. Prey does not give it, its shallow beauty and some lost gore. But anyway, great analysis Drinker!
Mel Gibson is a massively underrated director.
Yes. Part of what a makes a great movie, is to make you feel like you are in the situation with them. When a movie doesn't create that, it is a lost movie for me, no matter how beautiful or expensive it may be.
Character wise Apocalypto is pretty great. Just don't mention historical accuracy.
@@Ep123C yes it’s not historically accurate, but still a good sample of a culture that few directors or people care about. At least at the entertainment industry, few really care to tell a good story about South America…. But I agree about historical accuracy being important.
Don't remember whether this movie was good or not, but this comment gives out a sigh of relief it wasn't shit
LOL. "In the end, Dutch was a traumatized man, probably resolved to never visit a jungle again."
In fact, that was Arnold Schwarzenegger's real story from doing Predator. He said it was the most miserable experience of his whole life because of the environmental conditions and would never return to the franchise again.
Dutch always has a plan but he just needs money
...GET TO DA CHOPPA!
Funny enough Dutch is still alive in the extended lore and hunting the predators, the closest you will see a return of his character is in the predator video game.
@@hi12345613 That game is surprisingly fun with the right group.
Really!?!?!?!? That's awesome. I love Arnie Wiki.
The writers forgot this took place in the 1700s, literally no one was afraid of the predator or the tech he used. Goes invisible, no one is suprised.
That was my main complaint as well, I mean they should flee in terror seeing this monstrosity. No one was ever remotely scared of him lmao. It was a decent movie, but yeah loads of inconsistencies.
Are you as shocked as I am that the critical drinker said in the title he thought it was surprisingly good? I thought this was nothing more than hot woke garbage
There's a moment where the brother sees it disappear and screams "You're a cheater", that made me smile.
@@CapybaraConnoisseur89 Well for them it would be like yet another spirit they believed in, you either afraid of them or not, but all the scary shit he's doin- well he's a magical horrible demon, what would you expect.
I am SHOCKED, basically the critical drinker‘s review is saying that he thought it was woke as can be BUT that it was OK….wait what??? Are you effing kidding me? A movie that’s woke is garbage in my eyes, and I thought the critical drinker was the same way….but I guess not…. Please wake up critical drinker!, if it’s woke it’s hot garbage, nothing more
when in need of a weapon someone should have shouted "get to the chopper!" and then pointed to a large axe in a tree stump!🤣
The. Best. Comment. Ever. *Mic Drop* xD
Laughing so hard, this scene needs to be in the next movie!
Yeah, like hype of the axe as the best one around, accidentally created as an ever-sharp and well balanced tool, that saved it's owner's life against not one, but two bears (dropping a tree on them which tree got 'chopped' partially and prepared before as part of a desperate attempt to a trap), and then their heads were taken by the same axe, and thus earned it's legendary status, and even got the name "The Chopper"...The name and legend reveal should be done close after the "Get to the Chopper!" line! Even asked the owner in disbelief about the ridiculous name: "Chopper?" where the owner tells it's legend. Only downside would be, that most of them would see the joke/homage miles away if the name was dropped too early. Maybe most part of the story about the the Legendary Axe could be told but cut in half before the name drops, by the battle-cry of the Predator, and when they are safe, the name of the axe would be explained: "Yeah, I even gave it the name, 'Chopper.'" And the other character would be like: Foolish old man...
or sumthin'. The joke/homage could work out very well, IF written really good and in a clever way. :-p
What's a chopper? I think that's what everyone else in the movie would have said.
Totally agree with the point that there were hints of a better story which never came to fruition. For me it was the bit where her mother tells her hunting isn't about proving a point, it's about surviving. I would have liked to see her realise she was being an ass and decide to go after the predator because members of her tribe start getting picked off, rather than because she saw it had skinned a snake. It the tribe was under threat and they ignore the danger, it would force her to go look for proof of the predator and risk herself for their survival. Just like how the tribe viewed the lion after it took one of them.
Instead she journeys far from the tribe, to seek out a large unknown creature that may not pose any threat to the tribe. Not a great plan.
And her finale is returning to the tribe with the head of an animal nobody would recognise, not bothering to tell them (as far as we see) what happened or that her brother and the other hunters were killed, just dumps the head and their response is "looks like we got a new war chief, yippee"? Why didn't she run to her mother and break the terrible news? Why didn't they share a moment of emotion? Because Hollywood says that women who have emotion can't be badass, they need to repress it like dumb men.
And instead of paying off the setup of "hunting isn't about proving a point, it's about surviving" by having her say something about understanding why survival matters or how she doesn't want to lose anyone else, she finishes her story by being given a big stick and a new title while everyone cheers, because that's what Hollywood thinks makes a good payoff/ending.
Well, except for the credits where they rehash the story in cartoon and revealed the real ending of 3 predator ships dropping down on the tribe, presumably to wipe them out and collect the pistol?
After watching this and reading your comment, I think I've come up with a way to make this movie more endearing and interesting.
I'd like to see her really struggle against the Predator in the end, collecting some pretty nasty scars in the fight (like a lost eye or fingers or chunk out of her side or something). Ultimately she triumphs like Dutch did with cunning instead of strength, but like Dutch she comes back to her tribe kinda broken from the horror she witnessed, and goes straight to her mother to tell her what happened. Then she reluctantly takes the mantle of war chief in order to better protect the tribe, and has them move their territory, away from the trauma she had.
Then years later, as well as showing us that she has nightmares of this monster she faced, we see that she has a kid or two now and she teaches them how to hunt, reciting the lines and lessons she got from her Mother and Brother. Then the kids see a shimmer, point it out to her, and she sees another Predator (or a few, akin to near the end of Predator 2). Then the scene cuts to black with the predator scream in the background.
I think that sounds pretty cool and to the soul of the original, but what do you think?
@@AZIONG651 Sounds perfect to me. I loved the film, but the end, where she got the stick, and she saw to the little girl, who looked up to her was 4th wall breaking to me. Peak 2022 Hollywood moment right there! At least THE MESSAGE was done this aggressively at the very end, so I wasn't forced to watch the film with a turned stomach. Then again, the true ending with the 3 predator ships were also great. Shows that even if She had Her GirlBoss moment, they were believed by the Predators as worthy prey and we all know where that pistol ended up...I was aware of the few woke moments, but most of them were easy to ignore, as they don't take up 5% of the film, so I could just pretend them away. Like fighting off the settlers on Her own, like She is at Predator Hunter level at that point. The mudpit element was foreseeable, as it vastly nerfs anything organic, and Chekow's Gun was paying up, and I was happy about it. In my ending, the end, when She saw the little girl looking up to Her would be called and told what horrors are out there, and that She had to battle a Monster from Hell, and that many lives (distractions, where she studied Big P.) were needed to be sacrificed for her to be successful. She could inspire female strength but honor those who allowed her to win over her foe! Also, in my end, she would teach some sort of battlefield medicine, first and foremost the usage of the cold body flower, since it's super effective against the P.'s heat vision...Maybe in Prey 2...but for now, it was a very okay movie to me. Your ending sounds great too! ☺
Whoa, you've got concise and justifiable criticism, and an alternative to improve the story? You guys are obviously just misogynist and racist and you hate all women and POC because you can't handle...blah blah blah, I can't even carry on with that as a joke. I wish that wasn't how people were these days, unfortunately they are.
