**TIP** If you get a cross bow and put the piercing enchantment on it, when you shoot the zombie villager, the arrow will stick in the wall behind him. You can then collect and reuse your arrows of weakness, which makes the conversion process a but cheaper.
I’ve got a curing box for exactly for that. golden apples, a piercing crossbow and a stack of weakness arrows. I did a whole stack in a cauldron, and still have 61. Did my whole trading hall with one arrow!
The reason the zombie sometimes wont attack the villager is because he is focused on attacking the player You need to move a far enough distance to lose his fixation on you
This is the answer. It likely happened due to Jefferson hitting you originally and your thorns causing him damage. If you didn't have thorns then perhaps you had damaged him at some other point.
On the realm I play on I've built 2 trading halls around zombie spawners. One is called Harrods and has mainly librarians. The second is called Costco and has 20 farmers, armourers, toolsmiths, clerics etc for bulk trading xp and emeralds. I learnt this from you in a BG S2 (I think) episode. Love your work!
I usually start with the spawner (and build an iron farm on top as well) - since it is early game and easy - and lets me get all the diamond gear and tools pretty quick while generating a ton of iron and rotten flesh. Once I'm geared out and I've gone to the nether and back, I'll do some curing - but only on those I need to. Not much reason to cure an armorer - since the only benefit is to get the coal trade to 1:1. Some, however, like clerics can be made more efficient for rotten flesh to emeralds, fletchers for sticks, or the high priced librarians (more for the books than the paper).
Thank you so much for explaining the discount mechanic! I have never done the discount because it was not worth it. But now I know it’s permanent for the villager that was cured, it is worth it! I have watched so many trading hall videos and not one explained the mechanic side of it and only showed a build tutorial. Thanks again!!
You finally made this process understandable. I'm loving the tip about the tipped arrows so I don't have to find blaze rods to cure a villager. Thank you!!!
Chunkbase seems to be about 20% accurate for me. 1 in 5 noted spawners exist. But zombie spawners are definitely a fabulous way to discount your villagers.
I'm not positive, but I think the world *tries* to put a spawner at those locations, but there are several potential reasons it could fail, so it doesn't actually generate. Chunkbase would show the attempt, not whether or not it was successful. Not sure where I got that impression from though, may not be real.
Probably... Although in one world it took me A MILLION YEARS to find a stupid fortress 😂 I was on the Switch so the low render + nether fog was awful. It seriously took me like 4 or 5 multiple hours trips to find one.... I had found 5 bastions before a fortress 🤦🏻♀️ And then, the fortress was half broken and didn't have nether wart lmao
Great simple setup. Nice change from the perimeter zombie track. I'd really like to see a spawmer farm episode. I have a ton of different spawners around my base and I'd really like to put them to good use.
Tip for ur survival world, I usually make a copy of my world and turn it into a creative one. Then I locate certain structures in that world since I use the command /Locate (Biome OR Structure) (Biome OR Structures Name) Also if the Biome has a space, Use _ Instead of space!
If you punch a zombie that is distracted by a villager, it will reaggro to you. Helps with moving them for villager discounts. Works with zombie villagers too.
I built a minecart dispenser to pick up zombie villagers from the kill chamber and they roll into a caged in area with another dispenser filled with splash potion of weakness. Just hit the button and the isolated villager gets splashed, and give them a gold apple. After curing, they are given a nice safe spot with a bed and a workstation. I've also used Prowl's iron farm, multiple times.
I had a zombie spawner really close to my base and I built the villager trading hall around the zombie spawner so 16 blocks outwards from this spawner and it made it really easy I get infinite discounts anytime I'm there for like 30 minutes
Glad to see I'm not the only one who has a little trouble keeping things from escaping during the curing process. I've gone for 1 melon per emerald in my village with about 3 villagers but I'll admit an iron farm is probably easier.
