It's taken me that long, and I dont regret a minute. I come back to it and gain something about the piece, but more importantly about myself, every time
I’ve been playing for 8 (almost 9? I’ve lost count) Currently attempting it. And it’s a nightmare to practice, but it sounds so fun!! I wish you luck lol.
Absolutely first rate performance of this! He gets all the notes, he stays in tempo, he achieves all the expressive markings, and he totally sells the piece. What more could we ask? THANKS for posting!
"I'm Collard my technique is awesome and music feels so easy to me that it sounds like I'm cheating but I'm just that awesome" - Collard if I was Collard
One cannot even begin to comprehend the difficulty of this piece until the attempt to play it themselves... I would venture to say that it’s even more difficult than Prokofiev’s toccata. Fantastic performance!
I'll definitely test that out. I played Prokofiev toccata like 6 years ago. I remember it being an arm/finger cramper even when the correct technique was applied. I'm interested in seeing if this is any worse or different. Either way these types of pieces are thrilling to play to say the least.
Collard is positively ferocious in the ending, which is definitely what this pieces requires in the ending (very true to Ravel), and which is why millions love it singularly as by far the best interpretation. He truly gets it on a number of levels. It will take 30 years to best him, if ever...
My favorite composer is Ravel. I love this work! I have to take college entrance exams so I recently don't play the piano. I'm looking forward to practicing this after I finish the exam🥰 To do it next month, I do my best!!!! Please wait! Toccata!!!🫶
@@kungfupepus1581 Would you know of anyone capturing a performance of this magnitude on video? Seems most world class pianists are still back in TV Times.
For intermediate pianists, I recommend 1. Learning one of his more intermediate pieces like un barque sur l’ocean so you get a feel for ravels style of composing. 2. play around with your own composition, practice balancing between hands at high speeds with a consistent 1,2,3,4 like this piece focuses on. lastly don’t be afraid to try it out and go for it, ravels music looks a lot scarier than it actually is, most of fits into hand well. I’d also suggest learning the piece “vagarshapat dance” by Arno babadjanian.
@@eduardordz4223 you’ll find that looks are relatively deceiving in the world of pianoforte. I used to fear ravel but the truth is most of his music is so well written it fits into hand very well, and a lot of it isn’t as troubling. In fact I find his slower pieces are more complex
Honestly I agree, I struggle much more with the awkward stretch and fingerings found in Valses Nobles et Sentimentales than I do with the shimmering arpeggios of Ondine.
@@randomchannel-px6hoSame at this point. Ondine was hell at the beginning but that’s because it was a gigantic leap in difficulty compared to what I played before, but now I’m more scared of the first valse. FFS I can barely reach those things or can’t at all, also the Rigaudon from Le Tombeau de Couperin.
This comment inspired me to learn une barque sur l'ocean, and while I may not have it perfect I am happy about it, as it's the hardest thing I played so far.
This is a nice edition bc it has the left hand play some of the notes that is actually written for the right hand. Especially starting at the 5th measure. This was probably one of the most difficult pieces I had learned in highschool.
@@alexandrakomninou5401 The metronome markings were part of the first edition published in Ravel's lifetime (1918), thus evidently proofread by the composer himself. I think those metronomes are Ravel's own. Surely, if he didn't approve of the markings he would have at least told Durand.
Really it's not too trying on the hands, your hands can be normal sized, you just need to maintain flexibility and fluidity. Unlike most toccatas this one has a strange fluid quality at some parts, most toccatas are not like this because its a test of touch, of speed. If you think 5-7 are hard wait till you get to the coda. I would try some of his other music before you attack something like this.
Yes, he wrote for his smallish hands, and it's obvious once you get over the fear of diving off the cliff he challenges you with. While doable, it requires relaxation in between. He knew the piano and the human hand quite well
@@Black-bm8wc Yeah I have lol. I've played Ondine. Not ready for scarbo any time soon but you'll be hard pressed to find a pianist who actually thinks that piece is harder than something like don juan or el contrabanista. I'm not saying it's easy, but liszt wrote more difficult music, especially his early works. Something like his paganini etude no 4 1838 version is unplayable at the listed tempo.