I'm not reading all that
@@FlyingPaladin And we need to know about it why?
I literally almost spat my drink out when he said, "She fucks it up and gets injured."
No way. A woman actually messing something up in a Hollywood movie, actually demonstrating some weakness and vulnerability and maybe some room for growth? Color me genuinely shocked, and give them a tiny gold star sticker for that one.
Ok now I HAVE to watch it because it's not everyday in the writers room that they would write a screen like that.
don't worry, as drinker and other people pointed out, the ending still doesn't make any sense
Yeah but then later when her brother explains what happened, he says that basically she DID defeat the Lion with her plan but she was just unconscious so he finished it off and took the credit for her work. Shocking...
Her ankle heals in record time for her to engage in parkour.
she fucks up and gets fucked up multiple times in this movie
This review just made me realise how good the original predator was. With every new film that comes out I just have so much more appreciation for the oldies.
I'd daresay some of what would be considered B action movies from the oldies would be superior than the utter shite that is churned out these days. Baack in the days when they didn't need to worry about *the message*
@@AvoidTheCadaver Some? I'd argue 'most' is more appropriate. Those movies were made as pure entertainment, not to push agenda and 'The Message'. I'd rather watch every action movie from 90s (for Nth time :) than any of the modern garbage.
@@lazyman7505 exactly, Until we all quit watching this woke garbage nothing will change, until we turn the channel and start watching all shows made before Wokeness nothing but change, don’t watch new movies until Hollywood learns it’s lesson, this movie was nothing more than woke garbage
More people from the younger generation needs to understand this. Most young kids my age don't care about old films cuz they're old. They like bad movies if they have pretty people in it. And it's not helped by ''the message'' which they carefully ignore even though they make the films pretty hard to swallow.
My point is respect the past and improve.
How freaking good was the writing on the first one?
where did we go so wrong that with all of our advancements in filmmaking we still cant make something better then a movie made in 1987
Oh, that's easy. Movies stopped being about entertainment and became vehicles for fashionable sociopolitical ideology.
because you're nostalgic. nothing more.
if you don't see the strengths of 100s of modern films, you either don't watch movies anymore or your taste in them stunted in the mid 90s.
@@aaroncostello8812 you mean like all movies have been to an extent in some time or another?
you don't watch movies. you watch other people talk about them.
@@walter4180 Really? Says the guy who is watching and commenting on a video made by other people talking about movies? If you are going to be a hypocrite at least try to be subtle about it. 🤡🤡
@@aaroncostello8812 I do both. That's the difference lol
I wonder if this tribe were the distant ancestors of the Native American soldier in the first movie. If i remember right, he was even thinking about " demons from the legends ", at least in the book version.
Danny was great character even though he hardly said a word in the movie, it's just different league to this feminist nonsense, great idea ruined by Disney's social engineering.
"As each one died, you felt the hole they left".
That sir, is an amazing way to describe it, and I never considered it that way. In Predator, as each soldier died it felt more hopeless and... empty. Color stripped away from a painting that was whole with all members on stage.
Excellent job, Drinker.
To quote something I saw downvoted on reddit:
The first movie is a deconstruction of masculinity. The best of the best, and absolute physical specimens of humanity go to war with guerrillas and annihilate them. Their (Hollywood) fieldcraft and combat make them indestructable Gods of war....
And this draws the attention of a bigger fish. The Predator shrugs off their firepower, picks apart their numerical advantage, desecrates their dead, and rattles their nerves. The only way Arnold Schwarzenegger survives is because he accidentally stumbles upon camouflage to stop the beast seeing him, then resorts to primative, caveman tactics to overcome the Predator. Even then it is not enough, and they are finally put on equal footing.
The Hunter acknowledges his prey, and they lock horns in a deadly 1 vs 1. Arnold, the biggest man in Hollywood is outclassed. Even when his final trap is employed, the Predator outfoxes it, and is only killed by the log used as leverage to the original trap.
By the end, Arnold Schwarzenegger is borderline dead. He has PTSD, lost all of his friends and comrades, and sombre music plays.
There's a 101 errors tactically with the movie:
Why do they only discuss their backup plan / reinforcements whilst en route?
Why wouldn't Dillon mention Jim Hopper and his men?
Why does Billy, a professional soldier, go all "grampy bone be feelin' dis" at nothing?
When they attack the enemy encampment, there's no plan for how to egress if things go bad.
When Mac says he found the other hostage, and he's dead too, could it be from the fact Arnie's men blew up the whole village without seeing which building the hostage was inside?
Arnie says "Find me a way out of this hole" to Billy. They should have had an extraction plan prior to the attack, or even prior to landing.
How do they know the first chopper was taken out by a heat seeker? How can you tell the guidance system on a SAM / RPG explosion by looking at shrapnel for a few seconds? Maybe it was radar guided.
And so on and so on.... (I have lots more)
But Predator had heart, soul, and a novel concept. It will always be in my top 3 movies.
Prey wasn't a bad movie, but it was nothing to write home about. Frankly I found the predator more stupid, and the tactics to bring it down less impressive. People have no problem with women heroes, and to this day, Ellen Ripley and Sarah Connor are benchmarks for feminine prowess. It's just they happened to be amazing characters as well as females.
By all means give us a female native American killer (even if she's half Thai/Chinese), but I don't think you're telling a story that is relevant to the Predator experience, which is over-reliance on technology, and the idea of a super power being wiped out by a less sophisticated enemy. The first movie is a very good analogy to the Vietnam War. This was just someone's female wish fulfilment.
Can't have a hole when your ego is as big as modern day feminist's. That's why Naru smiles at the end of the movie.
Meanwhile as each savage died, I laughed harder and harder. By the end I was doing a rain dance of my own
I'd much rather watch Nausicaa, a classic example of a great female protagonist, than watch again this perfect example of Disney Style modern day female empowerment.
And they told it all visually. You see their weapons and appearance and instantly could tell the unique role they played. You knew who was the scout, the heavy gunner, the comms. Each loss meant one less major friend and asset gone till Dutch had nothing left but himself.
"It's all based of this simple minded fallacy that the absence of fear or weakness is what makes a person strong. It doesn't. it's a person's ability to overcome their flaws and fears and weaknesses that makes them a stronger character." Fucking take that to the bank.
You want a gold star? 🤣
@Good Teaching there is a huge difference between overcoming fears and them to never have existed at all. It seems like you're going out of your way to make an argument and not doing a very good job of it.
That does not work on feminist heroes. They are amazing and great in every possible way so they dont have any fears or weaknesses.
@Good Teaching It seems like you're hinging on a very narrow view of semantics to make your point. So I went ahead and went on Marrianm Webster to check this. It doesn't say anything about it being once present. The second definition is just straight up "not existing." So, the very specific definition you're trying to fit that word into isn't even right.
Even if you were right, which again you're not, but if you were. What would you be trying to prove by tearing down an entire statement by devolving it down to the linguistics of a specific word? This is stuff poets do, which is fine in their specific setting, but this is the RUclips comment section.
@Good Teaching Overcoming your fears is not losing them.
It´s knowing them but not let them stop you from doing what needs to be done.
Absence of fear is also called stupidity. Because you have to be an idiot to not be afraid.
