This is why I got rid of my only from one's for HX2 fosgate in stead of XLC fosgate 12 inch I prefer rubber ring. I've been using the 3-HX2 12 inch everyday for the last 23 years what other woofer last that long. And in the Desert dry 10% humid here average. Wish I new about this year ago I would have old school cool 😎 🤟🏼🎶🤙🏼
Without removing the dust cap to shim the voice coil the way you did it is hit and miss. It’s a possibility that you could get scraping from not being straight up and down
Good. No issues. I am not a speaker builder hence my lack of a comment. I don't think you have to get that technical with replacing the surround at this level
I have the exact same speaker and have the same problem. Second thought, my speaker is the dual voice coil. What do you think about using RTV glue? Great video. Thank you very much
I use rtv on many things but I can't recommend it for this application. I got everything fairly cheap off Amazon and it is for this purpose. So I would recommend using the proper glue. Best case the rtv works but if it doesn't you are gonna have a hell of a mess to clean up. I don't think it will work properly to be honest. It is too thick. And the constant motion of the speaker will probably cause it to tear.
@@poolman8676 my friend who is a musician said they used to use nailpolish for small tears all the time. So you could try that. I can see that working.
I had a pair of punch XLCs in one of those giant sub boxes that's shaped like the rear dwell in the back of my 89 formula firebird. It took up that entire storage area. Huge box that works amazing in a 3rd generation 82-92 firebird & camaro. It's a massive box that is still east to fund but I had my punches ran by a single kenwood kac- 728s amp and I ran them paralleled and bridged with no issues just like I'm using it for my polk audio db+ 10" SVCs. So I know that amo doesnt care about a 2ohm bridged load. It's a 600watt peak amp and it really had those punches popping out of that box. The bass bounced right off that thick back hatch glass and hit you in the back of the head. Even though it wasn't a massive amount of wattage it was enough to crank it up to mess with people and it was literally loud enough that they were disoriented enough to not be able to figure out how to open the door to get out. They hit amazingly hard. Those 3rd gen "hatch" or "dwell" boxes would even fir the power acoustik FUBR series 12s with a little clearancing on the inside of the box (200 or 300oz magnet in those DVC FUBRs IIRC) hell if a nice sub back then. That little amp handled them rather well too. Just had to wire them to keep the ohms low enough. Anyway i built a striker 383 racing engine for the car and converted it from an auto to a manual 6 speed from an LT1 powered 97 z28 camaro and while I had the subs and box out to wite in a bigger fuel pump for the stroker 383 racing engine my cat decided to sleep in one of the subs and got a couple of small holes in that foam surround and a thin layer of RTV silicone gasket maker worked great on the inside of the surround to fix those little holes but its surprising how easy it is to fix a sub woofer. People will give to high end subs because they think they are junk if the cone or surround is slightly damaged. Fixes like this are how you can build damn impressive car audio set ups for next to nothing. I have a 4th gen as a daily now (93-02 firebird and Camaro) it's a 2002 WS6 TransAm also with a 6speed but it came with it. I havent tried a dwell box it in since I'm only running the polk 10s right now with that same old kenwood but I'll end up getting that massive box and adding some proper competition 12" subs that my zstat ZD1800.1 amp wont toast the subs instantly with. Zstat makes some brutally string and very under rated (power wise) amps. Zstat names their amps off of the RMS which is still very under rated. So the 1800.1 literally means its 1800watts RMS at 1 ohm. I may go with their subs too when I decide to get the dwell box. Great video and people really should learn to fix things instead of just throwing away everything. Compared to what they actually cost to make subs are extremely expensive so you may as well learn something and just spend 10$ to fix them. Enjoy your repaired XLCs they are great subs (especially for being about 23 years old). That foam surround was always their weakest point.
Sorry about taking soo long to respond. You own some of my favorite cars. Definitely gonna get ma a Trans Am one day soon. Love the 90's ws6 and my favorite is probably the 71 and 72 but I also love the smokey and the bandit era. First movie and second with the 1980 trans am. Yeah by far I am not a speaker maker at all but my motto has always been if it has been built it can be rebuilt. I really enjoyed your write up and you should send me a link to your Facebook or Instagram. I would love to see some pictures. I have some stuff on my Rabid Motorsport Facebook page but you can also check out just my name Peter LoVetri. Wish you all the best with all your ventures
My Rockford Fosgate looks like this thanks man I am gonna purchase thise ñrofuct asap.
This is why I got rid of my only from one's for HX2 fosgate in stead of XLC fosgate 12 inch I prefer rubber ring. I've been using the 3-HX2 12 inch everyday for the last 23 years what other woofer last that long. And in the Desert dry 10% humid here average. Wish I new about this year ago I would have old school cool 😎 🤟🏼🎶🤙🏼
Yeah I had boxes of old car audio stuff. Decided to do this just to get rid of it. Was in my basement for 15 years. Lol
Nice..i learn something new every video..
Yeah I enjoyed this one I learned as well. Thanks a bunch.
@@RabidMotorsport awesome
Without removing the dust cap to shim the voice coil the way you did it is hit and miss. It’s a possibility that you could get scraping from not being straight up and down
Sure thing boss.