Use some pistons to easier remove the block above the zombie Then maybe 1 more piston to block the zombie villager from running out of the block infront of the zombie I think it'll work with a block at face lvl
I looked up in chunk base some zombie spawners near my base and the one I picked its there, so Im doing my iron farm/trading hall around it! Its a long way to bring villagers but mostly water, so, its ok, unless a water creeper appears lol
The world I am on now has a zombie spawner at around 29, 96, 28. Just a few blocks away up on a mountain side . Great mountain trading hall base right at spawn point and a large village only 200 blocks away.
I play console bedrock only and had the same issues. The zombie is focused on you. I always had to get far enough away that the zombie stops focusing on me, they will see the villager closest to them. It's a real pain for sure.
OR get all trades set and you don't put in the trap door and let a baby zombie go get them all and you do a mass heal and trap baby zombie. Do that a couple times and get them all at once as long as you have enough potions and apples. 🧠
In the realm I play, we're not in hard difficulty, so I built a book trading hall by kidnapping zombie villagers and healing them one by one, linking them to their work block and fixing the book I want before sending them via minecart to their final destination.
Hi, yes I have done the discounting on my villagers. I also give each of mine a 5x5 cell with a bed. In the past I have had times when the villager will refuse to trade ...forever after the first few times. Now giving them the 5x5 cell with bed, I don't have any more problems.
Oh yes I plan on curing villagers as soon as I can get some arrows. I'm working on it now, I already have a zombie villager that was accidentally converted when I was making the iron farm/trading hall in beginning. (Yes mistakes were made 😂🤣😭)
@Prowl8413 I built a spawner trading hall iron farm on 1.21 and noticed, at least in my world, that the spawner discount system seems to only discount the first time, any additional zombie villagers that spawn after that first one that discounted, do nothing. Is this right?
I new to Minecraft and was wondering and currently playing on easy. If I swap the game to hard complete this process and switch back to easy will the discount stick?
Tip for finding spawners: Chunkbase is often wildly inaccurate. Make a copy of your world and go into spectator mode. Additionally, if you have plans for curing villagers, don't lock their trades in. They should keep their trades, but sometimes they accidentally change trades. Lastly, another reason to discount the moneymakers not the librarians is XP: trading 4 ingots for one emerald for one book is 2 trades. 16 ingots for 16 emeralds for 1 book is 17 trades. That's 8x the XP, and as long as they don't implement off-hand, this is the way to repair tools.
Chunkbase is great, I use it a lot. But it struggles with Dungeons specifically. Probably because the dungeon generation code is much older than any other structure.
With your setup how do your villagers’ trades restock if they can’t reach their beds? I had to make my villagers a whole living room with space to move commune and actually sleep for the trades to restock. I don’t plan on putting them back in their traditional trade hall boxes, they just refuse to restock. Help?
Villagers don't even need beds to restock. You can make a trading hall with 1 bed, 80 villagers, and they will restock fine. Restocking is only based on the job block.
Yes :) You just need to be on hard for the conversion! If you are on normal while the zombie is "killing" the villager, you have 50% chance that the villager is going to die, and on easy it's 100%, that's all!
Thats correct. Their discounts will be permanent, although with extremely frequent trading they can still get the temporary price increases that villagers typically get... but it takes A LOT of trading to cause that, and that increase is only temporary
the realm i play on is on normal mode ... if i use a dispenser to put like, maybe full gold armor onto a villager, do you think it would survive enough to get the best discounts?
@@BlckMoonstone_ ahh ok thanks, I couldn't get the dispenser to put armor onto a villager last night anyway when I tried, I guess that doesn't really work either, lol ;( owell! Thanks!
@@randehs I know that on java you can, but it doesnt even render on the village even if its on! not sure about bedrock... but yeah, won't make a difference anyway lol I guess you can still use the spawner technique!