Idk, I have a different perspective of her feats in the end. If you look closely, her brother was 10x the hunter she was in terms of combat skills. He wounded the predator a lot of times, but that was not enough to kill him. She was only able to do it because she was *smarter* and laid out a lot of traps to get to that point... But you are right about the lack of character growth and that she didnt took the beating of a lifetime until she eventually killed it lol
That dog was the real hero of the movie 🐶
"I've told her a thousand times never train by yourself, all it does is engrain your mistakes" - Vesemir master of the school of the wolf and apparently toxic male
Doesn’t that kinda make sense though? Like training by yourself would make you blind to your own mistakes? Would be easier to learn watching someone else learning with you.
Vesimir was a boss
@@Jummugest yeah that was my point dude it's this new thing the kids are doing called "sarcasm" maybe you've heard of it?
To a certain extent you can. If you are shooting a bow and fail to hit the target, clearly something needs to be improved. Now, it may develop bad habits that can inhibit future growth, but learning on your own some is certainly possible
@@Jummugest I think training by yourself isn't that bad. But relying too much on it is.
Actually the film could have gone in the direction of brother + sister together defeating the predator. It was even highlighted in the film that their skills have a good synergy. It would bring something new to the table at least.
Her brother almost killed it alone
If that spear would be few centimeters to the center of predator it would Pierce his heart
And yes I would love seeing both of them fighting predator at the end. His experience and her ingenuity. We also have to remember our alien boy was so filled with wounds at the end he was dizzy, tech he used to close his wounds and start up healing would help but he still lost a lot and I mean a lot of blood
I mean it went back to the lion hunt how she injured it but didn’t kill it. Then with Predator Her brother fucked it up to the point it was weak then she finished it off.
But they needed their 'new Ripley'. Or grown up Newt. Lazy writing.
Yeah that would have been better.
right? Her brother is actually good at hunting and combat, she's good at strategy and cunning. Her plan is solid but the second the predator had her by the neck she shoulda been dead af. I mean shit it picked up a fucking bear earlier but she survives getting slammed into the ground by her neck? lol okay.
I think if they made Naru lose something in the final fight, it would have made up for a lot of the criticisms this movie gets. For example, if the dog died as a sacrifice to kill the predator, or if she lost a limb or something, it would feel much more realistic and like she earned the win. Overall, still really enjoyed the movie.
Well she kind of lost her brother. I mean it was her brother and he was kind of cool. I missed him when he died.
she lost her brother, genius
I mean when she fought him 1v1 at the VERY end. Because it's kinda unrealistic that she alone beats the freaking feral predator with wit alone.
Honestly, the second time she steps out of the tent in the morning and surveys the scene I expected her to whip out a phone and start tweeting... "another crap day at camp crap looking for tubers to eat!"
The thought of a team of Predators rolling up to the Comanche village and just wiping them immediately after the credits is darkly hilarious that the writers didn't think of that angle
They show it happening in the credits, more predator ships showing up
This needs a post-credits scene where the waltz into the village, charging up their plasma casters.
Perhaps it's like what should have been the ending of Hobbit-Desolation of Smaug, but was instead being put into 5 Armies. The massacre that would make that plot point make sense, sadly happens in the first 5 minutes of the sequel. That would certainly subvert expectations. I don't know what happens to the main character, perhaps she survives, since the gun indicates a respect of her warrior ability? (Haven't watched film)
maybe you should've watched the credits
LMAO
She ran off and ditched her mates in literally every fight. So much for wanting to be the badass hunter, failing to get stuck in and back up her friends
She became a hunter the only way a millennial knows how. to killed everybody else so she was the only hunter left
Lol its called survival.
@@prophecyrat2965 selfish and cowardly is the more accurate term.
I am shocked to see the critical drinker say this was surprisingly good, this was nothing more than hot woke Hollywood garbage to me, I gave it a one out of 10
@@dislike_button33 yea all thise selfishy and cowardly prey that run from predators. Lol dude the movues is called “prey”.
No mention of the dog saving the day? The real,hero of the movie
It's good in its own way. Predator starts as an action movie with strong men killing and blowing stuff up with powerful weapons to show they are invincible. But in the second half, it's a horror movie where they're suddenly vulnerable in a mysterious environment. The Predator is hunting the men. Also, remember in Predator, Dutch only put up a decent fight when he used sticks and vines. Prey is different because the main characters have a natural understanding of the land. That's an important advantage the woman has. She still thinks she's looking for a bear or lion. It's almost as if the Predator is the guest.
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im about halfway through the movie to where the French trappers have them tied to a tree. The only gripe really was when they went to bring her home and she was full on fighting them with punches and stuff....i get that theyre trying to show she's not a submissive female and she can hunt just as good as the rest of them but it just came off with a strange vibe. i have questions about the Predator himself but ill see if those questions are answered later. overall its been a pretty good movie - a bit slow in the beginning though.
You know I would like to believe that, but when you don't even teach your actors how to shoot a bow ( you can learn how comanche gripped their bows and arrows from one google search) and you almost kill your main lead in the first half because she stupidly falls in a mud pit, it seemed to me like an arrogant child with knowladge of few herbs and tracking got everyone killed in pursuit of her gender equality.
Mixing modern non-problems with tribes of native americans feels so forced and stupid, just like all of this movie.
@@ajlendfulthe point is for her to be arrogant in the beginning , thats why she falls in the pit. Its not about equality at all
@@nicxshaw the point is the movie is just plan DUMB...
The predator is a brutal alien enemy the toughest warriors of her tribe could never quite even scratch. It was very exhilarating when she found the key to defeating this enemy, the plot armour.
totally is plot armor if Arnold had hard time years ago, no way this 100 pound little thing would of had a chance, fuck this movie and fuck hollywood
My thought is that it could have been a completely depressing movie where the main character gets killed trying to take on such a monstrous entity. Might’ve made it more realistic and dramatic. But I think the pricks at Disney might’ve had something to do with the character.
i think the predator should win one of these movies.
@@JewTube001 he should’ve won this movie
This Rookie Pred got literally arrowed, speared in the foot and then again through back by the brother, and shot by frenchmen before it even fought the girl. The Comanches rocked his shit more than Dutch and his boys back in the jungle.
I hope the actor who played her brother shows up in a lot more. I really enjoyed his role and performance personally. And I'm pretty sure this was his first role.
I agree. He should have been the main character
But this guy showed too much "toxic masculinity" of course he had to be slain early doors for the Mary Sue Matrix gymnastics alien killer to flourish 😂😂😂😂💩
I agree. He really cared about the sister, but also showed her/told the reasons why she previously failed. Furthermore, he had the humility to tell her how she had actually helped him (through her own failure of falling out of the tree) that she had set everything up correctly for him to beat the lion. I found her to be a good fighter and quick thinker, but by no means a match for even a "low level" Predator. And, no one seems to mention the funky herbs she used to make her heat signature disappear. I cry BS there!
But overall, you gotta admit the tag team between the brother and sister to fight The Predator along with the dog is pretty good and they have a good choreography fight. I wish he survived in the end.
I really wish he was the main character. Seeing him fight the predator was wicked. Gave me some serious Turok vibes. He actually brought her back before going after the lion whereas she doesn't even try to get his body back after killing the Predator.
The “you think I’m not a hunter like you” monologue actually would’ve been perfect if they cut the last line “and neither does it” or whatever she says. Like if they set it up so we THINK she’s talking to the Frenchmen but the big reveal is she’s talking to the Predator? THAT would’ve been fucking badass.
Just change “does it” to “do you,” and that would have been the most badass line in the film.