@@RabidMotorsport im just learning to do this stuff lately. How did yours turn out?
Good. No issues. I am not a speaker builder hence my lack of a comment.
I don't think you have to get that technical with replacing the surround at this level
It would be amazing if I could find the surround for a RF T3-19. Any ideas where i can find one?
Sorry man. I found one website when I was searching online for the glue. But I don't normally do this
I have the exact same speaker and have the same problem. Second thought, my speaker is the dual voice coil. What do you think about using RTV glue? Great video. Thank you very much
I use rtv on many things but I can't recommend it for this application. I got everything fairly cheap off Amazon and it is for this purpose. So I would recommend using the proper glue. Best case the rtv works but if it doesn't you are gonna have a hell of a mess to clean up. I don't think it will work properly to be honest. It is too thick. And the constant motion of the speaker will probably cause it to tear.
@@RabidMotorsport okay thank you so much for your feedback. I'm going to repair mine and get a thumping again. Great video and skills
@@poolman8676 my friend who is a musician said they used to use nailpolish for small tears all the time. So you could try that. I can see that working.
@@RabidMotorsport yeah I've done that with car speakers before. This is a pretty beefy speaker. Think I'm going to do it correctly like you did
@@poolman8676 yeah thats going to be your best course of action. Good luck. Let me know how she goes.
what type of glue or adhesive did you use?
I believe it's in the video. I give the part number. I bought it from Amazon. Speaker surround glue.
Thanks for the comment
What do I do if there is a puncture in the actual paper cone that goes all the way through not the surround I got a skar ddx 15 I’m trying too repair
I think you actually can buy those. They are glued on like the foam. Might be a little harder to source. But I do know you can get them
I've also seen people use nailpolish or rub some glue on the puncture. I wouldn't call that the proper way but as long as it moves air
what's the part number on that white claw?
It looks like 48819 00113. But I think it differs by batch
I had a pair of punch XLCs in one of those giant sub boxes that's shaped like the rear dwell in the back of my 89 formula firebird. It took up that entire storage area. Huge box that works amazing in a 3rd generation 82-92 firebird & camaro. It's a massive box that is still east to fund but I had my punches ran by a single kenwood kac- 728s amp and I ran them paralleled and bridged with no issues just like I'm using it for my polk audio db+ 10" SVCs. So I know that amo doesnt care about a 2ohm bridged load. It's a 600watt peak amp and it really had those punches popping out of that box. The bass bounced right off that thick back hatch glass and hit you in the back of the head. Even though it wasn't a massive amount of wattage it was enough to crank it up to mess with people and it was literally loud enough that they were disoriented enough to not be able to figure out how to open the door to get out. They hit amazingly hard. Those 3rd gen "hatch" or "dwell" boxes would even fir the power acoustik FUBR series 12s with a little clearancing on the inside of the box (200 or 300oz magnet in those DVC FUBRs IIRC) hell if a nice sub back then. That little amp handled them rather well too. Just had to wire them to keep the ohms low enough. Anyway i built a striker 383 racing engine for the car and converted it from an auto to a manual 6 speed from an LT1 powered 97 z28 camaro and while I had the subs and box out to wite in a bigger fuel pump for the stroker 383 racing engine my cat decided to sleep in one of the subs and got a couple of small holes in that foam surround and a thin layer of RTV silicone gasket maker worked great on the inside of the surround to fix those little holes but its surprising how easy it is to fix a sub woofer. People will give to high end subs because they think they are junk if the cone or surround is slightly damaged. Fixes like this are how you can build damn impressive car audio set ups for next to nothing. I have a 4th gen as a daily now (93-02 firebird and Camaro) it's a 2002 WS6 TransAm also with a 6speed but it came with it. I havent tried a dwell box it in since I'm only running the polk 10s right now with that same old kenwood but I'll end up getting that massive box and adding some proper competition 12" subs that my zstat ZD1800.1 amp wont toast the subs instantly with. Zstat makes some brutally string and very under rated (power wise) amps. Zstat names their amps off of the RMS which is still very under rated. So the 1800.1 literally means its 1800watts RMS at 1 ohm. I may go with their subs too when I decide to get the dwell box. Great video and people really should learn to fix things instead of just throwing away everything. Compared to what they actually cost to make subs are extremely expensive so you may as well learn something and just spend 10$ to fix them. Enjoy your repaired XLCs they are great subs (especially for being about 23 years old). That foam surround was always their weakest point.
Sorry about taking soo long to respond. You own some of my favorite cars. Definitely gonna get ma a Trans Am one day soon.
Love the 90's ws6 and my favorite is probably the 71 and 72 but I also love the smokey and the bandit era. First movie and second with the 1980 trans am.
Yeah by far I am not a speaker maker at all but my motto has always been if it has been built it can be rebuilt.
I really enjoyed your write up and you should send me a link to your Facebook or Instagram. I would love to see some pictures.
I have some stuff on my Rabid Motorsport Facebook page but you can also check out just my name Peter LoVetri.
Wish you all the best with all your ventures