I can only Cure the villager once and the other times i try to Cure him he dosnt lower his prices. Does anyone know why? Like im stuck on 9 coal for an emerald or 14 wheat for an emerald when i want it to go down to 1 (bedrock)
@Moon 130? Ah mountain biome? I have java on pc but play bedrock on console....always preffered a controller...suppose I grew up with them and didn't get a pc until I was mid teens. My world is a survival island I have a triple spawner set up (1x skelly, 1x zombie, 1x cave spider) plus a double spider spawner. To be fair I already have an iron farm/trading hall but have to keep re zombifyimg the villagers...I will be looking into a better method today
@@PickledPeaches Yes mountain haha I come from console, and I still play both versions on PC nowadays. My main solo world is in java but I play on servers and with my bf on Bedrock still! I guess you could just all cure them for real instead of using the temporary discount.. might take a while but if you run a rail line behind the villager for a zombie in a minecart, it shouldnt be that bad? Always depends of your setup...
Isn't it kinda cheating to go to that spawner finding website, tho? I could honestly care less, but that sort of takes some of the fun exploring aspect out of the game for me.
you dont have to use chunk base if you don't want to. its just for those who wish to find it quickily or plan to build around it. tis the fun of sandbox games
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**TIP** If you get a cross bow and put the piercing enchantment on it, when you shoot the zombie villager, the arrow will stick in the wall behind him. You can then collect and reuse your arrows of weakness, which makes the conversion process a but cheaper.
Not bad! Luckily, tipped arrows on Bedrock are pretty cheap anyways, and with a villager selling them, it's not a big deal to get more :)
I dont remember if its reusable but dispensers work too
Copied someone a long time ago on mcpe lol
Now im learning stuff
Thanks for the tip! (No pun intended)
I’ve got a curing box for exactly for that. golden apples, a piercing crossbow and a stack of weakness arrows. I did a whole stack in a cauldron, and still have 61. Did my whole trading hall with one arrow!
I have a zombie spawner "at ground level" under a small cliff open to the air. Super excited to do a villager trading hall around it
PERFECT Spot!
Me also. And about 150 blocks away, I have a 2nd spawner, right on the shoreline. So I have 2 spawner/trading halls.
The reason the zombie sometimes wont attack the villager is because he is focused on attacking the player
You need to move a far enough distance to lose his fixation on you
This is the answer. It likely happened due to Jefferson hitting you originally and your thorns causing him damage. If you didn't have thorns then perhaps you had damaged him at some other point.
On the realm I play on I've built 2 trading halls around zombie spawners. One is called Harrods and has mainly librarians. The second is called Costco and has 20 farmers, armourers, toolsmiths, clerics etc for bulk trading xp and emeralds. I learnt this from you in a BG S2 (I think) episode. Love your work!
Jefferson really didn't want to conply. Naughty Zombie! Another well explained and entertaining video!
Thanks!
I usually start with the spawner (and build an iron farm on top as well) - since it is early game and easy - and lets me get all the diamond gear and tools pretty quick while generating a ton of iron and rotten flesh. Once I'm geared out and I've gone to the nether and back, I'll do some curing - but only on those I need to. Not much reason to cure an armorer - since the only benefit is to get the coal trade to 1:1.
Some, however, like clerics can be made more efficient for rotten flesh to emeralds, fletchers for sticks, or the high priced librarians (more for the books than the paper).
Thank you so much for explaining the discount mechanic! I have never done the discount because it was not worth it. But now I know it’s permanent for the villager that was cured, it is worth it! I have watched so many trading hall videos and not one explained the mechanic side of it and only showed a build tutorial. Thanks again!!
You finally made this process understandable. I'm loving the tip about the tipped arrows so I don't have to find blaze rods to cure a villager. Thank you!!!
Chunkbase seems to be about 20% accurate for me. 1 in 5 noted spawners exist. But zombie spawners are definitely a fabulous way to discount your villagers.
I only checked a small area, seemed closer to 50% for me... at least some are right I guess!
I'm not positive, but I think the world *tries* to put a spawner at those locations, but there are several potential reasons it could fail, so it doesn't actually generate. Chunkbase would show the attempt, not whether or not it was successful. Not sure where I got that impression from though, may not be real.
@@MasterTMO that sounds like a plausible thing. Thanks.