@@8beef4u then my apologizes, im quite far from that level ^^ from all the pianists i've personally known, scarbo was the piece that bring them really bad memories. i'd have to try myself to have an opinion, but i probably need 10 or 20 years more to be ready (at least...)
... and the drama-sarcastic minor sixth in the final flourish. My chills come at 3:09. There's something over the top about about the emphasis on the ninths and the contrast between that yell and the lower, more subdued parts of the melody sounds like someone alternating between just managing to hold back and letting it all out.
How’d it work out? I’d imagine even the arranging part would be rather difficult, considering that even Ravel himself declined to orchestrate this part precisely because of how intrinsically “pianistic” it is; I don’t envy anyone who has to try.
축하드립니다! 귀하께서는 제 1회 시비대학교 피아노 콩쿠르에서 우수한 성적(92.5)으로 2위에 입상하였기에 시상을 알립니다. Congratulations! You won first prize at the Sibi University Piano Concour (92.5)!so we announce your award.
I can play the friska of Hungarian rhapsody 2 with ease but for some strange reason I can’t get past a page on this one. Which is sad, I like this one more than Hungarian rhapsody
Funny you should ask. When I first worked on this piece, the opening bars gave me no trouble. Some years later, when I came back to it, I found that I could no longer play either of the chords in the RH in bars 5-8. Turned out I was developing a Dupuytren's contracture (a shrinking of the fingers & their extensions -- you can look it up) and now I can't play this piece, and also a lot of others. But it was those chords that were my early warning. -- But to answer your question, yes, lots of pianists can play those bars as written. Besides the big ending, the hardest part is in the middle with all the hands crossing. (Starting about 1:20, where it's marked pp.)
How large are your hands... I'm 25 and have faily large hands and still find measures 5-7 some of the most challenging I've come across. How do you play that with 12 year old hands....
While it wasn't written for 12 year old hands, you have a great point. The opening passages are really the worst (best?) challenge. They can be cheated on a little, but after that you're in clover
I am halfway through the piece and can confidently say that measures 5-8 are the hardest lol. Unless you have some big hands cos its very hard to voice for me.
His personal musical background was strongly informed by his mother's Spanish (often Basque) melodies. These were in turn fueled by the Moorish (Arabian) conquest of Spain. These Asian influences weren't lost on the young Ravel, nor were the mechanical sounds his father (an inventor) introduced him to
They do, but you have to play all of those repeated notes staccato otherwise it is impossible at 144 bpm. Edit: Just watched your video, very well played and excellent job on the coda! I quite like your interpretation; you've got good dynamic control and great dexterity. Good luck for you in the future.
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I've been learning piano for two months now. Can't wait to play this in 30 years!
It's taken me that long, and I dont regret a minute. I come back to it and gain something about the piece, but more importantly about myself, every time
23years to go!
If you practice 40 hours a day, you should be able to play this by now.
I’ve been playing for 8 (almost 9? I’ve lost count) Currently attempting it. And it’s a nightmare to practice, but it sounds so fun!! I wish you luck lol.
@@brysoncheng7574 It's pretty interesting how you've probably been playing for a similar amount of time as the original poster.
the greatest test of a piano's action
Nah, Gottschalk’s Tremolo
@@wilh3lmmusicgottschalk gran tarantelle😂😂😅
Absolutely first rate performance of this! He gets all the notes, he stays in tempo, he achieves all the expressive markings, and he totally sells the piece. What more could we ask? THANKS for posting!
2:56-3:06 is the reason I love this piece
exactly! I love it too.
One of Ravel’s best moments for me
Also 1:43 - 1:55
"I'm Collard my technique is awesome and music feels so easy to me that it sounds like I'm cheating but I'm just that awesome" - Collard if I was Collard
collard greens
Study its the question and respect
One cannot even begin to comprehend the difficulty of this piece until the attempt to play it themselves... I would venture to say that it’s even more difficult than Prokofiev’s toccata. Fantastic performance!
I'll definitely test that out. I played Prokofiev toccata like 6 years ago. I remember it being an arm/finger cramper even when the correct technique was applied. I'm interested in seeing if this is any worse or different. Either way these types of pieces are thrilling to play to say the least.