Girl got the thickest plot armor I've ever seen
Definitely
To me, this is like Black Panther all over again. The movie is just passable (unlike say, Lady Ghosbusters) and it carries the right "message", therefore the critics go absolutely crazy as if it was a masterpiece. If you replace the main actress by a native guy, the Tomatometer drops below 70%.
I actually wouldn't have minded if Dakota Beavers had been the lead. I really thought he had good screen presence, and was a little disappointed he wasn't used more.
@@msscott22 Dakota Beavers is legitimately a porn star name. In fact, porn stars would consider it too on the nose.
@@ComicGladiator lol yea, it totally is.
Are you as shocked as I am that the critical drinker said he thought this was woke but good? If it’s woke it’s BAD…I thought he was on board with this but I guess not, when did woke equal surprisingly good? Absolutely incredible, this movie was hot woke garbage
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One of the biggest complaints my best friend had about Prey is that he found the characters completely uninteresting.
One of the best things about the original Predator film is that the characters were pretty well fleshed out within a short time.
Yes!
Especially the dehumanized french clowns. I alwayas needed another reason to hate white colonialist men and this movie gave me an excellent reason why.
Obviously sarcasm.
That's what I was saying Naru and to a much lesser extent her brother were the only ones who have character development. Everyone else is either Predator target practice or an exposition dump
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Arnold was the only 1 for me
I'm surprised. I consider this ridiculous feminist garbage. They could make a predator movie about every iconic age of human civilization, instead they go full woke.
something tells me you think everything is woke if you think this movie of ALL THINGS is anything close to it
like it's genuinely baffling you think this way.
If Alien was released today you'd probably call that woke too. Not everything is woke because there's a woman in it dude.
bro where have we gotten to that a 13 year old girl winning a solo against a predator (a FUCKING predator) I want this franchise to get in da chopper and fly far awayyyy.
Watched this over the weekend with my wife who isn’t big into any sort of sci-fi stuff. Her best comment for the movie was at the end where she said “so she wasn’t able to kill a single animal the entire movie but kill the big alien??” Cracked me up
OMG 🤣 best point ever
Can always trust a mildly disinterested wife or girlfriend to see through the bullshit :') Mine is exactly the same
I am wondering if they were just trying to highlight the point that it wasn't about the hunt or going toe-to-toe, but rather finding a way to survive like her mother had said.
She did kill some rabbits.
Did you watch the movie? Is she stupid or on the spectrum? It's very easily explained and only requires a few neurons
One of the things that makes the original so awesome is you get to see Dutch, and his company operate as combat seasoned soldiers before the predator is ever revealed. So much so that I've always considered it to be a 2-part movie that starts as a military action movie, and ends as an action/horror movie. The director wants you to know just how good the team is so when you see how easily the predator kills them off it really drives home the fact that he is a complete badass as well.
They have to adapt to survive, and use methods outside of brute force, and heavy weaponry. The Yautja is far different from anything they've ever faced, and has weapons that puts them at an instant disadvantage. Dutch ends up relying on counter-insurgency techniques, and obfuscation to avoid direct contact with the Yautja because he knows he's simply outsized, and outmatched in a one on one brawl. You even get the sense that even after he wins he's so beat to shit that he doesn't actually feel like he won. More like he barely survived.
Only failing was that they didn't show that big ass Indian take it on with a knife. That would have been awesome, especially given that he's a better character (played by a better actor) than Schwarzenegger.
AND they had enough juice to insert a perfectly valid post-Watergate government secrecy angle with Carl Weathers’ character without glomming up the film!
Yeah, and they were affected by laws of physics... you know such as gravity and stuff, unlike her she probably realized that this is actually matrix.
Predator is a perfect example in how to handle and demonstrate power-scaling.
hell yeah
The thing that absolutely took me out of this movie was how the predator dies. I was having so much fun with the movie but I cannot accept that he wouldnt see that trap coming. In the first movie you know the predator is an excellent hunter because he recognises the traps Dutch places for him. He doesn’t just go walk through them like an idiot.
This just reminds me of how awesome the original Predator is.
Movie: **Not an absolute burning dumpster fire**
Media: _Masterpiece it is!!👏😤🎉_
That's basically the modern standard, yup. Oh how far we have fallen.
The bar is on the fucking floor
I think people say it's a masterpiece simply because we finally actually got a great new installment Predator movie in a very long time
@@msscott22 tbh the standards were also shit decades ago.
You forgot to mention that the freaking dog was the best character in the movie. What a champ.
YES YES. The movie should have been dog vs predator. Shout out to that doggo 🐶
"Air Bud vs Predator," yup now *there's* a film.
I was honestly so scared through the whole movie that the good boy would be killed in the movie. Thank god he didn't.
@@junioraltamontent.7582 Turner and Hooch... and THE PREDATOR
The dog was unrealistic. Should have been a pit that ripped off the predator's face, and then when Mary Sue goes to pet it, it latches on to her arm and shakes, mortally wounding her.
I felt invincible watching this idk why . I felt like a kid again. I enjoyed it .
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Something that annoys me about the main character is that she’s all like “I have to hunt this monster all by myself” but then brings her dog along. Like, she would have been killed by the bear if the dog didn’t distract it, or would’ve lost the Predator fight if it weren’t for the dog’s assistance, so it kind of defeats the message of the movie. It would have been nice if she gave her dog a little credit at the end
a dog is a hunters tool. You may as well complain that she took a weapon with her when she went hunting.
@@madpuppet666 >tool
More like helpful companion.
Wrote a whole book 😂
The toxic femininity in this movie overshadowed a key minority who didn't get enough exposure for all his good deeds - doggo!
I never felt she was in trouble because every time the Predator got his hands on her he threw her around rather than doing what it did to everyone else.
Honestly they have a tendency of doing this to the heroes of every one of the movies. Dutch was tossed around for a while himself.
Because the predator has an honour code to not kill something it doesn't deem can fight back then learns yeah bitch can fuck me up. I dunno I'm not defending sloppy writing though people need to write better believable characters with actual arcs
Exactly, but why? Cuz it knows he's not supposed to stick a woman for it's a metaphor for rape? Woke by Disney. Haha
@@scottricci5063 The predator did the same thing to Dutch, it could have ripped him apart, instead, it was knocking him around.
@@voidtempering8700 aware. Still.
“Nobody wants to see a young girl get horrifying injuries on screen”
I guess the Drinker is not into slasher movies
Yeh I didn't get that one. Dillon loses an arm, do chicks want emancipation or not?
What they could have done is give this girl the same "protection" the South American girl in Predator had: remain unarmed and therefore left alone by the alien for as long as she didn't carry a bow or axe. They could also have considered poison to kill.
Also I don't get the impression there's blood and gore shown that contributes as well to a sense of horror as the first did. The skinned bodies, the gallons of blood...Predator showed a massacre that actually impressed.
@@FlorisDVijfde yeah no horror feel at all
Revenge is a good movie
they dont make teen slashers anymore
Yeah, the one line from this review that didn't land with me. In this day and age, who *doesn't* want to see an on-screen female character get horribly injured?
At the end there's an animation that goes through the story and shows 3 predator ships coming out of the sky above the village after she gets back from killing the predator.
Predators usually clean up their handy work after a hunt. They probably came in and let the people flee in terror as they took the head and the gun with them as trophies.