@@Prowl8413does this still work?
It will be way easier to find a Fortress than tipped arrow rolling if you don't use the addon.
Probably... Although in one world it took me A MILLION YEARS to find a stupid fortress 😂
I was on the Switch so the low render + nether fog was awful. It seriously took me like 4 or 5 multiple hours trips to find one.... I had found 5 bastions before a fortress 🤦🏻♀️
And then, the fortress was half broken and didn't have nether wart lmao
all these issues you had. are all the same im going through. its a pain in bedrock to do this. but now i have a setup that will work. lol
Maybe interesting to mention that the spawner method also works when you are not playing on hard!
True statement and good point!
Great simple setup. Nice change from the perimeter zombie track. I'd really like to see a spawmer farm episode. I have a ton of different spawners around my base and I'd really like to put them to good use.
Tip for ur survival world, I usually make a copy of my world and turn it into a creative one. Then I locate certain structures in that world since I use the command /Locate (Biome OR Structure) (Biome OR Structures Name) Also if the Biome has a space, Use _ Instead of space!
If you punch a zombie that is distracted by a villager, it will reaggro to you. Helps with moving them for villager discounts. Works with zombie villagers too.
When you know the villager is going to jump out of the cart once he transforms.
Yeeep.
I built a minecart dispenser to pick up zombie villagers from the kill chamber and they roll into a caged in area with another dispenser filled with splash potion of weakness. Just hit the button and the isolated villager gets splashed, and give them a gold apple. After curing, they are given a nice safe spot with a bed and a workstation. I've also used Prowl's iron farm, multiple times.
I had a zombie spawner really close to my base and I built the villager trading hall around the zombie spawner so 16 blocks outwards from this spawner and it made it really easy I get infinite discounts anytime I'm there for like 30 minutes
Glad to see I'm not the only one who has a little trouble keeping things from escaping during the curing process. I've gone for 1 melon per emerald in my village with about 3 villagers but I'll admit an iron farm is probably easier.
Fletchers trade stix for emeralds 1log= 2 planx= 4 stix if you mine an entire 4×4 tree you got nearly infinite emeralds
Fletchers arent selling sticks for less than 26 sticks for 1 emerald. Every time i cure him he has the same price. What am i doing wrong
Use some pistons to easier remove the block above the zombie
Then maybe 1 more piston to block the zombie villager from running out of the block infront of the zombie
I think it'll work with a block at face lvl
I used chunkbase to find a skeleton spawner and found diamonds at the coordinates instead of the spawner. Still a win.
Nice!
I didn’t know chunkbase brought back the dungeon feature! When they updated to 1.18 the owner said they were gonna stop doing dungeons
Yep, not too long ago!
I looked up in chunk base some zombie spawners near my base and the one I picked its there, so Im doing my iron farm/trading hall around it! Its a long way to bring villagers but mostly water, so, its ok, unless a water creeper appears lol
We dont talk about water creepers!
I always love watching others work with villagers lol they are so much fun lol another great video keep at it
The world I am on now has a zombie spawner at around 29, 96, 28. Just a few blocks away up on a mountain side . Great mountain trading hall base right at spawn point and a large village only 200 blocks away.
That was super helpful because I didn't know that other villagers get discounts too
I play console bedrock only and had the same issues. The zombie is focused on you. I always had to get far enough away that the zombie stops focusing on me, they will see the villager closest to them. It's a real pain for sure.
OR get all trades set and you don't put in the trap door and let a baby zombie go get them all and you do a mass heal and trap baby zombie. Do that a couple times and get them all at once as long as you have enough potions and apples. 🧠
One the most difficult mechanics to troubleshoot. It seems like mojang keeps changing the zombie AI
Yep, but this setup works perfectly!
Wait... Since when are dungeons accessible again on Chunkbase? I've been waiting SOOO long for that.
It's been a few months :D
Awesomeness!!!
Thanks!!