Its an absolute pain. I have to sqeeze my plushie cat every 5 minutes
Hahahahah😂
Yeah, some parts may sound easy but they are not, trust me
But i think its at the level of prokofievs
Collard is positively ferocious in the ending, which is definitely what this pieces requires in the ending (very true to Ravel), and which is why millions love it singularly as by far the best interpretation. He truly gets it on a number of levels. It will take 30 years to best him, if ever...
My favorite composer is Ravel. I love this work!
I have to take college entrance exams so I recently don't play the piano.
I'm looking forward to practicing this after I finish the exam🥰
To do it next month, I do my best!!!! Please wait! Toccata!!!🫶
3:14 why is this part so small, ugh it's so good
Sounds like Contra or something so good
Best version 😍😍
this sounds unbelieavably difficult, and the dynamics- wow.
Le parfait esprit de la toccata ! Merveilleuse interprétation !
One of my favourite interpretations of one of my favourite pieces by one of my favourite composers!
Even after several years of listening I still am dumbfounded by how this sounds so effortless and beautiful with such a fast tempo
The absolute best version so far
What a breathtaking piece
this is so genius! it gives me eargasms!
Magnifique version...
Parfaitement aboutie.
Une des meilleures si ce n'est la meilleure
This song is so metal.
это исполнение ЭТАЛОН!!! Что-то с чем-то, невероятное и фантастическое
I love the sound that Collard makes with the piano.
The best piano version I heard on RUclips, it’s technical and dramatic
I second that dude - thought it was a little fast when it started but the connection and clarity remained solid all the way through. Unbelievable!
Check out Philippe Bianconi's performance - he's the true master of Ravel.
@@neocleouscomposer Checked His recording out - legend of a guy!
cuz its played by collard i was prepared that it will be awesome tbh
@@kungfupepus1581 Would you know of anyone capturing a performance of this magnitude on video? Seems most world class pianists are still back in TV Times.
For intermediate pianists, I recommend 1. Learning one of his more intermediate pieces like un barque sur l’ocean so you get a feel for ravels style of composing. 2. play around with your own composition, practice balancing between hands at high speeds with a consistent 1,2,3,4 like this piece focuses on. lastly don’t be afraid to try it out and go for it, ravels music looks a lot scarier than it actually is, most of fits into hand well. I’d also suggest learning the piece “vagarshapat dance” by Arno babadjanian.
Why would barque sur l’ocean be intermediate? I haven’t tried it but it looks hellish!
@@eduardordz4223 you’ll find that looks are relatively deceiving in the world of pianoforte. I used to fear ravel but the truth is most of his music is so well written it fits into hand very well, and a lot of it isn’t as troubling. In fact I find his slower pieces are more complex
Honestly I agree, I struggle much more with the awkward stretch and fingerings found in Valses Nobles et Sentimentales than I do with the shimmering arpeggios of Ondine.
@@randomchannel-px6hoSame at this point. Ondine was hell at the beginning but that’s because it was a gigantic leap in difficulty compared to what I played before, but now I’m more scared of the first valse. FFS I can barely reach those things or can’t at all, also the Rigaudon from Le Tombeau de Couperin.
This comment inspired me to learn une barque sur l'ocean, and while I may not have it perfect I am happy about it, as it's the hardest thing I played so far.
This is a nice edition bc it has the left hand play some of the notes that is actually written for the right hand. Especially starting at the 5th measure. This was probably one of the most difficult pieces I had learned in highschool.
This piece is so f***ing difficult (I know, because I'm practicing this now) but he makes it *sound* easy!
I physically can't play the coda any faster than 100 lol
+ItsmeJamesAJ I dont think anybody can play at 144 as required tho
it's LRSM standard
This tempo marking wasn't appointed by Ravel though, but by later editors. Most pianists perform it around 126 and it sounds just fine. :)
@@alexandrakomninou5401 The metronome markings were part of the first edition published in Ravel's lifetime (1918), thus evidently proofread by the composer himself. I think those metronomes are Ravel's own. Surely, if he didn't approve of the markings he would have at least told Durand.
Magnifique
That's fantastic!!!