I finally tried watching this move and couldn’t make it past 20 minutes. Boring characters with stale wooden acting and dialogue.. it was much more fun to just imagine the predator wiping out that whole useless tribe in one brutal scene staring with the dog.
It would have made more sense if most of the hunters went missing never returning from their hunts. Now you have the problem of an entire tribe losing men/hunters. Thus being faced with starvation, it would make sense for her to have a strong desire to abandon her traditional role in the tribe.
Know what is funny? In the og predator it is said that the predator comes during hot years to hunt men. They could have had this movie go for a while and show the men in the village or tribe be killed during months, tuss accomplishing her desire to hunt and maybe even avenge her family.
That would've been a really good motivator, and the push needed for her to be open to new ideas just for the sake of the tribe and the mother's words of "It's about survival".
Oh yeah, that tribe is done for, its blatantly obvious they won't survive.
Yah that actually sounds like an amazing story. Because it doesn't shove the ideals of certain people today on our ancestors.
This is actually a sick plot! It would have made it more intense and things on the line 🤙🏼
"To make you hate the French hunters they used every trick in the book"
Nothing makes someone dirtier or more unlikeable than being French, they didn't need to go that far
They literally had to do nothing - they were French.
Why is it in every frontier movie I have seen the French are really evil?
What did the French do?
😂😂😂
Oh they were French.... In that case they didn't do it right. Wouldn't French people surrender at the first sign of the enemy?! LOL
@@highlander723 If it were the 20th century french then yeah I guess
Comanche, of course. Ever notice that when somebody claims to have Indian blood it's always romantic-sounding tribes like Comanche, Apache, or Cherokee? No one ever claims to be part Nooksack, Ho-Chunk, or Flathead...
The girl stepped into the steel bear trap and later on the predator also got his ankle whacked. It must have been made in China because it did not affect either of them. Or ankles were much tougher back then.
So in defence of this for the predator in the film, he is shown healing his wounds in a way that this wouldn't be an issue earlier in the film. When he applies the healing you see the wound healing almost immediately. As for the protagonist, the entire finale starts to have issues including this, or when it is the predator can or cannot see her. A lot of the issues like the lack of predator vision establishing how he could see her again, how he didn't notice her when she ambushed him etc, really feel more like they ran out of budget though (as it was clearly shot on a smaller budget) rather then just oversights.
And the dog's tail was fine after a bit of ginger rub.
Cheap traps! She had this little scratch lol
delicate female ankles slipped through the huge gaps in the teeth and offscreen healing herbs , DUH
those aren’t bear traps 🤣🤦🏾♂️ those traps or for small game or coyotes/foxes. A bear trap would’ve instantly cut her leg off. Also it’s a movie dude it showed her putting some medicine on it and it wasn’t that deep of a wound. You want her to be limping the whole movie or die from sepsis for the sake of keeping it “realistic”
Naru's character feels so hollow because it's like the screenplay was filtered through a feminist approval algorithm. She's not allowed to display any sort of obligation to those around her. She doesn't take lovers. She doesn't even mourn her brother. Her quest is one of pure recognition. She wants to be seen as a man of the tribe, which stands out in a period piece because it's an entirely modern preoccupation.
The journey of this movie is essentially to get people to call Naru by her chosen pronouns. It feels woke to people because it's suffused with the narcissism of the 21st century social media age, and not 18th century Comanche culture.
Shit did mourn her brother....you need to rewatch the movie
What the entire fuck are u and anyone else in this comment section talkin About😂 y’all thrive off negativity
Dummy
Spot on.
especially everyone seen better movie years ago, plus it was big dude Arnold having hard time, no way this 100 pound piece of shit would of survived, movie is BS
Most of today's movie writers couldn't be put up against any group of 12yr old boys from the 1980's when it comes to putting together dialog for today's "hero" movies. And the executives of the studios that quash any thought of expressing any idea outside of SJW approved sensibilities have caused me, at 50, to not go to the theater anymore and drop Disney, etc. Gone back to the basics!
I did see Maverick and I was blown away! A MOVIE!!!! What a breath of fresh air. Simple. To the point. No BS SJW crap anywhere I can recall. Soft spoken when needed, balls out over the top fun the rest of the time!
What white male doesn't like a movie glorifying white males?
6:40 Not really because in the cage scene a night before, she was shown a leaf with blood on it, before it was revealed that her brother was also captured which implies that her brother was shown the leaf too.
Rotten tomato score for Prey is 92. The original Predator is 80. Rotten Tomatoes is really runned by "proffesional" movie critics huh.
If Arnold was a gay male it'd have a score in the 90s.
That's largely an issue with the Rotten Tomatoes format. New movies generally rate really high or really low when they first premier, then their score normalizes to a more accurate rating over time.
I hate life.
@@OperatorKain its also because there arent many reviews for the old movie. If you look at the site, there are only 55 reviews for the original movie, while there are over 200 for Prey.
Lol stay mad
12:47 this is why Ellen Ripley and Sarah Connor will forever be perfect examples of badass female character done right, both were scared shitless of their antagonist and left changed women, but still were able to get shit done
Plus man and women helped them without doing the job for them.
nothing but pure facts.
There's also that woman in the AvP
EXACTLY.
@@WingMaster562 Lex is underrated she rocked. Black female without making a big deal.
Her strategical attack on the predator and her brothers short fight with the predator was really good 💥
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yeah the only good 10 minutes of the movie sadly
After watching how the Predator killed itself, it just makes me wonder why I even watch movies any more.
Two things that really bugged me beyond what you mentioned:
1) Tying a rope to a throwing weapon, will completely affect how it operates, can't wait to see what Shad has to say about this!
2) Preddie can easily Overhead Press a fucking bear, he later hits Naru in the head twice with the equivalent of a manhole cover...
I'm a fairly beefy boy at 115kg if I hit her in the head she'd be out cold, give me a blunt force weapon and she's not waking up. So how the fuck does she survive that, unscathed?
But as you stated Drinker much less worse than expected.
Same way she got caught in a bear trap and didn't get her leg snapped like a twig. Mary sue plot armor.
i hope no-one tries her "attach a rope to an axe" style of fighting in real life - because ppl are gonna lose legs - what a ridiculous scene. Imagine watching that as you edit the film and thinking, "yup, that makes sense, that would work, and its totally badass!" Just NO - all the types of NO
I have been fighting all week about this very point... good luck my friend... and I agree 100%
"Much less worse" you mean better?
@@jesterssketchbook The part that annoys me is... use a fucking spear, if you want to have something act like a harpoon, USE A FUCKING HARPOON.
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exactly bro
Nah! It's just that he is funny as hell.
I'm glad they found a way to genuinely raise the stakes in this franchise. I just wish they didn't have to strip the characters down to using bows and spears to do so.
The main issue I had with the film was the end fight with the predator, up until that point the film for the most part portrays her pretty realistically, she fails at taking out a mountain lion, fails at taking out a bear, taking on those french men was a pretty big stretch indeed, but then when it comes to fighting the predator she basically turns into marvel's black widow, she runs rings around the predator, jumps off a 20 foot high tree branch onto its back, yanks its tooth out and stabs the predator with it, pulls it off its feet, survives being choke slammed no problem, it was like watching a super hero movie, the movie could have been much better if they made that fight more realistic.
There are a lot of missed opportunities in action movies, where instead of making the audience more fearful of the enemy and ramping up the suspense, they want to show the good guys doing nifty tricks. At the very least find a good balance between the two.