In the realm I play, we're not in hard difficulty, so I built a book trading hall by kidnapping zombie villagers and healing them one by one, linking them to their work block and fixing the book I want before sending them via minecart to their final destination.
Hi, yes I have done the discounting on my villagers. I also give each of mine a 5x5 cell with a bed. In the past I have had times when the villager will refuse to trade ...forever after the first few times. Now giving them the 5x5 cell with bed, I don't have any more problems.
The tipped arrows don’t work for me
I like the first part better! Zombie spawner trading hall schematics please?
Oh yes I plan on curing villagers as soon as I can get some arrows. I'm working on it now, I already have a zombie villager that was accidentally converted when I was making the iron farm/trading hall in beginning. (Yes mistakes were made 😂🤣😭)
Mojang:expects that you will help the villager cure
Players:no,I’m just using it for discounts
Mojang:bruh
The zombie spawner/trading hall is the Very First thing I build in every new world.
Can you do a video explaining how to find chunk borders?!
My source of emeralds are selling pumpkins, mellows and rotten flesh. I'd never sell iron or coal, can never get enough
I honestly didn’t know the chunk base dungeon finder was back for 1.18/19
Villagers are so much fun!
Painstakingly , built a railroad system to send my zombinator to all my villagers 5/6 times. Good i had a gold farm very early game
Yes! Cheap trades are the best!!
Gotta make sure he don’t burn in da sun light pro tip
commenting and liking. But what about the new Jimmy. lol
I need to be convinced he is with us :p Jimmy can't just be ANY villager, it must be the RIGHT villager.
@Prowl8413 I built a spawner trading hall iron farm on 1.21 and noticed, at least in my world, that the spawner discount system seems to only discount the first time, any additional zombie villagers that spawn after that first one that discounted, do nothing. Is this right?
This is helpful.
I new to Minecraft and was wondering and currently playing on easy. If I swap the game to hard complete this process and switch back to easy will the discount stick?
i have fyrm with 40 villager and this little discount stunt broke my iron farm,iron golem not spwaning anymore
Don’t trade with villagers in ur iron farm
Just a lot of problem, im in a very pre version of my world and i think First i'll create the iron farm, any good video to help me in doing that?
How come I made my villager to a zombie and convert them 3 times but the discount stay the same and it won’t go lower ?
Tip for finding spawners: Chunkbase is often wildly inaccurate. Make a copy of your world and go into spectator mode.
Additionally, if you have plans for curing villagers, don't lock their trades in. They should keep their trades, but sometimes they accidentally change trades.
Lastly, another reason to discount the moneymakers not the librarians is XP: trading 4 ingots for one emerald for one book is 2 trades. 16 ingots for 16 emeralds for 1 book is 17 trades. That's 8x the XP, and as long as they don't implement off-hand, this is the way to repair tools.
Chunkbase is great, I use it a lot. But it struggles with Dungeons specifically. Probably because the dungeon generation code is much older than any other structure.
Having an issue where the villager jumps out of the cart before the zombie can get him
How to i get the zombie to actually hit the villager i don't understand whats going on. Never had this issue in java
With your setup how do your villagers’ trades restock if they can’t reach their beds? I had to make my villagers a whole living room with space to move commune and actually sleep for the trades to restock. I don’t plan on putting them back in their traditional trade hall boxes, they just refuse to restock. Help?
Villagers don't even need beds to restock. You can make a trading hall with 1 bed, 80 villagers, and they will restock fine. Restocking is only based on the job block.
Make sure u never use the bed, villagers will relink and u have to set up all
workstations again.
@@Prowl8413 thanks
@@GamingGuide89 thanks
Weeeeeee!!!! 😂😂
lets go!
if I switch difficulty to hard to do this can I then switch back to normal and still have the discount?
Yes :)
You just need to be on hard for the conversion! If you are on normal while the zombie is "killing" the villager, you have 50% chance that the villager is going to die, and on easy it's 100%, that's all!
@@BlckMoonstone_ Cheers
How did you reset the trades after you traded with them?
How can u see the final master trade with out trading with it ?