Beau travail. Artiste aussi
I just started learning this last week!! Can't wait till it's done!
As with any great collision of player and instrument, trust me, you'll never be "done". Enjoy the journey
is so hard and is a nice piece , ravel is magic
Extraordinaire ! Inoubliable ! Merci.
Really it's not too trying on the hands, your hands can be normal sized, you just need to maintain flexibility and fluidity. Unlike most toccatas this one has a strange fluid quality at some parts, most toccatas are not like this because its a test of touch, of speed. If you think 5-7 are hard wait till you get to the coda. I would try some of his other music before you attack something like this.
Yes, he wrote for his smallish hands, and it's obvious once you get over the fear of diving off the cliff he challenges you with. While doable, it requires relaxation in between. He knew the piano and the human hand quite well
I don't know why but this piece has a very exciting "aeronautical" feel to me
True. xD
Liszt: I made the hardest piano pieces
Ravel: Hold my beer
Liszt again after hearing this: I still wrote much more difficult music lol
@@8beef4u you've never seen gaspard de la nuit it seems...
@@Black-bm8wc Yeah I have lol. I've played Ondine. Not ready for scarbo any time soon but you'll be hard pressed to find a pianist who actually thinks that piece is harder than something like don juan or el contrabanista. I'm not saying it's easy, but liszt wrote more difficult music, especially his early works. Something like his paganini etude no 4 1838 version is unplayable at the listed tempo.
@@8beef4u then my apologizes, im quite far from that level ^^ from all the pianists i've personally known, scarbo was the piece that bring them really bad memories. i'd have to try myself to have an opinion, but i probably need 10 or 20 years more to be ready (at least...)
@@8beef4u I've seen Scarbo cited for its difficulty countless times.
I'm pretty sure this is the version that was used in the acadec listening guide this year
what is it about 3:20 - 3:24 that gives me chills?
What do you mean "chills" ?
facepalm is chills? are I American? Americans don't say chills.
+Sean O'Neill Did you mean 3:07 or maybe 0:00?
same here. But what really gets to me is the final return to E major. Those bass octaves
... and the drama-sarcastic minor sixth in the final flourish. My chills come at 3:09. There's something over the top about about the emphasis on the ninths and the contrast between that yell and the lower, more subdued parts of the melody sounds like someone alternating between just managing to hold back and letting it all out.
tout est parfait
I shall be able to play this..... In 1 million years time
1 killion years for me
It's like an elude. Use it as an oar for your boat
Thanks for posting !
amazing!
intro is crazy 🇰🇷🇰🇷🇰🇷
Even as a listener it demands a lot. Treasure for not so many people I guess
im transcibing this for a flute choir right now and it looks awesome but its going to be 400% impossible to play
How’d it work out? I’d imagine even the arranging part would be rather difficult, considering that even Ravel himself declined to orchestrate this part precisely because of how intrinsically “pianistic” it is; I don’t envy anyone who has to try.
This puts everyone else to shame. I have been playing this for a whole year and I recently stuffed it up at a festival
축하드립니다! 귀하께서는 제 1회 시비대학교 피아노 콩쿠르에서 우수한 성적(92.5)으로 2위에 입상하였기에 시상을 알립니다.
Congratulations! You won first prize at the Sibi University Piano Concour (92.5)!so we announce your award.
I don't found the Sheets in PDF only I get this sheet music using screen shots using this video Hahahaha. I want play this soon ^_^
imslp?
Take your time. Technique, relaxation, expression.
haha, I did that for a song once too. But the sheet music is online, like it says below its in imslp
I can play the friska of Hungarian rhapsody 2 with ease but for some strange reason I can’t get past a page on this one. Which is sad, I like this one more than Hungarian rhapsody
This piece is so so difficult.
took me two weeks for the first 5 bars T^T totally worth it XD !!!
I love
The eighth bar, the right hand - is there actually a pianist who plays all the notes as written?