I disliked the whole thing, but pulling the predators tooth off with one hand? We're talking about a creature that beat a bear to death with its bear hands and she just pulls his tooth off like a lego?
@@cashkrop with it's _bear_ hands? 😉
@@TheRealNormanBates Obviously the Predator grabbed the bear’s paws and began slapping the bear’s face while saying, “Why are you slapping yourself? Why are you slapping yourself?” Because the Predator is so strong though, it actually killed the bear with its bear hands/paws.
AND she got hit with a shield (and received no injuries) not minutes after that same shield had decapitated a guy and cut completely through the tree behind him... duh fuhgh?
I feel when a new movie is almost immediately showered with praise, it's coming from fans having what I call Mike Wazowski syndrome - they're way too happy anything new from their favorite franchise comes out that they're [at least momentarily] blind to any flaws.
Like The Force Awakens? 😂
That doesn’t make sense lol fans will be the first to hate something and make it known.
Like Halloween Kills, Jurassic World, etc.
@@TheHorrorShark Say what you want about Jurassic World but leave Halloween Kills out of it.
The Predator SHOT HIMSELF like an idiot...
How is this any good?
Watched it last night finally. You nailed it. Starts out kind of surprising, like she actually fails multiple times. Changes near the end though when she realises she only failed because she didn't believe in herself, not because she didn't have the skills. All the CGI rather than practical effects takes a lot of the punch out it as well.
Yeah, because if you are a 100lbs girl that just believes in herself, you can fistfight a predator. 🤣
@@metallboy25 😂 ofcccc
That girl pulling his external fangs or whatever they're called off as easy as she did is the equivalent of pull a finger off somebody with ease, how strong is she!! 😆 And why din't nobody catch this yet! She OP as F
There are many scenes that just don't make sense and feel like a 5 year old thought of them
@Danny Nebula right!! I truly thought the movie was doing well up until she started engaging with the predator, with little to no struggle just dominating the beast like she delt with 5 or more of them before.
They already explained the 1715 pistol in the comics. It belonged to a pirate captain who was enough of a chad that the Predator wanted to hunt him, but his men mutinied after he refused to let them steal from a church. The Predator pulled a "Nobody kills him but me" and started killing the mutineers with him. The last of them shot the captain, and it says a lot that his crew thought he was such a badass that they shot him and not the seven foot invisible monster, and the Predator took his pistol to honour him rather than as a trophy.
That's a pretty cool origins story. But as far as I know the comics don't matter. Or treat them as some different reality. Just like the AvP movies.
@@vodkavecz what do you mean by, "they don't matter"?
Its all fiction ain't it?
@@vodkavecz what do you mean by, "they don't matter"?
Its all fiction ain't it?
A chadator recognizing a chad…nothing new
This is the whole movie lore vs comic lore debate. Ultimately, the film plots take priority over comic lore for things like Predator and here is why. Predator was a movie made in 1987 when I was a kid. The target audience was people like my dad. The 1st comic came out in 1989 and was targeted to kids like me. In 1990, the second movie came out and was targeted back to people like my dad who never read the comics.
This is the juxtaposition that franchises find themselves in when they have meandering ownership. Hell even the old Star Wars Extended Universe had 6 different levels of canon, which is why Disney decided to just start over.
It was fuckin hilarious how the Predator can beat the shit out of a bear in a hand to hand combat, but loses to a 45 kilo girl.
If you show an Alien that can one punch a bear to death, you're telling the audience this thing is beyond dangerous. If you see it, you RUN!
It's not telling the audience to dodge really fast. It was honestly such a stupid movie.
Well tbf he had been severely weakened before he fought her, bullet to the back of the head, speared by the brother, shot numerous times by the trappers etc
@@MPT1983 don't make excuses for poor script writing. It's silly and nonsensical... a feminist power fantasy, nothing more
why does the predator lose at all in these movies when they're stronger than every human character in the franchise.
Smh
'Strong female characters' who are small in stature often seem to break the immersion for me because, Since they either: Have no chance in a real physical battle (which breaks immersion and makes me go 'pfft') or must possess some kind of magical power (which often is not written into the story at all and makes me go 'pfft').
The entire point of the first Predator film is that physical strength and big guns isn't what leads to them beating the predator, all the muscular 80s action heroes got massacred, only the ones smart enough to use their enviroment to their advantage and learn about their enemy survived
@@richardblazer8070 Yeah good point. I was more commenting in general in films.
A movie in 2022 with a female protagonist that we see fail several times, have to learn from others, and ultimately fight along-side a male in order to win. The movie deserves some of the hype based on that alone. They actually brought us a character who we got to see develop and grow.
And with respect to the French, c’mon dude, are we supposed to portray them as likeable? Everybody hates the French 😂
I know for a fact that the French Canadian voyageurs of the 19th century weren't all that different from the French dudes in the movie.
The comicbook short story Predator:1718 (published by Dark Horse) gave us the backstory for that pistol. But of course, being an almost obscure story and making sense, Hollywood ignored it.
On the "no women hunting thing," that was, at least to my knowledge, not exactly forbidden as it was just not a thing, as the women had their work cut out for them at camp and were genuinely needed to do those tasks while the braves went out hunting or to war.
Yup and even women going to war a couple of times in their life wasn't rare either. Usually it was done for revenge if a family member or husband was killed.
Right but the reality is was men were disposable. You couldn't send women in masses or you're sacrificing the future of your tribe. Without someone to bear children there's no future. Men are akin to worker bees protecting the queen. I know modern feminism hates historic women's roles but women on average are just better at care-taking roles and from an evolutionary stand point it makes sense.
One of my favorite movies is Alien. Ripley never used physical strength to overpower the xenomorph because that would make no sense. In Aliens she became a caretaker/savior for a small girl. Hollywood has this stupid idea that putting women in as lead roles just means you stick them in as placeholder for what a man would do.
I also can't get over how not-muscular she is. After training that hard, and gaining what you need to become a hunter, she would look way different.
after 1600 when the comanche turned into bloodthirsty warriors that was indeed a thing for the comanche tribe. only boys were hunters and warriors and they were trained for it while riding a horse since they were children. Women were just that, gatherers , cooks , cleaning the skins off of animals caught and doing witchcraft-medicine.
@ 100lbs and 5'5 is more then enough to handle a 800lb and 7ft predator right?
Love how you could make the same critiques of the first, but you know your audience and understand they aren't smart enough too, so cheers to that
The predator killed a rattlesnake mid strike and couldn't stop her from sliding between his legs? If they had her and her brother working together at the end rather than her on her own it would have amped up the story a significant amount
Ah yes, but then the femmy wokesters couldn't point to it and say "See, girls can do it better."
Did you somehow miss the fact that by that point (couldn't stop her from sliding between his legs?) the Predator had taken multiple injuries including being shot in the back of the head at almost point-blank range?
No duh he's not going to be at top speed after all that.
What made John Wick's introduction one of the most badass protagonist intros is that he and his achievements are spoken of by other characters with reverence like he was some mythical creature or deity. That set him up perfectly as a certified, no nonsense badass.
Imagine if John Wick said: "I am a man of focus and sheer will and I have been sent to kill the Boogeyman" he would've sounded like a cringey teenager in CW shows trying really hard to act tough, grown up and mature.