I’m playing on hard on realm and the zombie killed my Efficiency V villager after it worked on my Sharpness V villager…😭
Hey prowl can you make a honey farm Bedrock edition?
any reason why my villagers won't restock trades ? I have waited several in game days + IRL days and my villagers won't restock on books/emeralds.
Are you sure they didn't unlink from their workstation?
The villagers are op
Very!
👍
Does it have to be hard mode to zombifie your villagers?
in bedrock yea. something to do with the villagers health being higher i think. so he won't die in 2 hits like he would on easy.
I have a gold farm but i have to afk for like an hour or 2 😪😪😪
So the cured villager is permanently going to have discounts and not revert back?
Thats correct. Their discounts will be permanent, although with extremely frequent trading they can still get the temporary price increases that villagers typically get... but it takes A LOT of trading to cause that, and that increase is only temporary
Ty
I have everyone water logged so this gonna be a pain in the butt
Its fine if i already traded with them right
You can use Magmablock under the professiontable to prevent pathfinding. Also easier for rails and zombification.
Its not working
the realm i play on is on normal mode ... if i use a dispenser to put like, maybe full gold armor onto a villager, do you think it would survive enough to get the best discounts?
It wouldn't matter, the villager has to "die" to get converted... not just take damage from a zombie unfortunately...
@@BlckMoonstone_ ahh ok thanks, I couldn't get the dispenser to put armor onto a villager last night anyway when I tried, I guess that doesn't really work either, lol ;( owell! Thanks!
@@randehs I know that on java you can, but it doesnt even render on the village even if its on! not sure about bedrock... but yeah, won't make a difference anyway lol
I guess you can still use the spawner technique!
11:30 How can you see level 5 without buying anything from the villager?
It’s a add on, it’s on his discord I’m pretty sure
Hay sir u speak Hindi letter ( chalak) mean intelligent
I can only Cure the villager once and the other times i try to Cure him he dosnt lower his prices. Does anyone know why? Like im stuck on 9 coal for an emerald or 14 wheat for an emerald when i want it to go down to 1 (bedrock)
They changed it so that you can only get a discount once when you convert a villager. You can no longer do it multiple times
Hi Jefferson
Doest help when we make you go barter with the piglins lol that's why you need more gold 😂😂
#truth
Is the dungeon feature back working on CB? 😀
Yes!! It's been a few months :D
@Moon excellent. I guarantee I won't have any spawners near ground level though lol where I need it haha
@@PickledPeaches Good luck hahaha
In my current world I found a spawner at like y=130 lol
Too bad Im on java and don't use ion farms anyway XD
@Moon 130? Ah mountain biome? I have java on pc but play bedrock on console....always preffered a controller...suppose I grew up with them and didn't get a pc until I was mid teens. My world is a survival island I have a triple spawner set up (1x skelly, 1x zombie, 1x cave spider) plus a double spider spawner. To be fair I already have an iron farm/trading hall but have to keep re zombifyimg the villagers...I will be looking into a better method today
@@PickledPeaches Yes mountain haha
I come from console, and I still play both versions on PC nowadays. My main solo world is in java but I play on servers and with my bf on Bedrock still!
I guess you could just all cure them for real instead of using the temporary discount.. might take a while but if you run a rail line behind the villager for a zombie in a minecart, it shouldnt be that bad? Always depends of your setup...
This no longer works on 1.20 if I'm not mistaken?
Not sure
It doesn’t
its patched? @@Wading_river_glass
is this patched
Na just build a raid farm discounts take to long
Finding a zombie spawner is so much easier.
Isn't it kinda cheating to go to that spawner finding website, tho? I could honestly care less, but that sort of takes some of the fun exploring aspect out of the game for me.
you dont have to use chunk base if you don't want to. its just for those who wish to find it quickily or plan to build around it. tis the fun of sandbox games
@@stephanos6128 sorry brother, don't play mine craft anymore after me n my ex broke it off. That question was more so for her not me
wil the discount be permanent?