Funny you should ask. When I first worked on this piece, the opening bars gave me no trouble. Some years later, when I came back to it, I found that I could no longer play either of the chords in the RH in bars 5-8. Turned out I was developing a Dupuytren's contracture (a shrinking of the fingers & their extensions -- you can look it up) and now I can't play this piece, and also a lot of others. But it was those chords that were my early warning. -- But to answer your question, yes, lots of pianists can play those bars as written. Besides the big ending, the hardest part is in the middle with all the hands crossing. (Starting about 1:20, where it's marked pp.)
友達が、これ弾いていた。最初は興味なかったけど、今は、大好き。 自分で弾いてみたいけど無理〜！
it took me 1 day to learn up to 0:22. im going to learn the whole thing.
i have his recording on my iphone.
How large are your hands... I'm 25 and have faily large hands and still find measures 5-7 some of the most challenging I've come across. How do you play that with 12 year old hands....
While it wasn't written for 12 year old hands, you have a great point. The opening passages are really the worst (best?) challenge. They can be cheated on a little, but after that you're in clover
I’m 15 years old and I can play this pretty clearly without having big hands; all you really need is flexibility and quick movement
Is this harder than Scarbo?
Álex the Benighted Overall, no. It is an exceptionally difficult piece that tests not only your endurance and speed but also your musicality.
@@TomCL-vb6xc Cool.
ondine is harder
This is music
楽譜は読めても弾けるかー！（笑）
改めてラヴェル凄いね！
3:08
Never heard one that's actually 144 lol crazy
My piano can handle 144 but my level keeps me around 130
i know that feel, bro.
なんでこのテンポで弾けるの～((+_+))・・・
Much more harder than Liszt's. It required you to do it in ppp
What is ppp
Liszt Toccata is hardly even difficult, the Ravel is harder than the Prokofiev, and the Schumann is the hardest Toccata of all.
@@calebhu6383 wait, the Ravel is harder than Prokofiev?
@@scriabinismydog2439 Imo yes, they are pretty similar in difficulty though
@@calebhu6383 oh ok, thanks
*Wowwwww*
I am halfway through the piece and can confidently say that measures 5-8 are the hardest lol. Unless you have some big hands cos its very hard to voice for me.
2:10 3:08
38 frustrated pianist dislike this
academic decathlon anyone?
Yep, scrimmage is just in 13 days over here in CA.
@@jackofblades2006 I am in CA, I thought they moved it to 20 days?
@@enochzhang5320 I guess it depends on county
Yeah, I'm listening to all the songs again because I have my scrimmage tomorrow
Enoch Zhang did you guys go to regional competition saturday?
What is that slur😲😲😲1:46
This video is public again!
경희대 곡 보고 온사람🙌
저용 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
저요ㅋㅋㅋ
중국음악같음요
@@보니-t7u ㄹㅇㅋㅋ
님덜 이거 연주시간 미공개로 나와있던데 1차 실기곡 두개 다 끝까지 준비해야해요??
Sounds very Asian inspired
Luke Tuke pentatonics
Wouldn't be surprised. A lot of Ravel's pieces are based of the pentatonic scale which is always dubbed as the oriental scale.
His personal musical background was strongly informed by his mother's Spanish (often Basque) melodies. These were in turn fueled by the Moorish (Arabian) conquest of Spain. These Asian influences weren't lost on the young Ravel, nor were the mechanical sounds his father (an inventor) introduced him to
라벨 ........넘 어려워ㅠㅠㅜ
HOW!?
Everyday grand pianos don't even have actions that fast (I know from experience. I uploaded same music.) Think about that for a second.
They do, but you have to play all of those repeated notes staccato otherwise it is impossible at 144 bpm.
Edit:
Just watched your video, very well played and excellent job on the coda! I quite like your interpretation; you've got good dynamic control and great dexterity. Good luck for you in the future.
되게 청아하네
미쳤다...
Chinese interpertation in western classical music? Challenge accepted.
its not necessarily chinese, isn't it?
Yes is unnecessarily but it does sounds Chinese bro
i think ... this is superman ,,, is impossible to play it... i don't know maybe i'm dreaming... i don't think this is real :)))
개쩐다
경희대 입시 준비하시는분~?ㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Geez, that's music.
Get outta here pop and rap crap...
Too fast for a flaneur to breathe. Don´t dive through ancient Paris with a musclecar!
3:30