Even more amazing is John Wick actually gets hurt and clearly isn't some unbeatable guy. So he does get a lot of... terrible injuries.
@@remingtonsteele9431 True
on the one hand i agree with this, but in a recent video criticising the new she-hulk series, CD said that other characters pointing out her 'awesomeness' was a flaw in storytelling. too much show and no tell. in this sense the john wick way of introduction is a flaw. I think there is a double standard here. I keep wondering if anyone would enjoy a character like john wick, flaws and all, if he was female. This is not an accusatory wonder, I am genuinely curious.
@@lilcoffeebandit i get your point but then again the first time we saw Jhon wick, he get beaten and his dog get slaughter that make us symphatise, so when the Mafia boss tell the story about how badass Jhon wick in his past we wanna saw that little guy get killed so so bad. In other hand she-hulk never shown get trouble for what she do, so yeah (sorry about the terrible English)
@@lilcoffeebandit See, if you watch John Wick, you will notice that the movie doesn't actually begin with some homeboys praising him in the first five minutes. It starts with him being beat up, on the brink of death looking at a photo of him and a woman(we don't know it was his wife yet) on his phone. Then, the movie becomes a huge flashback to that moment. This immediately tells you this guy is going to see some action.
And like Yoel said, we actually see him get beat up by home invaders that kill his dog, so before he gets praise from other characters, you secured your audience's will to root for him. This is an extremely important factor in a character's likability.
There are key differences you overlooked in this comparison.
The ending drove me nuts. The logic leaps, conveniences and perfect timing moments that came together to give a 100 pound girl an easy win against a 700 pound predator was eye roll inducing
What I don't get is they could literally copy the first movie. Lure the predator in for the kill only to be taken out by a trap. The Predator showed all through the movie he was greedy for kills, yet they somehow were scared to show her actually THINK instead of girlboss.
Are you surprised as I am of the critical drinkers title saying that this was surprisingly good? Because this was one of the worst, most wokest movies of the year for me, I thought it was absolutely terrible
@@willw3736 - I feel Drinker's standards have dropped after being exposed to too many bad films. Like he's becoming desperate to find something good, so he settles for mediocre and says "well compared to worse stuff it's not so bad".
Yet here is drinker defending it. Honestly I think that convention he went to had some fun private party rooms and this review marks the beginning of his indoctrination into the message.
@@willw3736 Dear Will, I just didn't understand. Is it sarcasm? In his critique he tore apart the movie. I didn't get it.
Never forget: Predator is the only movie to star two actors who would later become US Governors.
who is the second?
@@gonzalvarodri Jesse Ventura, Governor of Minnesota from '99-'03 on the Reform Party ticket. And only Reform Party candidate to win that high a position in office.
Apparently Regan and John Lodge were both actors-turned-governors, but they never worked together.
Prey has helped me realize the original 1987 Predator might be my favorite movie of all time
Predator is my 2nd favorite, with John Carpenter's The Thing my all time favorite.
Nah those movies are whack. Xenomorphs are better.
@@metasprite5648 Kinda true but clearly a troll comment
Prey has helped me realize Prey is by far my least favorite Predator movie.
It's a good movie and I also like it a lot but in the end it's just Arnie fights a monster. Not more.
I do agree with you on one thing. True strength doesn't come from never being afraid at all or never showing weakness. It's about overcoming challenges in spite of your fear and weaknesses and that's what's truly inspiring.
Reminds me of Game of Thrones when Bran asked Ned "Can a man be brave if he's afraid?". And Ned said "That's the only time a man can be brave."
I find the idea a setting behind this and most of its cinematography great, but I had most of the same problems with it.
It seems so weird that they make her basically unaffected by everything that happens with how much value the people making these films say they lay on mental health. Feels like this paints a picture that supports the opposite to me.
Every Predator movie that isn't the original, just makes me want to watch the original. It's amazing.
I assumed that when it was suddenly looking "post apocalyptical" as you say, that the French colonists had burned all the trees in the area around and put them in the middle as bait. Assumedly so it couldn't sneak in high up in the trees as it did a lot in the first part of the movie.
But then it bounces around on the trees 2 minutes after it
@@paulie.walnuts2838 that is true....so it was all for effect lol
@@jimmi114 in a way it worked. The fire they set allowed them to capture the predator and battle it. Worked out better than in a full lush forest. Of course they lost but still lol
@@jimmi114 if they didnt burn the tree... the ash wouldnt damage his cloaking... they had to somehow make him visible for a fight and thats what they came up with. lmao.
@@reignmans hadn't thought of that....they even make a nod to it. When the pred walks into the field its cloaking is clearly useless and it turns it off.
At the end of the original Predator, Dutch was on the helicopter being flown out, the sole survivor of his crew and of the alien monster encounter he barely survived. He had that thousand yard stare on his face, just a blank look because he was traumatized by his experience.
Shell shock. Operational exhaustion. PTSD.
You know, whatever they call it these days.
Even the prisoner Anna was in such shock she couldn't even speak after first encountering it. All she could muster was the jungle came alive and took him.
But no, this little girl handled the bear attack and the death of her Indian pals and the introduction of savage Europeans wastefully destroying buffalo and burning down their forest and guns and fighting an alien monster... all without a scratch... and she handled it all just fine, without so much as a twitch in her eye when it was finally all over.
Just another day on the prairie.
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@boo hoo flag that crap as "unwanted commercial content or spam". Comments like that are all over popular RUclips content.
They even said in predator 2 that he died of a heart attack due to PTSD from the encounter, obviously this was an excuse for Arnold not being in the movie but it still stresses the point that what he went through is traumatic.
@don't be surprised islam is gay
Apparently we're supposed to think sociopaths are stunning and brave now.
Honorable mention is Predator 2's Danny Glover character who throughout the movie would take zero shit and have a comeback ready for anyone who comes his way just to look stoic after his encounter with the Predator. Government agent gave him attitude but he didn't even have the energy to reply. Just stiff arm him and look into his eyes with the expression "I don't have time for this." He only smiled after looking at the pistol given to him that was proof of his accomplishment and him avenging his comrades. A smile to lift his spirit to keep fighting through even more obstacles, not one to boast in the middle of his accomplishment. He has to keep fighting for the ones who were lost. That if they(the predators) come back that he would be ready for them.
I seriously don't know why Predator 2 gets so much flack as it's a classic. Yes it's got that 80s syndrome of crazy out of context one liners but it's pretty tame and doesn't marginalize the Predator's threat level like the other movies do. It being in the city gave it that Bull in a China shop feeling. Basically unstoppable
It's mindblowing to me how chilling acurate you are about this film. I agree in everything.
she snapped off is mandible and stabbed the predator with it 🤣🤣🤣
I wondered how the were going to realistically manage to get a teenage girl to beat a predator. answer the predator was dumb as fuck!
the only thing that kept it alive (and as a predator fan was cool to see) was just how much damage it could take
or any 100lb teenager man or woman
How hard is it to cast the some of the biggest action stars of today with Cavill, The Rock, Hemsworth and Chris Pratt vs a Predator
but we cant have nice things today as Hollywood hates 'toxic masculinity!'
But Toxic Masculinity is bad! Don't believe me? Just watch some videos of Brie Larson and she will prove it to you
Every time the predator dies it’s BS just cause she’s a small girl doesn’t make it worse we should legit never with against the predator😂
@@JessChillN_ Keep gaslighting every response, I'm sure someone will eventually give a crap.
@@ComicGladiator I’m not I’m being honest do are you really ok with any predators death?😂They all die in super ass ways I want to see a movie where they win cause we should never beat them it’s kinda dumb
@@ComicGladiator they're not wrong lol. The last film a fucking 12 foot tall predator got his ass beat by people far far smaller than Arnold, a kid with autism and a brain dead dog. What made it worse was the main lead was able to tackle the predator off the cliff but fugitive couldn't do shit.
How about we don't get a A list actor to fight the predator since studio is too scared to have them killed off brutally
Remember when stakes were high in the original film? When you felt empathetic towards the anxiety of Dutch and his team? Guess we'll never have that again even if it's possible to write stories that way.
I felt almost nothing when watching this film.
I had fun with the movie. Laughed my ass off her bowstring broke after her brother told her that his bowstring broke after crossing a river. Oh and when she shot the bear with a arrow and had to run for her life. Cuz you know a arrow would do absolutely nothing against a bear.
What was wrong with either of those things? It made sense her bow string broke after getting wet, cause that’s what happened to her brother. And why wouldn’t she fire a shot off, she probably thought she was about to die, who knows, could of been a lucky shot and got it in the eye. Again, I see no problem with that.
I thought it was a good movie, the best? No, but the worst, hell no. That last predator movie holds that record.
@@benny360 She specifically went looking for the bear to pick a fight with it. She had no chance at all of killing it with a bow and arrow. Also I literally said the bowstring broke cuz it got wet and her brother warned her about it. I thought it was a great moment and found it funny.
@@fangwhiteclaw7089 what? She went specifically looking for the bear? Lol, yep, that’s what happened.
@@benny360 Yeah she did. Entire reason she ran off from the tribe after her brother killed the lion. So she could prove herself as a hunter.
Correction, the frenchmen were not frenchmen per se, they are actually parisians, and they fit right into the description in the video.
A good campfire scene would have gone a long way to fleshing out the characters. Show them sitting around the fire joking, talking about past experiences or interacting with her. We would have gotten a feel for who they were and thus would have been more affected when they fought and died. The chopper ride in the first movie did that for us and they missed that opportunity here.
You’re 100% right, although I only managed to watch the first half of the film if that, what character development that was was very poor and consisted of the usual young girl being scorned for having ideas above her station. She failed at absolutely everything until she made the magic axe? And the Braves looked like Ladyboys. But they didn’t want to develop the characters realistically, they gave us 21st century political views instead of 18th century Comanche culture. 10 bears from the outlaw Josie Wales was a real Comanche brave, if you haven’t seen the scene from the movie it’s on RUclips and gives you a better idea of Comanche customs, and it’s a 3 to 4 minute scene. Sorry about the long reply, but in a nutshell I agree with you completely. Stay safe👍
that might work if the actors were any good and the protagonist was somewhat realistic.. But the only good actors here are the dogs
@@kgbstudio I was going to write that but didn’t, Kudos is to you 😂👍 Be safe
Sounds cliche af
@@kgbstudio yeah bc your movies have grossed how much again? lol...........
I think the Dog was amazing. It didn't talk, it obeyed orders and even was loyal and did as commanded without questions or trying to steal the show and damn was he good at attacking the predator. Surprisingly good.
Hey! Thats how TheCriticalDrinker seems to want female characters to be writen. What a coincidense!
Implausibly good. As was Female Protagonist.
It's a fucking dog, not Al Pacino, get a grip!
@@sanz7820 Spoiler:
And got them all killed, you know since they were concerned about her well being and everything.
this movie was utter tripe!
If we’re being absolutely fair, Dutch didn’t win against the Predator because he was big and burly and equipped with high tech weaponry. Up till that point nothing was working; Mac just barely grazed him. Dutch only won because he outsmarted the Predator, who was bigger and stronger than even he was, which is a great juxtaposition.
In Naru’s case it’s practically the same. A special forces team, modern military equipment, and impressive physique didn’t help Dutch, so Naru (who doesn’t have access to any of these) does exactly what Dutch does and outwits the Predator. Use its own strengths against it, hide from its thermal vision, and use surgical strikes rather than a frontal assault.
Yeah that part of Drinker's analysis kind of rubbed me the wrong way. By the end of both movies, there were a lot of failed attempts to kill the predator, and like you said, Dutch didn't use his strength to kill the predator, same as what Naru did. Otherwise I mostly agree with what was said in the video.
I'm glad somebody is saying this! Too many people are complaining that a 100 lb girl managed to take down the predator. I think Naru was a breath of fresh air. Not the deepest or most nuanced (neither was Dutch) but a break away from your typical action lead. And the typical female lead.
From what I heard, there is a comic book that shows where the Predators got the pistol and it was actually a Predator meets pirates story with the Predator and a badass pirate captain fighting back to back against pirates' mutiny against the captain. As far as I'm concerned, that's more canon than Predators handing out flintlock pistols like candy to anyone who's ever won against them.
Your comment is confusing. The elder gave harrigan the pistol as a trophy. Predators take trophies.
I have no ideas about guns. Back in the day, I thought it was a Cowboy s' gun and he got it from a Cowboy protagonist.
Somehow the Predator respected the cowboy that went up against other men and it with its gun and hurt one of the Predators from it's clan or Clan leader itself.
@beyond your imagination isn't it implied that this tribe gets wiped put for the predators to have to take the flintlock back?
Yes. You can watch the whole dark horse comic on RUclips. I digitally scanned all the panels and uploaded it back in 2013 on my old channel. I highly recommend anyone check it out as that story is far superior than this movie’s
@@Impulset0 Yes they usually take trophies, but in the comics the Predator got the pistol from the captain as a gift, because the captain was fatally wounded in the battle against his former crew.
In this movie it seems like the Predators have a stash of pistols and they're handing it out to anyone who ever beat them: first the Comanche, then Harrigan. Either that or some Predators come back post credits and obliterate the Comanche to take back the pistol trophy.
As a French Canadian I really find it weird that we are depicted like that, since we actually had good relations with most native tribes before the English conquest. It shows that they really did not do any research and it is actually kinda insulting
Those guys are cartoonishly evil, dont think about it because they sure didnt
“white man mean” that’s all the research they did
You’re absolutely correct. I had the same thought. Most of the tribes allied with the French against the English in the 1750s.
But even the English settlers out West in the 1800s got along alright with the natives. It was the US Army showing up that really ruined relations.
Also the French never ventured into Comancheria. That was Spanish territory and their one and only venture there turned out poorly. See Fort Saint Louis for details. I'd believe this more if the trappers were Spainiards.
Yeah the French/canadians are always depicted as absolute, buffoonish evil in american movies. It's quite hylarious, especially considering without the French there wouldn't be america. Nice loyalty and gratefulness
When you watch this movie make you choose the Comanche dub. It defaults to English, which I thought was odd because I'd heard it was like Apocalypto where they speak their native tongue with English subtitles. ALSO - make sure to watch the end credits. Other reviews noticed the flintlock pistol she has in this movie is the same one the Predator gave to Danny Glover in Predator 2. "How did the Predator in Los Angeles get that pistol if she's the one who has it at the end of Prey?" they asked. Well ... the end credits explain what happened. Or rather, hints at it and you can guess the rest.
Just watched it last night for the first time in English. Planning to watch it again in Comanche. Thanks for the suggestion! (And I completely agree with you about the end credits) :)